Two Questions about Gandalf in the Undying Lands

[Alfirin]

Originally Posted by blantyr

I've always presumed that Radagast -- along with Bombadil, Goldberry, Shelob and other odd beings of great power -- were left alone.

I'll note that in Saruman's case, a shape of mist formed over the body, looked west, but was dismissed with a cold wind. I think this left Saruman, like Sauron, as a spirit of malice unable to take shape again. I'd like to think Radagast would be accepted, that should he die he would be allowed to return over the seas and take another shape. He might not have been as aggressive as Gandalf in fighting Sauron, but he was no traitor.

No one is sure where to tuck Bombadil and Goldberry, but I wouldn't be shocked if they had that option too, or if they just continued to dance and sing though the Fourth Age.

But we don't know.

I can accept that fate for all of them, except possibly Shelob, who, unlike all of the others, represents a very real, palpable danger to people (I had always assumed that, as part of any attempts to "restore" Mordor somebody (If not Aragorn himself, then possibly Eldarion or if they reached sufficent might, the people of Nurn) might (as soon as they were no longer needed for more pressing restorative matters) have sent a large consort of very well trained, very well armored, very well equipped with lights knighs specifcally to track down and slay Shelob, and so clear the Cirith Ungol Pass (leaving it as is not only means leaving Shelob free to potenially prowl munching on travelers (with no orc sacrafices to feed her, hunger might lead her to leave her lair to hunt at night) but a back door open for anyone to pass in (Mordors secutrity problems remain the same no matter who is actually in power))