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Gil-Galad
03-13-2004, 04:17 PM
nope! close! but nope!

The Perky Ent
03-13-2004, 06:20 PM
Pippin? Because he went to the misty mts. and fought with boromir, then he rode to pelenor fields? It's wrong, but it's still a guess!

Gil-Galad
03-13-2004, 11:00 PM
Nope! close! but nope!


Hint: its a man

The Perky Ent
03-14-2004, 07:56 AM
Aragorn, he went to the Dwimorberg, fought with Boromir with the horn is his ears, fought at Pelenor, and....i can't figure out the last part, but oh well :(

Gil-Galad
03-14-2004, 01:44 PM
nope!getting colder!

symestreem
03-14-2004, 01:53 PM
Eomer? He fought at Helm's Deep; he led one of the three eoreds at Pelennor.

Finwe
03-14-2004, 01:53 PM
It's Eomer.

Went to the mountains (when defending Helm's Deep)

Fought with the horn in his ears (the last charge at Helm's Deep, when the horn of Helm Hammerhand was blowing)

Rode to the fields (rode to the Battle of the Pelennor Fields)

His name is a trait of his (his name means "horse-famous" and he was indeed famous)

leading the one of the third (he was one of the three Marshals of the Riddermark and during the Battle of the Pelennor Fields, was one of the three "forces" who penned the Orcs in and slaughtered them; the others were Aragorn and the Grey Company from the quays and Imrahil and his Knights from Minas Tirith itself)

Gil-Galad
03-14-2004, 01:54 PM
Close! but nope!

Gil-Galad
03-14-2004, 01:57 PM
Super hint: part of this persons name goes with bringer of death

symestreem
03-15-2004, 06:31 PM
Grimbold! Actually, we don't know if he fought at Helm's Deep; he is first mentioned in ROTK. He did fight at Helm's Deep, and he led one of the three eoreds.

Gil-Galad
03-16-2004, 03:23 PM
Symestreem has it! good job, i actually think it wasn't that hard

(and for movie fans, you can see Grimbold in TTT, when the elves come, he says "get the king" then he yells "open the gate!", and i also saw him in rotk movie as well...)

NightKnight
03-16-2004, 03:44 PM
Was that Grimbold? I always thought it was Gamling...

Gil-Galad
03-16-2004, 03:46 PM
Gamling was by Theoden remember?

NightKnight
03-16-2004, 03:48 PM
Right...stupid me. *Smacks*

symestreem
03-17-2004, 05:36 PM
I seriously considered letting someone else take the thread, because I'm not very good at this. But I decided that would be yellow. So I apologize if this is weird or cryptic.

I had seven sons, and some say other children. My family was rather scandalized at this. Some of my friends betrayed me and injured my children. My children are older than those who, though good, would do them harm.

luthien-elvenprincess
03-17-2004, 06:00 PM
Aule?

symestreem
03-17-2004, 06:46 PM
Yep!

Did we just do a thread swap?

luthien-elvenprincess
03-17-2004, 09:36 PM
I think so!
I am the only one,
yet just one of many.
with 99 of mine, I made one,
with 104 of mine, I made another one
my two had none.
Who am I?

The Perky Ent
03-17-2004, 09:44 PM
...eru...

luthien-elvenprincess
03-17-2004, 10:10 PM
no

Gil-Galad
03-18-2004, 10:08 AM
good ol, Tom Bombadil....yah its probaly not him

luthien-elvenprincess
03-18-2004, 05:37 PM
nope

The Perky Ent
03-18-2004, 08:48 PM
Treebeard? *walks away slowly*

luthien-elvenprincess
03-19-2004, 07:40 AM
no
I will try to think of a hint that will not give it completely away...

luthien-elvenprincess
03-21-2004, 04:44 PM
Ok, an additional hint...
at 116 of his, I was made,
he carried the last one of its kind.

Arvedui III
03-22-2004, 05:51 PM
Umm...*thinks of random guess* Feanor?

luthien-elvenprincess
03-22-2004, 06:00 PM
Incorrect, Arvedui II.

Just for clarity...I am going to post the original riddle with the additional hint given later...all in one post.

