Why did the Wise not bow to the Hobbits?

[Mithalwen]

Elrond and Gandalf were ringbearers. And the cynical might point out that the hobbits were their pawns..noo the one ring is too dangerous for us... off you trot now...

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Elrond and Gandalf were ringbearers. And the cynical might point out that the hobbits were their pawns..noo the one ring is too dangerous for us... off you trot now...

Heh. RHIP. It reminds me of the Bored of the Rings line where Frito says something like "I don't remember volunteering for this Ring business."

[Puddleglum]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Heh. RHIP. It reminds me of the Bored of the Rings line where Frito says something like "I don't remember volunteering for this Ring business."

No one was very noble in that book. Didn't Goodgulf run up the white flag declaring "better Sorhed than No Head"?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Puddleglum

No one was very noble in that book. Didn't Goodgulf run up the white flag declaring "better Sorhed than No Head"?

I don't recall that specifically, but I do remember Frito positing ideas for getting rid of the Ring, and Goodgulf saying 'Alas, it is not that easy.'
'But why?'
'Alas,' explained Goodgulf.
'Alackaday,' Orlon agreed.

Now if PJ had aimed for parody, I might be much more forgiving toward these films.

[Lotrelf]

I feel I should have started this thread in ME Mirth. -!- As for the Hobbits, I feel, the reason may be Merry and Pip too whose deeds were not as great as those of the Ring-bearers but they, too, stood there with them. IDK, I am wondering if there's something by Peter Jackson that shows his decision that sort of contradicts with Professor Tolkien's.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Lotrelf

I feel I should have started this thread in ME Mirth. -!- As for the Hobbits, I feel, the reason may be Merry and Pip too whose deeds were not as great as those of the Ring-bearers but they, too, stood there with them. IDK, I am wondering if there's something by Peter Jackson that shows his decision that sort of contradicts with Professor Tolkien's.

Sorry about the tangent.
In the book, of course, it is only Frodo and Sam who are honored at Cormallen. Merry and Pippin are in a serving capacity.
I think Jackson didn't consider the book was clear enough when it came to acknowledging the fact that the Ring's destruction was brought about by the labor of many, who each played their own part, Frodo had suffered the most, physically and spiritually, though Sam had been his master's greatest support.
If anyone was deserving of a bow, it was Gandalf. After all, Sauron's destruction had been his sole occupation for centuries.

[Lotrelf]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Sorry about the tangent.
In the book, of course, it is only Frodo and Sam who are honored at Cormallen. Merry and Pippin are in a serving capacity.
I think Jackson didn't consider the book was clear enough when it came to acknowledging the fact that the Ring's destruction was brought about by the labor of many, who each played their own part, Frodo had suffered the most, physically and spiritually, though Sam had been his master's greatest support.
If anyone was deserving of a bow, it was Gandalf. After all, Sauron's destruction had been his sole occupation for centuries.

Gandalf indeed deserved the bow and honour. But I can't agree he did deserve more than the two Hobbits. Gandalf fought the Evil with the Powers he was given and never faced the threat that the hobbits did. Frodo and Sam go to Mordor without any aid (except each other's company) and that is the sole reason why they deserved the highest honor. Elrond's remark of Frodo's place being among the great Elf-friends is one of the signs why he and Sam should be considered in the highest regard. Gandalf being a powerful Maia doesn't degrade him as a great personality but it does increase the Hobbits'.