Tol-in-Gaurhoth LXVIII: A Full Moon Over Innsmouth - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Pitchwife · 10-14-2009, 08:55 AM

Time to get serious.

++SpM
While his is not the only poorly reasoned vote up to now, I'd surely expect better from him if he was innocent. Even the case he made against me was better than the one he based his vote on.

Roa_Aoife · 10-14-2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Time to get serious.

++SpM
While his is not the only poorly reasoned vote up to now, I'd surely expect better from him if he was innocent. Even the case he made against me was better than the one he based his vote on.

Not that I disagree with the suspicion (obviously) but that looks a bit bandwagony.

Inziladun · 10-14-2009, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Not that I disagree with the suspicion (obviously) but that looks a bit bandwagony.

Yes, it does.

Brinniel · 10-14-2009, 09:19 AM

While Nienna may have overreacted to a newbie's vote, I don't think it necessarily merits wolfish behaviour. It sometimes can be frustrating to be voted for bad reasoning, even if it is by a newbie.

As for wilwa's vote, I am a bit wary of anyone who is still eager to lynch Hakon so early in the game. While of course it is possible he's actually a wolf, too often he's been lynched early for his odd behaviour and turned out innocent. Surely those who've played with him have learned our lesson not to be so quick to vote him just for his weird behaviour. Hakon has poor reasoning for his vote and suspicions, but nothing he's said so far seems out-of-character to me.

As for those two non-reasoned votes I spoke of earlier, I won't vote Cray since he's new, but I've seen some good points about Loslote who seems to be contributing without saying much and will be watching her more closely.

Brinniel · 10-14-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitchwife

I know for a fact The Saucepan Man is a wolf.
How? Well, guess!
I'm the Dreamer.

Okay, I believe you since I see absolutely no reason a baddie would false reveal at this point, but I still think it is rather premature to be revealing even if you have caught a wolf. For one thing, seers have been known to catch two wolves in the past, but revealing now severely limits that opportunity. Though I'm glad at least you waited until the end of the Day so that we'll still have plenty of posts to analyse toMorrow from before we knew Spm's role (and thus be more likely to find connections).

++Spm

Am I allowed to say I'm a bit sad to see him go so early, even if he is a wolf? I was just so excited to see him playing again for the first time in a long time. Oh well.

Pitchwife · 10-14-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Not that I disagree with the suspicion (obviously) but that looks a bit bandwagony.

You think I don't know that? I would have preferred to handle this more subtly, if I could, but just so we don't mess up:
I know for a fact The Saucepan Man is a wolf.
How? Well, guess!
I'm the Dreamer.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 10-14-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitchwife

You think I don't know that? I would have preferred to handle this more subtly, if I could, but just so we don't mess up:
I know for a fact The Saucepan Man is a wolf.
How? Well, guess!
I'm the Dreamer.

What the

Okay, well. That's a very... interesting turn of events. Okay, well. I guess there is no way why you would lie to us at this stage. Eurgh. Brilliant. That means... that means, let's lynch SpM? *sigh* (Lommy is going to be happy, she said she pitied the fact that she won't play with SpM... now if he dies, that's perhaps less of a loss...)

Legate of Amon Lanc · 10-14-2009, 09:13 AM

And by the way, just before this happened, I was about to post the voting count. Just for record (when I have already done it):

Morsul --> Nienna
Hakon --> Inzil
Loslote --> Pitchwife
Crayon --> Inzil(2)
wilwa --> Hakon
SpM --> Loslote
Nienna --> Pitchwife (2)
Noggoth --> Nienna (2)
Kitanna --> Wilwa
Roa --> SpM
Pitchwife --> SpM (2)

Left to vote: Inzil, Nerwen, Legate, Little Green, Lari, Brinn.

By the way, I was about to vote for wilwa, and I almost posted it. But this slightly changes the situation. I would just like to see other people's comments on Pitch's revelation and then vote.

EDIT: x-ed with several. Ah yea, somebody had the same idea.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 10-14-2009, 09:15 AM

Okay, whatever.

++SpM

I don't think there is anything to wonder about, it would really make no sense to make a claim here if it was untrue... and also it's logical that Pw would dream of SpM, as he's this legendary 'Downer who hasn't played for ages...

Lariren Shadow · 10-14-2009, 09:20 AM

I'm...slightly weary of Pitch's reveal. While he probably was in fear of getting lynched if we still had the tie between the two votes Inzil would be gone. It just doesn't feel that right to me.

Blah, I'm up early and hungry.

Considering I was thinking of voting SPM toDay anyway I might. But I was also thinking of voting Hakon.

Nerwen · 10-14-2009, 09:17 AM

Well, then, it's now easy–

++The Saucepan Man.

EDIT:X'd with Legate and Inziladun.

Inziladun · 10-14-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitchwife

You think I don't know that? I would have preferred to handle this more subtly, if I could, but just so we don't mess up:
I know for a fact The Saucepan Man is a wolf.
How? Well, guess!
I'm the Dreamer.

