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Pervinca Took · 03-10-2013, 09:49 AM

There's Anduril, of course, (previously called Narsil), but I don't know if the term epesse is used of swords - and I can't account for the "uri" element.

I don't know if it can be used of eagles either.

But in any case Landroval (even if that was a nickname) doesn't have the word "land" in disarray - quite the opposite.

I would take that advice - I just don't know that many epesses.

EDIT:

I wonder if AMANDIL might work - because there was also a Tar-Amandil, so Tar could be left off. And there is land jumbled up, but I don't know what to do with the "ami" letters.

Galadriel55 · 03-10-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

There's Anduril, of course, (previously called Narsil), but I don't know if the term epesse is used of swords - and I can't account for the "uri" element.

Star=Tauri
Tauri-ta=uri
uri+land=Anduril

Methinks you have it.

Pervinca Took · 03-10-2013, 10:23 AM

I was just trying to make Felagund work, because that's definitely an epesse!

If Anduril is right, Galadriel got it really, not me.

RE: Are there any Tolkien palindromes beside Mim?

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55
Bob. But I think that's it.

We forgot ODO!

Galadriel55 · 03-10-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

If Anduril is right, Galadriel got it really, not me.

No, you got it. I was just working backwards from your answer.

Mithalwen · 03-10-2013, 11:51 AM

Neither of you have it. I thought I indicated than thank you was not ta or tar. The clue is not that tricksy and I feel it follows the conventions. I understand epesse to be a secondary name of a personand that is what you are looking for. Further more it is known as a secondary name. It isnt Felagund but it is on a par. I havent been mean and used someone like Gilgalad or Galadriel who are best known by the epesse to the extent that the original name is forgotten.

The cryptic clue is in two distinct parts which simply have to be added together.

Pervinca Took · 03-10-2013, 12:38 PM

Celebrindal?

Contains "land" and "ele" (star). Not sure about "thank you," unless it is celebrate minus rate - if you rate someone you appreciate them (as you do if you celebrate them).

Mithalwen · 03-10-2013, 01:08 PM

Hurray. It is Celebrindal but you aren' t right on the reasoning quite.

Star was celebrity which lost the initial letters of thank you, t and y to leave celebri.

Land of course turns into ndal.

03-10-2013, 09:49 AM	#1
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	There's Anduril, of course, (previously called Narsil), but I don't know if the term epesse is used of swords - and I can't account for the "uri" element. I don't know if it can be used of eagles either. But in any case Landroval (even if that was a nickname) doesn't have the word "land" in disarray - quite the opposite. I would take that advice - I just don't know that many epesses. EDIT: I wonder if AMANDIL might work - because there was also a Tar-Amandil, so Tar could be left off. And there is land jumbled up, but I don't know what to do with the "ami" letters. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 03-10-2013 at 10:01 AM.

03-10-2013, 10:23 AM	#3
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I was just trying to make Felagund work, because that's definitely an epesse! If Anduril is right, Galadriel got it really, not me. RE: Are there any Tolkien palindromes beside Mim? Quote: Originally Posted by Galadriel55 Bob. But I think that's it. We forgot ODO! __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 03-10-2013 at 11:50 AM.

03-10-2013, 11:51 AM	#5
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Neither of you have it. I thought I indicated than thank you was not ta or tar. The clue is not that tricksy and I feel it follows the conventions. I understand epesse to be a secondary name of a personand that is what you are looking for. Further more it is known as a secondary name. It isnt Felagund but it is on a par. I havent been mean and used someone like Gilgalad or Galadriel who are best known by the epesse to the extent that the original name is forgotten. The cryptic clue is in two distinct parts which simply have to be added together. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-10-2013, 12:38 PM	#6
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Celebrindal? Contains "land" and "ele" (star). Not sure about "thank you," unless it is celebrate minus rate - if you rate someone you appreciate them (as you do if you celebrate them). __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 03-10-2013 at 12:42 PM.

03-10-2013, 01:08 PM	#7
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Hurray. It is Celebrindal but you aren' t right on the reasoning quite. Star was celebrity which lost the initial letters of thank you, t and y to leave celebri. Land of course turns into ndal. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace