WW LXXIX: Fall From Olympus

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Kath

Foley! Of course it's not true. What do you think of me woman?

She thinks either that you drink too much or that you can't hold your beer very well.

Originally Posted by Folwren

unappropriate and I disapprove

But why? I never said what the photos were of. Since I guess I need to clarify, they were nearly all of the lense cap. You can understand then why Kath would be so embarrassed, as these pictures would provide further proof of her utter lack of common sense. And the pics that weren't of the cap, well- they were of various city scenes, but her choices in perspective and lighting and her post-pic adjustments to the exposure and the like showed no eye for artistry whatsoever. So, perhaps now you can better understand why she doesn't wish for these photos to be released?

[Folwren]

Good grief.

Who do YOU suspect is a wolf, Phantom? What do you think, Kath?

[Kath]

Haha ignoring is a good plan, Foley!

Who do I think is a wolf? Maybe Lalaith. The wolves who have been found out (by lynch or clever Gifteds) have been fairly loudmouthed. I think it's possible we have a quiet wolf in the pack too.

I'm thinking not Mira. She's just TOO uninvolved. As a wolf I feel she'd make some effort.

Shasta is a possibility. He's been quiet but is reasserting himself now. Could be a wolf getting more involved as his packmates go down. Could be an innocent with more time on his hands now.

Nienna I'm not sure about. She hasn't really ... made an impression.

sally could be a wolf. I'm more tempted to think of her as a Cursed who wants to be turned or our errant Zeus though.

Foley could be a newbie wolf. Easy to play the confused innocent card if a lot actually is new to you. That said, I didn't think she'd mention packmates in a post, and she did mention wilwa.

Might have a look at some voting records.

[Folwren]

I actually have been thinking at least one of our remaining wolves is one of the quiet ones. It makes me cranky, because I don't like lynching people because they're quiet. On the other hand, they're not adding anything to the game, and it is very late in the game so they should have participated at least some by now, and if they ARE a wolf, they will continue to slide under the radar.

Edit: X-posted with Nienna.

[Folwren]

I'm off for a while. I am not sure when I'll be back.

Edit: X-posted with Phantom. Meanie.

[Kath]

Kath: BG; Nog; (no vote); Rikae

Foley: Eonwe; (no vote); Lottie; Rikae

Nienna: Eonwe; Eonwe; Tum (this was after wilwa AND Rikae and put Tum ahead of Lottie - veeery bold if a wolf);

Nerwen: Nog; Eonwe (clinched the lynch); Nog (clinched the lynch); Rikae

Lalaith: Boro; Eonwe; Lottie (clinched it); Rikae

Shasta: Eonwe; Nog; (no vote); Rikae

Mira: BG (late, really pushing the bandwagon - not that dangerous for a wolf Day 1 given the reasons behind this lynch); (no vote); phantom; Rikae

phantom: Eonwe; Eonwe; Nog; sally

sally: BG; (no vote); Nog; Folwren

*sigh* And as I finish this I realise Nienna has done one. But anyway from that I guess Nerwen and Lalaith appear most wolvish. But it depends on playing style I think. Nerwen might be bold enough to live with that kind of voting record and play it off as 'would I really do that as a wolf?'. But then we have different thoughts on her role. Lalaith probably not, but might be inexperienced enough as a wolf to simply have the final vote. Anyone know? Nienna voting after the two known wolves makes her look more innocent.

Hmm maybe I'm wrong about Mira. There was a sudden burst of energy on Day 3. No trigger. No wolves had died.

So, Lalaith maybe for me toDay.

[Kath]

Bedtime for me, so yeah:

++LALAITH

[satansaloser2005]

Seriously, have you people even READ my posts?

I'm going to go cry in a corner until someone of my intelligence comes along. And it isn't looking like I'll be out anytime soon.

[the phantom]

If only your requirement had been someone beyond your intelligence...

And instead of complaining about people not reading your posts, why don't you just be more plain and obvious?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the phantom

If only your requirement had been someone beyond your intelligence...

And instead of complaining about people not reading your posts, why don't you just be more plain and obvious?

God is busy laughing at your feeble attempt to get me to come out. (That's not what she said.)


Glirdaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn! *whines*

I have a funny joke, but I don't think I can post it. Glirdamod might get cross with me.

[the phantom]

I'm getting sick of your hinting. Let's just get it out there...

You're saying that you are Hestia, and that when you as the Mythomaniac selected Tum on Night 2, not only did you inherit her gift (Seership), but you also inherited her dreams. I would've outed you long before, but I thought it'd be unsporting. But now, I'm thinking you deserve it.

[Nienna]

I'm around now. Sorry I've been gone with work and such. I'll be around now until I decide it's bedtime... which will most likely be a few hours before deadline.

Phantom, Phantom, Phantom... what are you up to? I don't trust you at all... Nerwen as Persephone? Interesting theory but I don't know as it is conclusive. So if Nerwen is Persephone who is Hades? That is the more important question in my opinion.

Voting:

Kath --> BG(1/7), Nog (2/5), No Vote, Rikae
Mira --> BG (5/7), No Vote, Phantom, Rikae
Zil --> BG (2/7), Steve (5/8), Tum (1/4), Rikae
Nienna --> Steve (2/5), Steve (4/8), Tum (4/4), Rikae
Nerwen --> Nog, Steve (8/8), Nog (5/5), Rikae
Folwren --> Steve (1/5), No Vote, Lottie (4/4), Rikae
Lalaith --> Boro, Steve (1/8), Lottie (1/4), Rikae
Shasta --> Steve (3/5), Nog (1/5), No Vote, Rikae
Phantom --> No Vote, Steve (6/8), Nog (4/5), Sally
Sally --> BG (3/7), No Vote, Nog (2/5), Foley

Edit: x-ed

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Who do YOU suspect is a wolf, Phantom?

