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Huinesoron · 06-11-2019, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Fastred of Greenholm
Lily Brown
Bell Goodchild

... and no other named characters.

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Originally Posted by Urwen

They were all mentioned in Red Book of Westmarch?

hS

Urwen · 06-11-2019, 08:41 AM

And this document was written by Sam?

Huinesoron · 06-11-2019, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

And this document was written by Sam?

Er. Hmm.

Okay, apparently the answer is no; it (in its final form) postdates him. (And no, I don't mean 'by several thousand years because it was written by Tolkien'

)

The answer is in two parts: "They all appear in _____, and have ______."

hS

Pervinca Took · 06-13-2019, 06:34 AM

I wonder if this is something to do with founding a new surname, or bringing people into the world who do. (Fairbairn, Gardner). But I can't make it work. The same would be true of the Gaffer and Tolman Cotton.

Ah ... missed the clue.

They all appear in the Appendix of Family Trees

and

...

They all marry a descendant of someone? Someone high up the Gamwich tree?

...

No. Faramir Took does that as well.

Huinesoron · 06-13-2019, 07:10 AM

So what is the difference between these three and Faramir Took?

hS

Pervinca Took · 06-13-2019, 10:12 AM

I don't know. I think only the 10 day rule can save us on this one.

Goodchild was a surname JRRT considered for Sam.

Did he consider Brown and Fairbairn as surnames for different or more important characters as well?

Huinesoron · 06-14-2019, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

I don't know. I think only the 10 day rule can save us on this one.

I mean, if you feel like ignoring the thread for a week and a half, um... feel free? It's not actually that hard, though. There's a very specific, named document in which all three appear - which is their only appearance - and what they have in common is what visibly distinguishes them from the other people in that document.

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Goodchild was a surname JRRT considered for Sam.

Did he consider Brown and Fairbairn as surnames for different or more important characters as well?

Not so far as I know.

hS

Pervinca Took · 06-14-2019, 02:43 AM

That's the thing ... I'd guess something like the King's letter to Samwise, but it's after Bell's time. Lily is probably still alive ... but if they're mentioned there in a 'son of' and 'daughter of' capacity for Sam and Rose, it would be unusual to either not name the other parent or to name the mothers instead of the fathers. Also, why would the King mention Fastred when I believe Elanor is still a child, although not a young one?

Was I right about the 'they are in' being a family tree/trees?

Pervinca Took · 06-14-2019, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron

I mean, if you feel like ignoring the thread for a week and a half, um... feel free? It's not actually that hard, though. There's a very specific, named document in which all three appear - which is their only appearance - and what they have in common is what visibly distinguishes them from the other people in that document.

Not so far as I know.

hS

I didn't mean to complain. It's just that the answers to my current password would work in this thread, and I wanted to drop them in here once the last one is guessed.

Well, all 3 appear on the Longfather Tree of Master Samwise. Is that the document?

I wish I could say they're the only 3 spouses mentioned, but 6 marriages are indicated on that document.

... whoops ... there are 7! Hob and Rowan. Rowan must have been a girl, then, unless the Shire was more forward-thinking than we thought.

Pervinca Took · 06-14-2019, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron

I mean, if you feel like ignoring the thread for a week and a half, um... feel free? It's not actually that hard, though. There's a very specific, named document in which all three appear - which is their only appearance - and what they have in common is what visibly distinguishes them from the other people in that document.

Not so far as I know.

hS

It may be the only document where all three appear, but Fastred must appear somewhere else, or we wouldn't know that his children were Elfstan and Firiel ... unless only Elanor is named as parent in this other source.

Pervinca Took · 06-14-2019, 03:34 AM

How about this?

They all appear in the Longfather Tree of Master Samwise

AND

They all three have a unique surname.

1. Bell is the only 'real' Goodchild ever mentioned (Christopher wouldn't let his dad make Sam a Goodchild ... so that was never *really* a character).
2. Lily Brown is the only Brown ever mentioned.
3. Fastred is the only 'of Greenholm' (is that a surname, like the Dutch ''Van" or the French "De?"), because his children and wife, and he himself, (supposedly upon his marriage), took the name of Fairbairn.

Huinesoron · 06-14-2019, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

How about this?

They all appear in the Longfather Tree of Master Samwise

AND

They all three have a unique surname.

