First Age Trivia

[The Might]

So much for that promise...

A new one: Who enjoyed the pines of Dorthonion during the winter?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Random shot, since I don't know the song from my head, but I guess Treebeard?

[The Might]

Bah...you're correct again.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay... where did the name Cirith Ninniach come from? (meaning, who named that)

[The Might]

Tuor named it that way, meaning Rainbow Cleft, after seeing a rainbow while he passed there in 495.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Absolutely complete answer. :) Please continue with the thread.

[The Might]

Well, I'll let someone else take the thread, since this is the last time I'll be online before leaving on vacation, and I wouldn't be able to confirm a correct answer.

[The Might]

Seems nobody wished to post...sooo...

How was Mim's shelter on Amon Rudh nicknamed after many had joined Turin and Beleg's cause? (Sindarin name please)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

You surely didn't think I wouldn't answer that one?

Echad i Sedryn, the Camp of the Faithful.

[The Might]

I was hoping you were not paying enough attention. :D

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Ah, that's just too bad. :p Anyway... hmmm...

Who was the leader of the "Anti-Orc radical party" among the men of Brethil?

[The Might]

Halmir perhaps?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Halmir perhaps?

No, no... it's stated there in the book...

[The Might]

Wait...wasn't that Asgon?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Still the wrong man :)

[Gwathagor]

Dorlas.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Exactly. Your turn. And welcome at the Downs.

[The Might]

So, I'm back as well now, and it's nice to see someone finally answered it. :)

[Gwathagor]

Ok.

Who was Ancalagon and what was his epithet?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Ancalagon the Black was the mightiest of the dragons and was slayed by Eärendil in the War of Wrath.

[The Might]

Just one thing I'd like to see mentioned, Ancalagon is not explicitly named the mightiest dragon, but the mightiest winged dragon. I had a rather long discussion in another forum with a fellow member on this topic. he considered that Glaurung was better.
I too believe Ancalagon is more powerful, not only because he is said to have a stronger fire-breath and also the ability to fly, but also as a latter dragon must have had certain "improvements" from the original design.
His main argument was that if he really was the mightiest of all, Tolkien would not have clearly specified mightiest of the winged dragons.

Since the matter is somewhat unclear, I'd be careful about this. :)

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

It is completely fair for you to point that out. . .I do stuff like that my self, but as this is a quiz room I am not going to care much whether I sometimes give charachters more credit than they deserve.

[Gwathagor]

Ancalagon the Black is, of course, the correct answer.

Take the thread.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

hmmm I cannot think of a very good question. . . Just give me the names of the people from the house of Hador that was raised in foster care.

[Gwathagor]

Tuor and Turin?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I belive so (If there was anyone else then I have forgotten)

I hand the thread back to you.

[Gwathagor]

What was Aule's other name?

[Thinlómien]

I know he had some other name but I can't recall it right now... So what about Mahal, the name dwarves used of him?

[Gwathagor]

For sure.

[Thinlómien]

Who betrayed his companions because of love?

[Gwathagor]

Gorlim.

[Thinlómien]

Of course, you're right. :)

[The Might]

Ok, new one:

Which twins were spared by the enemy?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Elrond and Elros? Spared by the remaining Fëanor's sons?

[The Might]

Indeed. ;)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Who taught the others something, even though grieving?

[Thinlómien]

Nienna?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

It's one thing that could come on one's mind, but no. :)

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Maybe you should lower your standards and make it more like a normal quiz question and less vague.

If this is not something you want to do, then maybe a hint of some sort would be doable.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I raised my standards after I learnt that when I post a too "common" question, some Might will appear out of nowhere and answer it before anyone else could post.:)
The second problem is probably that I have a very vague idea of what should be considered as "common knowledge", so that I don't post anything like "what was Mr. Baggins' first name?". It's hard to define the line.

But okay, this one is quite hard, but I believe certain kind of people could know that. So, a hint - this mysterious "someone" taught the Elves something, even though grieving.

Now I believe the question even makes more sense (it was not that apparent from the original one).

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Yes this one is deffinitly better! I totaly get that "I think I know this" feeling that any good question should give you, it incourages you to think and maybe even do some book searching.

