WW: LXXVI - At Moria: EXTRA Edition

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Question it all you like; it's still true. I have ways of knowing...

Really, though, she's innocent. I wouldn't be surprised if she were the Hunter - but even if she's not, and Mira is (either you or Noia would have revealed by now, and I know I'm not) she's not a wolf. Trust me on this one. Sally's actually incredibly easy to read, once you figure out her little secrets. Even easier than you, Zil.

EDIT: xed with Noia

Ah, yes, yes I am. When I want to be. ^_^


Lottie, who do you suspect most? Oh, Paranoia and Dun? See, I'm good at math!

[Keeper of Dol Guldur]

I do indeed still have double hunt.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Keeper of Dol Guldur

I do indeed still have double hunt.

HECK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I love you very much, precious. *snuggles you*

++Mira (for representative lawl)

[satansaloser2005]

Sally: Dun and (toss-up right now)
Lottie: Dun and Paranoia
Dun: Paranoia and Sally
Mira: ?
Paranoia: Dun and ?



So I think there's a bit of a consensus here on Dun. Don't know who the other hunt will be. (My guess is either Paranoia or Lottie, because I know there's at least two people who trust me.) Mira, who do you suspect?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

So I think there's a bit of a consensus here on Dun. Don't know who the other hunt will be. (My guess is either Paranoia or Lottie, because I know there's at least two people who trust me.) Mira, who do you suspect?

By the way, Sally, I've given reasons why I've suspected you. What's your evidence against me?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

By the way, Sally, I've given reasons why I've suspected you. What's your evidence against me?

Process of elimination, really, at this point. That and I never like to take your innocence for granted. You're acting the same way you have before as a wolf and this "case" against me looks far too much like you want to draw attention away from your furry little self.



Anyway, back now, and on Tum's computer since Abigail's contracted some strange illness at the moment. Gonna look at Paranoia and will be back with conclusions.

[Loslote]

Oh, and...

++Mira

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Process of elimination, really, at this point. That and I never like to take your innocence for granted. You're acting the same way you have before as a wolf and this "case" against me looks far too much like you want to draw attention away from your furry little self.

And here I am, thinking the same of you.

Well, it's up to our Hunter. Mira, if you have time to do so, please look back at everyone who remains yourself. Don't rely on our analysis. I'm ready to stand by my record here, because I know what I am. If you really want to hunt me, have at it. I'd prefer you didn't, because then the chances of bagging a wolf are halved.

But, as you will.

[satansaloser2005]

Where is everyone?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Where is everyone?

Ich bin hier.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Dun, if you had to choose between Paranoia and Lottie, who would you think is the wolf? I know, I'm not including me, but I'm just asking between those two.

I would pick Lottie over Para, I think.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Not how do I look guilty, but how do they look any better? Especially Lottie.

I think Para is an unlikely wolf because of what I said here.

As for Lottie, I took some time last Night looking back at her (among others) and just didn't see anything that pointed to her wolvishness.

As you said, process of elimination, and some previously voiced concerns, lead me to suspecting mainly you at this point.

Actually, it would be bloody hilarious if the last wolf was Lottie or Para and we're here at each other's throats.

[satansaloser2005]

That's why I'm asking, actually. I looked you over again and just....I'm not sure. Like I said before, I'd have to get rid of you just to be on the safe side (and for that I'm sorry) but I really think Lottie's been crying wolf when she actually is one.



I contacted Mira, and she said she would (hopefully) be back in an hour and a half or so, and I'm hoping we can get her to switch at least one of her picks to Lottie. Really, I'd be happy with Lottie and Paranoia if that was her decision, but I really don't think Paranoia is the other wolf; it doesn't work out in my brain. You, Dun, I'm not as certain, but I'm definitely putting Lottie to the top of my list.



If it wouldn't completely screw us, I'd say we should just lynch Lottie. But if I'm wrong (which I don't think I am, but still) we have no hope of winning. Rubbish.

[satansaloser2005]

Also, Dun, if there's any other questions I can answer for you I'd love to. This is too big a Day for us to be wasted on me being killed, because while I can die along with a wolf, I do have a reputation to protect and unfortunately the way Mira's hunting right now it would remain intact.

(Every time I've died as an ordo the wolves have won. If I die along with another innocent, we're in deep trouble. And of course I don't want my "the village needs me" spiel to be ruined. Hehe.)

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

That's why I'm asking, actually. I looked you over again and just....I'm not sure. Like I said before, I'd have to get rid of you just to be on the safe side (and for that I'm sorry) but I really think Lottie's been crying wolf when she actually is one.

