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A Little Green · 10-19-2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sally

ARE YOU SERIOUS? *checks* Ugh. I am just beyond fired now. I had my player list beside me and everything and still didn't realize- Let us never speak of this again.

No? I was thinking of reminding you of it... every day... for the next fifteen years...

Shastanis Althreduin · 10-19-2012, 02:04 PM

Here and reading. Two pages shouldn't take too long.

A Little Green · 10-19-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sally

Meh. I was commenting as I went along (having gained the benefit of my prior skimming before I read through for that post) and just knew there was more said on the issue. I do believe I said more than needed to be said on a subject that wasn't actually brought up as much as it initially seemed.

Hmm. That doesn't really make me feel any better about you, if not worse either. There's still the question of, if you thought a certain conversation is futile and a waste of the village's time, why comment on it at all?

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Originally Posted by Sally

Also, how many eyebrows do you have, dear?

For future reference: five.

Nogrod · 10-19-2012, 02:29 PM

Reading this one kind of made me pause for a moment.

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Originally Posted by Sally

There are three wolves. If we have no candidates toward Day's end, then fine, sure, let's kill someone who is going to die anyway to in a way buy ourselves more time, but even if Skip is a wolf, he has packmates, and they must likewise be killed. I'd rather go out in a blaze of accidentally nuking the village than to kill villagers in their sleep and hope that we chase out the wolves that way.

So how about turning the thinking upside down?

It seems Skip is not playing and we are having no good candidates - or at least it feels nasty to try and pick anyone with this little to go for - and so Skip is going to be modfired. And we are actually pretty low on players in the first place. So also from the POV of having this game going just a while longer - and thus giving us even a possibility of finding the wolves by some reasoning - we should at least discuss about this kind of damage-management vote toDay. If and when the wolves don't know each other - at least all of them - there is no team-play to be read from this Day either so it is not so bad if all vote the same.

If I have forgotten something important - or you see a way in which this could backfire let me know so I stop advocating it.

And well, it kind of feels like cheating a bit. But let's think about it anyway?

PS. If Skip is not playing he probably hasn't realised the game has begun - so he could be a wolf as well (about 1/3 possibility). It wouldn't sound like Skip to react like "nah, just an ordo, I'm not playing".

satansaloser2005 · 10-19-2012, 02:33 PM

Nog: Given that there is only half an hour left in the Day, I am amenable to an absentee lynch for the sake of damage control. It's not my first choice, but I don't see a whole lot of options right now, so....ugh. I do want to wait as long as possible though, just in case Skip does show up.

I have some things to attend to, but I'll be back shortly before deadline.

satansaloser2005 · 10-19-2012, 02:58 PM

I have to leave like now, kids. Can we just cut the shenanigans and lynch a wolf already?

Coppermirror · 10-20-2012, 06:54 PM

But before I go:

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Originally Posted by MCRmyGirl4eva

Personally, though I can see the reasoning here, I don't think it's quite fair. However, I suppose that could be because I'm on the recieving end. Sorry guys, but at least I informed you, istead of disappearing without a word.

That's got to count for something, right?

It is good that you told us you'd be having trouble, really! But the other suspicions about you, well, that's just par for the course in Werewolf. Like you were saying in-character on Day 1, it's hard to trust anyone.

You tried to cast your vote for the Day, right? But you posted it during the Night period of the game, so it won't count. (Probably, unless Kath-mod takes extreme mercy on you.) If you still want to cast a vote, you'll need to do it sometime during Day 3, which is now. And, if you don't cast a vote toDay, you'll be mod-fired.

A Little Green · 10-19-2012, 02:35 PM

All right, dearies, it's bed-time for me. If I have it right, Pom is the only one with a vote this far. I have my doubts about her, but not enough to give her a second vote. I also considered Nog but decided to give him a pass for now (mainly because everything I've found suspicious about him this far has been stuff I always suspect him for when he's innocent). Or some submarine, for that matter, but Shasta is still coming toDay it seems and I don't want to lynch him before he has the chance to show his quality (heh heh), and MCR had some RL trouble, didn't she? If so, I'd be inclined to give her another Day. Copper has looked innocentish all along and Boro more so after his most recent post. Who I was thinking of is instead

++ Sally

Part gut-feeling, part her inclination to pursue an irrelevant topic; makes no sense for an innocent, makes sense for a wolf. Flimsy, I know, but it's the best I've got.

EDIT: x-ed with everything on this page!

Shastanis Althreduin · 10-19-2012, 02:37 PM

Having some gut-rumblings about my pearl.

Kind of want to vote Boro, though.

And neither of those actually help right now. Hmm.

Shastanis Althreduin · 10-19-2012, 02:41 PM

Nerwen - Pom (Pom1)
Cop - Shasta (Pom1, Shasta1)
Greenie - Sally (Pom1, Shasta1, Sally1)

Is that really all the votes thus far? Isn't deadline in twenty minutes?

Shastanis Althreduin · 10-19-2012, 02:44 PM

It's the weirdest thing... why would Boro call Nerwen "Nerwen wolf"? Why not just Nerwolf like she's usually called?

