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10-19-2009, 02:08 PM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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I'm horribly busy today with work and school today.
So are we going to assume the wolves went after the Seer? Why? The wolves could have gone after anyone and considering they didn't try to kill Pitch before it could be entirely possible that they went for someone else. Legate, what else do you suspect me for? I see for my comment on Day 1 about SPM, other things that you don't even cite, and my vote for Hakon who I've suspected since Day 1 and have stated reasons for suspecting? I honestly don't believe he's the Ranger at all, and considering his post toDay I don't like it that much more either. It's easy for a WolfRanger to explain away a missed kill by claiming to have been protecting the Seer. Anyway, I'm going back to reading a defense of poetry now. Edit: Oh, x-posted with Pitch and Nog.
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10-19-2009, 02:25 PM
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Hakon, if you truly pulled off such a complicated bluff, it's very much appreciated.
The only problem with what you say is that usually, the ranger cannot protect xerself. I just checked the Admin Thread, however, and found that McCaber's description of the roles doesn't explicitly exclude that possibility. Maybe some Mod clarification would be in order here - otherwise, you may just be desperately trying to talk yourself out of the hangman's noose, for all I can tell. So: McCaber, can the Priest protect xerself?
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10-19-2009, 02:29 PM
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*****taps fingers impatiently*****
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10-19-2009, 02:34 PM
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10-19-2009, 02:37 PM
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10-19-2009, 02:40 PM
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Okay, that sounded... interesting, for certain. Coffee, anyone? I will really try to go through Nerwen's posts before more happens around here. EDIT:x-ed
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10-19-2009, 10:28 PM
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(Sorry I was late. The stars weren't quite right yet. And Lottie's narration is almost done, I promise.)
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10-19-2009, 02:31 PM
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10-19-2009, 02:39 PM
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10-19-2009, 02:43 PM
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I totally missed her vote on second Day, then! When was it? Okay, I am going to check that, because I am apparently also more blind than Azathoth...
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10-19-2009, 02:45 PM
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10-19-2009, 02:45 PM
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Flame of the Ainulindalë
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Loslote got lynched by four votes.
Hakon -> wilwa Loslote -> Brinn Crayon -> Inzil wilwa -> Brinn 2 Roa -> Nerwen Lari -> Hakon Inzil -> Lottie Pitch -> Lottie Brinn -> Lottie Legate -> Lari Nogrod -> Lottie 4 Nerwen -> Lari 2 (the last three votes were more or less claimed crossposts...) Of Lottie-lynchers only Inzil and Brinn are unknowns. First thing: two of the Lottie-voters were innocent, it is possible a third - or a fourth one - was innocent as well. Because of the... Second thing: As it is highly probable that either Hakon or Wilwa is a wolf, then looking at the last votes there was no difference in the outcome, whether Lottie or Lari got killed (as Lari was not herself involved in the last voyes). So a wolf among those last voters had no special agenda as to whom to vote as it could not have been a case of protecting a mate. From that follows, that the wolf's decision must have been based on other reasons than who gets lynched ie. how would that vote make her/him look. Which brings us to the... Third thing: The chance of getting Lari lynched at the last minute was a small one indeed - so a safe place for a last minute-voter wolf? But we must also remember a... Fourth thing: As voting Lottie doesn't prove one a wolf it doesn't prove one innocent either. Inzil might have made a fairly safe vote starting the whole thing after lots of people had suspected her. If Brinn is a wolf she must praise Lottie for giving her such an understandable reason to vote her... And let's not forget either that... Fifth thing: Lari voted for Hakon which was both counter-productive and odd. Would a wolf do that? And Roa went basically on a crusade against Nerwen downplaying anything she had to say for her defence. Would she be that assertive as a wolf... no doubt about that. Would she be that assertive as an ordo... no doubt about that either...  So I ended up in a stalemate.  Let me chew these for a moment... EDIT: X'd with a lot... great, people around!
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10-19-2009, 03:14 PM
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Just coming on real quick while at work, I'll go into more detail about this later on tonight when I get home, I don't have much time right now. Just wanted to do this before people started to vote...
