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Emperor of the South Pole
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Sadly, its what its come down to. The original is swamped in the movie and gaming hype. One can't talk Tolkien books without someone bringing the movies or even that games into it. The movies killed the Tolkien story legacy, and now is only a cult following. As for myself, I'm not even interested in these so-called Hobbit movies. PJ the usurper is using The Hobbit to pad his coffers, an the PJ movie worshippers are loving him for it. Me, I'll likelywatch the movies at some point, but I'm not getting sucked into the hype that got me interested in the Fellowship. I'm with Christopher on this one.
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A Mere Boggart
Join Date: Mar 2004
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I think Tolkien's writing is more than strong enough to weather any mere film ![]()
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Pilgrim Soul
Join Date: May 2004
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I don't know.. maybe the ones who come here are the ones who might have found the books anyway - it is often forgotten that LOTR was the book of the century by popular vote before the films came out by those who seem to think Tolkien owes Jackson (seriously how many wnent to FOTR because they were mad about Heavenly Creatures compared to those because they were Tolkien fans?). The Hobbit is according to an article I kept but never got round to posting one of the handful of books all booksellers have permanently in stock and have had since it's publication.
I have met several people who have told me that they love Lord of the Rings and then said of course they haven't read the books... ![]()
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A Mere Boggart
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I doubt anyone would have gone to see FotR on the back of Heavenly Creatures, the audience is very different! I should imagine that many went because they wanted to see whether Jackson had managed to 'film the unfilmable'. But before the films came out there was an acknowledgement that they would have to secure the Tolkien fans' buy in if the films were to be a success.
Fan buy-in is always a known factor with this kind of film. And why these types of films which come on the back of a book with a massive cult following are incredibly hard to make. Look at the various films of Alan Moore's work (he famously refuses to have anything to do with them, he takes the Chris T approach!) - Watchmen secured the fans' approval and was a success, whereas The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was not, despite being a decent film if you were not already a fan of the comic book. Then you also get the kinds of fans who will go and see them whether they are keen or not, it's just something they need to appraise for themselves. I'll go and see them even if they are bad films (and I think they will be very enjoyable, so I don't have that worry), just as I lap up Doctor Who even though I'm really not very keen on what Moffat is doing with it - it's just that I prefer RTD's work, much as I prefer the books to the films. As for people who have only seen the films and think they speak with authority, that's just an ideal chance for me to spread the gospel ![]()
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Join Date: Aug 2012
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I love the trilogy and can't wait for the Hobbit come december... I hope to read the whole entire trilogy very soon
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Join Date: May 2002
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But be that as it may, I welcome you to the Downs. If you are seriously in need of Tolkien discussion, this be the place to come! Enjoy being dead.
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So obviously I said "Hey man! Nice to meet you. So, did Balrogs have wings?" *slight chuckle* "What's a Balrog?" ![]() ![]() ![]()
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In my view, this is more of a sad indictment of the fantasy film genre than anything else.
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A Mere Boggart
Join Date: Mar 2004
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I almost feel like an old geek veteran with me war wounds having weathered being a Tolkien fan all through those dark years. ![]()
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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Yeah Fantasy in general was popularized with the coming of the internet. It's not geeky to be a fan of fiction. That is just stupid, just like people say it's geeky to be steve jobs or geeky to be an author or geeky to be an artist or a scientist. The geek label has been put on smart people by dumb people...as we all know there are more dumb people than smart people in this world. It's quite likely that some of you reading this reply are above average when it comes to intelligence in your neighborhood.
I think the internet should be a like puttin on a piece of classical music, you start it up and voila you're in the company of sophisticated artists and then one could exchange information and improve the world. However this might actually happen if the people who currently use the internet keep using it as much as they do now into their 70s 80s. I'm very curious what the internet will look like when the people who are young today use it when they're old. Like if I ever get a child there is no way I'd allow him/her to use it freely. I think adults today don't really understand the internet...with time it will probably change. Sorry off topic. ![]() Last edited by Legolas; 08-06-2012 at 10:59 AM. Reason: Removed inappropriate content |
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There is off topic and then there is egregiously off topic. Simply saying "Sorry off topic" is not a reason to go on a ramble and make an off topic post. Especially, since there are many religious members who use this site and probably don't like being lumped in with people you believe should not be on the internet.
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-People who think they are better than other people without any discernible justification. Really, are you serious? ![]()
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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I don't think I'm better than anyone else, I just recognize high culture while many don't. I'd pass for sure, since I actually enjoy much of what one would put in the "high culture" category. There would be a place for serious discussion on Tolkien that is for sure. But all these fans that dress up as the characters and like pulls Tolkien's work down with all the people who dress up as pokemon and who knows what else. Well the best way to kill off this sillyness is to simply ban it. I'm for some degree of control on the internet.
Just like I'd be for banning all unhealthy food in the supermarkets...however it's in human nature to enjoy unhealthy food...I don't know I just think there has to be some way to simply tame the human condition. You know slap some of your people in the face a bit? ![]() ![]() |
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