Return of the Ring and Barrow-Downs Mega-moot - Celebrating Tolkien in 2012 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Hookbill the Goomba · 01-02-2012, 11:51 AM

Right, I think it's time we made a short-list of what we think is best. Here's what I've narrowed it down to.

http://www.peakpub.co.uk/camping/

Thanks, Mithalwen!
I think this is a good idea, especially with it making the working out of cost easier for each person.

http://www.holiday-rentals.co.uk/p93165

I agree with Aganzir that this looks promising.

http://www.sykescottages.co.uk/cotta...tedDayOfWeek=0

This is in the Peak District which is fairly accesible and it's not too expensive.

I think those are our best options. We should probably book it in the next few weeks so if anyone has any objections or better ideas don't be afraid to let us know! Time is running out!

Estelyn Telcontar · 01-02-2012, 04:30 PM

Thanks for the thought and effort that you're putting into this!

The bunk barn sounds like a good possibility - it's a low-priced accommodation, payable by the night, and space enough for a larger number of people. The only disadvantage is that there's no large communal space, so we'd have to hang out together in one of the rooms. (Problem for those who might want to sleep.)

The homestead cottage looks very nice! It has a dining and sitting room, and with the maximum number of guests, the price is good. But what happens if more than 12 want to come? They do allow additional guests in caravans, so perhaps a tent would be permitted?

The third possibility also looks nice, but sleeps only 10.

Kath · 01-02-2012, 05:19 PM

The bunk barn sounds really good. The communal space shouldn't be a major issue either so long as we nominate one of the hired rooms as said communal space from day 1. Might mean a few people sleeping on the floor in the other rooms but most Mooters are used to that by now!

The Might · 01-02-2012, 06:05 PM

As I see I am listed as Facebook-member without a preference I unfortunately have to say that I cannot attend any of the '12 moots. Due to my final thesis and an internship afterwards I'll be sleeping less and drink a lot more coffee till October. I wish you a lot of fun and am looking forward to the pics!

Mithalwen · 01-02-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kath

The bunk barn sounds really good. The communal space shouldn't be a major issue either so long as we nominate one of the hired rooms as said communal space from day 1. Might mean a few people sleeping on the floor in the other rooms but most Mooters are used to that by now!

Well if the tent were big enough to serve mainly as a communal space maybe that would be an option if most people were sleeping in the barns. Unless the pitch price were prohibitive.... and they might cut a deal on the tent pitch if you dangled the prospect of a substantial barn booking but the lack of indoor communal space being a deal breaker.

Kath · 01-02-2012, 08:13 PM

Using a tent as a communal space would be difficult. You'd have to have some people sleeping in it which messes up who pays what each night and you have no guarantee that the tent site will be anywhere near the barn.

As long as 8 people minimum were in the cottage in the second link then it comes out as the same price for a week per person as the bunk barn one and you do get the communal space and a dining room and no other people hanging around yada yada. Sticking point being whether you can have more than 12 people there. You asking Hookbill? Though, of course, we may not given we're spread over 2 weeks.

Third one seems to come out as more per person per night, and does seem to be a bit smaller.

Kath · 01-02-2012, 08:27 PM

Making a firm date-range also needs to be done, well, now really. People need to start booking flights/time off and saving up!

Date-wise it looks like 6th-19th is going to work best. Otherwise you will have far fewer than 8 people in the last week and that gets expeeeensive. Given the length of most people's summer (at least, those people who aren't teachers!) two weeks is better than three as well. And quite a few are leaving right after the Moot I think. I think if we make those the official dates and then anyone who wants to stay on after that can organise it separately. Not meaning, separately from other 'Downers, but separately to the cost of the actual Moot.

To clarify from my last post, it looks like staying for a week (meaning 7 days) at the bunk barn will be £115 per person. Unless everyone camps - which I think is unlikely and still leaves us with no communal space. With 8 people staying at the second place it's around £118 per person. I think the third place came out at £212 per person with 8 people. (Though I would suggest someone checks my maths!)

Hookbill the Goomba · 01-03-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kath

Making a firm date-range also needs to be done, well, now really. People need to start booking flights/time off and saving up!

Date-wise it looks like 6th-19th is going to work best.

