Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXV: On the Borders of Mirkwood - Dead Thread

[Blind Guardian]

Wolves
Legate
?
?
?

Cobbler
Pitch (presumed)

Seer
Greenie

Ranger
?

Beast Hunter
Nilp

Villagers
Huinesoron
Loslote
Nogrod
Blind Guardian
Form
Rikae
Shasta
?

Remaining:
Brinn
Kath
Lommy
Mac
Sally
Pitch

Of these there are 3 Wolves, 1 Cobbler, 1 Ranger, 1 Villager

Of the six remaining unknowns I'm up for saying Pitch is the Cobbler.

If Greenie is right then the Wolves are: Mac, Kath, and Lommy.

That leaves Sally and Brinn as the Ranger and a Villager.

Congratulations guys, we've done it! If they don't figure this out then I would like to suggest to BoroMod that our Medium whacks everyone across the face. No words, just a good old whacking.

(Also Boro if you Mod again I will write up the stories for you! I love writing!)

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Lottie

And yeah, I think your conspiracy pack is very, very likely!

I think so too, though I have to say after my reread my entire page of notes on the remaining unknowns was highlighted red (for likely wolf)

I am somewhat sure about Lommy now though - the way she repeatedly criticises the Night kill and says something along the lines of "obviously the wolves think nothing like me", and the way Legate kept listing her as an innocent while vaguely saying it's just a gut feeling and he always trusts his gut feeling with Lommy (what an easy way to avoid suspecting a fellow!). And she'd fit in well with Kath too, saying she doesn't see where the suspicion of Kath comes from while agreeing that the argument against her makes sense, and saying Legate defending Kath looks weird but defending Kath herself in the same post Incidentally Mac defends Kath too while agreeing that the argument against her makes sense. It's almost too tidy which makes me think I'm wrong about one of them and there's one wolf who's not tangled in this at all - namely Brinn, Pitch, or Sally. (Both Mac and Sally kept giving Brinn passes for weird reasons, btw, I'm not sure if it's a pattern or just coincidence though.)

Not that it's really my job to figure this out anymore

Also one more thing that I completely forgot to mention in my first post - if I dreamed the Cobbler I'd see them as an ordinary villager. So it's still possible that Shasta or Rikae is the Cobbler! I'm fairly sure Shasta isn't, and Rikae is a possibility though wouldn't be my first guess.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Kath

[Mac's DT communication plan] seems really logical and a good idea.

Woooooooolf!

Mac's plan is great for the wolves, because it means Greenie not using the Medium to boost a vote on a wolf (or by an innocent). Since the Medium is only revealed at DL, this vote would therefore have no effect toDay, and by toMorrow, the wolves can hope to have good/evil equality (though not sufficient to win).

hS

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Huin

Mac's plan is great for the wolves, because it means Greenie not using the Medium to boost a vote on a wolf (or by an innocent). Since the Medium is only revealed at DL, this vote would therefore have no effect toDay, and by toMorrow, the wolves can hope to have good/evil equality (though not sufficient to win).

Agreed. If the rest of the village falls for that, they kind of deserve a wolf victory.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Agreed. If the rest of the village falls for that, they kind of deserve a wolf victory.

Sadly it seems a little like that: both Nilp and Kath have already endorsed the idea...

It would have been nice if Nilp would vote Mac - then we could both give a Mac one more vote and follow his list which says that empower Nilp if Mac is a wolf. That would be sweet indeed. Letting his own dogs bite him, as we say in Finland.

Regrettably Nilp says:

Originally Posted by Nilp

PS. To the Dead thread, I'm endorsing Mac's list. And despite being on my list, this line:

makes me want to trust you. Please don't be a Wolf.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Nog

It would have been nice if Nilp would vote Mac - then we could both give a Mac one more vote and follow his list which says that empower Nilp if Mac is a wolf. That would be sweet indeed. Letting his own dogs bite him, as we say in Finland.

Agreed again. Instead it looks like the village is, to quote another Finnish saying, urinating on their own cereal. Also Nilp's endorsement of Mac's plan is especially worrying as, given his more or less known innocent status, other remaining innocents are more likely to follow his lead.

[Boromir88]

Now that he's said it, I can finally tell Lottie...

Originally Posted by Nilp

(I was more disappointed with my DAY 1 choice: it was down to Lottie or Bryn [sic], and guess who I chose.)

Very close Night 2, but yet not quite.

Originally Posted by BG

(Also Boro if you Mod again I will write up the stories for you! I love writing!)

Ohh, thank you. It may be a while before I want to mod another one, but don't be surprised if you hear from me to keep you to your word.

Originally Posted by BG

Congratulations guys, we've done it! If they don't figure this out then I would like to suggest to BoroMod that our Medium whacks everyone across the face. No words, just a good old whacking.

No words and just whacking might be good. I do constantly worry about over-stepping the 'official' capacity.

I didn't see any unfair advantage to convey the general feeling of displeasure with the entire village voting for Form yesterday. It probably would have been clear enough the fact he was the one mediumized, I just found myself laughing (but also agreeing) with the hair pulling and frustration that was going on in this thread yesterday, and wanted to convey that through Form in the narration since he was getting mob lynched anyway.

I do always attempt to tread carefully though, because even as a neutral official, I was asked if I unconsciously find myself rooting for one side over another? I've always felt the village starts out at a minor disadvantage (usually not so bad it can't be overcome) but there is a reason, looking at Kuru's stats why there is a slight advantage to the wolves at least at the beginning. And even when I'm on my own side, as a werebear/weredragon, I tend to want to slaughter the wolves first, before the townspeople .

I guess all I hope for is balance where both sides feel like they had their chances to either win or lose and those decisions rest in their own hands, not from some sort of unfair advantage given by the mod.

There will be plenty of time for further discussion after, I do quite like how the BH role turned out. But there's still a game to play out that can very much go either way and at least in the narrations I won't be confirming or denying the reasoning behind the dead's choices for their medium. Even if I find myself agreeing with Nog's position here...

So it starts again...

Why don't they learn that is not going to work? It's just a waste of time they'd need to put in reading Greenie's posts to find what hS did so nicely.