WW LXXX: It's About Time!

[Pitchwife]

And what makes you so sure skip didn't dream sally? Just because he didn't suspect her yesterDay? It might have been a good idea to check somebody he didn't suspect, just in case - I've done it myself as the seer, to make sure I wasn't overlooking something.
There's something going on between the two of you...

EDIT: x-ed with Agan; this is addressed to Lottie.

[Aganzir]

Once again: we have no way of knowing if skip suspected sally or not. Maybe not at the end of the day, but he had a lot of time to think of whom to dream of. If I was a wolf and thought somebody was a wolf, I'd totally try to buddy up with them before killing them. If I was the seer and saw somebody was trying to buddy up with me, I'd get suspicious.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Agan

She never lynches the one she thinks is her cobbler. She rather fabricates cases against innocents.

But as I said above, if you're a wolf we don't know what you really thought.

Originally Posted by Agan

Now I'm just trying to remember how much I've told you about what I'm like as a wolf

Same here.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

But as I said above, if you're a wolf we don't know what you really thought.

Completely regardless of my role, I thought skip looked mighty cobblerish.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I'm far from being convinced of his innocence, either, but I don't think that's a very good argument, given that it was yourself who found Eomer's comparison of your playing style to that of gifted!Lottie's suspicious...

Even if that's unlikely, I think he can have dreamed sally as well, and I really don't like your insistence that it's not the case. It's simply too late to discount the possibility that somebody was not dreamed just because she was being friendly to the seer at the end of the day. Period.
At the moment I think I could vote for Lottie because she's being darn fishy... but then again, her earlier behaviour & the part she played in EW & Eomer's lynches speak in her favour... I wonder if she's the cobbler (although I had probably better stop cobbler hunting for now and concentrate on finding the wolf). Argh this is confusing. Sally is my second option, and then Pitch, although I feel a lot better about him than the other two.

Could also be the cobbler doing a fake reveal, assuming she actually thought Eomer was innocent.

1. Eomer compared my behavior to Gifted!me. I'm comparing Pitchie's behavior to ordo!him and evil!him. Not gifted!him.

2. You admit it's unlikely Sally was dreamed, but then say that you suspect her more than the person who is likely to be evil? I'm sorry, but I can see no innocent reason for this. And I'm not basing my trust of Sally purely on Skip's probably not dreaming her - she's done nothing that makes her look evil all game! If she's evil, we'd have seen something by now other than a argument that, boiled down, says "she's playing, so she could potentially be evil! It's not likely, but because of the fact that she exists, I'm going to vote her!" And I'm sorry if that's a bit too harsh, but that's your only argument!

3. Yeah, only she was trying to get Eomer lynched.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

And what makes you so sure skip didn't dream sally? Just because he didn't suspect her yesterDay? It might have been a good idea to check somebody he didn't suspect, just in case - I've done it myself as the seer, to make sure I wasn't overlooking something.

So've I. Remember how I got you killed? Good times...but it wasn't at end game. At end game, you dream your suspects, not one of the most innocent looking people playing.

There's something going on between the two of you...

And it reminds me a whole lot of my very first game. Nog's Ranger game...Epic Alliance of Good People...ah, such fun times.

EDIT: Just realized that I was confused about point 3. Scratch that; I didn't read the sentance properly. Sorry!

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Loslote

1. Eomer compared my behavior to Gifted!me. I'm comparing Pitchie's behavior to ordo!him and evil!him. Not gifted!him.

You thought Eomer looked suspicious because he was saying you behaved differently from what he remembered. He wasn't actually accusing you, he was just pointing it out. How is it so different from Pitch behaving differently from what you'd expect?

2. You admit it's unlikely Sally was dreamed, but then say that you suspect her more than the person who is likely to be evil?

More than the person who's likely to be evil? Are you talking about Pitch or yourself now? I suspect sally because I think she's suspicious! Read back to my posts, you'll see I've had doubts about her since day 2 (ie. since her reaction to my random vote). I don't think it's really my fault that your and her interaction with Eomer is far more suspicious than Pitch's.

Gah now I'm getting too single-minded again, I don't intend to ignore Pitch just because I find you more suspicious...

I'm sorry, but I can see no innocent reason for this.

And what's the wolfish reason that you can see?

she's done nothing that makes her look evil all game! --- And I'm sorry if that's a bit too harsh, but that's your only argument!

