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Old 01-17-2010, 01:30 PM   #1
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So I re-read from the beginning and quoted a bunch of stuff and here they are with my random thoughts, and then a list:

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I'm not having the best of times right now, so I'm just going to vote and go to bed. For reasons stated earlier:

++Morsul
I dislike this vote. Her reasons were that she didn't like Morsul's "out of nowhere" vote for Glirdan, but when he voted he was under the impression that DL was fast approaching, and it was kinda a rush in the moment thing. Lari's vote was the same, but Alona found nothing wrong with it.

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Being innocent and single gets you no action. (Heh. I see what I did there.)
I just think this is funny cause Sally and I ended up stranded in the same boat at the same time.

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Plain ordo like last game, I'm afraid. I'm actually surprised the wolves didn't go after me Night 1 - which might exclude Rikae, Wilwa, Lari and Shasta since they were present at the Bostonmoot games
This whole post bugs me too. I don't really get why she thought she was a logical wolf choice.

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Rikae: Admittedly scares me (in a good way, I think), so I'm glad to have her on my side in this game.
I'm aware this has been mentioned a lot already. Now if Rikae had ended up guilty I would be quite convinced that Alona is too. Rikae being innocent just makes me confused about this. I don't really know...

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Okay, but here's what worries me: your surety that Sally's a "known" innocent - when in fact, only Morsul and Glirdan are the "known" innocents.

Why are you so certain of Sally's innocence, Lottie?
Wow I quoted Alona alot....this is weird cause it was pretty obvious Sally was innocent. And it was explained to her a couple times but she still seemed to want to shed doubt on it.

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I disagree that it would be "in the wolves interest to (at least in the absence of a better kill) get rid of any unwanted attention." in regards to killing their lovers. It seems like a mighty large trail that they would be leaving behind. I can't imagine them being such generous (and obvious,) Hansel and Gretels.
Well I agree with this statement, but it's just the Hansel and Gretel thing, made me nostalgic.


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Also, she can steer us away from the Ranger, but she apparently can't lead us to a wolf at the moment. I don't want to lynch the Ranger, but I don't want an ordo either.
This still bothers me. I'd happily die if it meant the Ranger could survive, especially since our Seer needs him so much. Yes wolves are our priority, but Sally can give us an advantage over the wolves, therefore keeping the Ranger alive keeps her alive and stays on track with our objective. I don't really get why he objected to this.

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A flaw I see on that plan Wilwa is that it won't give us much information to go on toMorrow. If the person picked by Sally is not a wolf, then I imagine the wolves will have no problem in going along with it. I imagine they probably won't have much problem with it, even if it is a wolf - so they could try and blend in with the crowd.

Lynching a wolf is priority. If we can't get one, an ordo is better than a gifted.
She kinda goes against the idea like Inzil, but then her last sentence makes up for it, so that's fine actually, when I quoted this I hadn't noticed that last part.

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Also, I kind of want to know how everyone feels about their lovers.
Mine was awesome, may he rest in peace.

Sally: I don't think the Ranger needs to hint to you whether they protected you or not, too risky for him, cause he needs to stay alive as long as possible so he can protect you as long as possible. Oh, and if you didn't dream a wolf last Night then I'm gonna vote for whoever you vote for anyway, cause with our numbers dwindling I don't want to risk a last minute bandwaggon that kills our Ranger, cause then you're definitely dead toNight.

List? Ok then...

Nogrod: not too too much from him, but what I have seen I've agreed with or at least understood his logica and I don't see anything wrong with him

Alona: I want to trust her, and there's something nagging at the back of my head that is making me want to trust her, but there's also a lot of stuff that she's said that just urks me the wrong way (see above). So I'm on the fence here, it's like my half of me sees the logic that she could be guilty, then another half is like "no no, she's good, trust your gut"...so yeah, I don't know

Lari: uhm, kinda under my radar, but nothing stood out so I'm good here for now

Izzy: so yesterday she said something like she didn't get my whole Shasta deal, so I asked what she meant by that, and all she did was quote what I had said, she didn't really say what she found wrong with it, and then voted for me cause I didn't explain my reasoning (when I couldn't explain, since she never really told me what needed explaining)....so I don't like that, the vote itself I get, cause Shasta was a kinda rushed flimsy thing from me, but just that one part bugs me...I don't however have anything else against her at the moment, so this is not enough to go on, off this alone I would not vote for her

Inzil: ahh, my dear ex-lover, I'm really starting to suspect him. His comment that I quoted earlier was odd, and he at one point said I was "fixated" on the revealing lovers thing, when I actually had just made an off handed joking (only Lottie seems to pick up on the joking part) suggestion, and then others took it serious and actually followed through, so I wouldn't say I was fixated. Anyway....yeah, a few things here in there, I'll try to take a closer look later.