I don't think so.

I laid the bread-crumbs to Persephone's door. You have to find the wolf. My part is done (other than my general noise-making of course).

[satansaloser2005]

Also, this game bores me. Let me break down the village for you.

Kath: quiet
Mira: quiet
Nienna: quiet
Nerwen: Nerwen
Folwren: evil
Lalaith: quiet
Shasta: quiet
Phantom: ....
Sally: shiny

Notice how there's a lot of one word? I don't like it.

[Nienna]

I'm here. Being LOUD! ... not that I have anything particularly helpful to contribute.

How about a list?

Definitely Innocent:
Nienna

Most probably innocent and won't be voting:
Sally
Meeper

Confusing/quiet and won't be voting:
Kath
Foley
Shasta

Could Vote:
Nerwen
Lalaith
Phantom

[satansaloser2005]

Good girl. *pats head, gives cookie*


My own list then. Practice what you preach and all that.


Would love to vote....
Foley
Kath

Would vote if I didn't think it might end poorly
Glirdan

Considering the alignment of....
Shasta
Mira
Lal
Nienna

Probably innocent (if a bit insane)
Nerwen
Phantom

Pure genius
Sally


EDIT: x'd with Lal

[Lalaith]

Notice how there's a lot of one word? I don't like it.

I know. Sorry, I have been quiet for the last couple of days for RL reasons...and indeed, the whole village has, as Sally pointed out, been quiet. Remarkably little reading to catch up on.
Kath, I have no problem with you voting for me, all fair´s in love and werewolf, after all, but I don´t really understand your analysis. What do you mean I clinched the lynch for Lottie? I was the second to vote for her after Nogs did. She wasn´t lynched, she was killed by wolves that Night, Nogs was the one who was lynched.
(Just noticed that Nienna's vote tally is therefore also inaccurate as she puts me first of 4 to vote for Lottie that day)
The Nerwen = Persephone theory is interesting and plausible enough but we need to lynch wolves now...I really don´t think Nerwen is a wolf.
I too picked up on the drinking comment and wondered if Kath were the cursed. Her protests of innocence did seem quite sincere though. Hmmm.
Mira - well by her own admission she´s not been paying the game full attention, but I´ve known non-committal wolves before this. I don´t think it absolves her from attention or suspicion.
Sally - seems upset and noisy. Would a wolf be attracting attention to herself like this?
Phantom is still full of beans, and being inscrutable. Why?
Nienna - the defence by Rikae on day one, when she was put up for a lynching candidate, is definitely interesting.
Folwren - she seems nice and a bit confused about a lot of things. That of course doesn´t mean she can´t be a wolf.
Shasta - see Mira.
I don´t think I´ll be voting for Sally or Nerwen today. That´s as far as I´ve got in my decision-making.

[Nienna]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

(Just noticed that Nienna's vote tally is therefore also inaccurate as she puts me first of 4 to vote for Lottie that day)

I apologize... you are correct and you were the second to give Lottie a vote. This doesn't make you any less suspicious in my mind though. A second vote is almost worst than a first. A first is risky to whomever gives it but a second?... not risky at all... the person already has support to be lynched and you are just helping it along.

[satansaloser2005]

Needless to say, Foley, I....well, I can't, actually.


ETA: How ridiculous can I be here exactly? As long as I don't say "I am *censored*" I'm technically following the rules.

[Folwren]

Sorry for the outburst. I just lost my temper. I have never taken being called stupid very well.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Sorry for the outburst. I just lost my temper. I have never taken being called stupid very well.

Hey, I never said you were stupid. I said people were stupid, evil, both, or hasn't been reading the thread. (Read, reading the thread closely enough.)

Incidentally, all the "everyone else is stupid" talk? Biggest. Hint. Ever. (Besides the Risk and pancakes anyway.)

[Lalaith]

A second vote is almost worst than a first.

Hmm...what about your second vote for Steve on Day 2 then?

There´s little to go on except banter at the moment. Sally, my sweet, what do you want us to do with your hints?

I want to reach a decision and go to bed but all I can come up with is a theory that Nienna and Kath are wolves together as they both seem to be trying to frame me with dodgy evidence. However, this is possibly just late-night paranoia on my part and coincidental carelessness on theirs.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

There´s little to go on except banter at the moment. Sally, my sweet, what do you want us to do with your hints?

Enjoy the sweetness that is someone besides Peter Jackson controlling a subtlety mace. (Enjoy it while you can. I could only afford to rent it for a week.)

As for your suspects, I would be perfectly happy with a Kath lynch. What do you say?

[Lalaith]

What do you say?

I do have an aesthetic gaming issue with voting for someone who votes for me. It looks tacky.

However, on other fronts it is tempting. Kath´s analysis is oddly careless by her standards (and not just about me). Her increased participation co-incides with being two wolves down, which could be a stepping-into-the-breach operation. If she´s not a wolf I think she could (despite her protests to the contrary) be the cursed, so lynching her before the wolves turn her would be a pre-emptive strike.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

I do have an aesthetic gaming issue with voting for someone who votes for me. It looks tacky.

However, on other fronts it is tempting. Kath´s analysis is oddly careless by her standards (and not just about me). Her increased participation co-incides with being two wolves down, which could be a stepping-into-the-breach operation. If she´s not a wolf I think she could (despite her protests to the contrary) be the cursed, so lynching her before the wolves turn her would be a pre-emptive strike.

Ahhhh, right you are, and fair enough.

However, the rest of this post also is fair. If you have a wolf, you lynch them, whether it looks opportunistic or not. (If that makes sense.) Basically you can't let the wolves get away just because voting for them is like wearing socks with sandals.


Also, what are your thoughts on Foley? And where the heck is Phantom?