Feel free to go through my posts and see what I've said of sally. Either it's our difference in views or you're trying to save her for a reason of her own, but I think her behaviour has been rather suspicious.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

More than the person who's likely to be evil? Are you talking about Pitch or yourself now? I suspect sally because I think she's suspicious! Read back to my posts, you'll see I've had doubts about her since day 2 (ie. since her reaction to my random vote). I don't think it's really my fault that your and her interaction with Eomer is far more suspicious than Pitch's.

Either one - I admit, I was likely to be dreamed last Night. I know I wasn't, because the last wolf was, but no one else knows that, so yeah, I'm technically more likely to be evil than Sally.

And what's the wolfish reason that you can see?

You can't go after Pitchie because you think he's the wolf (assuming you're the cobbler) and you don't think lynching me is feasible, for whatever reason.

Feel free to go through my posts and see what I've said of sally. Either it's our difference in views or you're trying to save her for a reason of her own, but I think her behaviour has been rather suspicious.

Okay. It's our difference in views - I've seen nothing of hers that looks suspicious. But may I point out that you've suspected her ever since she started suspecting you?

EDIT: xed with Sallycake

[Pitchwife]

It's not getting any earlier here, and I've got to get up early in the morning, so - voting time.

With my luck, I'm probably going to botch this, but in the end, I don't think Wolfanzir would have defended Eowolf like she did. She could still be the cobbler, or maybe even a stubborn innocent gone astray.

On the other hand, there are strong signs for a conspiracy of some kind between sally and Lottie (pre-conviction of Eomer's guilt without a solid reason, and Lottie's baseless conviction that sally can't have been dreamed last Night). Come to think of it, maybe it started even with that 'genius-we-can-trust' hint early on Day 1.
I've no idea which is which, but my gut says sally=wolf and Lottie=cobbler.

Therefore,
++sally

Á vala Manwë. Good night.

[satansaloser2005]

WHAT THE FRELLING FRELL?!?!




ETA: Erm, sorry, that wasn't actually meant to be in all caps. Still, ....the frell?

[satansaloser2005]

If Skip dreamed me, he dreamed me as innocent. Did no one SEE the post I quoted earlier toDay? I'm just sayin'. He thought the wolves were among Agan, Lottie, and possibly Pitch. That tells me that he did NOT dream me or Nerwen, at least as guilty.



So, Pitch, who's the cobbler, you or Agan? I just, you know, need to know who would be the more effective vote choice at this juncture. If you're honest we may even let you live! (Unless you're the wolf, of course, and then no, sorry.)

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

If Skip dreamed me, he dreamed me as innocent. Did no one SEE the post I quoted earlier toDay? I'm just sayin'. He thought the wolves were among Agan, Lottie, and possibly Pitch. That tells me that he did NOT dream me or Nerwen, at least as guilty.



So, Pitch, who's the cobbler, you or Agan? I just, you know, need to know who would be the more effective vote choice at this juncture. If you're honest we may even let you live! (Unless you're the wolf, of course, and then no, sorry.)

I'm thinking Agan is probably the cobbler, and Pitchie the wolf, simply because Wolfazir wouldn't have defended Eomer, but cobbler!Agan might well have.

Also, I may disappear at any moment, but I will be back before DL if this happens.

[satansaloser2005]

I'm not trusting anyone at this point in the continuum.


I say we lynch Agan toDay. She's 110% evil and I don't think there's a soul who can't see that. Pitchie's blindly following her suspicion of me for whatever unfounded reasons, which makes me think he's evil too.

HOWEVER....

Agan is a darn tricksy wolf. She would TOTALLY bus her packmates, especially if that was part of the plan. I'm almost sure she picked up on Skip, which explains her case against him yesterDay, etc., and she's gone after me heavily ever since I questioned her initial suspicions of me and called them for what they were, an excuse not to vote her partner. All in all, there's not a non-furry spot on her body.


However, part two....

I'm not voting and letting things go haywire. If Agan's not lynched toDay, I'm still going to make sure that I'm happy with whoever IS toDay's kill. Thus, I'll be holding my vote until closer to DL. Nerwen, you around yet, lovely?