Shasta: Yes, I voted him yesterDay, yes the reasons were flimsy, and no I don't really have anything new to add about him right now.

Hmm. Need a break, the whole read through took me like an hour. Be back later.

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Old 01-17-2010, 03:23 PM   #2
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Interestingly the three who didn't vote on D2 were the first to post toDay...
Mainly 'cause I felt bad for not showing up for DL or the latter half of yesterDay.

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I dislike this vote. Her reasons were that she didn't like Morsul's "out of nowhere" vote for Glirdan, but when he voted he was under the impression that DL was fast approaching, and it was kinda a rush in the moment thing. Lari's vote was the same, but Alona found nothing wrong with it.
Morsul's vote came with him being gone for a majority of Day 1, whereas, when I talked with Lari throughout Day 1, even though she had work, she gave me the impression she'd sifted through the posts and based her vote on that. It was actually Izzy's comment about the DL that sparked her spontaneous vote. And at the time, Glirdan seemed more innocent than Shasta - even though it was Day 1.

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This whole post bugs me too. I don't really get why she thought she was a logical wolf choice.
Confused here. That who thought who was a logical wolf choice? All I did was use meta game to rule out a few possible wolves, and even that was a bit of a joke.

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I'm aware this has been mentioned a lot already. Now if Rikae had ended up guilty I would be quite convinced that Alona is too. Rikae being innocent just makes me confused about this. I don't really know...
Like I said, great frame, which makes me think experienced wolves might be playing here.

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Wow I quoted Alona alot....this is weird cause it was pretty obvious Sally was innocent. And it was explained to her a couple times but she still seemed to want to shed doubt on it.
I think Izzy asked about this, too. Basically I saw Inzil's post saying that Sally was the Night target, went with it at the beginning of the Day and then later started to question it while I was talking with Lari about it. My debate with Lottie went well into the early morning for me and I don't think I was thinking quite clearly at the time.
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Old 01-17-2010, 03:34 PM   #3
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Bloody interwebs.


Anyway I'm gonna take a look at Lari now. Back soon-ish.
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Old 01-17-2010, 03:35 PM   #4
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Was reading while my lunch cooked. Few comments.

Wilwa, I'd asked about the Shasta/Sally thing earlier on Day two, and had gotten no response about it. A specific quote # will have to wait until I come back.

While I was reading Sally's rundown of Nog, sorry - but I couldn't help but laugh a little. It just seems so fabricated, and.. over the top flimsy to me. Hindsight tends to be 20/20... but condemning someone with it, is just... o.O



Okay, back in a bit after lunch.

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Heh. I was just going to ask who was around, and then Izzy shows up.



Well you know how I like to get reactions. Nog's response to my analysis made me quite happy so it was definitely worth giving up a bit of sleep.


Anyone else around, by the way?
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Present, and working on an analysis about the PM pal list.
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Wow I quoted Alona alot....this is weird cause it was pretty obvious Sally was innocent. And it was explained to her a couple times but she still seemed to want to shed doubt on it.
Basically I saw Inzil's post saying that Sally was the Night target, went with it at the beginning of the Day and then later started to question it while I was talking with Lari about it.
That is interesting indeed!

So you kept talking with Lari a lot and she got you to suspect Sally's reveal?

But wait... you're not PM-pals! I'm not sure what to say. I mean this game should be played online in front of everyone, not privately somewhere outside the range of other ears.

Anyway it is interesting as well that wilwa wants to push after you for that if Lari had helped you to distrust Sally's reveal in a situation where it was more or less obvious...
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And Nog, I think she means that when she was on the thread with Lari she got confused and said the wrong things because she was tired. Am I right?


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And Nog, I think she means that when she was on the thread with Lari she got confused and said the wrong things because she was tired. Am I right?
Mostly, yeah. That, and Lari and I both didn't catch in the narration that it was Sally's character used.
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That is interesting indeed!