You are? If so, I think your revealment was a bit premature.

Pitchwife · 10-14-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

You are? If so, I think your revealment was a bit premature.

Don't think the thought hasn't crossed my mind - but with a four-way tie between myself, two unknowns and a known wolf, what would you have done? If I have counted correctly, 11 out of 17 villagers have voted, and odds are some of the remaining at least may miss the DL. After the recent history of unlucky Day Ones, we can't afford to let this chance pass.

(Side-note to McCaber: Now I know how you felt back in Mnemo's game...)

Lariren Shadow · 10-14-2009, 09:11 AM

Awake and commenting.

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Somehow the way how Lari makes her comment on wilwa strikes me: It may be that she just wished to express herself differently (there are many of whom she says only "seems innocent" or "pretty innocent looking" etc.). But of wilwa she says that we should keep her around with actual backing / arguments for why she thinks so. And I think there had been some suspicions raised on wilwa, so that would fit "nicely"

...

I really only meant to change up what I was saying. I did my list from the bottom up, got tired of saying "seems innocent" and decided to go with a different spin. Although the fact that you're jumping on it makes me alarm bells ring.

To add to the Nienna reaction: I didn't see anything more than her trying to point out rules to a newbie. She might have also been slightly annoyed because she can get lynched Day 1 and doesn't like it.

I'm still trying to figure out who to vote for. But in the mean time I did a vote count:
Morsul --> Nienna
Hakon --> Inzil
Loslote --> Pitch
Crayon --> Inzil(2)
Wilwa --> Hakon
SPM --> Loslote
Nienna --> Pitch(2)
Nog --> Nienna(2)
Kitanna --> Wilwa
Roa --> SPM
Pitch --> SPM (2)

In order of getting the most votes: Inzil, Pitch, Nienna, and SPM with 2. Hakon, Loslote, and Wilwa 1.

Inziladun · 10-14-2009, 09:12 AM

All right, fine.

++ SPM

If this turns out to be a bust, we'll have an obvious target toMorrow.

10-14-2009, 08:55 AM	#1
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Time to get serious. ++SpM While his is not the only poorly reasoned vote up to now, I'd surely expect better from him if he was innocent. Even the case he made against me was better than the one he based his vote on. __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

10-14-2009, 09:19 AM	#4
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	While Nienna may have overreacted to a newbie's vote, I don't think it necessarily merits wolfish behaviour. It sometimes can be frustrating to be voted for bad reasoning, even if it is by a newbie. As for wilwa's vote, I am a bit wary of anyone who is still eager to lynch Hakon so early in the game. While of course it is possible he's actually a wolf, too often he's been lynched early for his odd behaviour and turned out innocent. Surely those who've played with him have learned our lesson not to be so quick to vote him just for his weird behaviour. Hakon has poor reasoning for his vote and suspicions, but nothing he's said so far seems out-of-character to me. As for those two non-reasoned votes I spoke of earlier, I won't vote Cray since he's new, but I've seen some good points about Loslote who seems to be contributing without saying much and will be watching her more closely. __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

10-14-2009, 09:13 AM	#8
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	And by the way, just before this happened, I was about to post the voting count. Just for record (when I have already done it): Morsul --> Nienna Hakon --> Inzil Loslote --> Pitchwife Crayon --> Inzil(2) wilwa --> Hakon SpM --> Loslote Nienna --> Pitchwife (2) Noggoth --> Nienna (2) Kitanna --> Wilwa Roa --> SpM Pitchwife --> SpM (2) Left to vote: Inzil, Nerwen, Legate, Little Green, Lari, Brinn. By the way, I was about to vote for wilwa, and I almost posted it. But this slightly changes the situation. I would just like to see other people's comments on Pitch's revelation and then vote. EDIT: x-ed with several. Ah yea, somebody had the same idea. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

10-14-2009, 09:15 AM	#9
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Okay, whatever. ++SpM I don't think there is anything to wonder about, it would really make no sense to make a claim here if it was untrue... and also it's logical that Pw would dream of SpM, as he's this legendary 'Downer who hasn't played for ages... __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

10-14-2009, 09:20 AM	#10
Lariren Shadow Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Where the day meets the night Posts: 607	I'm...slightly weary of Pitch's reveal. While he probably was in fear of getting lynched if we still had the tie between the two votes Inzil would be gone. It just doesn't feel that right to me. Blah, I'm up early and hungry. Considering I was thinking of voting SPM toDay anyway I might. But I was also thinking of voting Hakon. __________________ Choose treachery, its more fun!

10-14-2009, 09:17 AM	#11
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Well, then, it's now easy– ++The Saucepan Man. EDIT:X'd with Legate and Inziladun. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

10-14-2009, 09:12 AM	#15
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	All right, fine. ++ SPM If this turns out to be a bust, we'll have an obvious target toMorrow. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.