Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXV: On the Borders of Mirkwood - Dead Thread

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

There is something to that! But that would limit those who came "later". If some stupid Dead (or evil Dead, or Cobblers - hi G55 - or whoever) wasted one useful thing on the first Day, then those who came later would be robbed of the chance of even having it as their option.

Exactly - gives the evil Dead the chance to actually affect the game! Also gives the Dead high stakes decisions to make.

[Loslote]

Also, in Mac's old list, empowering Pitch meant Nilp was a wolf, so they should be unlikely to get confused which list we meant to be voting off of. Definitely we need to wait and see who Pitch votes for, but it sounds like he was leaning towards Mac anyway.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Also, in Mac's old list, empowering Pitch meant Nilp was a wolf, so they should be unlikely to get confused which list we meant to be voting off of. Definitely we need to wait and see who Pitch votes for, but it sounds like he was leaning towards Mac anyway.

This is a good point.

[EDIT--since I can edit with impunity here, I shall emphasise the following is unrelated to Lottie's quote]

In my hypothetical future game, there will be a Ghost: the Dead Thread can send back one member each day to "haunt" the village (selected anew each Night). I haven't thought any further on the mechanics of that (i.e. would the Ghost get to communicate things wholesale, or only be able to give approved messages, or censored messages... but I'm definitely daydreaming about being able to yell at the Living from Beyond.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

This is a good point.

In my hypothetical future game, there will be a Ghost: the Dead Thread can send back one member each day to "haunt" the village (selected anew each Night). I haven't thought any further on the mechanics of that (i.e. would the Ghost get to communicate things wholesale, or only be able to give approved messages, or censored messages... but I'm definitely daydreaming about being able to yell at the Living from Beyond.

Maybe the Ghost can only repeat things they'd posted while alive? So like, if you were the Ghost, you could repeat "you are all terrible" but you couldn't tell them why.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Look, I just think with 5 good votes to 4 evil ones right now, using the Medium vote for information only could be what tips the scale here. If there's a way to do both (info AND as vote strength) I'm all for it.

I do think anyone wanting to have a "no vote" is misguided at best and wolvish at worst. We do not have that luxury.

Thank you Shasta!!!

[Boromir88]

All I can say, is I'm cracking up laughing.

Thanks, I'm glad at least through all the hair pulling you're all enjoying the living thread as much as I am right now.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Maybe the Ghost can only repeat things they'd posted while alive? So like, if you were the Ghost, you could repeat "you are all terrible" but you couldn't tell them why.

You can only post quotes of yourself?

Not a bad twist. There'd probably have to be some rules, like "whole paragraphs only" (i.e. don't quote "the" then "village" then "are" then "idiots") and no italicising/bolding/underlining/etc allowed.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

well, we've made our bed, now let's lie in it. I hope the dead thread can make it work, or we're all potentially very dead.

it would help if you all started voting!

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

it would help if you all started voting!

Fascinating--I typed that in all-caps. I did not know that an all-caps post would be automatically de-capsed.

Learn something new all the time.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Exactly - gives the evil Dead the chance to actually affect the game! Also gives the Dead high stakes decisions to make.

Maybe. Interesting thought for sure.

Originally Posted by Formendacil

You can only post quotes of yourself?

Not a bad twist. There'd probably have to be some rules, like "whole paragraphs only" (i.e. don't quote "the" then "village" then "are" then "idiots") and no italicising/bolding/underlining/etc allowed.

Whole paragraphs would be so fun. Even though knowing it, people may be careful in advance and plan how they post so it can be used more easily later on. Which might lead to some rather funny structure of posts.

I would be careful about any "messages" though... people coming back from the Dead has also been used before (although, there it was literally returning, for a Day, bringing info from the Dead, then "dying" again). I didn't particularly like it, it's again one of the things that smells like it isn't phantomproof. My rule no. 1 - if something looks prone to "phantom-ing" on first sight, I'm not using it (or I adjust it so it can't be easily exploited).

But I like the idea of Ghost, in essence. It would only require really thorough planning.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Whole paragraphs would be so fun. Even though knowing it, people may be careful in advance and plan how they post so it can be used more easily later on. Which might lead to some rather funny structure of posts.

That could actually be a feature rather than just a quirk: you'd definitely get layers of people getting lynched or suspected for weird set-ups--and Wolves who would be able to backtrack bad posts with "sorry you all took that wrong--just wanted to lay some Ghost Post fodder."

Originally Posted by Legate

I would be careful about any "messages" though... people coming back from the Dead has also been used before (although, there it was literally returning, for a Day, bringing info from the Dead, then "dying" again). I didn't particularly like it, it's again one of the things that smells like it isn't phantomproof. My rule no. 1 - if something looks prone to "phantom-ing" on first sight, I'm not using it (or I adjust it so it can't be easily exploited).

But I like the idea of Ghost, in essence. It would only require really thorough planning.

Definitely--like I said, I haven't thought it through other than to note that would be needed. And phantom-proofing is an especially ironic name, in context.