Anyways about the standarts I see why you raised the level, basicly to make the game more accesable for everybody. Just be careful because if you make them too vague you exclude the ones who are not particuler fond of/good at that kind of questions.

Anyways I like the question as it is now.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Yes this one is deffinitly better! I totaly get that "I think I know this" feeling that any good question should give you, it incourages you to think and maybe even do some book searching.

Anyways about the standarts I see why you raised the level, basicly to make the game more accesable for everybody. Just be careful because if you make them too vague you exclude the ones who are not particuler fond of/good at that kind of questions.

Anyways I like the question as it is now.

Good. I will try to make it clear enough in the future. So, good luck in your riddling :)

[Thinlómien]

It was Ossë who taught teleri how to make ships, even though grieving

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hmm, Rune, what a pity ;)

Yes, of course, you are right, Lommy. Please continue the thread :)

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Not really. . .I did not have time or rather I did not take time to think it through and decided that I would give it ago in the early hours of the morning if nobody else had guessed it.

Of course this does limit my obviouse procrastination options, but I will survive.

[Thinlómien]

But Rune, my friend! You may occupy yourself with the next question:

Huan was allowed to speak three times in his life. Name the three occasions he decided to use his ability.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

First, when he spoke to Lúthien about her escape from Nargothrond.

Second, when Beren wanted Lúthien to turn back from their journey to Angband.

Third, before he died, saying goodbye to Beren.

Sorry, couldn't resist. :)

[Thinlómien]

Yes, you're right of course. Now you can make up the next question to let Rune (or someone else) procrastinate... :D

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Maybe actually answering the questions instead of Rune is in fact helping him? You know, so that he spends his time in a more... useful way.

But whatever. Let's try something easier (I believe/hope) for a change:

What fortress turned out to be absolutely useless, because it was built at a place where it was useless?

[Groin Redbeard]

Is it Gondolin?

[Gil-Galad]

whats that name... Vinyamar?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

No, no. Gil-Galad is somewhat close, maybe he actually knows what I have in mind, just cannot find what exactly it is :)

[Gil-Galad]

maybe i do...

only things i can come up with is:

Edoras(they deserted this fort-city for helms deep)

or

Utumno(it was destroyed in the first attack upon it)


if its close to Vinyamar then i'm rather lost... geographically close or history-close?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Both geographically and historically.

And of course, then neither of the answers you provided was the correct one.

[Gil-Galad]

i could say Hithlum... it was in the north and it was overrun eventually. it posed no threat to Morgoth what-so-ever besides covering that flank, but like i said it was over run and Easterlings populated it.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Yes, but it still guarded the flank and the it did what it was supposed to do. The fortress I am thinking of was never used in the way it was supposed to be used when it was built.

[The Might]

Well, in a Legate-like style I didn't wish to post to give you a chance.
But, then again you tried...

It's Barad Nimras, built by Finrod Felagund on a headland westward of Eglarest to warn in case Morgoth would ever attack from the ocean. As he however never did, it was never needed.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Of course, what else. Please continue :)

[The Might]

Well, hope this next one shall prove to be a little bit problematic:

Who sang while something blossomed?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

That can be a lot of people. At least two Valier, one Maia and one Elf come to my mind. But I believe you can be referring to Yavanna and the Trees.

[The Might]

Indeed, though it isn't really First Age, thought it would still be ok. :D

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay, here's a new one.

Who was the first Man to come to the Great Sea?

[The Might]

Believe this was Tuor.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Indeed he was. (I think this one was pretty easy.) Thread is yours.

[The Might]

Who was cursed to lack a bow?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

If I understood the question correctly, then it was Mim by Andróg.

[The Might]

How much do you really know exactly?
Bah, it's like you're a walking ME encyclopedia. :eek:

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Well, particularly this answer is not showing much, as I did a WW game based on the story of Túrin half a year ago, so I obviously had to know that.

Anyway. What about this:

There was a certain diplomatic meeting where both sides brought more forces than they have agreed on. What was this occassion and which were the concerned sides?

[Nerwen]

It was just after the Dagor-nuin-Giliath, when Morgoth and the Noldor agreed to meet to discuss terms:

each embassy came with greater force than was agreed; but Morgoth sent the more, and there were Balrogs.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Good job, Nerwen! Please, continue!

[Nerwen]

Who was the first of the Noldor to come to Menegroth?

