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Dilettante · 01-19-2012, 06:18 PM

Ummmmm.....I thought the Necromancer was Sauron????

Benedict Cumberbatch rocks though....still he bettet get his story straight before the final cut or I shall be sorely disappointed in him.

Galadriel55 · 01-19-2012, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dilettante

Ummmmm.....I thought the Necromancer was Sauron????

Yeah, we'll get to see a giant flaming eyeball swinging a sword at the Five Sunglasses before bobbing away into Mordor. Exciting, isn't it?

Rune Son of Bjarne · 01-20-2012, 07:08 AM

How can Saruman be good? I understand that he is not all bad, but isn't this the time when he starts giving the council ill advice for his own personal gain?

Or is that a sub-plot?

The Hobbit
From White to Many Colours

Boo Radley · 01-20-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Yeah, we'll get to see a giant flaming eyeball swinging a sword at the Five Sunglasses before bobbing away into Mordor. Exciting, isn't it?

I'm beside myself with excitement! There's actually two of me here!

Eruhen · 01-20-2012, 06:43 PM

I'm really hoping this is Cumberbatch not knowing what the Udûn he's talking about. Otherwise, I'm going to start banging my head against the wall now and now stop until There and Back Again comes out.

blue · 01-22-2012, 10:41 PM

That's weird, why would Saruman be "bad" at that time anyway? There're 60 or so years for Sauron (the necromancer) to regain whatever corporeal form (an eye) that he's got and also corrupt Saurman.

It's all a bit odd, if you ask me - If Sauron shows at the Battle of the Five Armies, that wouldn't be the way I would've tied The Hobbit to the LoTR movies. I don't think there's any problems with showing whatever the Istari vs. Necromancer get on with, as that, imo, would be sufficient to make the tie-in, but I guess we'll find out!

Galadriel55 · 01-23-2012, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by blue

That's weird, why would Saruman be "bad" at that time anyway? There're 60 or so years for Sauron (the necromancer) to regain whatever corporeal form (an eye) that he's got and also corrupt Saurman.

From what I remember of the LOTR timeline (the book) Saruman was already "bad", but in secret. He tried to delay the attack on Dol Guldur until he was pressed to allow it, to gain time for the Ring to reveal itself.

blue · 01-24-2012, 07:51 AM

Hmm! Well, I'll have to go back an look, then. I'm probably misremembering but I thought Saurman'd started down the wrong path with the palantir connection with Sauron, though I'm not sure when that could've occurred - prior to the jaunts Gandalf took during the Hobbit to thwart Sauron/Necromancer or after.

We received two looks in the LoTR movies of Sauron - an eye (vividly captured above as requiring massive sunglasses) and a huge dude in armor. I'm hoping Jackson can make as daunting an impression of the necromancer, but somewhere in between, maybe a heavy dark semicorporeal cloak or something, considering Sauron's power is rising, but not fully there yet.

I'll still be ticked if he shows at the Battle of the 5 Armies.

01-19-2012, 06:18 PM	#1
Dilettante Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: As my whimsey takes me. Posts: 43	Ummmmm.....I thought the Necromancer was Sauron???? Benedict Cumberbatch rocks though....still he bettet get his story straight before the final cut or I shall be sorely disappointed in him. __________________ "One equal temper of heroic hearts,Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will. To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield. " Tennyson, Ulysses

01-20-2012, 06:43 PM	#5
Eruhen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: At the Mountains of Madness Posts: 399	I'm really hoping this is Cumberbatch not knowing what the Udûn he's talking about. Otherwise, I'm going to start banging my head against the wall now and now stop until There and Back Again comes out. __________________ Agannâlô burôda nênud; zâira nênud. Adûn izindi batân tâidô ayadda: îdô kâtha batîna lôkhî. Êphalak îdôn Yôzâyan. Êphal êphalak îdôn hi-Akallabêth.

01-22-2012, 10:41 PM	#6
blue Newly Deceased Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6	That's weird, why would Saruman be "bad" at that time anyway? There're 60 or so years for Sauron (the necromancer) to regain whatever corporeal form (an eye) that he's got and also corrupt Saurman. It's all a bit odd, if you ask me - If Sauron shows at the Battle of the Five Armies, that wouldn't be the way I would've tied The Hobbit to the LoTR movies. I don't think there's any problems with showing whatever the Istari vs. Necromancer get on with, as that, imo, would be sufficient to make the tie-in, but I guess we'll find out!

01-24-2012, 07:51 AM	#8
blue Newly Deceased Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6	Hmm! Well, I'll have to go back an look, then. I'm probably misremembering but I thought Saurman'd started down the wrong path with the palantir connection with Sauron, though I'm not sure when that could've occurred - prior to the jaunts Gandalf took during the Hobbit to thwart Sauron/Necromancer or after. We received two looks in the LoTR movies of Sauron - an eye (vividly captured above as requiring massive sunglasses) and a huge dude in armor. I'm hoping Jackson can make as daunting an impression of the necromancer, but somewhere in between, maybe a heavy dark semicorporeal cloak or something, considering Sauron's power is rising, but not fully there yet. I'll still be ticked if he shows at the Battle of the 5 Armies.