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Old 10-14-2014, 05:18 PM   #1
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Other than that - I'm a bit worried about how carefully non-committal Wilwa's post toDay is. It wouldn't have alarmed me in a normal situation, but on a Day when we lose if we lynch an innocent, the wolves would have good reason to be extra flexible in who they vote for. It looks like she's trying to keep all ends open and not voice an opinion before something definite happens, exactly what a wolf might want to do on a Day like this.
My post had that kind of tone because I intended for it to be the first of many contributions today, not my sole contribution, but once again my stupid real life has gotten in the way of my pretend life (I was offered a job interview tomorrow that I had to make very last minute travel plans for, my day has been insane).

The one good thing about RL stuff is I will be up very early now in the morning and can therefore wait to vote and be around for DL. Though we don't want to all make last minute votes either, the wolves will likely be making every attempt to vote as late as possible so they can have control over the outcome. My best suggestion is that we shouldn't spread the votes out too much, try to reach some consensus before voting so the 4 Ordos can maintain some semblance of control by trying their best to all vote the same way. I'm aware that it's not necessarily possible to accomplish this, but we should do our best.

Perhaps since we all have seemed to agree that Inzil is very likely innocent we let him vote first and then the other 3 Ordos agree to vote the same way no matter what? The wolves will then either jump on board or vote elsewhere. If we get an innocent than yes we lose, but if we hit a wolf we might actually have an idea of who else to look at tomorrow based on who didn't want to go along with the plan?
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Old 10-14-2014, 05:36 PM   #2
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Perhaps since we all have seemed to agree that Inzil is very likely innocent we let him vote first and then the other 3 Ordos agree to vote the same way no matter what? The wolves will then either jump on board or vote elsewhere. If we get an innocent than yes we lose, but if we hit a wolf we might actually have an idea of who else to look at tomorrow based on who didn't want to go along with the plan?
In other words, no pressure.

I could possibly vote at DL. I just wouldn't have had much chance to review posts.

At the moment, I'm waffling on who to vote for. I should be able to give things a close look before though.
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Old 10-14-2014, 07:58 PM   #3
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At the moment, innocents outnumber wolves 4-3.

The only way to keep things going to the next Day is if I vote for a wolf and all innocents follow me.

As I said, I could probably get in here in time to make a last minute vote before DL, but I would not have time to do more then give a cursory glance to posts made while I was asleep.

I have it narrowed down to two I think are the likeliest wolves, but it would be nice to have some other input if anyone else is around.
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If it were only that easy.
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Old 10-14-2014, 09:11 PM   #6
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Ok, since it looks like everyone's lying low, I guess it's time to roll the dice.

++Sally

She voted for me two Days, both for what I consider dodgy reasons. The Day 2 vote was partly because of past games, by her admission.

This idea of hers that an AganSeer might on Day 1 have been buddying up to me having dreamt me as a wolf is a serious reach.

Best I can do. Here's hoping.
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Old 10-14-2014, 09:40 PM   #7
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Well, Inzil, if you're wrong, we're out of luck whatever I do. I hope you're right.

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Old 10-14-2014, 09:48 PM   #8
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This idea of hers that an AganSeer might on Day 1 have been buddying up to me having dreamt me as a wolf is a serious reach.
I come back after sleeping off a headache and find that this has somehow become a thing? I never thought she was buddying up to you. I said I could see the possibility. Those are two vastly different things. Presented with actual context as it should be, I think you'll find that what I said was....

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Regarding the possibility of Agan bluffing as seer, I could see her buddying up to Dun for a Day had she dreamt him a wolf. After all, she's a hot candidate for Night kills (as we've just seen), so throwing him off her scent could buy her an extra dream or two so she could....I don't know, man, it's Agan. Frankly, my first suspicions would not have been that she was the seer; she defended Dun to the extreme, sure, but the manner in which she did it does not cry seer to me. I think she was going from what little evidence she had and wanted to keep Dun around because, as she said, she wanted to play with him.
My logic is bolded, and in my opinion was clear to begin with. You're the one reaching, love.

You say I voted you based partly on past games, which as a joke is true, but I find you suspicious for actual reasons, some of which you are illustrating now. Suddenly finding my votes for you incredibly suspicious when only hours ago you found Nerwen and Shasta the best wolf candidates based on voting trends? Why change your position to me? Could it be that one (or both, which....unlikely) of them is your packmate? You said you wouldn't repeat your (frankly stunning) performance from a previous game, so perhaps toDay's actions are that restraint coming into play. (I'll note also that you didn't seem nearly as amused by the linked post as I think you would have as an innocent.) Your jumpiness, your panic, is what makes you suspicious, both in the wake of Agan's death and toDay.

I'm still pretty tired, but I'll get back to things in a bit.


x'd with Rikae. Oh, glorious.
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Old 10-15-2014, 01:15 AM   #9
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Rikae - That first comment by me was partially banter, partially me feeling odd about you but having nothing really backing it up, and partially wolf-bait.

Regarding my vote for Mac and the reasoning behind it; I was feeling worst about Inzil and Mac at the time, so I wanted to vote one of them - and since the only reason I could see for the wolves killing Agan was that they thought she was the Seer and had a good opinion of Inzil, I chose to vote Mac.
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Old 10-15-2014, 04:32 AM   #10
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In other words, no pressure.
Yeah, lots to put on you, I know. Hopefully you made a good choice!

++Sally

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Old 10-15-2014, 04:50 AM   #11
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True, but at this point think it matters, considering the votes. Unless Wilwa appears and all three of her, you, and I vote for Inzil, Sally's getting lynched regardless. And I'm not even certain I want to vote Inzil! I'm just bothered by Rikae's vote and I'm not even sure why - no, wait, actually, I just thought of something. Inzil was the first person to vote; it wasn't necessarily mandatory that she jump on his vote at that point; I could easily be wrong here, but I don't recall Rikae being overly suspicious of Sally then. Given that Inzil could be wrong, even as a probably-dreamt ordo, why jump on his vote that quickly?

Not that it matters at this point, of course, considering the options.
I am worried by Rikae's vote, yes. And also by Sally's, in that, as I said, it would have been a very risky one for a wolf who planned on surviving.
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