Is there anything specifically that Lottie has said or done though, that makes you suspicious of her? Her seemingly unshakeable trust for you has me rather flummoxed, I'll admit.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I contacted Mira, and she said she would (hopefully) be back in an hour and a half or so, and I'm hoping we can get her to switch at least one of her picks to Lottie. Really, I'd be happy with Lottie and Paranoia if that was her decision, but I really don't think Paranoia is the other wolf; it doesn't work out in my brain. You, Dun, I'm not as certain, but I'm definitely putting Lottie to the top of my list.

See, I know I'm innocent, so I'd be good with you and Lottie. The more I think about Para, the less lupine he looks. Like I said earlier, if it does turn out that he was the wolf, he's done a bang-up job and my hat's off to him.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

If it wouldn't completely screw us, I'd say we should just lynch Lottie. But if I'm wrong (which I don't think I am, but still) we have no hope of winning. Rubbish.

Well, there's just one vote for Mira right now, so it could technically be done. But I'm not nearly certain enough of anyone to want to take a crap-shoot on a single lynch when we can double our chances.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Also, Dun, if there's any other questions I can answer for you I'd love to. This is too big a Day for us to be wasted on me being killed, because while I can die along with a wolf, I do have a reputation to protect and unfortunately the way Mira's hunting right now it would remain intact.

(Every time I've died as an ordo the wolves have won. If I die along with another innocent, we're in deep trouble. And of course I don't want my "the village needs me" spiel to be ruined. Hehe.)

It's Mira's decision, so what I think really isn't all that important. It's occurred to me though, that every time I've been hunted I've been innocent, and the wolves won. Means nothing for the present game from anyone else's pov, but that's not a trend I'd like to keep repeating.

[Paranoia]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Where is everyone?

I'm waking up after napping.

++Mira

Anyway, I'm thinking the hunt should be used on.... I'm not particularly sure on who to request to be hunted. I'm decidedly against Lottie at the moment; I haven't seen any reason for her refusal to request Sally's hunt. No reason to trust someone is usually a sign of furriness in my book.

Zul at least is explaining himself... but since I've already stated why I don't think Sally is a wolf, I don't see much reason in recommending her to be hunted above him, so I'm recommending [b]Lottie and Dun/b].

Edit: Xed a whole bunch of times with Sally and Dun.

[satansaloser2005]

I second Paranoia's notion. Sorry, Dun, but you know how "better safe than sorry" works.



So that's....


Paranoia: Lottie and Dun
Dun: Sally and Lottie
Lottie: Dun and Paranoia
Sally: Lottie and Dun
Mira: Sally and Dun


That makes the count as follows

Dun: 4
Lottie: 3
Sally: 2
Paranoia: 1



With that logic the hunt should be Dun and Lottie, taking into account mathematics and all that rubbish.

[Inziladun]

Before I forget....

++Mira

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I second Paranoia's notion. Sorry, Dun, but you know how "better safe than sorry" works.

If Mira sticks with me, I just hope she makes her second one count.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

If Mira sticks with me, I just hope she makes her second one count.

Me too. I suspect Lottie way over you, but I'd hate to let you get off if you were the last wolf.

[satansaloser2005]

MIRA, COME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!


*offers cookies for someone to bloody post*

[Inziladun]

Like this?

[Keeper of Dol Guldur]

Back, sorry sorry sorry! (By the way, power walking across campus in heels is a bad idea). Ima go with Inzil and Lottie.

It occurred to me halfway through Robin Hood that I'll be really upset if Paranoia turns out to be the last wolf and flew so far under the radar that I didn't suspect him. Of course my gut is always wrong in this game and I'll probably be slamming my head against a wall in about 12 minutes.

[Inziladun]

I really wish you'd swap me for Sally, but que sara, sara.....

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I really wish you'd swap me for Sally, but que sara, sara.....

No, no, no! My record shall be kept intact. And besides, I'd love to be alive at the end of a game for once. Especially as an ordo! It's about time!

[Inziladun]

At least one part of my record will be intact.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Like this?

Yes. *hands over cookies*

Originally Posted by Keeper of Dol Guldur

Back, sorry sorry sorry! (By the way, power walking across campus in heels is a bad idea). Ima go with Inzil and Lottie.

It occurred to me halfway through Robin Hood that I'll be really upset if Paranoia turns out to be the last wolf and flew so far under the radar that I didn't suspect him. Of course my gut is always wrong in this game and I'll probably be slamming my head against a wall in about 12 minutes.

*sighs in relief* And yeah, me too, but I don't think we'll have to worry about it.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Five extreme cavern-divers remained.

There was Inziladun, who had mastered the art of falling feet-first, avoiding hazards expertly.

There was Sally, who prefered a more laid-back approach (literally), staring up at where she'd fallen from, trusting to luck more than anything else to keep her from hitting anything on the way down.

