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Old 06-07-2015, 10:36 PM   #1
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So if Boro killed Lal, either we're down to one wolfpack or the Ranger made a save.
Or Lottie was pulling our leg and they both targeted Firefoot (and thus Firefoot is innocent). Or Lottie's pack did kill Firefoot, and I was wrong about Lalaith and Firefoot's pack went for Lalaith. (Although, I'm not sure why Lalaith would be a wolf target...they might figure Nerwen would be protected, but why not kill sally? Unless they don't think they can get sally's lover before she returns from the dead)

There's several possibilities that I'm not sure can be answered all today. I hope it's one pack now or a Ranger save, but that might not be the case.
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Old 06-07-2015, 10:44 PM   #2
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I offed Mac Night 3 and Lalaith last night
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Or Lottie's pack did kill Firefoot, and I was wrong about Lalaith and Firefoot's pack went for Lalaith.
Boro, I'm confused... Did you, or did you not, kill Lalaith? And if so, why?
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Old 06-07-2015, 10:47 PM   #3
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Boro, I'm confused... Did you, or did you not, kill Lalaith? And if so, why?
It appears that he tried to kill Lal. His powers only seem to work if he targets a wolf, so if she was innocent then it was the wolves who might have killed her instead.
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:04 PM   #4
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Boro, I'm confused... Did you, or did you not, kill Lalaith? And if so, why?
I'm saying I'm responsible for the 3rd kill (Mac) on NIGHT 3, and that I also had a decision to make on to take someone else out last night, and decided Lalaith. But I have no way of confirming whether she's a wolf (and so I would request for the dead to check her on their next chance), or if I was wrong and one pack made the same selection.

I was more confident in the Mac choice, and probably took a bigger gamble with Lalaith. I took a shot at someone who was flying under my radar, but also someone who seemed to know too much, but I judged she wasn't the seer.
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Old 06-08-2015, 12:12 AM   #5
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I just wanted to repost this exchange between Eomer and myself yesterDay, prior to my startling revelation.
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The Legate-as-Seer theory, based on his Day 2 list, needs to be checked against his Day 1 list.

Green was the sole serious suspect both days.

Nerwen, Lommy and Mith were alone as innocents on Day 2, but were all in the innocent pile on Day 1 as well - along with a bunch of other people. So if Legate is the Seer, did he dream Green on the first night? Why then would he spend both his dreams on people he found innocent? Very unlikely. On the other hand, he might have just got very lucky (or is very good at hunting!) in focusing on Green on Day 1 and confirming his correct suspicion the next night. This is more likely but still a bit of a long shot.

Rikae's focus on Loslote on Day 2 seems more Seerish. She puts great effort into making a case against her (#338) while couching in the post prior that she wanted to take a closer look at Loslote and Firefoot. Interestingly, in that post (#325) she mentions exactly three names as innocents: Agan, Mac and Morm.
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Just popping in to say I'm not particularly happy with the options at the moment. I don't have much time but how do others feel about Firefoot, and about Lottie? These loud, controversial people - Agan, Mac - seem less and less wolfish to me, and I don't see much of a case against Morm.
The comment about Morm does sound rather like classic seer-phrasing, but I'm not so sure about the rest. Though, Rikae was very strongly against lynching Agan on Day One, to the extent of voting Lommy for "fabricating" a case against her- that could mean something.
Now, at this point I had not yet decided what to do with the knowledge I had been given, and was more concerned about letting the village consider the late unlamented Macwolf a dreamed innocent. But Eomer does have a point- naming those three as looking innocent *could* have looked like a hint- but only to a pack that did not contain Macalaure.Now Lottiewolf says that Mac was one of her rivals, and that it was his pack, not hers, that killed Rikae. Doesn't really add up- unless we assume, as she seemingly did, that Firefoot was a wolf and that it was *only* the comment about her to which the other pack reacted, and not the comments about Agan, Morm, Mac or herself.
I think we should consider the possibility that either Lottie switched the kills in her accusation of Firefoot and that it was Lottie's pack who killed tp and Rikae, or that Mac was her fellow.
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Old 06-08-2015, 12:54 AM   #6
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I'm saying I'm responsible for the 3rd kill (Mac) on NIGHT 3, and that I also had a decision to make on to take someone else out last night, and decided Lalaith. But I have no way of confirming whether she's a wolf (and so I would request for the dead to check her on their next chance), or if I was wrong and one pack made the same selection.

