Three Times The Hobbit?

[Mumriken]

Evidence for this claim?

Tolkien was devoutly religious throughout his life. He was committed to Catholicism enough to insist his wife converted which wasn't a prerequisite for their marriage. He remained religious through being orphaned as a child, serving through the Somme, losing all but one of his childhood friends in WW1 and seeing two of his sons serve in WW2. His third son was a priest. I cannot see what has happened in the forty years since his death that would undermine the rather more difficult and traumatic eighty odd years of his life span.

I said if he was born like maybe in the 90s he would not have been religious today. You're talking about the tolkien that lived back in the day. Today it's common sense that there is no god and thank goodness it is! Anyway if you want to talk more about this make a topic and redirect me to it.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Mumriken

I said if he was born like maybe in the 90s he would not have been religious today. You're talking about the tolkien that lived back in the day. Today it's common sense that there is no god and thank goodness it is! Anyway if you want to talk more about this make a topic and redirect me to it.

It ought to be "common sense" that you have only your opinion on that matter, and it isn't suitable for debate here. Even a devoted thread on the topic of whether a "modern" Tolkien would have been Catholic is pointless.
For one thing, despite your words, many millions of people even in this day believe in God, and you can bring absolutely no evidence to support your claim that Tolkien would have been any different in that respect.

I suggest you lay the matter to rest. Or, if you like, make a topic about it and leave it up to the forum Administration to judge the appropriateness.

[Mumriken]

Tolkien proved that anyone can make themself a religion. It's not very common for people who haven't been born into a religious family to believe in a god. Tolkien was a slave to the times, his mind was however sharp and if he had been born today. I assure you he would not believe in virgin births.

It's common sense that there is no god and if somebody reading this disagree with me then...well you're probably from America so I don't blame you lol. Anyway it's fun arguing a argument I can't lose, but even if my fingers are itching to break your world view apart I'll leave this topic.

[Morthoron]

Originally Posted by Mumriken

However I'd get banned if I do that, another problem with forums and many social sites. The admins often would be in no position to teach, govern or hold any authoritative positions within the real society. Whatever I don't actually care to win this argument, because I have already won it. (He just doesn't know it) If you ban me you're revealing your true colours and by doing that what a moron you are.

I think you've just about reached critical mass for banishment. And if you do get banned, it will likely be for your own antisocial and antagonistic manner. You know, the type of thing that has gotten you thrown out of any number of decent establishments in the past.

Originally Posted by Mumriken

It's common sense that there is no god...

Is it "common sense"? I would say there is a lack of direct evidence to support it, but then again there was no evidence to support the basic tenets of bacteriology 200 years ago. You may disagree with a belief, but there is no reason to denigrate it. Because for all the lack of evidence for a supreme being, there is no conclusive counter-argument that one cannot or does not exist. Therefore, to each his own. The real ignorance lies in those who wish to force their beliefs on someone else, or demean someone's beliefs in order to make themselves feel superior and hide their own inadequacies.

Originally Posted by Mumriken

...and if somebody reading this disagree with me then...well you're probably from America so I don't blame you lol.

Let's see, first you insult devout people on this forum, then the forum moderators, next the Americans, and basically everyone who doesn't agree with your purposefully crude, decidedly narrow and inarticulate stance. You see, I tend to discredit anyone who makes arrogant statements of allegedly superior intellectual quality ending with Internet slang like "lol".

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Mumriken

I said if he was born like maybe in the 90s he would not have been religious today. You're talking about the tolkien that lived back in the day. Today it's common sense that there is no god and thank goodness it is! Anyway if you want to talk more about this make a topic and redirect me to it.

I don't. You brought it up and unsubstantiated opinion isn't fact and liable to be challenged. There are many intelligent, sincere believers around now. some of them post on this board.

Whether you, or I agree with them is irrelevant to whether Tolkien would be among their number. And not agreeing with people doesn't mean it is acceptable to treat them discourteously. It is a discussion board. The point is to discuss and if applicable, persuade by force of argument not ranting prejudice.

[Mumriken]

And not agreeing with people doesn't mean it is acceptable to treat them discourteously. It is a discussion board. The point is to discuss and if applicable, persuade by force of argument not ranting prejudice.

Well thing is, there is no argument. People who still believe that any of their holy books are true, are by definition ignorant. This debate on wether or not god exists was settled a long time ago. That is why whenever someone says they are a a christian or a muslim, or a tolkienist or a star warsinist. Well they simply don't get it you know Only thing one can do is to laugh or ridicule them.

However I'd get banned if I do that, another problem with forums and many social sites. The admins often would be in no position to teach, govern or hold any authoritative positions within the real society. Whatever I don't actually care to win this argument, because I have already won it. (He just doesn't know it) If you ban me you're revealing your true colours and by doing that what a moron you are.
PEACE