"The Hobbit: There And Back Again" To be Renamed "The Battle of the Five Armies"

[Mithalwen]

I have given up the the Tolkien Society. Felt I had accidentally joined the Peter Jackson society.

[tom the eldest]

The change of name would probably decrease the already low reception of peter jackson in the eye of book tolkienist.

[Mithalwen]

Don't see why. It is a better title and a Tolkien title and so trivial compared to what he had already done.

[Bêthberry]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I have given up the the Tolkien Society. Felt I had accidentally joined the Peter Jackson society.

That's neither here nor there to me. I posted the blog article because I was intrigued to see that the Hobbit movies have not made the masses of money the studios expected. I haven't seen this fact before, but then I don't roam around movie sites. I might even say it's a pleasant surprise.

Not that I use profit as a measure of quality of a movie, btw.

DoS sounds like a computer system. I want to know why it is the battle of "the five armies" and not just the battle of "five armies." Yes, I am a pedantic.

[alatar]

Originally Posted by Bêthberry

DoS sounds like a computer system.

That's showing your age (and mine).

I want to know why it is the battle of "the five armies" and not just the battle of "five armies." Yes, I am a pedantic.

Correct. Today it should be "Battle 5RMEz"...at least on the T-shirts.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Bêthberry

That's neither here nor there to me. I posted the blog article because I was intrigued to see that the Hobbit movies have not made the masses of money the studios expected. I haven't seen this fact before, but then I don't roam around movie sites. I might even say it's a pleasant surprise.

Oh, the first two films have made money, all right– but it is also the case that they've done less well at the box office than they were expected to do– “success" is very relative. The funny thing is seeing the author of the article you link use this to bolster up exactly the same kind of “these changes were made for sound financial reasons, so no complaining" argument that we’ve all seen used as a blanket defence of… the first two films.

But then the whole article sounds rather familiar, doesn’t it?:

“...if they do come to the books via the films then that is surely good news all round.”
“..these action scenes are nothing new to Jackson’s films or Tolkien’s books...”
“...further use of ‘The Appendices’…"
“...channels the essence of the story…”
“..Jackson is a creative and a massive fan of Tolkien’s works– this change is the right decision.."

[tom the eldest]

Massive fan of tolkien works?he even almost never read lord of the rings.he simply read it in a flash then put it down,never to read it again.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by tom the eldest

Massive fan of tolkien works?he even almost never read lord of the rings.he simply read it in a flash then put it down,never to read it again.

I’m sure Jackson is a fan– it’s not that, really, it’s the idea that this automatically makes any decision of his correct. That’s literally the extent of the reasoning here:

Jackson is a creative and a massive fan of Tolkien’s works – this change is the right decision for the film and the right decision to honour J.R.R. Tolkien’s literary classic.

Note that though this refers to the name-change, it’s a general all-purpose defence– as is a good deal of the article.

[Bêthberry]

Originally Posted by Mister Underhill

I bet Warner Brothers is already trying to figure if they can expand the appendices into movie trilogies. Appendix E - Writing and Spelling: The Quest for More Lucre. It is with regret that I report this.

We might consider protesting such movies with signs in any variety of language that Tolkien created. It might not get the message across to many, but it would make nerd hearts feel good.

Originally Posted by alatar

Correct. Today it should be "Battle 5RMEz"...at least on the T-shirts.

At least I suppose this means we won't get seven or eight or nine armies, the additions being made up characters of the Jackson gang.

Originally Posted by Nerwen quoting article

“..Jackson is a creative and a massive fan of Tolkien’s works– this change is the right decision.."

Defending Jackson as a fan of Tolkien also ignores the fact that he is a fan of a variety of movie styles and other directors. The mix of his various fandoms doesn't mesh well.

[tom the eldest]

How many armies would you think will join in the battle?they probably would add anpther forces,just to make thing intense.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

“...further use of ‘The Appendices’…"

That's my favourite one of all time. It's in the Appendices, go read it for yourself. In which Appendices? I dunno, I never read them.