Hard Winters Planning/Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 06-23-2015, 02:31 PM

I heard from Celuien and sadly she said she feels not able to join us, but she said, that if she has time in the future she'd rather then take a visiting character...

That means the destiny of Garstan and his children are in our hands.

I talked about it with Foley on our way to the airport this morning and with Lommy later on the day, and we were kind of starting to favor the idea that Garstan could have died during the winter (giving his share of scarce food to his children and working like a bull to benefit others) and then getting a fever or something with an already weak body etc.

That would add a lot of drama with the two children being orphaned by the winter and most probably being adopted by Stigend and Modtryth. We were already discussing the possible reactions of the children with Lommy: Garmund (now a teenager) would react violently not taking orders from Stigend as he is "not my dad - and you can't boss me around" and Leodthern (now 9 years old) might turn on blaming herself for his dad's death ("Why did I eat the stuff he gave me and now he's dead because of my selfishness!")... and Leodthern has also lost her idol Ginna, so we'd have a lot of drama for the kids on offer.

And in the end, Garstan was a nice chap - like Stigend they both are this kind of jovial, nice, dutiful, responsible professionals who always do the right thing etc. so losing him wouldn't be that much of a loss writing-wise as in the end (of our writing) Garstan and Stigend became to resemble each other a lot anyway.

Another thought on people who might have suffered or even died... how about the old Raban? The old master who was given the task of teaching Javan how to make a chainmail as a punishment / lesson to be learned (holding your temper, concentrating, learning patience, learning new skills...) by lord Athanar? He was old and weak already then - so he could be one of our named victims of the harsh winter as well?

Would Javan think of him as "good riddance" or start to mourn for him - or just learn something of his sudden disappearance?

Nice to see the wheels rolling!

PS. / ADD: The thought just came to me: if you Foley think Raban and Javan would have built something like a true connection it might be he didn't leave with Athanar's retinue before the winter as he thought he could teach this young lad a thing or two (and didn't find any foreseeable interesting challenges for his age otherwise) and saw his place there at the Mead Hall - and then died with the malnourishment and cold... It might add an interesting twist to Javan's character being forced to part with a good adult friend - or at least a person he would have learned to admire or at least to approve of? What do you think Foley?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-23-2015, 03:56 PM

Really nice to see this rolling!

A disclaimer from my part - I have posted for both of my characters with the knowledge that I am now going to be probably without internet access for almost two weeks, so I did not feel like starting to engage them outright in a direct dialogue with someone. But if anyone wishes to utilise any of my characters in the background of their posts, feel free to do so: their place is kind of given, and if you wish, you can let them respond to a thing or two if it is useful for your posts (Firefoot, for instance?). (Hilderinc's right arm is a bit unsteady from his recent wound, so if you wish to have somebody drop something while unloading the carts, or any similar small accident just to add to the dynamics, you have my permission to use that as well.) Otherwise, they can be just expected to do whatever everyone else is doing.

Btw - Nogrod, you mentioned Frodides in your post, so how is it with her and Kara, are they both here and alive? (I was originally planning to include the names of some of the kitchen women in my post for Stefnu, but then I realised I am not certain about their presence or absence, so I let that be.)

Pio - I noticed in the list of characters, you still have "Áforglaed+wife" under my name, of course the "wife" in question would (eventually, possibly) be Stefnu; I just want to give it free development and a bit of time. So if you can just format it appropriately in some way so that it isn't confusing

Anyway, looking forward to more posts once I am back, everything so far looks great!
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Changed Player/Character list Áforglaed is now fancy free

~*~ Pio

Nogrod · 06-23-2015, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Btw - Nogrod, you mentioned Frodides in your post, so how is it with her and Kara, are they both here and alive? (I was originally planning to include the names of some of the kitchen women in my post for Stefnu, but then I realised I am not certain about their presence or absence, so I let that be.)

I thought I heard Kath was coming along and just ran into the conclusion that both of them are alive... We'll see, I can edit that post if it turns out Frodides is not around any more.

On another related issue: I made the post kind of presupposing that Garstan is dead, but the post also makes sense if he is still alive or has just disappeared like Ginna. So I'm not claiming he should be dead... Let's think about that together before establishing how it is with him.

I thought also Stigend was kind of introduced weirdly as: will be occasionally mentioned/brought in by another character, which he certainly is not. I mean he's my only character (one that is only mine) at the moment and I'd like to keep it that way.

But that's no problem. We can change it in time.

Snowdog · 06-23-2015, 04:47 PM

Wow... this really took off fast! I've been flat out at work and had no desire to spend my evening hours on a computer, so I'll work Halcwyn in by this weekend. If I get a break later this week, it will be sooner. Great posts so far everyone!

littlemanpoet · 06-23-2015, 08:18 PM

Nogrod, I like your ideas as to who does not survive the first hard winter.