I agree. As for what to do for week 3, I'm not sure. Even if I'm not there for that week I'm still willing to let people use my massive tent of doom. It houses up to 15 at a stretch (according to my siblings who have used it to that extent), though 10 is the 'official' number allowed.

I have to say I'm leaning towards the bunk barn, too. Just in terms of simplicity and ease. Also, it comes with more actual beds so there will be less sleeping on the floor. Yay!
I've got some fold-away tables and things that can be set up in a communal room as well as some other general entertainment stuff. I'd have to call them up (from the depths) to find out if they have plug sockets and if so how many. We need our internets, after all.

01-02-2012, 11:51 AM	#1
Hookbill the Goomba Alive without breath Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: On A Cold Wind To Valhalla Posts: 5,912	Right, I think it's time we made a short-list of what we think is best. Here's what I've narrowed it down to. http://www.peakpub.co.uk/camping/ Thanks, Mithalwen! I think this is a good idea, especially with it making the working out of cost easier for each person. http://www.holiday-rentals.co.uk/p93165 I agree with Aganzir that this looks promising. http://www.sykescottages.co.uk/cotta...tedDayOfWeek=0 This is in the Peak District which is fairly accesible and it's not too expensive. I think those are our best options. We should probably book it in the next few weeks so if anyone has any objections or better ideas don't be afraid to let us know! Time is running out! __________________ I think that if you want facts, then The Downer Newspaper is probably the place to go. I know! I read it once. THE PHANTOM AND ALIEN: The Legend of the Golden Bus Ticket...

01-02-2012, 04:30 PM	#2
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Thanks for the thought and effort that you're putting into this! The bunk barn sounds like a good possibility - it's a low-priced accommodation, payable by the night, and space enough for a larger number of people. The only disadvantage is that there's no large communal space, so we'd have to hang out together in one of the rooms. (Problem for those who might want to sleep.) The homestead cottage looks very nice! It has a dining and sitting room, and with the maximum number of guests, the price is good. But what happens if more than 12 want to come? They do allow additional guests in caravans, so perhaps a tent would be permitted? The third possibility also looks nice, but sleeps only 10. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

01-02-2012, 05:19 PM	#3
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	The bunk barn sounds really good. The communal space shouldn't be a major issue either so long as we nominate one of the hired rooms as said communal space from day 1. Might mean a few people sleeping on the floor in the other rooms but most Mooters are used to that by now! __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

01-02-2012, 06:05 PM	#4
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	As I see I am listed as Facebook-member without a preference I unfortunately have to say that I cannot attend any of the '12 moots. Due to my final thesis and an internship afterwards I'll be sleeping less and drink a lot more coffee till October. I wish you a lot of fun and am looking forward to the pics! __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

01-02-2012, 08:13 PM	#6
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Using a tent as a communal space would be difficult. You'd have to have some people sleeping in it which messes up who pays what each night and you have no guarantee that the tent site will be anywhere near the barn. As long as 8 people minimum were in the cottage in the second link then it comes out as the same price for a week per person as the bunk barn one and you do get the communal space and a dining room and no other people hanging around yada yada. Sticking point being whether you can have more than 12 people there. You asking Hookbill? Though, of course, we may not given we're spread over 2 weeks. Third one seems to come out as more per person per night, and does seem to be a bit smaller. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

01-02-2012, 08:27 PM	#7
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Making a firm date-range also needs to be done, well, now really. People need to start booking flights/time off and saving up! Date-wise it looks like 6th-19th is going to work best. Otherwise you will have far fewer than 8 people in the last week and that gets expeeeensive. Given the length of most people's summer (at least, those people who aren't teachers!) two weeks is better than three as well. And quite a few are leaving right after the Moot I think. I think if we make those the official dates and then anyone who wants to stay on after that can organise it separately. Not meaning, separately from other 'Downers, but separately to the cost of the actual Moot. To clarify from my last post, it looks like staying for a week (meaning 7 days) at the bunk barn will be £115 per person. Unless everyone camps - which I think is unlikely and still leaves us with no communal space. With 8 people staying at the second place it's around £118 per person. I think the third place came out at £212 per person with 8 people. (Though I would suggest someone checks my maths!) __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”