1. Bell is the only 'real' Goodchild ever mentioned (Christopher wouldn't let his dad make Sam a Goodchild ... so that was never *really* a character).
2. Lily Brown is the only Brown ever mentioned.
3. Fastred is the only 'of Greenholm' (is that a surname, like the Dutch ''Van" or the French "De?"), because his children and wife, and he himself, (supposedly upon his marriage), took the name of Fairbairn.

Correct!

The Longfather Tree is the document I was looking for. I was phrasing the other part as 'they are the only person from their [birth] family ever named', but it comes to the same thing.

Well done to both of you - Urwen got tantalisingly close - and over to Pervinca.

hS

Pervinca Took · 06-14-2019, 04:20 AM

OK. I am using the answers and password from my last password puzzle, for which I am not willing to give away the theme until at least a couple of people have had a go at guessing.

With one caveat, which I will defend, I believe these are the only known characters to whom this applies. It's something that I would say is rarer in Tolkien's works than it is in 'real life.' There could have been many other cases, but if there were, Tolkien did not report them.

Aragorn
Luthien
Idril
Niniel
Finwe
Turin

EDIT: If, once the theme is guessed, anyone can cite any further examples, I will add them with my apologies.

Urwen · 06-14-2019, 04:27 AM

Is it some kind of physical characteristic?

Pervinca Took · 06-14-2019, 04:28 AM

Yes, they all had a sixth finger, like Anne Boleyn.

Only kidding.

No.

Urwen · 06-14-2019, 04:33 AM

I am drawing a blank here. :|

Urwen · 06-14-2019, 04:34 AM

They all had magical powahs?

Pervinca Took · 06-14-2019, 04:37 AM

Well ....

When you thought the password was couples, you were wrong, but you were closer, thematically, than the above two answers are.

Urwen · 06-14-2019, 04:38 AM

People who married golden-haired people?

Pervinca Took · 06-14-2019, 04:40 AM

That is wrong for at least 3 of them.

Huinesoron · 06-14-2019, 04:40 AM

Hmm.

It can't be to do with their children: Turin and Nienor never had any. It can't be their parents, because Finwe never had any (named). It can't be anything to do with their deaths, because Idril never did.

Is it something to do with them all having two suitors (of varying degrees)? Aragorn has Arwen and Eowyn, Luthien had Daeron and Beren, Idril had Tuor and some elf who just doesn't get mentioned enough for me to remember his name (

), Niniel had Turin and Brandir, Turin... well, he was one of Finduilas' suitors, but also I guess Finduilas & Niniel. And Finwe had Miriel and Indis.

But those last two kind of break it: while the other four had one they rejected and one they married, Finwe was married to both of them, and Turin didn't know both at the same time.

If it is this, is your caveat Tar-Miriel? (Or Tar-Ancalime, who was a total fairytale princess when it comes to rejecting suitors.)

hS

Urwen · 06-14-2019, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron

some elf who just doesn't get mentioned enough for me to remember his name (

)
hS

How could you do this to me?

Urwen · 06-14-2019, 04:42 AM

Also, new password is up.

Pervinca Took · 06-14-2019, 04:58 AM

Huinesoron has the answer, more or less.

They were all loved (romantically) by two people, not just one.

Not that common a thing in Tolkien. Only one of his characters even remarries, as far as I am aware.

CAVEATS:

I am not counting Finduilas. *She* loved Gwindor, then Turin, but I believe Turin only felt brotherly affection for *her*. (Don't shudder at this. He was blameless when it came to Niniel, unless you count not accepting 'No' the first time and ignoring Brandir's advice (IIRC)).

I include Idril, because my gut feeling is that Maeglin did love her. I have a friend whose parents were first cousins. I'm not saying it's a good idea for such a thing to happen often. It isn't. But I am not grossed out by the idea of it happening occasionally.

I exclude Eowyn, because I would definitely *not* dignify Grima's urges with the name of love.

Ditto others who lusted after Luthien. Only 2 are presented as loving her.

Are there any I have missed?

I thought at first I was going to have to use Edith as an answer to have enough for a password (she had got engaged to another man by the time Tolkien was 21, but broke it off when Tolkien got back in touch with her and declared his feelings unchanged).

EDIT: Do I have to include Ancalime? Was she *loved* by two or more men?

Urwen · 06-14-2019, 05:09 AM

Would you like to try the password now, Pervinca?

Urwen · 06-14-2019, 05:10 AM

Also, which two people loved Turin?

Pervinca Took · 06-14-2019, 05:11 AM

Niniel and Finduilas.

Urwen · 06-14-2019, 05:28 AM

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Is that enough for you, or do you need more?

