WW LXXIX: Fall From Olympus - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Folwren · 08-03-2010, 12:48 PM

Thanks a lot, Phantom. I just love it when people give grudgingly and then sneer at people they help. One feels so...appreciated.

the phantom · 08-03-2010, 01:09 PM

Heh heh heh... Sorry, but I simply must stay in character.

Folwren · 08-03-2010, 01:21 PM

I am so tempted to just say, "Jerk", like I would to any old friend of mine, but I don't know you well enough to feel that free. I'll just say "Meanie" instead.

the phantom · 08-03-2010, 01:33 PM

Oh, it's fine, you can call me a jerk. I'm totally being one.

Folwren · 08-03-2010, 02:13 PM

Nah. I told you I didn't feel comfortable enough calling you that. In my mind, I only call friends who are being mildly mean jerks, and to call someone I didn't know well that name would indicate that they were being really, really, really nasty, and I don't think you have been. So it'd be rude for me to say so.

Okay...If Nerwen is Persephone, then she's an innocent. I believe Phantom is innocent - I haven't gotten any gut feelings or indications that he is not.

I have few thoughts concerning Kath. Looking over her posts, she seems to think that Nerwen and I were somehow connected...look here in post 928:

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Folwren - Day 1 felt bad about Lottie, thinks Nerwen sensible and wilwa seems alright. Defends phantom and suspects Rikae. Not sure Foley would mention packmates at all ... which makes me think fairly well of Nerwen. Voted Eonwe as he seemed to be trying to hard to be innocent.

And then in post 931:

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Folwren - feels innocent. Could be tricksy and false. If a wolf then I think Nerwen innocent. Not sure.

Why does she attach me to Nerwen? Because I am suspicious of Nerwen?

As for Kath dropping hints for Inzil - Sally's theory on that sounds bogus to me. The cursed doesn't need hints. I think the post she is basing her thoughts off of is post #923, where she said,

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Are you kidding Inzil? I missed yesterDay due to busyness and ... ahem ... drunkenness.

But this is her response and her excuse when Inzil threw harsh accusation into her face:

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Originally Posted by Inzil

Was Kath's effort worthy of her going into Wilwa's most trusted ranks? It does seem to stick out, in that Wilwa looks to have been waiting for a reason to praise Kath, who had been about as submarine-like as one could be.

This is at the end of a very long, very noteworthy post numbered 922. You may want to look into it.

Question: Why would the wolves kill Inzil? Was he close to one of their pack member's scent and they didn't want him to find out? Or, are they trying to frame Kath?

I don't know what to think of Kath.

What do you supposed this means? Post 924:

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Originally Posted by Inzil

As my last sentence indicated, I didn't conclude that you must be a wolf. As a matter of fact, looking over things myself the last half hour or so has given me another possibility about you.

As for Sally...well, my opinion is that if Kath is innocent, Sally's a wolf, but if Kath is guilty, Sally is probably innocent. I'm more inclined to doubt Sally than Kath. Why? Gosh...... She just seems flippant and careless, accusing people right and left with little basis. I don't like it.

I don't know what to think of Mira, Nienna, Lalaith, and Shasta just now. I'll have to do more reading.

-- Foley

Shastanis Althreduin · 08-03-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Oh, it's fine, you can call me a jerk. I'm totally being one.

He is, and he's good at it.

Meanwhile, I'm back and currently reading. I'm still in shock that Zeus chose to take out Apollo yesterDay - how is that aiding his side, again? Seems very unsporting and unfair, but there's no use crying over spilled milk, I suppose. Sally is being overly cryptic until my head is spinning, and I don't know why Fowlren would just blurt out what he just blurted out (even though phantom did basically the same thing). In any case, I'm going to go back and look at Lalaith, who is the only person that I've consistently forgotten was playing.

Kath · 08-03-2010, 02:26 PM

Um ... wasn't hinting guys. You can ask Glirdy. I apologised to him for missing the Day because I went out and got plastered Friday evening, came home and passed out.

Folwren, we're assuming Hestia chose a Seer because in the narration it states that 'her eyes are opened and she saw things she'd never seen before' or something along those lines. Eyes and see/saw pretty much = Seer.

Nerwen makes an interesting point about sally. She has been being teasing enough to potentially be our errant Zeus.

If phantom is going to sulk instead of helping then let's just lynch him anyway.

If Foley's a wolf she's played a blinder and probably deserves the win! If Mira is she does not.

To answer Folwren's last post:
I don't think you and Nerwen are connected. That's actually what I was trying to say. I was saying that you had mentioned Lottie (turned out to be innocent), wilwa (turned out to be evil) and Nerwen - who we don't yet know about. I was saying that if you were a wolf I would doubt you'd mention a packmate, ergo Nerwen is probably not wolvish if you are. Sorry, bit convoluted, and completely meaningless if you're not a wolf anyway.

