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Nienna · 10-26-2009, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

I may be misunderstanding this, but doesn't this mean that circumstances can arise which can give the village a significant advantage?

Mira can correct me if I'm wrong but I believe we talked about this and they are allowed to protect someone for two nights in a row but no more than that. I also think that after the village is only down to one kill a night then the Ranger can no longer protect a person more than once.

Does that sound more a little more even?

McCaber · 10-26-2009, 03:18 PM

A Poe theme, eh? I'm in.

Roa_Aoife · 10-27-2009, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Nienna

Mira can correct me if I'm wrong but I believe we talked about this and they are allowed to protect someone for two nights in a row but no more than that. I also think that after the village is only down to one kill a night then the Ranger can no longer protect a person more than once.

Does that sound more a little more even?

I think SPM is referring to the event of a revealed seer. The ranger being able to protect a revealed seer two Nights in a row is rather unfair to the wolves, and potentially devastating for them, as last game demonstrated.

Also, the lovers- are they the lovers I've seen before, where one is a wolf and one is an innocent? Are they both innocents? Or is it completely random how they will be set (after all the roles are decided, the lovers are picked at random, allowing for any combination.) It also seems unclear- does the one lover die after the other is killed? Or do they just get their revenge killing?

Nienna · 10-27-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

I think SPM is referring to the event of a revealed seer. The ranger being able to protect a revealed seer two Nights in a row is rather unfair to the wolves, and potentially devastating for them, as last game demonstrated.

Also, the lovers- are they the lovers I've seen before, where one is a wolf and one is an innocent? Are they both innocents? Or is it completely random how they will be set (after all the roles are decided, the lovers are picked at random, allowing for any combination.) It also seems unclear- does the one lover die after the other is killed? Or do they just get their revenge killing?

I believe we decided that the ranger would only be able to protect from one killing so if the seer revealed the ranger would protect xem but then if both the bear and the wolves attacked the ranger would only be able to stop one attack and the seer would die. The ranger is allowed to protect twice in a row but no more than that. After the kills went down to one then the ranger wouldn't be able to protect someone more than once in a row.

However, if the consensus is that this is unfair then I'm sure Mira will change it.

I believe the lovers are neither innocent, nor bad. They want to win and they don't care how it happens.

Does that help?

Roa_Aoife · 10-27-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nienna

I believe the lovers are neither innocent, nor bad. They want to win and they don't care how it happens.

Does that mean they don't count as innocents in the tally of innocents vs wolves?

Nienna · 10-27-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Does that mean they don't count as innocents in the tally of innocents vs wolves?

Umm... good question. *shall wait for Mira*

satansaloser2005 · 10-27-2009, 12:20 PM

I've always seen them counted as innocents, but I could be wrong.

Boromir88 · 10-27-2009, 12:35 PM

Yes, I've only recalled them counted in the innocent tally, just innocents who will first do what is best for themselves, not necessarily everyone else. Like the Cobbler, who is typically counted as an innocent, but works for the wolves.

Mirandir · 10-27-2009, 10:43 PM

Mkay I'm here, I'm here! Let's see if I can clear some things up.

Nienna is indeed correct about the ranger shenanigans. Can protect twice in a row, when it's down to one kill a night can't do that any more.

Lovers count as innocents in the tally, but then again so does the cobbler, so do with that information what you will. In some games the remaining Lover dies after getting their revenge kill, but we decided to let them keep playing for kicks.

Nienna will now review this post and tell me if I've left anything out.

Nienna · 10-27-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mirandir

Nienna will now review this post and tell me if I've left anything out.

Looks good!

Mirandir · 10-27-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nienna

Looks good!

Whoooo!

Kath · 10-28-2009, 02:38 AM

Hey thanks for the invite but I don't think I'm going to be able to play. Uni life is a bit overly busy at the moment! I'd say I'd play but just be quieter but ... well, that would be difficult!

Lariren Shadow · 10-29-2009, 02:11 AM

So for reference I'm good with the deadline.

wilwarin538 · 10-30-2009, 06:36 AM

So when are we starting???

10-26-2009, 03:18 PM	#2
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10-27-2009, 12:20 PM	#7
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10-27-2009, 12:35 PM	#8
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Yes, I've only recalled them counted in the innocent tally, just innocents who will first do what is best for themselves, not necessarily everyone else. Like the Cobbler, who is typically counted as an innocent, but works for the wolves. __________________ Fenris Penguin

10-27-2009, 10:43 PM	#9
Mirandir Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: CT/NY Posts: 681	Mkay I'm here, I'm here! Let's see if I can clear some things up. Nienna is indeed correct about the ranger shenanigans. Can protect twice in a row, when it's down to one kill a night can't do that any more. Lovers count as innocents in the tally, but then again so does the cobbler, so do with that information what you will. In some games the remaining Lover dies after getting their revenge kill, but we decided to let them keep playing for kicks. Nienna will now review this post and tell me if I've left anything out. __________________ Rise and rise again until lambs become lions.

10-28-2009, 02:38 AM	#12
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Hey thanks for the invite but I don't think I'm going to be able to play. Uni life is a bit overly busy at the moment! I'd say I'd play but just be quieter but ... well, that would be difficult! __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

10-29-2009, 02:11 AM	#13
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10-30-2009, 06:36 AM	#14
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