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01-06-2009, 06:52 AM | #1 |
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Oh My Goodness Me!!!
http://www.thebookseller.com/news/73781-page.html
HarperCollins is to publish a new book by the late Lord of the Rings author J R R Tolkien. The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrún, edited and introduced by Tolkien’s son Christopher, will be published in hardback in May 2009. The previously unpublished work was written while Tolkien was professor of Anglo-Saxon at Oxford University during the 1920s and '30s, before he wrote The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. The publication will make available for the first time Tolkien’s extensive retelling in English narrative verse of the epic Norse tales of Sigurd the Völsung and the Fall of the Niflungs. Christopher Tolkien edited Tolkien's most recent title The Children of Húrin in 2007. Further details about the contents of the book will be revealed closer to publication. |
01-06-2009, 08:47 AM | #2 |
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Oh my goodness me indeed!
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01-06-2009, 09:11 AM | #3 |
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Assuming it's true (forgive the skepticism, but there are a lot of false rumours), you beat TheOneRing.net to the story!
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01-06-2009, 09:45 AM | #4 |
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Given some of the similarities in the stories, it doesn't surprise me that this is coming out now, with Children of Hurin still fresh in our minds. Wasn't this one of Tolkien's favourite stories as a child? I seem to recall reading that, but it's been a while since I read a proper biography...
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01-06-2009, 11:01 AM | #5 |
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But - but it's not even close to April 1st yet!
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Don't know if anyone recalls William Cloud Hicklin mentioning on another thread that CT was working on a volume of his father's verse - looks like this is it. I've been wanting to read Tolkien's 'New Volsungasaga' since it was mentioned in Carpenter's biography.
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Definitely happening:
http://www.tolkienlibrary.com/press/...urd_Gudrun.php
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01-06-2009, 02:10 PM | #8 |
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This won't be a translation, will it? A Tolkien retelling in his own narrative style?
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01-06-2009, 02:17 PM | #9 |
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More!
Cheers for the heads-up davem!
Looking forward to this one, especially as I've been remiss in reading any Norse legends!
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Found this, which speculates on the new book http://lingwe.blogspot.com/2009/01/n...is-summer.html
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01-06-2009, 02:23 PM | #11 |
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Wait... so even more quotes to search for in "Minor Works"?
I don't know if I'll read it only because it is by Tolkien... I'll look up the reviews first and read other opinions and then decide if it's worth buying.
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01-06-2009, 06:25 PM | #13 |
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Some day, you might even have to add Tolkien's translation of Beowulf, just to mix up the lines from sagas, to the quote games, although of course after first deciding what is a minor work and what is a major work.
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01-07-2009, 01:55 AM | #14 |
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i want to read his two versions of Beowulf so bad i'm actually pretty ticked off at his estate for not publishing it yet. But it's good to here that some more tolkien is coming out and i'll be sure to snatch this up right away. Also good to hear that Christopher is behind it, but i still think the two beowulfs should have been published long ago.
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01-07-2009, 06:58 AM | #15 |
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Guardian feature http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009...n-norse-legend
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01-07-2009, 03:34 PM | #16 |
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This is great news!
I cannot wait. I love Norse Mythology.
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01-20-2009, 09:03 AM | #17 |
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Yep, this is the 'verse' I was talking about. But I couldn't at the time be other than vague and let the cat out of the bag.
Beowulf- well, there are issues surrounding that text, and I don't know if CT has the energy left to address them. There may be a certain hope for The Fall of Arthur, and I've been on him to republish Aotrou and Itroun, since it's not like many of us have ever seen that back number of the extinct Welsh Review.
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01-20-2009, 09:23 AM | #18 |
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I will probably buy and read it, but I am slightly annoyd because it will take up some of the time I wanted to use on reading Saxo, Sven Aggesøn, Arild Huitfeldt and the Sagas
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Ok, this is the deluxe ed, but I'm assuming publication date for the standard ed is going to be the same - 5/5/9
http://www.harpercollins.co.uk/Conte...px?objId=48715 Quote:
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02-04-2009, 02:41 PM | #20 |
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I’ll definitely have to get this book then. I love his translations - the ones I’ve got to read at least, which are Sir Ofero, Gawain and the Green Night, and Pearl. The fact that this appears to be his own version of it and not a straight translation can only make it better.
