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Old 06-12-2015, 05:25 PM   #1
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I as well, and... hm. I'm not really sure what to think at the moment, though I admit Mith is convincing.

That and something about the post where McCaber votes Mith prickled the hairs on the back of my neck.
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Old 06-12-2015, 05:33 PM   #2
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Well, let's see. Kath being fine with self-voting, as Mith pointed out, doesn't really set well as a last-wolf-standing kind of ploy.

I think someone (Lommy, maybe) mentioned yesterday about voting for those unknowns that didn't vote for themselves today, but honestly I can't really blame anyone for not doing it (I wouldn't really want to either.)

Also, voting for self-preservation is fairly reasonable, considering. Given that it's Mith versus McCaber today, I think that's another point in Kath's favor, even given what Nilp said about her earlier.

Hmm...
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Old 06-12-2015, 05:39 PM   #3
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I as well, and... hm. I'm not really sure what to think at the moment, though I admit Mith is convincing.

That and something about the post where McCaber votes Mith prickled the hairs on the back of my neck.
See, my main argument is that Cab wouldn't have let me live if he suspected Nilp was my lover. Why not take a shot at me?

And consider Mith's proposal of letting herself be modfired as long as McCaber dies. She didn't go through with it. I mean, clearly it was an absurd idea, as having an innocent modfired doesn't do any service for the village, but she didn't even follow through. In fact, hers was the first vote. I don't think she ever had the intention of letting her suggestion happen. Even if we'd have lynched McCaber for her, she would have voted to protect herself. It's just smoother to "reconsider" and do it earlier than to do it near the deadline.

I guess what I'm saying here is I have way more reasons to trust McCaber than I do Mith. She criticizes the actions of others, yet expects no one to find hers suspicious, which is, well, suspicious.


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Old 06-12-2015, 05:45 PM   #4
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See, my main argument is that Cab wouldn't have let me live if he suspected Nilp was my lover. Why not take a shot at me?

And consider Mith's proposal of letting herself be modfired as long as McCaber dies. She didn't go through with it. I mean, clearly it was an absurd idea, as having an innocent modfired doesn't do any service for the village, but she didn't even follow through. In fact, hers was the first vote. I don't think she ever had the intention of letting her suggestion happen. Even if we'd have lynched McCaber for her, she would have voted to protect herself. It's just smoother to "reconsider" and do it earlier than to do it near the deadline.

I guess what I'm saying here is I have way more reasons to trust McCaber than I do Mith. She criticizes the actions of others, yet expects no one to find hers suspicious, which is, well, suspicious.


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It sounds to me as though you'd have found Mith suspicious whether or not she'd gone through with being modfired, or at least that's the way you've come across here.

In any case, you did ask to be protected the night before Nilp came back. Maybe that's why a Cabwolf elected to aim his fangs elsewhere?
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Old 06-12-2015, 06:10 PM   #5
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In any case, you did ask to be protected the night before Nilp came back. Maybe that's why a Cabwolf elected to aim his fangs elsewhere?
It's entirely possible. I've considered it off and on, but it doesn't seem very WolfCaber to me. Especially as a last wolf, he would have to try to make the biggest impact possible.

McCaber's self-preservation seems less last wolf standing than Mith's somewhat sudden hesitation to sacrifice herself. She could have taken that risk yesterDay, but if I'm right, doing so toDay would cost her the game, so a convenient change of mind would suit a lone wolf.

If Mith were innocent and believed McCaber to be the last wolf, why would she not do as she said? As I said, it would be unnecessary to make such a sacrifice, but if she truly believed it would end the game, why would she have the need to vote after all? She could have made more of an effort to convince us of his guilt, but instead she went for the safer option. Sure, she offered an explanation, but every wolf has an explanation for her actions.

Honestly though, as much as I prefer Mith as a candidate, I would be totally okay with tying them and letting the dead decide, assuming we think we can get away with that.
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Old 06-12-2015, 06:18 PM   #6
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It's entirely possible. I've considered it off and on, but it doesn't seem very WolfCaber to me. Especially as a last wolf, he would have to try to make the biggest impact possible.

McCaber's self-preservation seems less last wolf standing than Mith's somewhat sudden hesitation to sacrifice herself. She could have taken that risk yesterDay, but if I'm right, doing so toDay would cost her the game, so a convenient change of mind would suit a lone wolf.

If Mith were innocent and believed McCaber to be the last wolf, why would she not do as she said? As I said, it would be unnecessary to make such a sacrifice, but if she truly believed it would end the game, why would she have the need to vote after all? She could have made more of an effort to convince us of his guilt, but instead she went for the safer option. Sure, she offered an explanation, but every wolf has an explanation for her actions.

Honestly though, as much as I prefer Mith as a candidate, I would be totally okay with tying them and letting the dead decide, assuming we think we can get away with that.
With half the votes already in, that should be doable, and I'd be up for it as well. So far we have -

Boro - McCaber (Cab1)
Mith - McCaber (Cab2)
McCaber - Mith (Cab2, Mith1)


with Sally, Shasta, Kath, and Nilp left to vote. Two of us vote Mith, one votes McCaber, one abstains (provided Kath will be around to vote.) I'm not sure if Nilp will be back to vote or not, so he'd likely be the abstention in this scenario. Thoughts?
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I'm not sure if Nilp will be back to vote or not, so he'd likely be the abstention in this scenario. Thoughts?
I don't believe my beloved will be around much.
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Old 06-12-2015, 06:26 PM   #8
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Because of the boromir factor of course. I believe totally that McCaber is the last wolf. I am certain that I am not. I believe that getting McCaber as last wolf ends the game but it isn't impossible that Boro can win as a lone agent. In that scenario an extra bod might be useful.

Remember that if you tie the votes you are abdicating the decision to the dead who have four known stateside wolves... while all those known innocent Europeans may well have gone to bed. Interesting choice.
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Old 06-12-2015, 06:33 PM   #9
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Honestly, I'm leaning more towards McCaber myself, but Sally does have good points about it possibly being Mith.

I wonder where Kath is?
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Shasta, consider if McCaber were an injured innocent playing for the team, would he not have considered voting Kath rather than simple retaliation? And if
I were a wolf why on earth wouldn't I have gone after absent Kath instead of voicing suspicions of morm and form one at least of whom would have been a packmate.?
Anyway on current form I am about to drop off.. so.

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Actually I explicitly said I expected to be found suspicious and why to morm yesterday
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And the reason I offered to be modfired was because I was sufficiently confident about McCaber to think it wouldn't matter. But given that McCaber was regarded as too helpful to be a wolf I didn't think youd take me up on it and I tried to work out the outs and realised that I had better give that idea up. The agreement with Boro was borne of necessity as is probably clear from the conversation.
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