Pervinca Took · 06-14-2019, 05:30 AM

And it's Huinesoron's turn again, of course. Forgot to say it.

Urwen · 06-14-2019, 06:08 AM

Give us a puzzle, Huinesoron.

Huinesoron · 06-14-2019, 06:34 AM

Okay, let's try this one:

-Indis
-Ancalime
-Vorondil

There may be other examples, but I can't come up with any right now.

hS

Urwen · 06-14-2019, 06:49 AM

Is it something to do with spouses again? Because Vorondil had none.

Huinesoron · 06-14-2019, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Is it something to do with spouses again? Because Vorondil had none.

He had a pretty famous son, so unless this is another HoME XIII factoid, I think he probably did.

It's mostly not to do with spouses, no.

I guess Finwe could also be on the list.

hS

Urwen · 06-14-2019, 06:59 AM

They all held a position which didn't exist beforehand?

They all had royal blood?

Huinesoron · 06-14-2019, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

They all held a position which didn't exist beforehand?

Vorondil was Steward of Gondor like his dad.

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Originally Posted by Urwen

They all had royal blood?

I'm not sure Vorondil did.

hS

Urwen · 06-14-2019, 07:19 AM

Can't think of anything else.

Urwen · 06-14-2019, 07:20 AM

Oh wait. They all had a relative named Maeglin, did they not?

Or maybe they all wore wool hats and spoke in southern Irish accents?

Huinesoron · 06-14-2019, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Oh wait. They all had a relative named Maeglin, did they not?

Truly, do we not all have a relative named Maeglin in our hearts?

hS

Huinesoron · 06-20-2019, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Okay, let's try this one:

-Indis
-Ancalime
-Vorondil

There may be other examples, but I can't come up with any right now.

hS

Okay, so:

-For Indis, this was Finwe's fault.
-For Ancalime, it was Tar-Aldarion's.
-For Vorondil, it was Earnil's.

Of the guesses so far, Urwen's 'position which didn't exist beforehand' comes closest.

hS

Urwen · 06-20-2019, 03:09 AM

They were both forced to act as regents in the absence of true ruler?

06-11-2019, 08:41 AM	#1162
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	And this document was written by Sam? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-13-2019, 06:34 AM	#1164
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I wonder if this is something to do with founding a new surname, or bringing people into the world who do. (Fairbairn, Gardner). But I can't make it work. The same would be true of the Gaffer and Tolman Cotton. Ah ... missed the clue. They all appear in the Appendix of Family Trees and ... They all marry a descendant of someone? Someone high up the Gamwich tree? ... No. Faramir Took does that as well. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 06-13-2019 at 06:47 AM.

06-13-2019, 10:12 AM	#1166
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I don't know. I think only the 10 day rule can save us on this one. Goodchild was a surname JRRT considered for Sam. Did he consider Brown and Fairbairn as surnames for different or more important characters as well? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 06-13-2019 at 10:23 AM.

06-14-2019, 02:43 AM	#1168
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	That's the thing ... I'd guess something like the King's letter to Samwise, but it's after Bell's time. Lily is probably still alive ... but if they're mentioned there in a 'son of' and 'daughter of' capacity for Sam and Rose, it would be unusual to either not name the other parent or to name the mothers instead of the fathers. Also, why would the King mention Fastred when I believe Elanor is still a child, although not a young one? Was I right about the 'they are in' being a family tree/trees? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-14-2019, 03:34 AM	#1171
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	How about this? They all appear in the Longfather Tree of Master Samwise AND They all three have a unique surname. 1. Bell is the only 'real' Goodchild ever mentioned (Christopher wouldn't let his dad make Sam a Goodchild ... so that was never really a character). 2. Lily Brown is the only Brown ever mentioned. 3. Fastred is the only 'of Greenholm' (is that a surname, like the Dutch ''Van" or the French "De?"), because his children and wife, and he himself, (supposedly upon his marriage), took the name of Fairbairn. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 06-14-2019 at 03:38 AM.

06-13-2019, 07:10 AM	#1165
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,957	So what is the difference between these three and Faramir Took? hS

06-14-2019, 04:20 AM	#1173
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	OK. I am using the answers and password from my last password puzzle, for which I am not willing to give away the theme until at least a couple of people have had a go at guessing. With one caveat, which I will defend, I believe these are the only known characters to whom this applies. It's something that I would say is rarer in Tolkien's works than it is in 'real life.' There could have been many other cases, but if there were, Tolkien did not report them. Aragorn Luthien Idril Niniel Finwe Turin EDIT: If, once the theme is guessed, anyone can cite any further examples, I will add them with my apologies. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 06-14-2019 at 04:32 AM.

