WW: LXXVI - At Moria: EXTRA Edition

[Inziladun]

Hmm. Slow toDay, innit?

Let's see. With BG gone toDay, two wolves left. And who might they be?

Looking back, there was an effort to avoid lynching Boro, and at the same time stay away from the poisonous McCaber vote. Who was behind that?

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Erm....let me think about it. (No, seriously. Let me look at Blind's stuff and then I'll decide. Right now I don't think Boro's as transparently evil as we all think.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

So..............................

I have a really bad feeling about this Boro lynch. Does anyone want to know why?

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Erm....well, I sort of kind of think he's been hinting that he's a gifted.

The "hints" that Sally gave for her reasons she thought Boro might be a Gifted did not give me the same idea. I thought that was a serious reach.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Let's do it then. I'm just too uncertain about the Boro thing to lynch him right now. What do you say, Little Lottie? All innocents together?

"All innocents together"? Really?

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Well I'm not a wolf and I noticed, so heck if I know. And I'm probably wrong, but with that niggling right there I don't want to go and kill him and then have my only prize be an 'I told you so' dance at the start of toMorrow. Like I told Boro re: his plan, without risk there's no reward. I'm willing to keep him around another Day, even if just one, so I can decide whether or not I believe those 'hints'.

"I'm not a wolf".

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

See, the best (or worst) part of that is that I totally assumed Boro was the ranger or hunter (based on another post he made) and that you (Nerwen) were in fact the seer. Obviously in this perfect little world you didn't dream him, but I thought you were probably gifted of some design.

Now here, Sally says that she thought Boro was hinting at being the Ranger or the Hunter, and she believed from that Nerwen was the Seer. Question: if she thought Nerwen was the Seer, why this effort to save Boro, when Nerwen was heavily pushing for his lynch well before she revealed? Something doesn't quite add up.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Now here, Sally says that she thought Boro was hinting at being the Ranger or the Hunter, and she believed from that Nerwen was the Seer. Question: if she thought Nerwen was the Seer, why this effort to save Boro, when Nerwen was heavily pushing for his lynch well before she revealed? Something doesn't quite add up.

Mnmn. Interesting.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Now here, Sally says that she thought Boro was hinting at being the Ranger or the Hunter, and she believed from that Nerwen was the Seer. Question: if she thought Nerwen was the Seer, why this effort to save Boro, when Nerwen was heavily pushing for his lynch well before she revealed? Something doesn't quite add up.

You'll notice I said I'd be willing to lynch him if I had more time to look at things and make up my mind properly. I just didn't want to take the risk of killing a gifted when I had other suspects I was more happy to lynch. (At that time, Blind, in fact, because of her insanely wolfish posts late in the Day.)

And yeah, I just assumed she suspected him. Besides, since I was squirming about the possibility of Boro being a gifted (which he thankfully wasn't, so while I'm not happy Nerwen had to come out I'm glad that got sorted) I didn't think it all the way through. Basically I was going for gifted preservation, or at least trying to.



In other news, I made a list last Night, just so I could keep track of who was playing. (When I say last Night it was more of right after deadline yesterDay, but same difference, eh?) Also, I've not read toDay thoroughly (most of it not at all) so this is of course subject to change. (Oh, and obviously I removed Elf. Heh.)



Innocent:
Sally (ordo)
Nerwen (seer)
Lottie?
Mira?
Tum?
Paranoia?

Guilty:
Blind (who formerly had a question mark, but obviously no more)
Cel?
Dun?
Morsul?

[satansaloser2005]

At the time rationale, by the way:

Paranoia probably is not a wolf because I don't think Shasta would put two newbies in a wolf pack, even with Boro. I know it's meta, but I think that if (for instance) Paranoia, Tum, and Blind were drawn as wolves, Shasta would be like "erm, no" and redraw. Of course if there's another very experienced wolf around (which most of us would be if we were in that role) it could happen. Dunno.

Cel just doesn't give wolf vibes. I know she's busy, but I think she'd be trying a bit harder if she was a wolf. (Not that I think she's trying to slack, but I think she would at least stir up more discussion if she didn't want to be dead weight.)

Nog should be in this game, because he should be a wolf in it. He's not. So wrong.

Morsul's either evil or just not helpful. Either way he's not an asset to the village, so while I'd much rather vote a confirmed wolf over him I'd be very happy to be rid of the possible faily danger he brings with him.

I've got no reasoning on Tum, because....well, I'm used to her in RL so I'm still getting used to her in WW and it's hard to read her yet.



Dun, actually, grows more and more light as I read his posts. However, I know how dangerous it is to underestimate him so I went with caution on my list.

Lottie's innocent in my brain, at least right now. But she's....weird. Can't explain.

I don't have anything to say about Mira, which is disconcerting, but I'm feeling good shiny things about her so I'll have to analyze (both of) her later to see what I think properly.


