WW LXXX: It's About Time!

[Nerwen]

To clarify my last comment:

Agan, I quite agree that getting a Fenris wolf completely at random is not that tall an order in such a small village, and when the votes were so spread out. (It took only three votes to lynch EW.) However, it's not easy for the wolves to be so objective– I'd think the voters behind an apparently random Fenrissing would be more likely to get their attention.

EDIT:X'd with Agan.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Agan

If you have to vote relatively early and you have lots of options, would you really put your fellow under the spotlight by voting him? I don't think so.

Well, you may not think so, but wolves have voted their fellows often enough in the past, and in fact the first vote is arguably the "safest".

Again, I don't particularly suspect Skip– I just don't get your reasoning.

Originally Posted by Agan

In my opinion, it would be slightly paranoid of the wolves to presume EW died because of being seer-dreamed.

I agree– but as I said, wolves are often exactly that.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

However, it's not easy for the wolves to be so objective– I'd think the voters behind an apparently random Fenrissing would be more likely to get their attention.

Yes I understand what you mean and am equally surprised none of the EW voters died. I still think the wolves don't get paranoid & think EW was dreamed of so easily, though... But even so, why didn't someone who voted for him die? After all, being part of a random bandwagon against a wolf on day 1 should make them look much more innocent. Even if there was a wolf on the bandwagon, there are three innocents (or two, if the wolves decided to be really mean), and they could easily have gone after one of them. Or were they so afraid of the ranger? Or did they just want to confuse us? Or whatever.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, you may not think so, but wolves have voted their fellows often enough in the past, and in fact the first vote is arguably the "safest".

That's true, but everybody knows quiet players stand a higher risk of getting lynched on day 1, so why make it worse by voting your fellow? In this small a game, even one vote can make a difference.

I'm not saying skip is innocent, I just think that voting for EW makes him look more so - as well as everybody else who did that.

I have to leave now, will be back in a few hours.

[A Little Green]

I'm going to keep an eye on our European males (Pitch, skip, Eomer, and yes I think you can count Greenie among them ).

I'm your man.

Originally Posted by Sally

Fea is getting a lot of unhealthy attention. Nothing unusual there, but the bandwagon (because that's what it is!) forming against her is fishy. Regardless of Fea's role, I don't like to see this kind of rather simple voting, especially toDay.

Question 1: are two votes a bandwagon? Question 2: Why "especially toDay"? Isn't Day 1 the Day when simple voting is the most pardonable due to lack of substance? For myself, I find "simple" votes much more worrisome later on when there would actually be more to build on.

Originally Posted by Fea

asks 'she for whom the moon doth shine' what she thinks of Eomer's vote (for Greenie); as a side note, I'm not at all certain who this question was directed to, and I've been wondering if he meant me

I thought he was talking about Nerwen, but I could be wrong..

Originally Posted by Fea

Something I think I forgot to add to that last post is what I actually think...

Which is that I'm assuming Shasta was killed to be 'trail-less', since all arguments for or against end up being, "Yeah, it's obvious it was totally this person! (Or that one)."

I would be inclined to agree. He didn't look seerish at all, and if the wolves wanted to frame someone with their kill they would probably have picked someone with more pronounced opinions.

Originally Posted by Agan

If you have to vote relatively early and you have lots of options, would you really put your fellow under the spotlight by voting him? I don't think so. Of course it's possible, but it's unlikely enough to make me feel better about skip not being a wolf.

I'm not sure. Making a random-ish Day 1 vote on a fellow who has not been suspected at all during the Day is relatively safe (or at least is if you forget to consider the size of the village). I'm not convinced though that a skipwolf would do it, so I don't really know.

Originally Posted by Eomer

"One of those reasons has got to be 'who but a wolf could fit thirty little green grapes in between their jaws!', right? "


What does this mean? Anything?

I believe he was referring to something he did in RL this summer when we met him, so I'd put it down as banter.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Light defence of Greenie.

Seems to trust... Nerwen?... in asking what she (?) thinks of my vote for Green. I think he was referring to Nerwen but could be wrong.

Suspects Pitch for Pitch's vote for Fea.

Suspects Sally, I think, for reasons totally unclear to me. Post #59



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Not sure why the wolves picked Shasta. On Day One there's not usually a direct link between their kill and the Seer-Fear (hey, that rhymes!) i.e. wolf dinner was pointing to a wolf.

In this case the slaying of Shasta could point to Pitch or Sally (not sure about this - maybe someone who knows Shasta and Sally better can advise here?), but reading through the thread it looks like Shasta only suspected Pitch after Pitch's vote. So he didn't 'have it in for him' so to speak.

I did, though, get the feeling Shasta was talking in riddles. I will try to get some examples now.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

"One of those reasons has got to be 'who but a wolf could fit thirty little green grapes in between their jaws!', right? "


What does this mean? Anything?

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"She for whom the moon doth shine, what dost thou think of Eomer's vote?"

Meaningful? Or just an in-joke that no-one else can understand?




Well, that was it. Probably nothing; but it's possible the wolves took these weird phrases for gifted hints.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I got nothing on this one. As I already said (yes, Aganzir) I was convinced he was innocent. No reasoning, just a hunch. Saw a lot of people jumping on him and couldn't understand why. His vote for Fea, if you look at the post again, with its almost total lack of content, looks like a rushed post. His lack of participation, as a whole, adds credence to that idea.

To borrow one of Shasta's other sayings: "very fishy". Looks to me like there's something going on with those EW voters.