06-14-2019, 04:27 AM	#1174
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Is it some kind of physical characteristic? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-14-2019, 04:28 AM	#1175
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Yes, they all had a sixth finger, like Anne Boleyn. Only kidding. No. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-14-2019, 04:33 AM	#1176
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	I am drawing a blank here. :\| __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-14-2019, 04:34 AM	#1177
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	They all had magical powahs? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-14-2019, 04:37 AM	#1178
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Well .... When you thought the password was couples, you were wrong, but you were closer, thematically, than the above two answers are. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-14-2019, 04:38 AM	#1179
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	People who married golden-haired people? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-14-2019, 04:40 AM	#1180
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	That is wrong for at least 3 of them. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-14-2019, 04:40 AM	#1181
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,957	Hmm. It can't be to do with their children: Turin and Nienor never had any. It can't be their parents, because Finwe never had any (named). It can't be anything to do with their deaths, because Idril never did. Is it something to do with them all having two suitors (of varying degrees)? Aragorn has Arwen and Eowyn, Luthien had Daeron and Beren, Idril had Tuor and some elf who just doesn't get mentioned enough for me to remember his name (), Niniel had Turin and Brandir, Turin... well, he was one of Finduilas' suitors, but also I guess Finduilas & Niniel. And Finwe had Miriel and Indis. But those last two kind of break it: while the other four had one they rejected and one they married, Finwe was married to both of them, and Turin didn't know both at the same time. If it is this, is your caveat Tar-Miriel? (Or Tar-Ancalime, who was a total fairytale princess when it comes to rejecting suitors.) hS

06-14-2019, 04:42 AM	#1183
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Also, new password is up. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-14-2019, 04:58 AM	#1184
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Huinesoron has the answer, more or less. They were all loved (romantically) by two people, not just one. Not that common a thing in Tolkien. Only one of his characters even remarries, as far as I am aware. CAVEATS: I am not counting Finduilas. She loved Gwindor, then Turin, but I believe Turin only felt brotherly affection for her. (Don't shudder at this. He was blameless when it came to Niniel, unless you count not accepting 'No' the first time and ignoring Brandir's advice (IIRC)). I include Idril, because my gut feeling is that Maeglin did love her. I have a friend whose parents were first cousins. I'm not saying it's a good idea for such a thing to happen often. It isn't. But I am not grossed out by the idea of it happening occasionally. I exclude Eowyn, because I would definitely not dignify Grima's urges with the name of love. Ditto others who lusted after Luthien. Only 2 are presented as loving her. Are there any I have missed? I thought at first I was going to have to use Edith as an answer to have enough for a password (she had got engaged to another man by the time Tolkien was 21, but broke it off when Tolkien got back in touch with her and declared his feelings unchanged). EDIT: Do I have to include Ancalime? Was she loved by two or more men? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 06-14-2019 at 05:13 AM.

06-14-2019, 05:09 AM	#1185
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Would you like to try the password now, Pervinca? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-14-2019, 05:10 AM	#1186
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Also, which two people loved Turin? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-14-2019, 05:11 AM	#1187
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Niniel and Finduilas. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-14-2019, 05:28 AM	#1188
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	In response to Huinesoron: Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Maeglin Is that enough for you, or do you need more? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-14-2019, 05:30 AM	#1189
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	And it's Huinesoron's turn again, of course. Forgot to say it. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-14-2019, 06:08 AM	#1190
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Give us a puzzle, Huinesoron. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-14-2019, 06:34 AM	#1191
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,957	Okay, let's try this one: -Indis -Ancalime -Vorondil There may be other examples, but I can't come up with any right now. hS

06-14-2019, 06:49 AM	#1192
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Is it something to do with spouses again? Because Vorondil had none. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-14-2019, 06:59 AM	#1194
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	They all held a position which didn't exist beforehand? They all had royal blood? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-14-2019, 07:19 AM	#1196
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Can't think of anything else. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-14-2019, 07:20 AM	#1197
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Oh wait. They all had a relative named Maeglin, did they not? Or maybe they all wore wool hats and spoke in southern Irish accents? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 06-14-2019 at 07:27 AM.

06-20-2019, 03:09 AM	#1200
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	They were both forced to act as regents in the absence of true ruler? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.