T-I-G WW LXXIV: War of the Wolves - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

satansaloser2005 · 03-22-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Sally the problem is that I can't see a wolf seer posting a false dream. It seems to me as a drastic move made by someone troubled, but whom?

A lover whose dearest is in danger? Doesn't still quite make sense.

But I'm sorry, I have to leave you with your own judgement here. I can't stay here and start an argument with Nogrod, it's 1.30am and I have an early morning. Do what you see best but gah at least Nogrod has probably stolen me from sleep tonight...

...

good night.

Exactly. Why would he lie? As a lover he'd be doomed either for lying or for being believed, and as the real gifted he'd have the same dilemma.

Like I said, I don't know which one he is, but I also don't know why he'd lie. My personal guess is that he's a wolf seer who has found you to be part of the other pack (or has dreamt you as a gifted and wants to eliminate you, but you'd have said something I think) and is willing to give himself up to help his pack eliminate one of the enemy.

Right now I'm interested in getting it down to two sides. It makes my life a lot easier for later on in the game. Three teams is too much for me.

satansaloser2005 · 03-22-2010, 05:50 PM

You know, why not?

++Pitchwife

We've got one wolf in the bag and this way I can get rid of my top suspect too. That means a guaranteed lynch toMorrow and less discussion, but....gah, now I'm talking myself out of it. Lol perhaps not. *thinks about this* Yay stream of consciousness! K, so if we get another one toDay (from either pack) it allows us to be down possibly one toDay and then a guaranteed one toMorrow. Of course unicorns, blah blah, which I don't understand 'cause I'm silly and need to read the rules again, but I think it could work. Erm....you know how I am. Heh.

So I guess I'm saying....

??Pitchwife

It'd be an interesting experiment, for sure, and it would still get the result of a dead Lommie ASAP. That and it's not like killing Lommie toDay would reduce the Night kills. (Then again, I kind of want to know which wolf she is, so dunno.)

Boro, my head hurts too!

satansaloser2005 · 03-22-2010, 05:52 PM

Well, Wilwa, why kill her toNight when he could kill her toDay and try for the innocent seer toNight? I'm not saying it's the case, but it's possible.

Like you said, it's Nog. I mean....sense? No. Logic, yes, but no sense.

satansaloser2005 · 03-22-2010, 05:54 PM

Pitch, watch your mouth. Kthnxbye.

Also, I thought it out so much because I was the one trying to trick someone in the first place, hence I had to decide how to do stuff so I could get the right reaction. To be honest, I didn't really expect to hear it from you, but still.

What to do, what to do....I know! Dinner.

wilwarin538 · 03-22-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

It'd be an interesting experiment, for sure, and it would still get the result of a dead Lommie ASAP. That and it's not like killing Lommie toDay would reduce the Night kills. (Then again, I kind of want to know which wolf she is, so dunno.)

Maybe if she was a normal wolf, but in this game if she's a wolf she has an ability. I would rather not risk leaving an evil seer or evil ranger around longer than we need to, just so that we can potentially lynch an innocent. She's our best bet, there's no reason for "experiments" or for leaving her for tomorrow.

satansaloser2005 · 03-22-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Maybe if she was a normal wolf, but in this game if she's a wolf she has an ability. I would rather not risk leaving an evil seer or evil ranger around longer than we need to, just so that we can potentially lynch an innocent. She's our best bet, there's no reason for "experiments" or for leaving her for tomorrow.

Exactly why I didn't end up voting. I'd love to do it, but with our luck she'd be the seer wolf and up taking one of our gifteds from us.

Still, I'm not voting yet, 'cause I'd like to leave it for a bit, mull things while I have a sandwich. And possibly a muffin.

wilwarin538 · 03-22-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Well, Wilwa, why kill her toNight when he could kill her toDay and try for the innocent seer toNight? I'm not saying it's the case, but it's possible.

But then he would be dead cause the other wolf pack would kill him. A wolfseer has absolutely no reason to do this, certainly not on Day 1.

Why are you so hard set on not believing the seer? You seem to have been sure all Day that you wouldn't believe any seer reveal, but you have to admit that there is no real reason not to trust this one.

x'ed with the cupcake, muffins are wonderful

satansaloser2005 · 03-22-2010, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wilwarin538

But then he would be dead cause the other wolf pack would kill him. A wolfseer has absolutely no reason to do this, certainly not on Day 1.

Why are you so hard set on not believing the seer? You seem to have been sure all Day that you wouldn't believe any seer reveal, but you have to admit that there is no real reason not to trust this one.

I'm not! I just know that there's too much going on and so I'm not going to believe things right away.

I completely believe what he's said, which is why I proposed that silly little plan with the implication that Lommie's a wolf, 'cause he's got no reason to lie.

He could be a wolf seer trying to get rid of an opposing wolf, ordo or otherwise. Or he could be the proper gifted who's dreamt a wolf. Either way, it's very Nog and I'll happily believe him, but I'm not going to write him off as innocent.

Why are you so keen on believing him? I think that's a better question. *shrugs*

Nogrod · 03-22-2010, 06:02 PM

And I thought revealing my role would prove to be an anti-climax...

It looks like Wilwa is the only sane person around.

Okay, chew it, think it, judge it.

