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Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-28-2009, 04:51 PM

Nope, not really, but good try nevertheless. Social status, yes, good focus. The family relations are also a good focus. But there is something else what I am looking for.

Inziladun · 11-28-2009, 09:52 PM

Both were 'dispossessed' of their inheiritence; Frodo (voluntarily) of Bilbo, and Nienor of Húrin?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-29-2009, 06:42 AM

Nope, not that. Okay, the riddle is intentionally somewhat "distanced", if I wanted to be more plain, the focus could have been as well just on the people whom Frodo and Nienor are related to, not on themselves. Maybe it is easier for you to find the answer if you first find something in common for these particular relatives of them, and then make a conclusion of what it meant for the "status" of Frodo and Nienor themselves.

Mugwump · 11-29-2009, 11:29 AM

Relatives of people (Bilbo, Hurin) whom Sauron was looking for or were enemies of Sauron?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-29-2009, 11:45 AM

Nay, there were lots of other people whose parents or something were pursued by Sauron. No, this was not such a common trait (and I think it was quite unique, at least from top of the head I cannot think of anybody else).

Mugwump · 11-30-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Maybe it is easier for you to find the answer if you first find something in common for these particular relatives of them...

Which particular relatives of theirs? They each have way too many relatives. I give up.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-30-2009, 04:02 PM

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Which particular relatives of theirs? They each have way too many relatives. I give up.

Relatives who (logically of course) have something in common too, like their relationship to Frodo and Nienor. In other words, what do Frodo and Nienor have in common? Well, there was something which made their lives, fates, whatever, similar in the way because they had relatives (who were both "X" to them) and those relatives were both "Y". And that projected back on Frodo and Nienor. Now it probably sounds only far more confusing. Okay, if you think there is no way you could get it from here, I will tell you the names of the particular relatives.

Mugwump · 11-30-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Well ... they had relatives (who were both "X" to them) and those relatives were both "Y". And that projected back on Frodo and Nienor.

Um... f(x,y) = 2x^2 + 3*log(y-1)?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-01-2009, 04:42 AM

Does it mean that I should give the identities of the two relatives?

11-28-2009, 04:51 PM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Nope, not really, but good try nevertheless. Social status, yes, good focus. The family relations are also a good focus. But there is something else what I am looking for. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-28-2009, 09:52 PM	#2
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	Both were 'dispossessed' of their inheiritence; Frodo (voluntarily) of Bilbo, and Nienor of Húrin? __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

11-29-2009, 06:42 AM	#3
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Nope, not that. Okay, the riddle is intentionally somewhat "distanced", if I wanted to be more plain, the focus could have been as well just on the people whom Frodo and Nienor are related to, not on themselves. Maybe it is easier for you to find the answer if you first find something in common for these particular relatives of them, and then make a conclusion of what it meant for the "status" of Frodo and Nienor themselves. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-29-2009, 11:45 AM	#5
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Nay, there were lots of other people whose parents or something were pursued by Sauron. No, this was not such a common trait (and I think it was quite unique, at least from top of the head I cannot think of anybody else). __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-01-2009, 04:42 AM	#9
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Does it mean that I should give the identities of the two relatives? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-29-2009, 11:29 AM	#4
Mugwump Wight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Taconic Mountains Posts: 111	Relatives of people (Bilbo, Hurin) whom Sauron was looking for or were enemies of Sauron?