Ten Year Anniversary Game: Living Thread

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

And with Firefoot gone, I doubt we can orchestrate such a thing again, unless we want to do some sort of wacky tie nonsense (which I'm not keen on for toDay without some convincing).

Whoops. I meant to add that I would make a list if it were not for this.

[Boromir88]

Lalaith? Puzzling.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Here are the legal scrying targets from the previous NIGHT:

Likely to be scried:
Nogrod
phantom
Rikae
Legate
Rune

Less likely/'confirmed' roles:
Loslote
Macalaure
Aganzir

We still have 12 people alive, which means we can ask the role of one of six Dead people with certainty, or some other permutation that would require trimming the message being sent.

We can assign ten of us to the five on the first list, and fit the other three on the second to the last two(?) Any other ideas?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I didn't cross-post with Boro, but I didn't read it past his first paragraph/sentence while composing my list. That changes a lot.

[McCaber]

So if Boro killed Lal, either we're down to one wolfpack or the Ranger made a save.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by McCaber

So if Boro killed Lal, either we're down to one wolfpack or the Ranger made a save.

Or Lottie was pulling our leg and they both targeted Firefoot (and thus Firefoot is innocent). Or Lottie's pack did kill Firefoot, and I was wrong about Lalaith and Firefoot's pack went for Lalaith. (Although, I'm not sure why Lalaith would be a wolf target...they might figure Nerwen would be protected, but why not kill sally? Unless they don't think they can get sally's lover before she returns from the dead)

There's several possibilities that I'm not sure can be answered all today. I hope it's one pack now or a Ranger save, but that might not be the case.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Boro

I offed Mac Night 3 and Lalaith last night

Originally Posted by Boro

Or Lottie's pack did kill Firefoot, and I was wrong about Lalaith and Firefoot's pack went for Lalaith.

Boro, I'm confused... Did you, or did you not, kill Lalaith? And if so, why?

[Thinlómien]

The only vote toDay yet is Kath for Form?

I need to go to sleep soon (I know; I only just came back!), so if anyone's around, which one of Nerwen's options would you prefer?

They were

Form
McCaber
morm
Nilp
Mith
Kath

Personally I'd actually prefer a stab in the dark with Nilp or McCaber, as I said in my list post. The rest of you guys actually seem fairly innocent to me. It's pretty optimistic to think there are only two wolves remaining though...

Argh.

Somebody bring forwards a good argument against somebody? I'm at loss.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by morm

Not sure, but I assume if we don't put a plan together we agree on soon, they won't have time to react.

That's why I suggested continuing Firefoot's scheme as closely as possibly - given that the dead Europeans (*makes a face at Agan if she's reading the living thread*) may well have voted already, they might have gone with Firefoot's scheme since we hadn't come up with a new one. I think I may have muddled it up by removing the phantom though - Nerwen told us only toDay he was innocent, so the dead might well have checked him earlier. But I'm not sure what to change in order not to muddle it up even worse.

#more reasons we should do this earlier toMorrow

[Thinlómien]

If Nog is a wolf, give your extra vote to Form or McCaber
If Nog is innocent, give your extra vote to Lottie or Nerwen
If phantom is a wolf, give your extra vote to Boro
If phantom is innocent, give your extra vote to Lommy
If Rikae is a wolf, give your extra vote to Eomer
If Rikae is innocent, give your extra vote to morm
If Legate is innocent, give your extra vote to Nilp
If Legate is guilty, give your extra vote to Shasta
If Rune is a wolf, give your extra vote to Mith or Kath
If Rune is innocent, give your extra vote to Sally

This way if the dead followed Firefoot's original instructions from yesterDay while voting, we would still get the correct result. (Unless they scried someone who wasn't on the instructions yesterDay, and had to improvise.)

The worst thing about the scheme above is that the dead are going to add a total wild card to the lynch vote toDay.

[Thinlómien]

Okay I need to go very soon. Voting Nilp in 10 minutes unless someone has a very convincing argument or I get magically enlightened while brushing my teeth.

Also I strongly advocate my newer suggestion for the dead thread communication to minimize confusion, as it involves the phantom whom the dead may have checked last Night even though it isn't that helpful to us anymore. (Unless we learn he was a wolf and we need to question everything Nerwen said...?)


edit: xed with Form

[satansaloser2005]

Hello. *whimpers* I'm here.

I'm going to catch up a bit, but the odds of me being terribly useless toDay are slim to none due to work and other plans.