EDIT: x'd with Paranoia

[satansaloser2005]

You know what'd be great? Make the wolves get modfired (sort of).

So assuming most of us already hadn't voted for Blind, we could have gone for X, Y, or Z. I know, it'd be possibly reducing our numbers, but we do know Blind's a wolf, so we could take down their pack and leave them for later. She probably would either go along with the majority (which tells us nothing, alas) or make crap up (the same) but she'd really just be dead weight, if she even voted at all. We have known baddies build up and then we just lynch them off in a row. Ah, it'd be so great.

(Alternatively, this would be better in a game with multiple lynches. Leave people hanging out and then lynch like three wolves in a Day. It'd be a good feeling.)


Sorry. Had the thought and it just made me cackle. I need to put in some laundry, watch Dr. Horrible (again), and read through the thread.



ETA: The modfire mention was for if we could get the wolf to just not vote at all. They'd not do it because it'd be letting us get a free lynch, but it would be funny. *shrug*

[satansaloser2005]

Seriously, how are there no posts?

[Paranoia]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Seriously, how are there no posts?

Simple. Follow the cop blues. -__- So many people let the cop (or seer as you guys know it) lead where I'm at as soon as they claim they all but shut down when they decided on a lynch for the day. It gets really aggravating, really quick. Not much is benefited for the town if everyone's sitting in limbo so uh... guys? Pick it up?

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, come on, people. What do you all think of each other?

Suspicious:
BeiGe
Morsul?
Noia?
Sally????? (Not at all sure there, but Zil makes good points...)

Innocent:
Nerwen
Me
Mira?
Xed?
Zil?

Not a clue:
Tum

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I don't have time at the moment to give my impressions of everyone, but I think tum deserves some serious attention toDay for going along with Boro and voting McCaber. Along with BG, it looked like she was obviously trying to save Boro, and with so many people saying why voting Cab was not a good idea for the village, I see no legitimate reason tum would have done it anyway.

This is a really good point, but I have a hard time believing there were no innocents at all in that bandwaggon. Could be, but I think that'd be wacky.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Hmm. Slow toDay, innit?

Let's see. With BG gone toDay, two wolves left. And who might they be?

Looking back, there was an effort to avoid lynching Boro, and at the same time stay away from the poisonous McCaber vote. Who was behind that?

The "hints" that Sally gave for her reasons she thought Boro might be a Gifted did not give me the same idea. I thought that was a serious reach.

"All innocents together"? Really?

"I'm not a wolf".

Now here, Sally says that she thought Boro was hinting at being the Ranger or the Hunter, and she believed from that Nerwen was the Seer. Question: if she thought Nerwen was the Seer, why this effort to save Boro, when Nerwen was heavily pushing for his lynch well before she revealed? Something doesn't quite add up.

Like I said above, that's a very good point. All of a sudden, I'm not feeling as happy about Sally as I was earlier...

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Morsul's either evil or just not helpful. Either way he's not an asset to the village, so while I'd much rather vote a confirmed wolf over him I'd be very happy to be rid of the possible faily danger he brings with him.

~~~

Lottie's innocent in my brain, at least right now. But she's....weird. Can't explain.

I have to agree with you about Morsul, although I'm more inclinded to think him evil.

Also, didn't we already know I'm weird?

Originally Posted by Paranoia

Not much is benefited for the town if everyone's sitting in limbo so uh... guys? Pick it up?

Eh, I'm working on that now, but I'm actually going to have to leave early - friend's graduation party - so I'm not going to be around at dl. Sowie.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by autume98

Yes I did put my vote in early. At the time, I really didn't have any suspicions, and I had to vote because a strong storm had come through earlier in the day and knocked out the power in parts of the city. The internet kept on going down, and I didn't NOT want to vote. I saw voting for Cabs my best option. I didn't want to put a vote in for an innocent.

Originally Posted by autume98

I'll have to go back, but I think he became more of a candidate after I voted. I do remember talk about the reasoning for voting vs. not voting for Cabs. If Boro was a main suspect that would be me not understanding that he was a suspect at the time.

There are such things as timestamps, tum. You were around for over an hour yesterDay, which I believe is quite long enough to get an idea of what was going on. Also, you made six posts in that time. In three of them (#249, #254, #257) you defended Boro; in three (#257, #263, #273) you discussed Boro's vote-plan. Yet now you say you didn't realise he was under suspicion? Really?

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

And yeah, I just assumed she suspected him. Besides, since I was squirming about the possibility of Boro being a gifted (which he thankfully wasn't, so while I'm not happy Nerwen had to come out I'm glad that got sorted) I didn't think it all the way through. Basically I was going for gifted preservation, or at least trying to.

But why did you think I was the Seer, then? Who did you think I had dreamed?

EDIT:X'd with Loslote.