Lalaith · 08-03-2010, 02:29 PM

I´ve been trying to do an analysis of stuff that happened since I was gone, but keep getting RL interruptions. I won´t be able to get back on for a couple of hours so I´ll post what I´ve got so far. Apologies again for being bitty – this is what I´ve got as far as middle of page 24.

Inzil´s point about Rikae´s defence of Nienna was interesting, coupled with Nienna´s own analysis of Rikae, where she found Rikae consistent and logical (something I found odd at the time) But would one wolf focus on another for analysis? A very bold approach – I´ve never played with Nienna before I don´t think...is that her style? Also, her hassling of Sally yesterday – what was all that about? Boredom? Distraction? Diversion?
Also – Inzil pointed to wilwa´s approval of a rather woolly post of Kath´s.

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Wilwa looks to have been waiting for a reason to praise Kath, who had been about as submarine-like as one could be.

Sally – her list of guilty/innocents is very similar to mine, and her schemes and plans feel like those of an enthusiastic innocent. But I don´t think I ever have played with a Sally-wolf so I don´t know what to expect from one.
Nerwen´s analysis of wilwa was helpful and incisive enough for me to feel inclined to trust her. Also her annoyance with surfacing submarines feels like that of an innocent.
More later tonight....

Folwren · 08-03-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kath

Um ... wasn't hinting guys. You can ask Glirdy. I apologised to him for missing the Day because I went out and got plastered Friday evening, came home and passed out.

Ha, see! I told 'e so!

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Folwren, we're assuming Hestia chose a Seer because in the narration it states that 'her eyes are opened and she saw things she'd never seen before' or something along those lines. Eyes and see/saw pretty much = Seer.

Gotcha! I totally missed that.

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Nerwen makes an interesting point about sally. She has been being teasing enough to potentially be our errant Zeus.

Or an errant wolf.

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If phantom is going to sulk instead of helping then let's just lynch him anyway.

No, because sulky or not, so long as he's not a wolf, he's still valuable.

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If Foley's a wolf she's played a blinder and probably deserves the win! If Mira is she does not.

Ah, thank you, that's sweet. But I'm not a wolf, so don't worry about it.

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I don't think you and Nerwen are connected. That's actually what I was trying to say. I was saying that you had mentioned Lottie (turned out to be innocent), wilwa (turned out to be evil) and Nerwen - who we don't yet know about. I was saying that if you were a wolf I would doubt you'd mention a packmate, ergo Nerwen is probably not wolvish if you are. Sorry, bit convoluted, and completely meaningless if you're not a wolf anyway.

Oh, I think I see. Well, alright.

Edit: x-posted with Lalaith

the phantom · 08-03-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kath

I went out and got plastered Friday evening, came home and passed out.

Before you passed out you, erm, sent me some rather interesting photos. May want to check your sent messages. But don't worry, I won't forward them to anyone else. Unless of course they're willing to hand me a bit of cash.

Folwren · 08-03-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Before you passed out you, erm, sent me some rather interesting photos. May want to check your sent messages. But don't worry, I won't forward them to anyone else. Unless of course they're willing to hand me a bit of cash.

....if that is true, Phantom, this is the wrong place to say it.

If it is false, that was completely unappropriate and I disapprove.

08-03-2010, 12:48 PM	#1
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Thanks a lot, Phantom. I just love it when people give grudgingly and then sneer at people they help. One feels so...appreciated. __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

08-03-2010, 01:09 PM	#2
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Heh heh heh... Sorry, but I simply must stay in character. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

08-03-2010, 01:21 PM	#3
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	I am so tempted to just say, "Jerk", like I would to any old friend of mine, but I don't know you well enough to feel that free. I'll just say "Meanie" instead. __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

08-03-2010, 01:33 PM	#4
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Oh, it's fine, you can call me a jerk. I'm totally being one. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

08-03-2010, 02:26 PM	#7
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Um ... wasn't hinting guys. You can ask Glirdy. I apologised to him for missing the Day because I went out and got plastered Friday evening, came home and passed out. Folwren, we're assuming Hestia chose a Seer because in the narration it states that 'her eyes are opened and she saw things she'd never seen before' or something along those lines. Eyes and see/saw pretty much = Seer. Nerwen makes an interesting point about sally. She has been being teasing enough to potentially be our errant Zeus. If phantom is going to sulk instead of helping then let's just lynch him anyway. If Foley's a wolf she's played a blinder and probably deserves the win! If Mira is she does not. To answer Folwren's last post: I don't think you and Nerwen are connected. That's actually what I was trying to say. I was saying that you had mentioned Lottie (turned out to be innocent), wilwa (turned out to be evil) and Nerwen - who we don't yet know about. I was saying that if you were a wolf I would doubt you'd mention a packmate, ergo Nerwen is probably not wolvish if you are. Sorry, bit convoluted, and completely meaningless if you're not a wolf anyway. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”