There was Paranoia, new to the mines of Moria, but not so new to the predicament in which they'd found themselves, falling belly-first into the bowels of Moria.

There was Lottie, the perky one, whose voice echoed back from the walls of the deep cavern as they plummeted in song, keeping their spirits up as they fell into the unknown.

Finally, there was Mira, the only one of them who'd thought to bring any weapons with her into the forsaken hole. A gleaming sword glittered in her hand (or would have, if it hadn't been quite dark down there) as she eyed the other four.

Which two would she take with her? Sally and Paranoia? Paranoia and Inziladun? Sally and Lottie? Lottie and Paranoia? Sally and Paranoia?

...

Inziladun and Lottie?

Yes, Mira mused, manuevering herself for the kill. Those two seemed like the most likely candidates. Precise Inziladun, always ready with just the right word or comment for the situation... like he was thinking overly hard on what would make him seem normal. Lottie, with her utter niceness, playing so buddy-buddy with Sally and herself, with her "just-us-girls" attitude.

It had to be one of them, right?

Inziladun was half asleep when she came close to him. Perfect. Mira swung her sword and Inziladun's head left his shoulders quite silently.... nothing. Sally and Paranoia looked on, eyes wide with hope and fear, as she pushed off the falling body of Inziladun and leapt over to Lottie.

Lottie took one look at the sword, then deep into Mira's eyes. She saw the iron-hard determination there, and her eyes widened and filled with tears.

Mira swung her sword.

Lottie's head separated from her shoulders and fell into the abyss, faster than her body, hair streaming in the wind from her passage.

....

....

....

....

....

A mournful howl filled the cavern from somewhere below them...

....

INNOCENTS WIN

Paranoia, Sally remain alive, and along with the rest of the innocents take first place.

Boro, Blind, Autume, Lottie take second place.

[Paranoia]

WHAT. 4/5 AT THE START OF THE GAME AAHHHH this is a new feeling for me.

Also, I'm not that new. XD I've been playing Mafia which is essentially the same game forever now. This is just my first time here. <_<

GG all. XD

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Paranoia

WHAT. 4/5 AT THE START OF THE GAME AAHHHH this is a new feeling for me.

Also, I'm not that new. XD I've been playing Mafia which is essentially the same game forever now. This is just my first time here. <_<

GG all. XD

Heh. Mafia and Werewolf are insanely different, so yes, it's a new thing for you. And you were fabulous!



Also, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ^_^

[Isabellkya]

First Night kill, and the Cobbler... DOH!

I can’t believe no one, save for probably Sally - picked up on Mira’s Hunter hint. It was a direct response from you asking about the Hunter.

Every time someone called Paranoia a newbie, I giggled. Perhaps to WW, yes - but the differences between it and mafia; are quite small. He had even mentioned playing with me before. Had he been a wolf, he would’ve been cleared for one of the silliest things. Meta-reasons to clear a person are always quite iffy.


I really wanted the wolves to pull out a victory. Though overall I think the town was going to win anyhow - in the long run the wolves win tallywise. Buuuttt, I think if the wolves had won, it would've been a serious slap in the face to the town. Considering the dreams and how many people were modkilled.. and inactive.

Thanks for hosting Tanner. xD

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Night 0

Dream: Boromir88

Cobber - Isabellkya knows of Wolf - Loslote

Night 1

Dream: Glirdan

Hunt: Inziladun

Save: Paranoia

Kill: Isabellkya


Night 2

Dream: Blind Guardian, Autume98

Hunt: satansaloser2005 (I think, back me up on this Mira?)

Save: Nerwen, Nerwen

Kill: The Elf-Warrior


Night 3

Dream: satansaloser2005

Hunt: satansaloser2005 (I think?)

Save: Celuien

Kill: Nerwen, Nerwen (second kill unused)


Night 4:

Hunt: I don't even remember

Save: Keeper of Dol Guldur

Kill: Celuien, Celuien (second kill unused)

[Keeper of Dol Guldur]

...If anyone just heard me scream like a little girl in excitement and slam my hand on my friend's desk, I apologize.

I can NOT freaking believe I managed to pull that off. Sorry for disappearing like that at the end, but Robin Hood kinda took precedent. I was freaking out the entire time though.

Shasta, thanks for being a jerk and making me wait until 1. You'll be getting my medical bill.

Also, sorry Inzil, for killing you.

Congrats to the innocents though! Well done guys! This was the most fun I've had with a Werewolf game in a long time. Thanks for modding, Shasta.

[Inziladun]

Well, hey. Well done, Mira! You made the second one count after all.

At least I didn't get you lynched, like in Mira's game, Sally.

Great job, Paranoia! Glad to see I was right about you, at any rate. It was a fun first game with you.