Shastanis Althreduin · 10-19-2012, 02:45 PM

Can't not do it. Too many interesting little things.

++Boro

A Little Green · 10-19-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nog

So how about turning the thinking upside down?

It seems Skip is not playing and we are having no good candidates - or at least it feels nasty to try and pick anyone with this little to go for - and so Skip is going to be modfired. And we are actually pretty low on players in the first place. So also from the POV of having this game going just a while longer - and thus giving us even a possibility of finding the wolves by some reasoning - we should at least discuss about this kind of damage-management vote toDay. If and when the wolves don't know each other - at least all of them - there is no team-play to be read from this Day either so it is not so bad if all vote the same.

If I have forgotten something important - or you see a way in which this could backfire let me know so I stop advocating it.

Nog - yes, you have forgotten something important. The wolves win by killing us at Night (and Day). We win by killing wolves by Day. The lynch is pretty much our only weapon, and it's utter madness not to use it. Anyhow, I know this isn't the first time I disagree with you (or someone else) on this topic so I'm not going to argue, but I'd advise strongly against any such plan.

Nogrod · 10-19-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by A Little Green

Nog - yes, you have forgotten something important. The wolves win by killing us at Night (and Day). We win by killing wolves by Day. The lynch is pretty much our only weapon, and it's utter madness not to use it.

I agree with the lynch being our only weapon, but we would not be lynching a "probably innocent" like when a lackluster player is lynched just to be on the safe side, but a 1/3 possibility wolf.

Shastanis Althreduin · 10-19-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

I agree with the lynch being our only weapon, but we would not be lynching a "probably innocent" like when a lackluster player is lynched just to be on the safe side, but a 1/3 possibility wolf.

You say that like it's a sure thing...

Nogrod · 10-19-2012, 02:48 PM

Nice.

Let's all vote different people and let the dice decide then?

Nerwen - Pom
Cop - Shasta
Greenie - Sally
Shasta - Boro

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Originally Posted by Shasta

You say that like it's a sure thing...

?

Shastanis Althreduin · 10-19-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Nice.

Let's all vote different people and let the dice decide then?

Nerwen - Pom
Cop - Shasta
Greenie - Sally
Shasta - Boro

?

What I mean is, you're talking like Skip has a set-in-stone 1/3 chance to be evil without looking at all the possibilities. I agree that he could be a wolf, if all the wolves weren't just active and unlucky yesterday.

Boromir88 · 10-19-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Let's all vote different people and let the dice decide then?

Nerwen - Pom
Cop - Shasta
Greenie - Sally
Shasta - Boro

?

For what it's worth, I would say first preference is to vote for Skip. But of those already with votes...

sally, Pom, then Shasta in that order. (as far as who I'd vote for)

satansaloser2005 · 10-19-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by A Little Green

Part gut-feeling, part her inclination to pursue an irrelevant topic; makes no sense for an innocent, makes sense for a wolf.

Who's pursuing it now, darling?

Nogrod · 10-19-2012, 02:54 PM

Pom's explanations were a bit over--thought (reminded of something come up with afterwards).

Boro is too nice and holding back anything he possibly suspects only talking nice to others.

Skip would be damage-control (and about 1/3 possibility wolf).

I'm still a bit suspicious of Nerwen, even if some would find the reasons for my suspicions overreaching (but there's so little thus far for anything)...

Nogrod · 10-19-2012, 02:56 PM

Let's see then...

++ Nerwen

Who will blink?

Shastanis Althreduin · 10-19-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Let's see then...

++ Nerwen

Who will blink?

Whoa, what? Very unlike you, Nog.

Nogrod · 10-19-2012, 02:57 PM

Nerwen - Pom
Cop - Shasta
Greenie - Sally
Shasta - Boro
Pom - Skip
Nog - Nerwen

Pomegranate · 10-19-2012, 02:52 PM

Okay. Real life caught up with me just as stuff started happening, and I will have to vote now, and won't have too much time to analyse the latest proceedings. But some vibes:

I've played with Boro twice. In the first game, he was innocent, and arrogant and aggressive. Actually acting pretty much like this explanation:

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Currently my suspicions would be either completely rhetorical or ad hominen..."you're a wolf aren't you? Yes. You are, don't lie!?" Which would only aggrivate and give headaches to everyone.

In the second game he was a wolf and apologetic and like here. And I didn't realise. So now I'm feeling bad vibes.

And that being said, I'd like to follow on Nog's point on lynching a would-be mod-fire. I definitely don't want to get rid of Nog, Coppermirror or Nerwen, even though I'm not by far believing them innocent - they have at least been vocal, I've enjoyed having some company. And I'm not comfortable lynching anyone of the newly appeared people, because I haven't had time to concentrate in what they have said. And this seems reasonable now that I at least feel like I'll have some talk and some actions to analyse, come tomorrow.

++skip spence

Good night.

Shastanis Althreduin · 10-19-2012, 02:55 PM

So...