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

If Skip dreamed me, he dreamed me as innocent. Did no one SEE the post I quoted earlier toDay? I'm just sayin'. He thought the wolves were among Agan, Lottie, and possibly Pitch. That tells me that he did NOT dream me or Nerwen, at least as guilty.

And didn't you see my post? There were things that pointed strongly to his having dreamed of somebody, but nothing whatsoever that pointed to you. If he dreamed you, it was last night and you're the wolf. There's no time he could have dreamed of you if he dreamed of the people I think he did (and there's evidence for that, just read his posts). The fact that he didn't consider voting for you tells us nothing at all about your role, I'm sorry to inform you.

Originally Posted by Loslote

I'm thinking Agan is probably the cobbler, and Pitchie the wolf, simply because Wolfazir wouldn't have defended Eomer, but cobbler!Agan might well have.

In all seriousness, I'm an ordo. And for those of you who didn't already know/guess it, lynching me means that we lose tomorrow. Simple as that.

Also, when did I defend Eomer? Not accusing somebody isn't the same as defending him. Even though he turned out to be a wolf, I still think it wasn't the best of arguments to say either he or Greenie had to be a wolf.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Come to think of it, maybe it started even with that 'genius-we-can-trust' hint early on Day 1.
I've no idea which is which, but my gut says sally=wolf and Lottie=cobbler.

Aw, that would've been an awesome hint! But no. I get what you're thinking if you're innocent, but see, I'm not the cobbler, and I'm not the wolf, and I don't think Sally's either one, either. But kudos for being clever!

EDIT: xed with Sallycake

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Pitchie

With my luck, I'm probably going to botch this

Yup, pretty much. Isn't that unfortunate? Or is it for you? o_O

Originally Posted by Pitchie

I don't think Wolfanzir would have defended Eowolf like she did. She could still be the cobbler, or maybe even a stubborn innocent gone astray.

Ah, but she could, and she would. And that's not even relevant, as it wasn't even a defense. You're saying that Agan isn't a wolf based on something she didn't even do. She ws hard after our seer, but that's a completely clump of fur than defendin Eomer, which she never really did. So....yeah. Bz-chicken-wah?

Originally Posted by Pitchie

On the other hand, there are strong signs for a conspiracy of some kind between sally and Lottie (pre-conviction of Eomer's guilt without a solid reason, and Lottie's baseless conviction that sally can't have been dreamed last Night). Come to think of it, maybe it started even with that 'genius-we-can-trust' hint early on Day 1.
I've no idea which is which, but my gut says sally=wolf and Lottie=cobbler.

Strong signs, eh? Give me one. One bloody sign. There aren't any? Just checking.

Also, the genius thing has been explained; it was a joke, and I said so Days ago. You're just bringing it up again (and out of context too) to twist me into suspicion.

Originally Posted by Pitchie

Therefore,
[h]++sally[/h]

Again. ....the frell?

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Strong signs, eh? Give me one. One bloody sign. There aren't any? Just checking.

There are signs! See, we both tried to get Eowolf killed, which clearly means we're conspring together. Plus, neither of us suspects you, which clearly all the *innocent* people are doing. Finally, both of us are arguing against an inherently baseless Sally!bandwagon! Gasp! Strong signs, indeed! I'm evil! I didn't know! [/sarcasm]

Really, though, I'd be okay with either an Agan lynch or a Pitchie lynch, although I'd prefer a Pitchie lynch. I think Agan's the cobbler, but the innocents have to put up a united front, so...yeah.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Lottie

There are signs! See, we both tried to get Eowolf killed, which clearly means we're conspring together. Plus, neither of us suspects you, which clearly all the *innocent* people are doing. Finally, both of us are arguing against an inherently baseless Sally!bandwagon! Gasp! Strong signs, indeed! I'm evil! I didn't know! [/sarcasm]

Frelling frell. I can't rep you again, but I would if I could. *hugs her Lottiepop* You just made Sally feel better after a rubbish day. You's my buddy.

Anyway, I'm fine with any lynch but me, to be honest. I say we lynch Agan toDay, both because my blood pressure can't take her anymore (in the game, in the game!!!!!!) and because she's DEFINITELY got something up her sleeve. Maybe Pitchie's just stupid. *snorts* Riiiight. Like that'd ever happen. He's clearly evil.

Aaaand I'm back to square one again.

[Nerwen]

Here and reading.