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Gruesome Spectre
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Heaven's doorstep
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Having served some time in the military, I can speak to the fact that being a soldier is physically demanding. It requires not only a level of cardiovascular fitness (at which women actually can and do better men many times), but also a high degree of strength, especially upper body. Though today's weapons are much lighter in weight than in the past, it still needs physical power to carry and shoot combat arms such as shotguns, rifles, and machine guns. In earlier eras the strength required was much greater: wielding longswords and winding crossbows was many times limited even among men to the strongest. The idea of a slender Elf-woman having a position in Tolkien's Middle-earth that required melee fighting as an occupation is utter rubbish.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: May 2007
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'There are indeed some differences between the natural inclinations of neri and nissi, and other differences that have been established by custom (varying in place and in time, and in the several races of the Eldar). For instance, the arts of healing, and all that touches on the care of the body, are among all the Eldar most practised by the nissi; whereas it was the elven-men who bore arms at need.' ... and when the essay gets specific about fighting and healing, the nissi [Elven women]... 'Indeed in dire straits or desperate defence, the nissi fought valiantly, and there was less difference in strength and speed between elven-men and elven-women that had not borne child than is seen among mortals.' ... and exceptions with respect to Elven-men and hearling are noted... 'On the other hand many elven-men were great healers and skilled in the lore of living bodies, though such men abstained from hunting, and went not to war until the last need.' So it appears to remain that Elven-women fought under the already described scenario, and not outside it [again, even though in a more general context, customs could vary for certain reasons] -- within which scenario [in my opinion] might fall Idril arming herself [if this was to remain a detail in any updated Fall of Gondolin, that is], and possibly Galadriel's heroic defense of the Teleri [if in fact this was part of Galadriel's 'true' history]. Some ifs there. Last edited by Galin; 08-22-2014 at 08:00 AM. |
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Doubting Dwimmerlaik
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Heaven's basement
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The question might be, "Did she glow?"
Watching the scene again, clearly Tauriel glows. Interlaced with her glowing is Kili looking at her while in a manic/delirious state. After all of the glowage, one of the dwarves remarked that they'd just witnessed some remarkable Elven healing, but this statement does not indicate that the elf glowed. Absent from the scene where shots of the other people in the room, staring at Tauriel while she healed Kili. Methinks that the glow way in the eye of the beholder, love sick dwarf that he was.
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