Sauron's Hroa and the Missing Finger - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Alfirin · 04-14-2011, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Azrakhor Akallabeth

Well, Blantyr, answer number one is simple. Frodo saw the elven ring on Galadriels hand because he possessed the One Ring. This empowered him to see it, as it's purpose was to dominate ALL rings from that series of forgings.

As for Gandalf, there is much speculation, and alot to be read in other threads about this, but my leaning is to the argument that Eru Iluvatar sanctioned Gandalf's second incarnation and restored whatever the now White Wizard needed of his tool iventory.

Then why did Eru not provide Gandalf with at least TEMPORARY clothing (good enough to last him to Lothlorien, so that he wouldn't freeze to death on top of the mountain.

Galadriel55 · 04-14-2011, 08:29 PM

Possily becuse Gandalf didn't need that clothing.

It wouldn't assist him in saving ME. And he wouldn't die without it either.

blantyr · 04-15-2011, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Alfirin

Then why did Eru not provide Gandalf with at least TEMPORARY clothing (good enough to last him to Lothlorien, so that he wouldn't freeze to death on top of the mountain.

Seems to me that said reincarnation was in part a mystical experience. Hermits don't go on top of mountains just to slay balrogs, after all. Perhaps he needed a little humility to go with his promotion?

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Possily becuse Gandalf didn't need that clothing.

It wouldn't assist him in saving ME. And he wouldn't die without it either.

Didn't know you needed saving at that point.

Azrakhor Akallabeth · 04-15-2011, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by blantyr

Seems to me that said reincarnation was in part a mystical experience. Hermits don't go on top of mountains just to slay balrogs, after all. Perhaps he needed a little humility to go with his promotion?

Bravo, lol!

Galadriel55 · 04-15-2011, 05:08 AM

Galadriel has seen Gandalf UNCLOAKED!!!

Azrakhor Akallabeth · 04-15-2011, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Galadriel has seen Gandalf UNCLOAKED!!!

**runs away shrieking, covering eyes and ears with all four hands**

Eruhen · 07-06-2011, 10:13 AM

To get back to the original thrust of this thread (and resurrect it), wasn't Sauron still disembodied at the time of the War of the Ring? I always thought that without the Ring, he didn't have enough power to remake a physical body.

Inziladun · 07-06-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Eruhen

To get back to the original thrust of this thread (and resurrect it), wasn't Sauron still disembodied at the time of the War of the Ring? I always thought that without the Ring, he didn't have enough power to remake a physical body.

Apparently, while the Ring itself was still intact, Sauron was capable of being rebodied.

However, it took him a pretty long time to get his strength back, so that delay was probably due to his lacking physical possession of the One.

04-14-2011, 08:29 PM	#2
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,493	Possily becuse Gandalf didn't need that clothing. It wouldn't assist him in saving ME. And he wouldn't die without it either. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-15-2011, 05:08 AM	#5
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,493	Scary thought Galadriel has seen Gandalf UNCLOAKED!!! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

07-06-2011, 10:13 AM	#7
Eruhen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: At the Mountains of Madness Posts: 399	To get back to the original thrust of this thread (and resurrect it), wasn't Sauron still disembodied at the time of the War of the Ring? I always thought that without the Ring, he didn't have enough power to remake a physical body. __________________ Agannâlô burôda nênud; zâira nênud. Adûn izindi batân tâidô ayadda: îdô kâtha batîna lôkhî. Êphalak îdôn Yôzâyan. Êphal êphalak îdôn hi-Akallabêth.