[Thinlómien]

Angrod or Aegnor... Angrod or Aegnor...

Well, my guess is Angrod.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

And wasn't it Galadriel, by chance? If she wasn't there earlier...

I'm not that good in Silm. :)

[Nerwen]

Thinlómien has it.

Please take the thread, Lommy.

[Thinlómien]

Mwahahaa...... :D

Ahem, yes, the next question:

How many companions did Barahir have?

[Nerwen]

Twelve.

[Thinlómien]

Why, of course. :) The thread is yours.

*reminder to self: never make "how many"-questions when Nerwen's around* ;)

[Nerwen]

What was Ard-galen called after the Dagor Bragollach?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Sorry, but no one responded before I appeared :) Anfauglith.

[Nerwen]

Yes. All yours, Legate.:)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Who died while trying to save his father's body from being massacred by the Orcs?

[Nerwen]

Haldar.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Haldar.

:eek: Correct. Please continue.

Did you know that just from your head? I.e. without looking to the books?

[Nerwen]

No. I knew it was Haleth's brother, but I wasn't sure of his name. I had to cheat a bit.

Okay, where did Barahir rescue Finrod?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

No. I knew it was Haleth's brother, but I wasn't sure of his name.

That's admirable nevertheless. You should definitely go for next Trivia match, if there will be any.

Okay, where did Barahir rescue Finrod?

Was it in the swamps of Serech?

[Nerwen]

Yes, it was.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

What was always shining with blue light?

[Nerwen]

Hmmn. That's tricky.

Is it Luinil?

I can't think of anything else.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

No, I am thinking about an object, an item.

[Nerwen]

*scratches head*

One of those lamps Fëanor made?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Yes, indeed. The so-called "fëanorian lamp" or "Noldo-lantern". There were more of them. Please continue the thread.

[Nerwen]

Where did Elenwë die?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I belive she died at the corssing of Helcaraxë

[Nerwen]

She did indeed.

Thread's yours.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

YAY. . .oh damn that means I have to think of a question. . .

ok I think I got it.

Who accompanied Fingolfin to the gates of Angband?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

As far as I know, only his horse, Rochallor.

[Nerwen]

No-one (apart from his horse).

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Rochallor it is!

you take over Legate

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay.

Who was the High King of all Elves?

[The Might]

Ah yes, no need to look this one up, as it's Ingwe.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Of course, easy. If I knew you are going to appear, I would have picked something very hard. Okay, please continue :)

[The Might]

What name did the Sindarin use for the 'Everlasting Whiteneness'?

[Nerwen]

Fanuilos.

[The Might]

Not sure if that isn't Quenya...
No, I am looking for something else.

[Nerwen]

It is Sindarin– it's a title of Elbereth.

How about Amon Uilos, then?

[The Might]

Yes, this is what I had in mind. :D

[Nerwen]

Who wounded Glaurung at the Nirnaeth Arnoediad?

[Gil-Galad]

Azaghal, Dwarf Lord from Belegost.

[Nerwen]

Yep. Your turn.

[Gil-Galad]

heres a semi-riddle

Where does the wealth of the middle finally rest?

[The Might]

Wonder what middle means...

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

On the brow of Eärendil?

Actually I have no idea what you riddle is about. . .maybe you could re-phrase it or come with a hint.

[Gil-Galad]

sigh... its too easy for me to give you a hint...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

What, you mean the Silmarils? One in the air, one in the water, one in the fire-depths of earth?

[Gil-Galad]

no keep guessing, your thinking to small. think BIG!

[The Might]

Well, maybe it is Númenor you are talking about, in which case it would be at the bottom of Belegaer.

[Gil-Galad]

your on the right track with that guess, but alas it is wrong!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Gil, I think also for the sake of clarity it will be good to at last explain what the "middle" in your first post is supposed to mean. I took it as "Middle-Earth", but if it was a typo, it will be probably better to correct it so that no one else is confused. If not, you should maybe tell us what it is supposed to mean, middle of what, or at least tell us that it's an intentionally cryptic word.

[The Might]

Perhaps in Aman... I know of that sceptre of Numenor in Aman

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

I suppose it could be the Ascar. Doriath was in the middle of Beleriand, and its treasure ended up on the bed of that river.