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Aganzir · 06-08-2015, 02:21 PM

DAY 1 and 2 opinions separated by |||, DAY 2 and 3 by ///
Brackets indicate a vague/changing opinion
Known wolves underlined. Confirmed innocents italicised (yeah, only those we've found out here, just to be on the safe side.

NIGHT 2 VICTIMS

phantom suspected: Nogrod, Lottie, Mac, Firefoot
phantom found innocent: Aganzir, Boro, sally, Nilp

Rune suspected: Greenie
Rune found innocent: (Form)

**

NIGHT 3 VICTIMS

Macalaure suspected: Aganzir ||| Aganzir, (Legate,) Firefoot, Form, sally, Lottie
Macalaure found innocent: Rikae, Firefoot, Nilp, Legate, Greenie ||| Rikae, Legate morm, Eomer, Lommy, Lalaith, Mith

Rikae suspected: Lommy, Greenie, Mac, phantom ||| Greenie, Firefoot, Lottie
Rikae found innocent: ||| Agan, Mac, morm, (Firefoot)

Legate suspected: Greenie ||| Greenie, Boro, Firefoot, Lottie, Aganzir, (mentioned earlier but later put on his second-best zone: sally, McCab, Mac)
Legate found innocent: (Nog, Lommy, Form, Kath, Shasta, morm, Mith, Rune, Nerwen) ||| Nerwen, Lommy, Mith

**

NIGHT 4 VICTIMS

Firefoot suspected: (Lommy) ||| Lottie, Mac, McC, (Rikae), (Eomer, Shasta, sally - potentially suspicious for the Nogwagon) /// Boro, Lottie
Firefoot found innocent: (Nog) ||| Nerwen, Form, Rikae, morm, Boro, Shasta, Eomer, (Greenie, Agan) /// morm

Lalaith suspected: Legate ||| Aganzir, (Legate, Boro, Mac) /// Lottie, Mac
Lalaith found innocent: ||| Greenie, Nerwen, Lottie /// Firefoot, (Lommy, Nerwen, Mith - assuming Legate as the seer thesis was correct), (Eomer - didn't really say he was innocent, just that he had good points more than once)

**

Can't conclude much from NIGHT 4 though. I also included Lalaith even if there's reason to believe she was killed by Boro while the ranger blocked the Fang pack tonight. It seems the Grip pack killed Firefoot as per Lottie's instructions - I'm inclined to agree with whoever said Lottie believed her the Seer and tried to paint her as a rival wolf to discourage the Ranger.

However, there are a lot of leads back to Boro - both Legate and Firefoot (and Lalaith) suspected him. And as I said yesterday, everybody except Rune out of the first 5 victims suspected Firefoot as well.
If neither is a wolf, the remaining few are doing a good job slipping under the radar.

Aganzir · 06-11-2015, 06:16 AM

DAY 1 and 2 opinions separated by |||, DAY 2 and 3 by ///
Brackets indicate a vague/changing opinion
Known wolves underlined. Confirmed innocents italicised. Unknowns bolded for easier reading.

NIGHT 2 VICTIMS

phantom suspected: Nogrod, Lottie, Mac, Firefoot
phantom found innocent: Aganzir, Boro, sally, Nilp

Rune suspected: Greenie
Rune found innocent: (Form)

**

NIGHT 3 VICTIMS

Macalaure (KILLED BY BORO) suspected: Aganzir ||| Aganzir, (Legate,) Firefoot, Form, sally, Lottie
Macalaure found innocent: Rikae, Firefoot, Nilp, Legate, Greenie ||| Rikae, Legate, morm, Eomer, Lommy, Lalaith, Mith

Rikae suspected: Lommy, Greenie, Mac, phantom ||| Greenie, Firefoot, Lottie
Rikae found innocent: ||| Agan, Mac, morm, (Firefoot)

Legate suspected: Greenie ||| Greenie, Boro, Firefoot, Lottie, Aganzir, (mentioned earlier but later put on his second-best zone: sally, McCab, Mac)
Legate found innocent: (Nog, Lommy, Form, Kath, Shasta, morm, Mith, Rune, Nerwen) ||| Nerwen, Lommy, Mith

**

NIGHT 4 VICTIMS

Firefoot (KILLED BY GRIP) suspected: (Lommy) ||| Lottie, Mac, McC, (Rikae), (Eomer, Shasta, sally - potentially suspicious for the Nogwagon) /// Boro, Lottie
Firefoot found innocent: (Nog) ||| Nerwen, Form, Rikae, morm, Boro, Shasta, Eomer, (Greenie, Agan) /// morm

Lalaith (KILLED BY BORO) suspected: Legate ||| Aganzir, (Legate, Boro, Mac) /// Lottie, Mac
Lalaith found innocent: ||| Greenie, Nerwen, Lottie /// Firefoot, (Lommy, Nerwen, Mith - assuming Legate as the seer thesis was correct), (Eomer - didn't really say he was innocent, just that he had good points more than once)

(Nerwen presumably targeted by FANG.)

**

NIGHT 5 VICTIMS

Nerwen (KILLED PRESUMABLY BY BOTH FANG AND GRIP)

**

Need to look at morm and Lalaith's posts to find the third wolf. It would really help if we knew which kills they were responsible for. As I said before, a lot of traces back to Boro but not sure I want to start doubting him right now.

Also folks - remember that if Nilp survives toNIGHT, the more information we have for him the better.

That being said I need to get back to work, but I should actually be around in the evening.

