WWLXX: At the Prison of Ice

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Bes

The role Nog is describing does seem very awkward, yes. The point where it all falls apart for me is pretty basic: If that were the role, why would she ever reveal that she was a Birthday Dreamer when she could as easily claim to be a regular old Seer, and just hadn't found a wolf yet? She and most everyone else were already pretty confident about Pitch by that point, it would more or less be a done deal.

First of all claiming to be a regular seer would have been really dangerous as people would have wanted some names, basically on Day-to-Day basis. Of course a wolf could give you an innocent - even a mate as an innocent - every Day (and claim that every single person she had dreamt thus far had been killed or lynched already - which would be a bit eyebrow-raising as itself), but looking at the end-game there might have been some serious problems for the wolves, especially if the ranger got a hold of the game and started succesfully denying the wolves.

Secondly I think it would be highly unlikely a "secret role" would have been a normal seer role. That would have been even more an anticlimax than just a "one Night's seer" (which I honestly find an improbable and odd role).

Thirdly it might very well be that when she had to come up with this "one Night seer" -role to hide her real role she wished to give it a name - and named it with the name Legate had given her, her not knowing the ancestry of the role named thus (and Legate might be a person who studied history when using names on roles - the sad thing being I only remember it was thus... I'll try to find it but it might be quite laborious to find; so anyone who remembers the Birthday dreamer role accurately, please come forwards!).

Okay, I admit we're again walking the thin line between meta-reasons and in-game reasons, but as she actually said herself in this thread:

Originally Posted by Lottie

If it helps, Legate called the role the ,,birthday dreamer'' (with the funny commas and everything) and I was forbidden to reveal on Day 1.

I don't feel too bad pointing at it...


EDIT: X'd with Bes & Brinn (good to see you trying to find the thing Bes... didn't you find anythnig more on it? - Okay I'll give it a try as well)