Cryptic Clues - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Morsul the Dark · 03-10-2013, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Very clever. I suppose the brilliance of Tolkien's starry universe can blind one to more tawdry things like celebrity.

Here we go, then:

Red hip mutates in the woods, although surrounded by nothing.

What in the.....

I'm having flashback to Saucepanman...

Mutates could indicate an anagram...
I wonder if "Although surrounded by nothing" could be the straight clue working from that it could be an island or the void... something to that effect...

Mithalwen · 03-10-2013, 03:49 PM

I wish he would come back. I hope I won't be the one to pass his post count.

Pervinca Took · 03-10-2013, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

What in the.....

I'm having flashback to Saucepanman...

Mutates could indicate an anagram...
I wonder if "Although surrounded by nothing" could be the straight clue working from that it could be an island or the void... something to that effect...

1. You're right about "mutates."
2. "Surrounded by nothing" isn't the straight clue.

Quote:

Yes, the pedant in me feels that celebrity like personality is something one may have rather than be..ans in retrospect I realised that it may have been harder for those who, pronounce elvish correctly ...and while I know it is keleb I still mentally read seleb a lot of the time...

It wasn't that. It just didn't occur to me that it might be a name used together with the original name. Names like Turambar, Serinde, Celebrindal and Felagund I kind of think of almost as non-hereditary surnames, although of course they're not. I was looking for a name you only ever see on its own - like Galadriel, who is never called Nerwen Galadriel.

And I meant that stars of the twinkling in the sky variety feature so much in Tolkien - linguistically, literally, in heraldry, in terms of there being names for individual ones, etc - that I went looking in all those places and it didn't occur to me to think of that particular meaning of star.

That's why I'm not very good at cryptic crosswords, even though I like them so much.

Mithalwen · 03-10-2013, 05:11 PM

Yes I realised that the other kind of star was more likely and nearly pointed out that it was polysemic. But since the straight clue and anagram had been identified quickly I thought with the benefit of knowing the answer!that itvwoukd come quickly. I just think I can't judge difficulty.

Morsul the Dark · 03-12-2013, 09:12 AM

Ok so... Neldorath is a possibility...

Eldor Red Ol' ....Ol' as in sly Ol' dog a "hip" guy(Stretched that one)

Nath(Could be nothing in another language I doubt it though....)

And it's a forest (In the woods)

So in conclusion I'm wrong...

Pervinca Took · 03-12-2013, 11:47 AM

You're right - almost - about where the straight clue is.

But - big clue - the straight clue isn't the woods themselves, but IN the woods.

(Something you might find in the woods).

Pervinca Took · 03-18-2013, 11:59 AM

It's something that grows, with an original name given to it by Tolkien - there are very few plants, flowers and trees that Tolkien originally invented and gave names to.

It would almost certainly be found in the woods. It grew in at least two countries with woods in them.

03-10-2013, 03:49 PM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I wish he would come back. I hope I won't be the one to pass his post count. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-10-2013, 05:11 PM	#4
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Yes I realised that the other kind of star was more likely and nearly pointed out that it was polysemic. But since the straight clue and anagram had been identified quickly I thought with the benefit of knowing the answer!that itvwoukd come quickly. I just think I can't judge difficulty. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-12-2013, 09:12 AM	#5
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	Ok so... Neldorath is a possibility... Eldor Red Ol' ....Ol' as in sly Ol' dog a "hip" guy(Stretched that one) Nath(Could be nothing in another language I doubt it though....) And it's a forest (In the woods) So in conclusion I'm wrong... __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

03-12-2013, 11:47 AM	#6
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	You're right - almost - about where the straight clue is. But - big clue - the straight clue isn't the woods themselves, but IN the woods. (Something you might find in the woods). __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

03-18-2013, 11:59 AM	#7
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	It's something that grows, with an original name given to it by Tolkien - there are very few plants, flowers and trees that Tolkien originally invented and gave names to. It would almost certainly be found in the woods. It grew in at least two countries with woods in them. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."