WW LXXIX: Fall From Olympus

[Inziladun]

DL comes a few hours after bedtime, hence, I have to vote now.

The only two I feel comfortable voting for are Mac and Blind Guardian.
BG seems to have made it a point to poke her head in occasionally and say nothing.
Mac is suspicious enough to me pretty much any time, and it still looks like an awfully thin explanation of Boro's words that he's giving. And he sure is persistant about it, too.

I don't particularly like having to vote for either of them on Day 1; BG because she always seems to invite this sort of thing, and Mac because he and I always seem to fall into this pattern.

Of the two, I guess it's

++Blind Guardian

Yes, voting with Kath. Oh well.

x/d with all since 177. BG's last doesn't make her look any better: appears to only repeat what others have said.

[Rikae]

Nog, I think the only time you haven't suspected me (and Mac) on day one was when you were a cobbler.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Nog, I think the only time you haven't suspected me (and Mac) on day one was when you were a cobbler.

That's actually quite a sad tally... even if I think there must have been a game or two, someday, somewhere...

But I'm just voicing my mind at the time as I can't be sure I'm around the next Day. I have no wish to see either of you dead on D1; you produce such a lot into this game that we need you, whatever your role is - unless there is a clear reason to drive for lynching you (which there is not at the moment).

[satansaloser2005]

Which means I have to put up my vote without the explanation. (I have most of my thoughts typed already, but the nets aren't holding together very well so I don't want to risk it.) I'll be gone toMorrow almost all Day, so I don't want to risk not getting my vote in toDay and then getting modfired 'cause I'm out of town.

++BG

I'll explain either later tonight or (if I'm alive) in the Morning. Basically I noticed some interesting stuff that she's said which makes me think she's either a wolf or trying to save a wolf. Besides, I'm getting more or less good feelings from everyone else right now. (I'm pickin' up good vibrations?)

EDIT: Noticed as I was about to hit "submit reply" that Nienna had posted (her vote post, to be exact, so x'd since then). I'm a bit in love with my bed now, so I think I'll crash. Sorry for being so old and useless.

[Nogrod]

Too late for me now... even if in more or less American time-zone - I just need to get it back to the European one (saying that in 6am!).

++ Nerwen

Unlike Wilwa thinks, I do think her early reference to Hades was a deliberate one, willing to see it messed up by us others with all the normal banter (but being clear enough for Persephone), little did she know then we would make an issue of the hinting as she posted that so early.

And if she is a wolf, then I think we should really look at Wilwa - how agreeable and intelligent she is - and just because of that.

Also, she made those comments about Zeus' alliances trying to get forward a perception of Zeus not willing to be on the good-side when things were in doubt in the general discussion - so encouraging the other interpretation.

Also her reactions when she came back - she made a short comment kind of downplaying the "hint" and never came back to that but instead started more or less a crusade on Mac - which was probably a good idea as there could have been (there could be) some support for it. But I do think an innocent would have behaved differently - not just picking up one other to go for but tried to defend herself more, or given a few other possibilities instead of her.

Also, if she is a wolf I doubt Rikae or/and Mac is one. And that would give us one or two people we could more or less trust, at least in the first Days.


As long as the interpretation of Dionysos' role is doubtful I think we should keep him around. But let's not forget him either.

Also I do hope some people would start reading the thread and using their grey cells actively (in a form of posting the results of them working in here so that we could make our minds on them). I do hate trying it for random when there is nothing to say.

X'd with a host, again...

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Glirdy in the discussion thread

I will inform you in the narration somehow.

Okay. Needs to remember then...


X'd with Rikae & tum

[Blind Guardian]

I'M HERE! I DONT WHAT TO SAY, NOR DO I HAVE ANY CLUE OF WHATS GOING ON! WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO POST? A WHOLE BUNCH OF NONESENCE!? THAT'S WHAT GOT ME KILLED LAST TIME!! I can't win!

[Blind Guardian]

Kill me I just want to play a game and last more then one day

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

I'M HERE! I DONT WHAT TO SAY, NOR DO I HAVE ANY CLUE OF WHATS GOING ON! WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO POST? A WHOLE BUNCH OF NONESENCE!? THAT'S WHAT GOT ME KILLED LAST TIME!! I can't win!

Blind, it's actually just the same thing that got you lynched last game: you're obviously parroting other people, and forming no opinions of your own. Last game you copy-pasted someone else's suspicion-list; this time you didn't even try to hide the fact that you were just "suspecting" people because other people suspected them. I mean, you weren't even sure what I was supposed to have done, were you?

No, I'm not going to vote for you, unless I need to do so to save myself, or you do something really suspicious. At the moment you look to me more like an innocent who's made herself a target, again.

EDIT: X'd since BG at #204.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

I'M HERE! I DONT WHAT TO SAY, NOR DO I HAVE ANY CLUE OF WHATS GOING ON! WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO POST? A WHOLE BUNCH OF NONESENCE!? THAT'S WHAT GOT ME KILLED LAST TIME!! I can't win!

I'm sorry; it must be very frustrating. If you don't understand well enough to post anything but nonsense, though, and you really can't figure it out, where's the fun in that?
I don't like to see someone lynched for simply not catching on, but I can also understand why it happens. If you can't keep up you just end up as a question mark in everyone's mind, with nothing to go on either for or against you - and that's not how the game works.

Originally Posted by BG

But what else can I do? I'm just like that

Then, and don't take this the wrong way, why do you want to play WW at all? If you don't want to analyze and debate and so on, why bother? That's what it's all about.

I'm not going to vote BG because, well, it seems a little harsh at this point. The point about not participating has been made, and I don't see her as especially wolfish. I also don't see much purpose in voting for Steve: he hasn't had a chance to explain his "hint", and, if it was, he's on our side for now and we'll know when he isn't. Instead, I'm just going to do something that really should be done more often on day Ones everywhere:

++the phantom

For being the phantom.

Yeah. That felt good.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Also, she made those comments about Zeus' alliances trying to get forward a perception of Zeus not willing to be on the good-side when things were in doubt in the general discussion - so encouraging the other interpretation.

No, I mentioned it because I thought it was important. You would rather we simply looked the other way and ignored the possibility of the Lovers working against the village?

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Also her reactions when she came back - she made a short comment kind of downplaying the "hint" and never came back to that but instead started more or less a crusade on Mac - which was probably a good idea as there could have been (there could be) some support for it. But I do think an innocent would have behaved differently - not just picking up one other to go for but tried to defend herself more, or given a few other possibilities instead of her.

If I had defended myself more you'd now be calling me "defensive" right now, Nogrod. Besides, what was there to say? I tried to adapt an idiom to the setting, just as we'll say "What the Utumno?" in an M-e based game. Either you accept that or you don't. And I didn't go on a "crusade" against Mac, I pointed out some things he'd done that I thought needed explaining. Again, would you prefer I hadn't?

EDIT:X'd since Nogrod's vote-post.

[wilwarin538]

I kind of want to vote for BG, somewhat out of annoyance, I'll admit. And I'm hitting my usual Day 1 dilemma of thinking everyone looks perfectly peachy . I won't vote Eonwe, cause I *think* he might be doing something awesomely helpful. I won't vote Nerwen or Boro cause that seems like banter to me, now that I understand both references. And I don't think I'll vote Mac, because at most he makes me uneasy.

But I'm still gonna wait. I hate to vote out of frustration for someone....but I still might...

x'ed with Inzil (who seems to be thinking the same as me) and Rikae

[autume98]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Hephaistos, not Ares. In my opinion, though it's frustrating to be alone with it, he used the reference to Zeus simply to say "I am a lover". Since we only have three, that's not a bad hint.

So this post got me thinking. Could this just be a hint that he's a lover? Maybe, maybe not. Which got me thinking more how all this talk about lovers would be a perfect opportunity for someone to slip in a hint to their lover.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Mac is suspicious enough to me pretty much any time, and it still looks like an awfully thin explanation of Boro's words that he's giving. And he sure is persistant about it, too.

So now I'm not the only one who has suspicions of Mac. I really am beginning to wonder if some hints are going on. Granted it would seem to be pretty obvious that he's giving a hint to a fellow lover if that's what he were doing. Anyone have any thoughts?

Edit: x-ed with Rikae, wilwa, and Nog

[Nienna]

Zil I don't particularly like your vote for BG as your reasons could be applied to most anyone (inculding Tum who I've noticed has just done something very similar)

I, however, am going to vote for Steve as the possible Cursed. I know he is allied with us for the time being but I'd rather vote and kill him now than risk him being turned... if only for a Day it could be the difference between a Village Win and a Wolf Win. I also don't have any wolf suspects or even suspicions so I'd rather put my vote toward the Cursed pull a vote out of the air and have it turn out to be a gifted.

++ Steve

And now, good night.

Edit: x-ed with bunches.

[Blind Guardian]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

DL comes a few hours after bedtime, hence, I have to vote now.

The only two I feel comfortable voting for are Mac and Blind Guardian.
BG seems to have made it a point to poke her head in occasionally and say nothing.
Mac is suspicious enough to me pretty much any time, and it still looks like an awfully thin explanation of Boro's words that he's giving. And he sure is persistant about it, too.

I don't particularly like having to vote for either of them on Day 1; BG because she always seems to invite this sort of thing, and Mac because he and I always seem to fall into this pattern.

Of the two, I guess it's

[highlight ][B ]++Blind Guardian[/B][/highlight]

Yes, voting with Kath. Oh well.

x/d with all since 177. BG's last doesn't make her look any better: appears to only repeat what others have said.

That's it? What the heck are you thinking!? I demand a better exsplantion!