Please don't lynch Hakon!! He really is the Ranger! I would have kept this going longer, to see how much longer we could fool the wolves to keep Pitch alive, but I don't want to risk you guys lynching Hakon and there's no way they'd have kept Pitch alive past today anyway since he was protected last night. Now I now Wolf is the first thing to pop into your heads, but I swear I'm not. I started to freak out when two of our gifteds came out and really didn't want to lose the Seer again so soon (since it's happened so much recently), so I decided to pretend to be the Ranger in order to keep the Seer around longer (and it worked, since he's still here). I got the idea from the last game I played when Mnemo and I wanted the Seer to reveal so that the village and Ranger could take turns protecting him. I know it was crazy, and you'll all suspect me now, but hey, it worked. We've gotten 2 more dreams then we may have had if I hadn't of done this. Sorry to do this and run, but I really don't have any more time. I may be able to hop on again quickly on my next break, but if not it won't be for another 5 hours before I come back on. Will be here for the last 3ish hours before DL though.
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10-19-2009, 03:18 PM
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Pitch, any insight on this?
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10-19-2009, 03:22 PM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Wilwa could be lying. I mean if you did all lynch me then she is revealed as the wolf if she had not made that post. She knows I cannot protect Pitchwife tonight since I already revealed my plan and the wolves know I protected Pitchwife last night.
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10-19-2009, 03:27 PM
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I don't get you Hakon... If wilwa says you're the real ranger why would we lynch you?  It doesn't mean wilwa wouldn't be lying just to save her neck... but that wouldn't be your downfall anyway. Or is there something else we should know about... well, like of everything?
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10-19-2009, 03:29 PM
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10-19-2009, 03:31 PM
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EDIT: x-ed again, okay, now I think I could (maybe, hopefully) understand it.
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10-19-2009, 03:22 PM
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Okay, now, let me think about it. I need to think about it. Really need to think about it.
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10-19-2009, 03:20 PM
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Flame of the Ainulindalë
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Huh!
  Well, well, well... Interesting is quite a lame word here. Now we need you Pitchie! Especially with your hinting of what you said about you wishing to wait for the rangers to come forwards... If you confirm what wilwa says we have two possibilities: either it's wilwa's last defence as she realised by your hint that you have checked one of them - and she goes with the only hope she has which is that you have checked Hakon. Or then she speaks the truth... meaning we have two unknown wolves around still... Why does it have to be past midnight here (RL)? 
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10-19-2009, 03:23 PM
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Flame of the Ainulindalë
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I'm getting a bad feeling there are some general tricksiness in this game... with Mr. Lovecraft involved that would not be an unheard of idea.
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10-19-2009, 03:27 PM
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EDIT: keeping x-ing...
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Then we have to start finding new ways to solve this. But before that we should stick to do our best with what we have in a sane-scenario...
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This game is getting crazier and crazier...
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X'd since Nogrod at #440.
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Flame of the Ainulindalë
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I think I saw your point Hakon...
Language barrier... ot different ways of conceptualising things... whatever.
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Initial thoughts: we could go through wilwa's posts to see if she said somewhere something that would prove otherwise (like suspecting Hakon in a way she would not have done if she were just posing to the WWs or something). I wouldn't put it past the WWs to make a "back-up plan" like that, or maybe wilwa making it up in place, although to be honest, if it is so, I am surprised, as I did not expect it this far... my view on the WWs was this far that they are rather less... hmm... constructive, or how to say it.
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10-19-2009, 03:44 PM
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Sorry, I can't shed any light on the ranger question. As we all assumed one of them was a wolf, I just decided to let them stew a little and see if one of them would give xerself away. I certainly didn't expect this result.
As a matter of fact, I did dream a wolf last Night - but it's neither of them. What wilwa says sounds in a way too crazy to be made up. But if she's telling the truth, that means we have one wolf left out there in the dark, and I think it might be a good idea to give the two of them a little more rope to hang themselves, not knowing which one is going to be exposed. What do you say?
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EDIT- Ah. Never mind. I missed your reference to the 'two' of them
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We can think more later. If there is the other Wolf, I see it can be clever to keep your dreamwolf around for a while yet to see people's reactions. On the other hand, we probably are not going to collect much as the WWs will become initially careful (from this point when you said it on, probably, actually). So we can as well lynch the one. You should certainly give us the name... well, or you could try to pull it off by letting us choose a person for lynch toDay by our best conscience, and tell your Wolf's name to us only just before the DL, but there's the point that some mistakingly reasoning innocents might get caught in the trap and get suspected then. Especially as the WWs will know... but then, they could be caught based on "too coldblooded reasoning"... but then again... well, whatever. Quote:
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Just don't leave your revelation too late so no confusions of possible last minute frenzies get us... So a wolf in a bag toDay! Great! Off to bed with a lighter heart (it's coming 1.00AM here and waking-up call is at 6.30AM)...
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x-ed w/ wilwa. Gosh!
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