06-08-2015, 02:21 PM	#1
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	DAY 1 and 2 opinions separated by \|\|\|, DAY 2 and 3 by /// Brackets indicate a vague/changing opinion Known wolves underlined. Confirmed innocents italicised (yeah, only those we've found out here, just to be on the safe side. NIGHT 2 VICTIMS phantom suspected: Nogrod, Lottie, Mac, Firefoot phantom found innocent: Aganzir, Boro, sally, Nilp Rune suspected: Greenie Rune found innocent: (Form) NIGHT 3 VICTIMS Macalaure** suspected: Aganzir \|\|\| Aganzir, (Legate,) Firefoot, Form, sally, Lottie Macalaure found innocent: Rikae, Firefoot, Nilp, Legate, Greenie \|\|\| Rikae, Legate morm, Eomer, Lommy, Lalaith, Mith Rikae suspected: Lommy, Greenie, Mac, phantom \|\|\| Greenie, Firefoot, Lottie Rikae found innocent: \|\|\| Agan, Mac, morm, (Firefoot) Legate suspected: Greenie \|\|\| Greenie, Boro, Firefoot, Lottie, Aganzir, (mentioned earlier but later put on his second-best zone: sally, McCab, Mac) Legate found innocent: (Nog, Lommy, Form, Kath, Shasta, morm, Mith, Rune, Nerwen) \|\|\| Nerwen, Lommy, Mith NIGHT 4 VICTIMS Firefoot suspected: (Lommy) \|\|\| Lottie, Mac, McC, (Rikae), (Eomer, Shasta, sally - potentially suspicious for the Nogwagon) /// Boro, Lottie Firefoot** found innocent: (Nog) \|\|\| Nerwen, Form, Rikae, morm, Boro, Shasta, Eomer, (Greenie, Agan) /// morm Lalaith suspected: Legate \|\|\| Aganzir, (Legate, Boro, Mac) /// Lottie, Mac Lalaith found innocent: \|\|\| Greenie, Nerwen, Lottie /// Firefoot, (Lommy, Nerwen, Mith - assuming Legate as the seer thesis was correct), (Eomer - didn't really say he was innocent, just that he had good points more than once) Can't conclude much from NIGHT 4 though. I also included Lalaith even if there's reason to believe she was killed by Boro while the ranger blocked the Fang pack tonight. It seems the Grip pack killed Firefoot as per Lottie's instructions - I'm inclined to agree with whoever said Lottie believed her the Seer and tried to paint her as a rival wolf to discourage the Ranger. However, there are a lot of leads back to Boro - both Legate and Firefoot (and Lalaith) suspected him. And as I said yesterday, everybody except Rune out of the first 5 victims suspected Firefoot** as well. If neither is a wolf, the remaining few are doing a good job slipping under the radar. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

06-11-2015, 06:16 AM	#2
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	DAY 1 and 2 opinions separated by \|\|\|, DAY 2 and 3 by /// Brackets indicate a vague/changing opinion Known wolves underlined. Confirmed innocents italicised. Unknowns bolded for easier reading. NIGHT 2 VICTIMS phantom suspected: Nogrod, Lottie, Mac, Firefoot phantom found innocent: Aganzir, Boro, sally, Nilp Rune suspected: Greenie Rune found innocent: (Form) NIGHT 3 VICTIMS Macalaure** (KILLED BY BORO) suspected: Aganzir \|\|\| Aganzir, (Legate,) Firefoot, Form, sally, Lottie Macalaure found innocent: Rikae, Firefoot, Nilp, Legate, Greenie \|\|\| Rikae, Legate, morm, Eomer, Lommy, Lalaith, Mith Rikae suspected: Lommy, Greenie, Mac, phantom \|\|\| Greenie, Firefoot, Lottie Rikae found innocent: \|\|\| Agan, Mac, morm, (Firefoot) Legate suspected: Greenie \|\|\| Greenie, Boro, Firefoot, Lottie, Aganzir, (mentioned earlier but later put on his second-best zone: sally, McCab, Mac) Legate found innocent: (Nog, Lommy, Form, Kath, Shasta, morm, Mith, Rune, Nerwen) \|\|\| Nerwen, Lommy, Mith NIGHT 4 VICTIMS Firefoot** (KILLED BY GRIP) suspected: (Lommy) \|\|\| Lottie, Mac, McC, (Rikae), (Eomer, Shasta, sally - potentially suspicious for the Nogwagon) /// Boro, Lottie Firefoot found innocent: (Nog) \|\|\| Nerwen, Form, Rikae, morm, Boro, Shasta, Eomer, (Greenie, Agan) /// morm Lalaith (KILLED BY BORO) suspected: Legate \|\|\| Aganzir, (Legate, Boro, Mac) /// Lottie, Mac Lalaith found innocent: \|\|\| Greenie, Nerwen, Lottie /// Firefoot, (Lommy, Nerwen, Mith - assuming Legate as the seer thesis was correct), (Eomer - didn't really say he was innocent, just that he had good points more than once) (Nerwen presumably targeted by FANG.) NIGHT 5 VICTIMS Nerwen (KILLED PRESUMABLY BY BOTH FANG AND GRIP) Need to look at morm and Lalaith's posts to find the third wolf. It would really help if we knew which kills they were responsible for. As I said before, a lot of traces back to Boro but not sure I want to start doubting him right now. Also folks - remember that if Nilp survives toNIGHT, the more information we have for him the better. That being said I need to get back to work, but I should actually be around in the evening. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.