I was more confident in the Mac choice, and probably took a bigger gamble with Lalaith. I took a shot at someone who was flying under my radar, but also someone who seemed to know too much, but I judged she wasn't the seer.
It is quite possible, though, that I was targeted. I haven't told you *everything* yet...

Anyway, for the moment I suggest we re-read Lalaith through wolf-coloured glasses and see where that gets us (if anywhere).
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Reminding Mith of another instance of itching in the books, in this case Perrin's itching palms for the Palantir.
Perrin? Perrin?
Your Tolkien license is revoked, McCaber!
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Oh man I am a fool. I'm in the middle of a Wheel of Time reread and I guess I just don't know what I was thinking. Obviously I meant to say young Peregrin. Mea culpa.

Nerwen, did you get any more helpful PMs last night?

And Boro, were you able to do anything after Day 1, or was killing Mac the first special thing you did? Because man, if you work like a vigilante seer that would blow this game wide open.
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Oh man I am a fool. I'm in the middle of a Wheel of Time reread and I guess I just don't know what I was thinking. Obviously I meant to say young Peregrin. Mea culpa.

Nerwen, did you get any more helpful PMs last night?
I did, but it was *really* weird this time- an actual riddle! I'm not going to say anything more just yet- anyway there's still parts I'm trying to work out.
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Well I did wonder if there had been a ranger save even before Boromir revealed his need for a flea collar. As far as I can see there is no advantage to wolves killing a lover. They won't want the village to get more concrete information and they will want us to waste a lynch on an innocent for it.

Very perplexed by Kath's desperate stream of posts last thing last night not sure what is the most plausible explanation... had really found her suspicious but can't help thinking a wolf reengaging with the game would have tried to play it cooler.. anyway aware of crossposts so will post and read..
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I'm saying I'm responsible for the 3rd kill (Mac) on NIGHT 3, and that I also had a decision to make on to take someone else out last night, and decided Lalaith. But I have no way of confirming whether she's a wolf (and so I would request for the dead to check her on their next chance), or if I was wrong and one pack made the same selection.

I was more confident in the Mac choice, and probably took a bigger gamble with Lalaith. I took a shot at someone who was flying under my radar, but also someone who seemed to know too much, but I judged she wasn't the seer.
I wake up to read Boro's reveal!

I want to trust that you will reveal what will be helpful to us but please understand if the powers your wield make me slightly nervous. It seems you can pick a target you suspect and strike at them. My greatest fear on that is it's been one man's opinion as to who to take out without any sure knowledge or even quick way to check the results.

I applaud you for exercising caution on Night 1. I think similar caution should be exercised, else you become a pawn of the wolves. I can understand the Mac kill as I suspected him and we've since been able to confirm with identity with Nerwen. With that said I do think those powers are relatively safe in your hands. I think you are shrewd in judgement but you understand my concerns. Also, would you share why you suspected Lalaith? She seemed innocent to me.

Like Form, I would like to understand more about your powers to make sure you have the best intentions of the village in mind but then I need to trust your judgement on what you should reveal or not. There's a balance you are walking, I'm sure.

I guess I get to check Boro off my suspect list.

So the top 5 suspects on my list today are Nilp, Eomer, Form, Mith, and Shasta in that order.

We have 3 known innocents in Sally, Nerwen and Boro out of 12 total...not bad actually.

Lommy and Kath have been silent today, not sure if it means anything but it's note worthy. A wolf may be a bit silent after the craziness of the last 2 Days...although it looks like all the loud mouths are in the Dead Thread...have you seen the count?
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