So you kept talking with Lari a lot and she got you to suspect Sally's reveal?

But wait... you're not PM-pals! I'm not sure what to say. I mean this game should be played online in front of everyone, not privately somewhere outside the range of other ears.
Lari and I were having a late night chat at her house and I was on the computer at the time, if really early morning memory serves. We're good friends in RL - she lives ten minutes from me.

Basically we were reading over how Lottie was going along with Sally's reveal and trusting it, and how Inzil was too, and then Lari (who also missed the clue in the narration until Shasta pointed it out to the both of us) wondered, "how do they know she was the target?" Because, ever since she started playing, she said that narrations never gave away who the attempted Night kills were.

I think it was mostly fueled by tensions with Lottie at the time, as I was having a debate with Lottie and Lari was already somewhat suspicious of Lottie.
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Well, I might have managed to lost my main point from my last post...

So if Lari made you suspect Sally's reveal alona, are you sure she was being straight with you, or was she using you to her purposes?
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Well, I might have managed to lost my main point from my last post...

So if Lari made you suspect Sally's reveal alona, are you sure she was being straight with you, or was she using you to her purposes?
Don't worry too much, I lose my train of thought all the time.

Since I was talking with her in person, I don't think so since I can read her pretty well - unless the move was pre-planned. I doubt that, though. Most of our conversation was about the restart.
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After all this hassle I'm even more confused...

I need to be offline for a moment but will be back pretty soon to vote and then to bed.
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It's just that Alona there is kinda a rule that people shouldn't communicate outside of a WW game, like that's why people can't PM and are suggested to not IM or chat or anything like that. I mean I know it's different in RL (Glirdan and I have been tempted before, and when my brother was on here it was pretty hard not too, I'd have to all out ignore him for a few days to be careful ). But it's highly suggested that you avoid talking about the game outside the game, atleast while both of you are still in it. Kinda gives you an unfair advantage. (haha, sorry, just the multiple-times-Mod in me that is a bit crazy about some of the not-stressed-upon-enough rules). I think that's why Nog brought it up.

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It's just that Alona there is kinda a rule that people shouldn't communicate outside of a WW game, like that's why people can't PM and are suggested to not IM or chat or anything like that. I mean I know it's different in RL (Glirdan and I have been tempted before, and when my brother was on here it was pretty hard not too, I'd have to all out ignore him for a few days to be careful ). But it's highly suggested that you avoid talking about the game outside the game, atleast while both of you are still in it. Kinda gives you an unfair advantage. (haha, sorry, just the multiple-times-Mod in me that is a bit crazy about some of the not-stressed-enough rules). I think that's why Nog brought it up.

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Eek okay I can see that. Lari actually left this morning to go back to Claremont, so there won't be much more in person chatting with her for a couple months but I'll stay away from the topic online, too.

You had to ignore your brother for a few days? Poor Wilwa...
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Eek okay I can see that. Lari actually left this morning to go back to Claremont, so there won't be much more in person chatting with her for a couple months but I'll stay away from the topic online, too.

You had to ignore your brother for a few days? Poor Wilwa...
Heh. Duck and I couldn't manage it when we were in Shasta's game.

Okay, to be fair, I couldn't handle it. I just squee too much.



Also, for enjoyment....duck and I were talking a bit ago.



Sally:
I'm trying to decide what to do about (player)
*ponders*
*strokes hair on her chin*
Blast. Need to pluck that.
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Eat (her/him).
Sally:
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erm, okay
why?
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Because (he/she)’s tasty?
Sally:
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good enough for me!
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Hurrah!
Sally:

Duck:
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Sally:
om nom
lol
Duck:
Om nom nom.
Sally:
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Duck:
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MASTICATE
MASTICATE
Duck:
Hehehe




Lol. Because I love my duck. ^_^
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You had to ignore your brother for a few days? Poor Wilwa...
Yeah, it was weird cause we're close, but then once the game was done it'd give us something interesting to talk about for a while, and the rest of the family would be confused. Good times. (Wayne the Goblin, if your curious as to his screen name)

Now, when I play with Glirdan on the other hand, it's quite nice getting a little RL break from him! Especially cause we're always trying to kill each other in the games and I think we both kinda bug each other because our playing styles are soooo different and we surprisingly suck at reading each other, real test of our friendship! (would love it if he saw this )

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