I hate that Celuien couldn't be more active, but it was good to play with a WW vet I'd never encountered before.

Lottie very nearly pulled off a win, so kudos to her and the rest of the pack! This really was a fun game.

[Paranoia]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Well, hey. Well done, Mira! You made the second one count after all.

At least I didn't get you lynched, like in Mira's game, Sally.

Great job, Paranoia! Glad to see I was right about you, at any rate. It was a fun first game with you.

I hate that Celuien couldn't be more active, but it was good to play with a WW vet I'd never encountered before.

Lottie very nearly pulled off a win, so kudos to her and the rest of the pack! This really was a fun game.

I think Not being the night one kill for once in a very long while is very refreshing; it's the entire reason I let the newbie status spread. xP

But I enjoyed it, despite me very nearly letting Lottie wolf slide through the endgame; but as I said I by and large considered Sally to be innocent, so asking to have her killed wasn't on my agenda.

Also don't trust Shasta to not make me a wolf. He totally would. He's seen me as mafia before, he knows I can handle myself. Don't trust him not to do it and to clear me on being "new" to BD werewolf. I let it slide because I'm not interested in being a night kill but that's about the only reason I did. <_<

Edit: Also yay at being the night one save. xd

[Inziladun]

Here's something else from Sally that ought to be examined.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

We were all confused. It was the first Day; we were all supposed to be confused. But this looks like he’s taking the cheap way out (which he obviously was) and I don’t approve of it. Just because you don’t have solid evidence against someone (especially on the first Day) doesn’t mean you shouldn’t vote. If all the innocents just didn’t vote on the first Day we’d have no chance of killing a wolf, because the wolves would be controlling the voting.

In a way this makes me think that he’s just a slacking innocent (again) rather than a wolf, but I think either way he’s against the village, intentionally or not.

He suspects one person -one- and has nothing else to say about anybody else. Business is understandable and I’ll certainly not fault him for that, but his no vote reasoning is just using his reputation as an excuse for laziness and trying not to leave a trail. It makes me very uneasy.


Verdict (for now): Either way, he’s not going to be helping the village, he’ll be harming us. I don’t know if it’s intentional (aka wolfism) or not, but he’s being a detriment, not an asset, and I’d much rather have him go than someone who’s actually trying to win the game. (This, of course, is subject to change with more posts, but that’s my feeling right now.)

Gasp! Hehe, a silly post from a silly player, nothing more. Unless it is?

And now I’m thinking about manly chest hair. On the female players.

++Elf-Warri.....

Anyway, this is kind of very silly thing but I can see how people would jump on it. I think it’s innocent (or at least not a real hint at evilness) thing, but I’ll want to keep an eye out because people have been getting by with similar posts recently and I’ll stand for it no longer. *sits*

Just referring to the earlier post. Not a lot.

Just helping a newbie. How sweet, eh? Strangely, however, I’m picking up hints of something more in their little helpful exchange. Maybe it’s just me?

Defends Blind, suspects Boro, votes Morsul because....because he didn’t vote. Well, understandable but Morsul doing something OOC is actually IC for Morsul, so I don’t know if I agree with this. Also, not voting Paranoia just because he (right?) agrees with you seems off to me. And if you suspect Boro more why not vote him?

This just screams awkward to me. I almost want to say that there's a hint of "guys, I know we killed our cobbler but we can make it out alive, oh, and I should reassure the village too so I look innocent and helpful" to this post.

Verdict: All in all I think I’ll have to keep an eye on Elfie, but I won’t be double-plussing any time soon, because I’m still very iffy on the whole situation. From the tone of posts I'd actually have to go with guilty right now, but I'm not sure I'm ready to condemn quite yet. We'll have to see what I think of everyone else.

What strikes me in all this is that Sally spends the first part of the post saying why Morsul's refusal to vote on Day 1 is suspicious, that whether he was innocent or guilty he was a detriment to the village.

Then, she latches onto TEW (who said he had "faint suspicious vibes" from Boro, nothing else) and starts to lay the groundwork for a case on him. She finishes by using TEW's vote for Morsul (based upon the latter's non-vote) against him, when she herself had already said Morsul made her "very uneasy", and she would personally prefer to see him go.

This seems hypocritical to me, and the basis for a case against the now known innocent TEW looks flimsy.

x/d with all since 601: Excellent! Double hunt!

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Here's something else from Sally that ought to be examined.

This seems hypocritical to me, and the basis for a case against the now known innocent TEW looks flimsy.

x/d with all since 601: Excellent! Double hunt!

Heh. I was admittedly being lazy and doing them both in one post, which did make it a bit confusing. Sorry about that. Basically I thought they were both a bit iffy and the way Elf hit on Morsul looked almost as weird to me as Morsul himself.

Make sense? Good.