I think that Rowenna will have come through this hard winter in fairly good condition, having learned dire survival skills among the brigands. She will, of course, be underweight, but pretty much well in body and mind.

piosenniel · 06-23-2015, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

I thought also Stigend was kind of introduced weirdly as: will be occasionally mentioned/brought in by another character, which he certainly is not. I mean he's my only character (one that is only mine) at the moment and I'd like to keep it that way.

But that's no problem. We can change it in time.

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The Stigend addendum is changed now.

~*~ Pio

piosenniel · 06-23-2015, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Pio - I noticed in the list of characters, you still have "Áforglaed+wife" under my name, of course the "wife" in question would (eventually, possibly) be Stefnu; I just want to give it free development and a bit of time. So if you can just format it appropriately in some way so that it isn't confusing

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Changed Player/Character list Áforglaed is now fancy free

~*~ Pio

06-23-2015, 02:31 PM	#1
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	I heard from Celuien and sadly she said she feels not able to join us, but she said, that if she has time in the future she'd rather then take a visiting character... That means the destiny of Garstan and his children are in our hands. I talked about it with Foley on our way to the airport this morning and with Lommy later on the day, and we were kind of starting to favor the idea that Garstan could have died during the winter (giving his share of scarce food to his children and working like a bull to benefit others) and then getting a fever or something with an already weak body etc. That would add a lot of drama with the two children being orphaned by the winter and most probably being adopted by Stigend and Modtryth. We were already discussing the possible reactions of the children with Lommy: Garmund (now a teenager) would react violently not taking orders from Stigend as he is "not my dad - and you can't boss me around" and Leodthern (now 9 years old) might turn on blaming herself for his dad's death ("Why did I eat the stuff he gave me and now he's dead because of my selfishness!")... and Leodthern has also lost her idol Ginna, so we'd have a lot of drama for the kids on offer. And in the end, Garstan was a nice chap - like Stigend they both are this kind of jovial, nice, dutiful, responsible professionals who always do the right thing etc. so losing him wouldn't be that much of a loss writing-wise as in the end (of our writing) Garstan and Stigend became to resemble each other a lot anyway. Another thought on people who might have suffered or even died... how about the old Raban? The old master who was given the task of teaching Javan how to make a chainmail as a punishment / lesson to be learned (holding your temper, concentrating, learning patience, learning new skills...) by lord Athanar? He was old and weak already then - so he could be one of our named victims of the harsh winter as well? Would Javan think of him as "good riddance" or start to mourn for him - or just learn something of his sudden disappearance? Nice to see the wheels rolling! PS. / ADD: The thought just came to me: if you Foley think Raban and Javan would have built something like a true connection it might be he didn't leave with Athanar's retinue before the winter as he thought he could teach this young lad a thing or two (and didn't find any foreseeable interesting challenges for his age otherwise) and saw his place there at the Mead Hall - and then died with the malnourishment and cold... It might add an interesting twist to Javan's character being forced to part with a good adult friend - or at least a person he would have learned to admire or at least to approve of? What do you think Foley? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 06-23-2015 at 02:38 PM.

06-23-2015, 03:56 PM	#2
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Really nice to see this rolling! A disclaimer from my part - I have posted for both of my characters with the knowledge that I am now going to be probably without internet access for almost two weeks, so I did not feel like starting to engage them outright in a direct dialogue with someone. But if anyone wishes to utilise any of my characters in the background of their posts, feel free to do so: their place is kind of given, and if you wish, you can let them respond to a thing or two if it is useful for your posts (Firefoot, for instance?). (Hilderinc's right arm is a bit unsteady from his recent wound, so if you wish to have somebody drop something while unloading the carts, or any similar small accident just to add to the dynamics, you have my permission to use that as well.) Otherwise, they can be just expected to do whatever everyone else is doing. Btw - Nogrod, you mentioned Frodides in your post, so how is it with her and Kara, are they both here and alive? (I was originally planning to include the names of some of the kitchen women in my post for Stefnu, but then I realised I am not certain about their presence or absence, so I let that be.) Pio - I noticed in the list of characters, you still have "Áforglaed+wife" under my name, of course the "wife" in question would (eventually, possibly) be Stefnu; I just want to give it free development and a bit of time. So if you can just format it appropriately in some way so that it isn't confusing Anyway, looking forward to more posts once I am back, everything so far looks great! _________________________________ Changed Player/Character list Áforglaed is now fancy free ~~ Pio __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories Last edited by piosenniel; 06-23-2015 at 08:21 PM.*

06-23-2015, 04:47 PM	#4
Snowdog Emperor of the South Pole Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Western Shore of Lake Evendim Posts: 662	Wow... this really took off fast! I've been flat out at work and had no desire to spend my evening hours on a computer, so I'll work Halcwyn in by this weekend. If I get a break later this week, it will be sooner. Great posts so far everyone!

06-23-2015, 08:18 PM	#5
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Nogrod, I like your ideas as to who does not survive the first hard winter. I think that Rowenna will have come through this hard winter in fairly good condition, having learned dire survival skills among the brigands. She will, of course, be underweight, but pretty much well in body and mind.