"I think Boro could be a wolf, and he has a vote, but I'm going to place the first vote on someone who's going to be modfired anyway instead, because reasons."

-raises eyebrow-

Pomegranate · 10-19-2012, 02:56 PM

Boro did not have a vote when I wrote that, I was crossing with that post.

Shastanis Althreduin · 10-19-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pomegranate

Boro did not have a vote when I wrote that, I was crossing with that post.

Ah, noted. Apologies.

Boromir88 · 10-19-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pomegranate

I've played with Boro twice. In the first game, he was innocent, and arrogant and aggressive. Actually acting pretty much like this explanation:

The thing people don't understand though is it's draining to keep up that aggression and intensity constantly. So, I save it for times when it's absolutely really necessary.

Shastanis Althreduin · 10-19-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

The thing people don't understand though is it's draining to keep up that aggression and intensity constantly. So, I save it for times when it's absolutely really necessary.

Since when?

Kath · 10-19-2012, 03:00 PM

Stop posting.

10-19-2012, 02:04 PM	#2
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Here and reading. Two pages shouldn't take too long. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

10-19-2012, 02:33 PM	#5
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Nog: Given that there is only half an hour left in the Day, I am amenable to an absentee lynch for the sake of damage control. It's not my first choice, but I don't see a whole lot of options right now, so....ugh. I do want to wait as long as possible though, just in case Skip does show up. I have some things to attend to, but I'll be back shortly before deadline. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

10-19-2012, 02:58 PM	#6
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	I have to leave like now, kids. Can we just cut the shenanigans and lynch a wolf already? __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

10-19-2012, 02:35 PM	#8
A Little Green Leaf-clad Lady Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,571	All right, dearies, it's bed-time for me. If I have it right, Pom is the only one with a vote this far. I have my doubts about her, but not enough to give her a second vote. I also considered Nog but decided to give him a pass for now (mainly because everything I've found suspicious about him this far has been stuff I always suspect him for when he's innocent). Or some submarine, for that matter, but Shasta is still coming toDay it seems and I don't want to lynch him before he has the chance to show his quality (heh heh), and MCR had some RL trouble, didn't she? If so, I'd be inclined to give her another Day. Copper has looked innocentish all along and Boro more so after his most recent post. Who I was thinking of is instead ++ Sally Part gut-feeling, part her inclination to pursue an irrelevant topic; makes no sense for an innocent, makes sense for a wolf. Flimsy, I know, but it's the best I've got. EDIT: x-ed with everything on this page! __________________ "But some stories, small, simple ones about setting out on adventures or people doing wonders, tales of miracles and monsters, have outlasted all the people who told them, and some of them have outlasted the lands in which they were created."

10-19-2012, 02:37 PM	#9
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Having some gut-rumblings about my pearl. Kind of want to vote Boro, though. And neither of those actually help right now. Hmm. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

10-19-2012, 02:41 PM	#10
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Nerwen - Pom (Pom1) Cop - Shasta (Pom1, Shasta1) Greenie - Sally (Pom1, Shasta1, Sally1) Is that really all the votes thus far? Isn't deadline in twenty minutes? __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV Last edited by Shastanis Althreduin; 10-19-2012 at 02:41 PM. Reason: X'ed with Greenie

10-19-2012, 02:44 PM	#11
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	It's the weirdest thing... why would Boro call Nerwen "Nerwen wolf"? Why not just Nerwolf like she's usually called? __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV Last edited by Shastanis Althreduin; 10-19-2012 at 02:44 PM. Reason: X'ed with Nog

10-19-2012, 02:45 PM	#12
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Can't not do it. Too many interesting little things. ++Boro __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV Last edited by Shastanis Althreduin; 10-19-2012 at 02:45 PM. Reason: X'ed with Boro - shush, I thought we agreed not to talk about that ;)

10-19-2012, 02:54 PM	#20
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Pom's explanations were a bit over--thought (reminded of something come up with afterwards). Boro is too nice and holding back anything he possibly suspects only talking nice to others. Skip would be damage-control (and about 1/3 possibility wolf). I'm still a bit suspicious of Nerwen, even if some would find the reasons for my suspicions overreaching (but there's so little thus far for anything)... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

10-19-2012, 02:56 PM	#21
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Let's see then... ++ Nerwen Who will blink? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

10-19-2012, 02:57 PM	#23
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Nerwen - Pom Cop - Shasta Greenie - Sally Shasta - Boro Pom - Skip Nog - Nerwen __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

10-19-2012, 02:55 PM	#25
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	So... "I think Boro could be a wolf, and he has a vote, but I'm going to place the first vote on someone who's going to be modfired anyway instead, because reasons." -raises eyebrow- __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV Last edited by Shastanis Althreduin; 10-19-2012 at 02:55 PM. Reason: X'ed with Nog

10-19-2012, 02:56 PM	#26
Pomegranate Wight Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Home (either of them) Posts: 151	Boro did not have a vote when I wrote that, I was crossing with that post. __________________ But I will run until my feet no longer run no more

10-19-2012, 03:00 PM	#30
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Stop posting. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”