I'll be back in a bit.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Okay I need to go very soon. Voting Nilp in 10 minutes unless someone has a very convincing argument or I get magically enlightened while brushing my teeth.

Also I strongly advocate my newer suggestion for the dead thread communication to minimize confusion, as it involves the phantom whom the dead may have checked last Night even though it isn't that helpful to us anymore. (Unless we learn he was a wolf and we need to question everything Nerwen said...?)


edit: xed with Form

I certainly think a decision should be made and stuck to.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

If Nog is a wolf, give your extra vote to Form or McCaber
If Nog is innocent, give your extra vote to Lottie or Nerwen
If phantom is a wolf, give your extra vote to Boro
If phantom is innocent, give your extra vote to Lommy
If Rikae is a wolf, give your extra vote to Eomer
If Rikae is innocent, give your extra vote to morm
If Legate is innocent, give your extra vote to Nilp
If Legate is guilty, give your extra vote to Shasta
If Rune is a wolf, give your extra vote to Mith or Kath
If Rune is innocent, give your extra vote to Sally

This way if the dead followed Firefoot's original instructions from yesterDay while voting, we would still get the correct result. (Unless they scried someone who wasn't on the instructions yesterDay, and had to improvise.)

The worst thing about the scheme above is that the dead are going to add a total wild card to the lynch vote toDay.

I'm okay with final version...everyone else?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by mormegil

I'm okay with final version...everyone else?

Dropping in long enough to say I'm okay with this.

[Mithalwen]

I am around but a bit uncertain.. well very uncertain really...

I am inclined to trust Nerwen and Boro probably stupid of me but. I pretty much suspect everyone else

. I still can't see what function Sally's reveal served so am inclined not to trust it implicitly. Kath may well be having the week from Mordor but I gave her the benefit of the doubt too long under comparable circumstances and she was an unavoidably absent wolf. Would hate to vote for my boy but while I love him to bits I can't profess to understand or read Nilp.

morm worries me because apart from the notable occasion when he declared me an innocent in a cross post with my bored confession in Saucepan's game, he normally reads me correctly. And unsubstantiated accusations of suspicious posting are.. well suspicious. And of course I know I am not a wolf. The others I am yet to get a handle on... maybe I am just very rusty. But given the timezone compatibility I have had a reist earlier and am now had a usualy ill advised midnight strong coffee... you do realise that I am sacrificing the good worl of six months good "sleep hygiene" after 15 years insomnia for this... oh well self inflicted injury can't expect sympathy.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

morm worries me because apart from the notable occasion when he declared me an innocent in a cross post with my bored confession in Saucepan's game, he normally reads me correctly. And unsubstantiated accusations of suspicious posting are.. well suspicious.

There is a reason I've done that dear Mith and you are somebody I read well. I needed to put some suspicion on you to get a better read. Please forgive the no substance accusations of you, they were necessary for me to know where you stand. I am leaning innocent now based on your reactions.

[Formendacil]

Lommy's reasoning seems to come down to no more than this:

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Personally I'd actually prefer a stab in the dark with Nilp or McCaber, as I said in my list post.

A stab in the dark isn't the worst idea ever--particularly if you weed out the Probable Innocents--but we're not even in a d Day 1 situation of having an idea of what odds that is. Mind you, it's not like we'll know one way or another unless the game comes to a sudden end overNight.

My own preference right now is the vote for Eomer, on the grounds of not being an Innocent and seeming the most suspicious by a slight margin. My main problem with him is along the lines of something Nilp said earlier today:

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

(Also, for what it's worth, this is twice that Eomer's been among the last voters for a lethal bandwaggon. Well, thrice, counting...)

Voting record is the fallback for discerning furriness in a regular game and in the absence of anything else, I'll stick with it here.

Boro also had some concern about him:

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Now yesterday I actually called Eomer "den-dweller" and my idea was to follow my pattern of pet names. I didn't like the way he was talking about lynching the lovers earlier, but I decided rather later to go for Lalaith, because I always still remember Mith's words from being a wolf "don't act like you know so much."

For what it's worth, I can see Eomer being the sort to ignore the sort of advice Boro is quoting of Mith.


Mind you, Nilp raised the same concern about himself--self-deprecating or not, he has a point:

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

I, Nilp, put Agan in a firm lead ahead of Greenie and (more importantly) Mac. So I guess I'd see why you'd say you think Mac and I are Packmates.

X-ed with Sally, Lommy, Eomer, and Lommy.