And I'm getting pretty suspicious of Boro. To a lesser extent of Sally.

But let's give them time to read and think again? Or did they just reveal their alignment? I mean anyone in cahoots with Lommy might make a fight as losing one of their team would mean a bad disadvantage to them.

Anyway you need to lynch Lommy. Really. She's a wolf.

Just go on thinking I'm a wolf-seer if you wish. Be my quests. But Lommy is a wolf. And rest assured I'm dead on Night3 the latest. That's kind of unavoidable.

EDIT: X'd with a host again

satansaloser2005 · 03-22-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

And I thought revealing my role would prove to be an anti-climax...

It looks like Wilwa is the only sane person around.

Okay, chew it, think it, judge it.

And I'm getting pretty suspicious of Boro. To a lesser extent of Sally.

But let's give them time to read and think again? Or did they just reveal their alignment? I mean anyone in cahoots with Lommy might make a fight as losing one of their team would mean a bad disadvantage to them.

Anyway you need to lynch Lommy. Really. She's a wolf.

Just go on thinking I'm a wolf-seer if you wish. Be my quests. But Lommy is a wolf. And rest assured I'm dead on Night3 the latest. That's kind of unavoidable.

EDIT: X'd with a host again

Well I don't not believe you. I just don't trust you. There's a big difference.

Heh. I have no alignment. At least not with Lommie.

Meh, there's no reason not to. Besides, I'm too comfy to get up and actually make that sandwich.

++Thinwolfien

Now I think our resident child murderer should go to bed and stop making me think. I really am getting a headache. *hugs you, kicks you toward bed*

Inziladun · 03-22-2010, 06:22 PM

Decisions, decisions.

I think it likely Nog really is some sort of Seer. I do think it's unusual for him to have revealed this early, especially when he was in no danger of being lynched. Normally, if a revealed Seer's dream turns out to be a wolf, we have a pretty good indication they're legitimate. That isn't the case this time. However, regardless of whether he's a wolf or the Seer, he now has a large target on his back. If he's a wolf, I can't see him thinking this would really be a smart move.
Also we have twice the risk of being Night-killed than normal, so maybe that does explain his wanting to get this out soonish.

++Lommy

x/d with Wilwa, Boro, and Nog

Isabellkya · 03-22-2010, 06:36 PM

I am going to trust Nog on this and ...

++Lommy

03-22-2010, 05:50 PM	#2
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	You know, why not? ++Pitchwife We've got one wolf in the bag and this way I can get rid of my top suspect too. That means a guaranteed lynch toMorrow and less discussion, but....gah, now I'm talking myself out of it. Lol perhaps not. thinks about this Yay stream of consciousness! K, so if we get another one toDay (from either pack) it allows us to be down possibly one toDay and then a guaranteed one toMorrow. Of course unicorns, blah blah, which I don't understand 'cause I'm silly and need to read the rules again, but I think it could work. Erm....you know how I am. Heh. So I guess I'm saying.... ??Pitchwife It'd be an interesting experiment, for sure, and it would still get the result of a dead Lommie ASAP. That and it's not like killing Lommie toDay would reduce the Night kills. (Then again, I kind of want to know which wolf she is, so dunno.) Boro, my head hurts too! __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

03-22-2010, 05:52 PM	#3
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Well, Wilwa, why kill her toNight when he could kill her toDay and try for the innocent seer toNight? I'm not saying it's the case, but it's possible. Like you said, it's Nog. I mean....sense? No. Logic, yes, but no sense. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

03-22-2010, 05:54 PM	#4
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Pitch, watch your mouth. Kthnxbye. Also, I thought it out so much because I was the one trying to trick someone in the first place, hence I had to decide how to do stuff so I could get the right reaction. To be honest, I didn't really expect to hear it from you, but still. What to do, what to do....I know! Dinner. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

03-22-2010, 06:02 PM	#9
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	And I thought revealing my role would prove to be an anti-climax... It looks like Wilwa is the only sane person around. Okay, chew it, think it, judge it. And I'm getting pretty suspicious of Boro. To a lesser extent of Sally. But let's give them time to read and think again? Or did they just reveal their alignment? I mean anyone in cahoots with Lommy might make a fight as losing one of their team would mean a bad disadvantage to them. Anyway you need to lynch Lommy. Really. She's a wolf. Just go on thinking I'm a wolf-seer if you wish. Be my quests. But Lommy is a wolf. And rest assured I'm dead on Night3 the latest. That's kind of unavoidable. EDIT: X'd with a host again __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

03-22-2010, 06:22 PM	#11
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	Decisions, decisions. I think it likely Nog really is some sort of Seer. I do think it's unusual for him to have revealed this early, especially when he was in no danger of being lynched. Normally, if a revealed Seer's dream turns out to be a wolf, we have a pretty good indication they're legitimate. That isn't the case this time. However, regardless of whether he's a wolf or the Seer, he now has a large target on his back. If he's a wolf, I can't see him thinking this would really be a smart move. Also we have twice the risk of being Night-killed than normal, so maybe that does explain his wanting to get this out soonish. ++Lommy x/d with Wilwa, Boro, and Nog __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

03-22-2010, 06:36 PM	#12
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	I am going to trust Nog on this and ... ++Lommy __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.