T-I-G LXVII: The Rangers of the North - The Fell Winter

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hmm hmm, personally I am also leaning forwards to the thought that Brinn was killed just because of a no-trace kill. I would have assumed so, because basically almost any other person (basically out of those who were participating more than Brinn) who would have been killed would have left some more significant traces in some way.

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Also, once again, I call for a vote of no confidence in Nienna. Again, it's better to not allow anyone to have the full power of a captain. Even if you think they're innocent, the only way to know for sure is if you're a wolf. So without a known innocent to fill the position, we need to keep rotating for the safety of the village. It's too great a risk.

Well, since in this game, there is no way to have a known innocent, then it basically means just rotating the people. You could have just as well skipped the sentence.

Anyway, myself, personally, don't worry about keeping Nienna in position, if people are fine with it. Of course I would urge her to be careful with the power of cancelling lynch, but otherwise, I trust her.

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

I don't care to be captain. I only want the captain to change everyday.

Which basically means that you want to be captain, mind you. Or, "mind you" - surely I do not have to remind you of that, you must be aware of it. You are the third person, and have been so since Day 1, apart from me and Nienna now (and okay, Rune on the first Day), who seems to have good enough support to become a Captain. So in other words, by insisting on switching the Captains, you also ask for becoming a Captain - indirectly. I think something like that happened already on Day 1:

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Oh, it occurs to me to answer my own question: I have no logistical issue with being captain. I make no promises on being a good one. Or socially adept one.

I would not be mentioning it if it was not something that I have spotted as a pattern in your behavior all the time since Day 1. The way of speaking without saying some things openly, but saying them in the way that they are still said and can be interpretated and get stuck in the reader's head without actually being totally open in the first place. Especially knowing that you are a clever player and after you said yourself that you are mastering rhetorics. That is: you asked in your first post if people have problems with being a Captain, you said nothing yourself, and then several posts later - the thing I quoted just above - you said "Oh, and by the way, I almost forgot, oh surely I could answer my own question when we are already at it, right? Well I don't really want to be a captain, but I can be one, hint hint nudge nudge?" By adding "oh, it occurs to me..." and the fact that you said it only after some time, you made it sound more careless, more "by-the-way", which means: making yourself seem "no, I don't strive for power, I almost forgot that I could be a Captain myself" while at the same time basically asking for it.

It would be a similar issue with the words "I don't care to be captain. I only want the captain to change everyday." Which is at the same time saying "oh no, I don't strive for power" and saying "vote me", for reasons I explained above when quoting that one. It's a pattern with you, all the time, that there is a difference between saying something and what it actually can mean, or what message it conveys.

I have been noticing that from the first Day, and you are basically doing it all the time, also in other cases. Last of all is the thing you just repeated now, again, and which you already said on first Day.

ToDay it was:

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

I rarely get killed by wolves. The reason being is that around Day 3 everyone decides I've been alive too long and need to be killed.

And on Day 1:

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Also, don't make a night guard, people. I'm too easy to lynch for the wolves to waste a kill on me. Put in someone who's trailless, like Brinn or Kath. Boro doesn't look likely to die either. If he's innocent, then he looks too suspicious to kill. Think about it.

And toDay again. ToDay you are saying it plainly, on Day 1 you said it more subtly. It was more like "I am speaking about NG I am speaking about NG I am speaking about NG" but the second message which is incorporated in there is "I'm too easy to lynch for the wolves to waste a kill on me". Something you are saying already on Day 1, to prepare an explanation waaay beforehand, of why you have not been killed yet?

So in other words, yes, I suspect you, Roa. It is funny that you speak about Day 3, "around Day 3 everyone decides I've been alive too long" - well, "funny" - I must say it's slightly unnerving to me too, but it is time for me to bring it forth. I did not want to state any suspicion about you earlier in case you might be innocent and the Wolves would attempt just what you said. Of course, if you are innocent, I could see the Wolves trying to frame you. But I have never had any stronger suspect than you during the two last Days, and you are also one reason - which I didn't mention yesterDay just for the reason I just mentioned (i.e. that I did not want to help the Wolves to have the reason to frame you in case you were innocent) - why I suspected Lommy. Her kind of "follower"-ish attitude to you, the way she voted for you, was one reason for my suspicion of her.

And speaking of Brinn... that also strenghtened my suspicion of you. One more thing is the way you speak of NGs, where you actively take part in selecting them. If you are a Wolf, you would, of course, know that if somebody's selected, you cannot kill him, but then, there are probably still enough people to choose from, and especially with kills like Brinn, it's not a problem.

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Brinn was probably killed for the same reason that any quiet person is killed (which is why I voted her as NG on Day 1). A quiet person leaves no trail.

Again this sort of subtle "I voted her as NG on Day 1 and now she is dead, see? I was right on Day 1, eventually, she was killed". Of course that doesn't mean that you were all the time after Brinn, but mentioning this now is basically just confirming that you have nothing to do with her kill, as you protected her on the former Night. A really side-thing, probably even from your perspective, but if it's there, fine with you so you mention it.

Well. I think that would do for now. Speaking of others... I am becoming slightly uneasy with Fea, too. I am unsure about Loslote, some ways of how she speaks seem very genuine, sometimes her lists seem as if they were just randomly made by a Wolf who does not particularly know how to speak of people as he won't know whom to keep on good side and whom on bad side (her first list toDay looks like that, on the other hand her second more elaborate list looks more genuine). But I do not hold her as suspect now. I am still worried about Lommy.

I still trust Nerwen, Nienna... well, how was sally, Nienna? Anything to add to your Nightly campfire discussion?