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Old 12-06-2009, 02:14 PM   #1
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What I don't get is why the wolves thought this whole Seer-reveal thing necessary, or even a good idea; it seems pretty risqué, and it'll put Lottie in a tight spot toMorrow.
Assuming your innocence - for the argument's sake here - I would agree that if Lottie is a wolf it would have been a bad idea indeed. And I can't see a reason for her to do it if she were a wolf.

But there is this secret role which Lottie probably is. What kind of role it is, is another matter. Lottie has told us she's a birthday dreamer, but that's actually all we have. It might be she's a cobbler of a kind, or a false seer (I've heard of that kind of role as well: there the "false-seer" thinks s/he's a seer but gets wrong information - but I think in a game with a false seer there is also a "right seer"), or whatever weird thing Legate has come up with.

I mean it can even be that Lottie has been what she is from the very beginning and now just tells us her powers work on the Night to come. But of that we have also only her word.

But however it is, we should see what Pitch is first and then act on that.

Talking of which...

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Old 12-06-2009, 02:16 PM   #2
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Assuming your innocence - for the argument's sake here - I would agree that if Lottie is a wolf it would have been a bad idea indeed. And I can't see a reason for her to do it if she were a wolf.

But there is this secret role which Lottie probably is. What kind of role it is, is another matter. Lottie has told us she's a birthday dreamer, but that's actually all we have. It might be she's a cobbler of a kind, or a false seer (I've heard of that kind of role as well: there the "false-seer" thinks s/he's a seer but gets wrong information - but I think in a game with a false seer there is also a "right seer"), or whatever weird thing Legate has come up with.

I mean it can even be that Lottie has been what she is from the very beginning and now just tells us her powers work on the Night to come. But of that we have also only her word.

But however it is, we should see what Pitch is first and then act on that.

Talking of which...

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My thoughts exactly. If it is a wolf move to do this elaborate reveal I'd go with Lottie (who either spearheaded it or was talked into it), Bes (the new kid), and either Mac or Boro (who are just mad enough to try something like this). Other than that I'd say Lottie could be some sort of something and could be telling the truth but twisting it, etc. But we'll know nothing until we lynch someone.
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:21 PM   #3
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Add-on to the former speculation.

If Pitch turns out wolf as it looks like, we can't afford leaving Lottie to be among the last players anyway. I mean we have no hurry to lynch her like toMorrow but the only reason a wolf might have tried this kind of a trick would have been trying to sway us into thinking she must be innocent beyond any reasonable doubt (and yes she was getting the heat there earlier so maybe a panic-solution?). Anyway, with only her word on her role I think we have not that condition with us.
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:23 PM   #4
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Add-on to the former speculation.

If Pitch turns out wolf as it looks like, we can't afford leaving Lottie to be among the last players anyway. I mean we have no hurry to lynch her like toMorrow but the only reason a wolf might have tried this kind of a trick would have been trying to sway us into thinking she must be innocent beyond any reasonable doubt (and yes she was getting the heat there earlier so maybe a panic-solution?). Anyway, with only her word on her role I think we have not that condition with us.
Well hopefully the wolves would take care of her, though at the same time I can't see why they would bother right away, as she's not a continuous threat and even if she was proven correct she wouldnt' be completely trusted. They could just leave her be.


Heh. I totally had this thought last night. Lottie!wolf realizes she's in deep crap, comes out as this one-hit wonder seer, busses Pitch, and after that she's safe. The wolves obviously aren't going to touch her, and since she only gets one dream all game she can claim that as the reason; why would the wolves bother killing a useless seer when there's a perfectly good ranger to get rid of? So she could theoretically just float through the game as a known innocent until the last Day where she turns out to be a wolf and she dies. I would think of it in her position so I don't see why Lottie wouldn't try it.

Again, hoping I'm wrong, but putting it out there anyway. It'd be a good scheme.


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Old 12-06-2009, 02:32 PM   #6
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Yeah, I pretty much expected you would say that considering you even hinted at it yesterDay.
Hinted? What do you mean? I don't remember thinking that way or saying anything like that.
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:33 PM   #7
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Again, hoping I'm wrong, but putting it out there anyway. It'd be a good scheme.
Well that's exactly what I was thinking. So rest assured, the wolves probably will not kill Lottie but leave her around for us to decide on. And it's reasonable for them. The Day we lynch Lottie we're not lynching one of them. So in a sense they would get three clean kills in a row (N-D-N) and would be able to breathe freely for one Day.
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Well that's exactly what I was thinking. So rest assured, the wolves probably will not kill Lottie but leave her around for us to decide on. And it's reasonable for them. The Day we lynch Lottie we're not lynching one of them. So in a sense they would get three clean kills in a row (N-D-N) and would be able to breathe freely for one Day.
I see what you did there. I think. But I hope not. Erm, anyway....


Also, good point from Lommie about another possible secret role (or rather the proper one if Lottie's lying) being able to reveal later.


Harrumph. ToDay was no fun. Then again, a Day where I'm spared is always a good Day, so I'll take what I can get. I'll make sure to get a look in at Bes, but this afternoon's simply too busy so I'll save some time later tonight to do it.
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:44 PM   #9
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Hinted? What do you mean? I don't remember thinking that way or saying anything like that.
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If I were a wolf with Nienna, chances are I'd be throwing her under the bus rather than saving her. Because with her vote record, she'd probably deserve it. Sorry Nienna.

In the past, I've had no problems with lynching a fellow wolf if I thought that was necessary to make myself look better and/or they were drawing enough attention to themselves anyway. Which is probably why I'm wary of the Mnemo voters. I know I'm not the only player here that doesn't mind throwing a fellow wolf under the bus.
Makes me actually wonder if Brinn's a wolf and Nienna's an innocent...
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Eleven minutes left. I wonder how the votes are coming?

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Oh yes, that's true, I had forgotten. But the tone of that post of yours just gave me that kind of feeling, but I wouldn't have ended up voting Nienna if I had thought of that being the most probable scenario.

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Nothing really new, but I can't find anything to comment about.

Currently, I don't suspect
Lottie, Boro, Nerwen

I don't suspect very much
Lommy (I used to have an eerie feeling about Lommy, but it's getting better. Good analysis: a lot of stuff in a concise way... if only everybody did it that way ), Bes, Sally, Eomer, Morsul

I'm really not sure about
Brinn (unless I missed it, you haven't commented on my comment about you voting Sally instead of Wilwa), Nogrod, Shasta

I suspect
Pitch, Wilwa


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Wilwa, obviously.
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Not sure what to make of Loslote. Interesting to read the accusations between my three other suspects, Wilwa, Shasta and Sally.
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