Like many others I would love to see his translation of Beowulf, just to see if it is better (more approachable I guess) than the other translations I’ve seen so far, in the relatively secluded area I live in - in which my only hope of getting a translation of Beowulf may be if it gets published as a book by the Tolkien Estates. But at the same time I can understand that it might be impossible to publish. And hey maybe if they don’t I can do my own translation in a few decades - seriously obsessed language student here.
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Here's an update on the FOUR alternative editions of Sigurd & Gudrun http://tolkien.co.uk/pages/interestcaptureform.aspx
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03-18-2009, 11:35 PM | #24 |
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And Amazon now has the cover picture. Amazingly it is not illustrated by Alan Lee..........
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03-19-2009, 12:19 AM | #25 |
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FWIW, the cover photo is a detail of the 'Sigurd Portal' from the 13th-c. stave church at Hylestad, Norway. The image is Sigurd's horse, Grani, laden with the late Fafnir's treasure.
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Three reviews
Positive , from John Garth http://entertainment.timesonline.co....cle6193162.ece in the Times
& negative (overall - more damning with faint praise because he likes bits of it), from Mark Sanderson http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/b...en-review.html in the Telegraph & one somewhere in the middle http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1...300839,00.html (likes the poems but not the 'scholarly stuff' Quote:
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I suspect that Mark Sanderson of The Telegraph was simply doing his darnedest to work up to a line he couldn't resist.
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05-03-2009, 10:46 AM | #28 |
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Sanderson's scurrilous point is rather undermined by the fact that Sigurd and Gudrun were originally prepared for publication in the mid-1980's- years and years before the Jackson movies.
Truth be told, CT is bringing them out now because some of us asked him to. (Sanderson also betrays his ignorance by calling Gudrun Sigurd's "sister"- she is of course Gunnar's sister and Sigurd's widow.)
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05-03-2009, 10:58 AM | #29 |
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Here's another, from a source predisposed to be favorable:
http://www.tolkienlibrary.com/press/...and_Gudrun.php
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05-05-2009, 05:37 AM | #30 |
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Christopher Tolkien Q&A
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05-05-2009, 08:39 AM | #31 |
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More reviews-
Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...050403462.html CanWest News: http://www.canada.com/Beyond+Middle+...346/story.html Library Journal: http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6655942.html
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05-05-2009, 10:33 AM | #32 |
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New Sigurd & Gudrun section at the official Estate website!
http://www.tolkienestate.com/sigurd-and-gudrun/
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05-05-2009, 04:28 PM | #33 |
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Just bought it! Though I won't have a chance to start on it in earnest until tomorrow, I have read Christopher Tolkien's Foreword. First impressions: The lays themselves are shorter than I expected; each 'half-line' is actually printed as a separate line, and there are only 24 per page. I for one am very glad that the book is filled out with Christopher's commentary and with material from Tolkien's lectures on Old Norse. The book has a very nice look and feel, and the wood-carving-style drawings preceding each section are a nice touch.
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I'm assuming the Houghton Mifflin edition is superior to the Harper Collins 'hardback' (ie'paperback with thick card covers') production then - the HC glued binding is so bad (which I'd feared would be the case, sadly, after their 70th anniversary Hobbit 'hardback') that I'm afraid to open it to more than forty-five degrees in case it breaks in half
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05-06-2009, 06:24 AM | #35 |
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It certainly seems to be the case over the last several years that H-M's North American editions are superior, physically, to the very cheap binding used by HC UK.
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05-06-2009, 07:48 AM | #36 |
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Tom Shippey in the Times Literary Suppliment http://entertainment.timesonline.co....cle6232731.ece
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The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrún: Pre- and Reviews
Below find the complete review by Shippey of Tolkien's 'THE LEGEND OF SIGURD AND GUDRÚN' in the Times Literary Supplement Online. It carries the heavy-handed (almost Wagnerian) title "Tolkien out-Wagners Wagner":
http://entertainment.timesonline.co....MC-Bltn=PMUFMA Very intriguing and deep. Not for the faint of heart, but quite interesting to this English Major. I'm sure not everyone will find the implications of the use of parataxis and asyndeton fascinating, I do.
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Went to buy it today but it's not available here yet. It will probably get here at the end of May or start of June. I realise I could order online but I like the old-fasioned way. I think this is the first time I've been eagerly awaiting a book's release.
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Just bought it today. One thing I'm wondering about...why is Gudrun spelt with the Icelandic ú but not also ð?
It should either be Gudrun (German) or Guðrún (Icelandic/Norse).
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