Game Thread: WW LXXXVI - The Halls of Mandos

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Shasta

Oh, yes, and Fea is high on Nog's suspected list.

Ha ha ha!

Oooh Ooh!! I just got to the place in the thread where there are Lommy votes! I'm excited!

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

And yeah, I know BG is nothing now, but she clearly was before, at least by my reckoning.

Yes but we can't make much of it. The only person who talked about her was Mith who suggested we lynch her because she'd be modfired anyway. If she would've been a wolf, Mith looks better - especially in a game where the roles aren't revealed.

Originally Posted by the phantom

Oooh Ooh!! I just got to the place in the thread where there are Lommy votes! I'm excited!

Phantom, sometimes I am very fond of you.

[Aganzir]

I have been thinking about it, and the easiest way I could come up with is the one I mentioned briefly. Now I'd just like to hear opinions...

Basically, if the last player lynched (in case of a multiple lynch, the 1st to receive the highest number of votes) was not a wolf, we'll give the double vote to the player first on the player list, or if we don't trust her for one reason or another, the 2nd/3rd/etc. If the lynched player was a wolf, the last (or the 2nd/3rd/etc last) player gets the double vote the following day. If we do this, we should probably agree to stop when there's a set number of players left, say 6, because then the votes may have a much bigger influence.

We should probably just exclude possible seer information. If the seer reveals here, she can tell her dreams (except the last) to the village; if she dies before revealing, we have no way of letting the village know she was the seer.

I am aware people might disagree with me on the idea, saying they'd rather double the most innocent-looking player's vote, but I think it all comes down to how much we want to help the village. We can keep playing like we always have, vote for the person we like and leave the village wondering about why we chose her, or we can find a way to give them information.

The problems I can see with this are the baddies messing around, or the wolves basing their kills on who might get more votes. There are probably more but I'm not going to start thinking it through at this hour. Now the question is, do you think that (or something similar) is workable or is it too complicated/risky?

[Boromir88]

I might as well not even try anymore, since obviously every word typed out of my fingers is a hint of some devilry. (Beware! It's another hint! Ahh I did it again! ) Love you as much as a I do Agan, if you say you know more about when I'm dropping hints to people than I do myself, you can't be surprised I'm going to disagree on that.

And Lommy, I never said anything about dropping your suspicions because you're a friend. I'm saying I thought I'd get better treatment, even if you were suspicious of me for good reason, and you wouldn't stand idly by for the vague feelings of guilt trumped up against me.

Originally Posted by phantom

Yeah... still think Boro's a Cobbler. If he's a Wolf playing Cobbler in order to survive then my hat is off to him. Sorry lad- it's just the impression that I've carried on from Day 1 and I haven't had a chance to hit the reset button, and I can't give you a better explanation than that.

Yeah, because that is really going to help me and give me a fair shot to prove to you I'm not a cobbler nor a wolf. Thanks bud.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Boro

Yeah, because that is really going to help me and give me a fair shot to prove to you I'm not a cobbler nor a wolf. Thanks bud.

You're not on the lynch menu currently, so you don't have to prove anything to me today. If we're both around next day I'll try and be better prepared to hash things out.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by the phantom

You're not on the lynch menu currently, so you don't have to prove anything to me today. If we're both around next day I'll try and be better prepared to hash things out.

Fair enough.

I should retire, even if I'm not on the "menu" today, I'm not liking where this is heading against Nessa, but can't do anything about that now other than get more grumpy.

[the phantom]

Boro- why is Nessa under threat and why don't you like it?

People against Nessa- I'd like to hear your versions as well.

[Nessa Telrunya]

++Lommy

Because I don't want to die, and she has the closest number of votes. I do, however, feel like the cases against her are quite valid.

EDIT Xed with phantom: I'm just that tricksy, I suppose. Not to mention as grey as paint drying on a wall.

[the phantom]

Wow, I guess I didn't realize how few posts Nessa had. I just reread them all.

And my basic impression? Cobblerish. Not Wolvish.

(x-post Boro)

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Oooh Ooh!! I just got to the place in the thread where there are Lommy votes! I'm excited!

*grits teeth* You know, if you're going to start a single-minded crusade against me, I'll be all for a single-minded crusade against you (which is probably not smart given that you're most likely just a cobbler yourself).

Originally Posted by Agan

Ahaha you're never happy now aren't you!

No. She's become funnier, now, though, ha haa.

Anyway

++Nessa

for reasons previously stated. Good night!


edit: xed with Agan who likes all the nasty uncles who are mean to me

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

edit: xed with Agan who likes all the nasty uncles who are mean to me

If it's of any comfort, I also like it when you're mean to phantom (or Angu, or whoever you happen to be nasty to). I think it means I like mean people rather than just people who are mean to you.

[the phantom]

Nerwen ++ Nessa
Green ++ Lommy
Boro ++ Lommy (2)
Legate ++ Nessa (2)
Lommy ++ Nessa (3)
Sally ++ Nessa (4)

So.... Can anyone lay out the case against Nessa for me? I'm going to try and lynch Lommy if I can, but I'd still like to know why her opponent is in contention.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Nerwen ++ Nessa
Green ++ Lommy
Boro ++ Lommy (2)
Legate ++ Nessa (2)
Lommy ++ Nessa (3)
Sally ++ Nessa (4)

So.... Can anyone lay out the case against Nessa for me? I'm going to try and lynch Lommy if I can, but I'd still like to know why her opponent is in contention.

Well, this may seem hypocritical coming from the person who cast the first vote on her, but I'm rather surprised to see her get so many votes myself. I mean, it is a quite thin case– two dubious votes, plus what looks like an earlier attempt to deflect suspicion of Nogrod back on his accusers. And the business between Boro and Greenie over her. But then it's also true that it's hard to make a good case on anyone right now– I mean, case for wolvishness rather than cobblery.

I haven't ready beyond this last page yet, though, so I don't know what else has happened.

EDIT:X'd with numerous.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Love you as much as a I do Agan, if you say you know more about when I'm dropping hints to people than I do myself, you can't be surprised I'm going to disagree on that.

Obviously. I'm not saying I know more but that it looked like it.

By the way, if you can't make up your mind you can always lynch me because I'm going to die today anyway. That way we could find out Nog's role without there being any other unknowns to check.

Phantom, Boro, Nerwen, ed, Nessa, Mith - or whoever is around - what do you think about the message sending thing? Is it worth trying? I am obviously not going to push it, but I'm not sure I like that it's being ignored (especially by people who discussed earlier if there's any way to do it. Yes I'm talking about you, phantom). You had better speak up now because I can't promise we'll do anything you tell us to with the double votes (be it part of an ingenious plot or not) if we don't have a way to comment on it first.

++Boro

Because I don't particularly care if Nessa or Lommy dies. There are points for and against both, I guess, but because I don't have a very strong opinion on either, I'm not confident enough to sway it one way or other.

I trust my lover to take care of everything and make sure you don't do anything silly while I sleep. Going now, see you in the afterlife.

[Mithalwen]

Agan - the vote thing seems fine I only didnt' comment because I know I don't have the best strategic mind and someone who does might give a better opinion.