I am the only one,
yet just one of many.
with 99 of mine, I made one,
with 104 of mine, I made another one
my two had none.
at 116 of his, I was made,
he carried the last one of its kind.
Who am I?

luthien-elvenprincess
03-26-2004, 08:13 AM
alright already...another hint.
the numbers in the riddle stand for years.

Thorongil
03-26-2004, 10:07 AM
Could it be Elrond?
I'm not sure about this, but it could be that he got one son when he was 99 and one at 104. His two sons had no children (that i have heard of), Earendil was 116 when he was born, and he bore the only remaining Silmaril.

luthien-elvenprincess
03-26-2004, 06:52 PM
Nope :p

Think hard about the first two lines. A silmaril is not the "last one of its kind" that I am looking for. Limit your search to Appendix A. ;)

symestreem
03-27-2004, 01:04 PM
Could it be Dis daughter of Thrain? She is the only dwarf-woman mentioned in the books, and the years work out. Also, her father carried the last dwarf-ring.

luthien-elvenprincess
03-27-2004, 04:56 PM
Perfect, symestreem :)
you are up.

symestreem
03-27-2004, 04:58 PM
Maiden of the vegetable necklaces produces old intoxicant.

This one should be a cinch!

Arvedui III
04-03-2004, 10:06 AM
umm...beggin' your pardon, but perhaps, could we have a hint?

The Perky Ent
04-03-2004, 10:10 AM
Random answer, is it Ellanor Gamgee?

Finwe
04-03-2004, 10:54 AM
Could it be Esmeralda Took?

symestreem
04-03-2004, 11:49 AM
It is neither Elanor Gamgee nor Esmerelda Took. The first part is straightforward; old intoxicant is cryptic.
It's not a hobbit.

Arestevana
04-03-2004, 02:49 PM
Is it Galadriel?

The Perky Ent
04-03-2004, 04:52 PM
Arrrrrrr...wen

Gil-Galad
04-04-2004, 10:03 AM
Rosie?

Finwe
04-04-2004, 10:18 AM
Eowyn?

Evisse the Blue
04-04-2004, 11:14 AM
I think it's Belladonna (old intoxicant)

symestreem
04-04-2004, 03:32 PM
None of those. It's not an elf.
Perhaps to be more specific, I should say that intoxicant is a straight clue and old is a cryptic clue. People who like precise spelling should not attempt this puzzle.

Gil-Galad
04-04-2004, 05:10 PM
The Old took maybe? or Bilbo?

symestreem
04-04-2004, 06:06 PM
It's not a hobbit.
Hint... hint... read the thread...

Finwe
04-04-2004, 06:46 PM
Tom Bombadil?

Fingolfin II
04-05-2004, 12:13 AM
Wait, I've just thought- old intoxicant- could it be Elfwine?

Evisse the Blue
04-05-2004, 02:31 AM
It's not a hobbit. I swear I didn't see this the first time, sorry!

Anyway, I'm pretty sure now it's Goldberry...isn't it?

Finwe
04-05-2004, 09:40 PM
Lothiriel?

Gil-Galad
04-06-2004, 07:09 AM
Something makes me think Old man Willow or Fimbrethil

symestreem
04-08-2004, 08:08 PM
Fingolfin and Finwe are both correct. Lothiriel is the maiden of the vegetable garlands, and her son Elfwine is the old intoxicant. (elf=Eldar=elder, wine=intoxicant that is also old.)
Fingolfin's turn.

Fingolfin II
04-09-2004, 01:31 AM
I'm really bad at this sort of stuff, so Finwe can go.

Finwe
04-09-2004, 10:55 AM
Hmm.... all right...


Dawn sea is the beginning of the third line.

NightKnight
04-16-2004, 09:36 AM
Eomer?

The Perky Ent
04-16-2004, 10:16 AM
Haldad?

Finwe
04-16-2004, 08:42 PM
Eomer is correct. Yours, NightKnight.

NightKnight
04-18-2004, 04:17 AM
I escaped fire, I endured woe,
I called for aid, then killed the black foe.
Who am I?

symestreem
04-18-2004, 07:56 AM
Earendil?

NightKnight
04-18-2004, 08:04 AM
Correct.

symestreem
04-22-2004, 07:47 PM
I fought bravely and fell by an invincible hand. I lost my family, and died in a mirror that would reflect what happened to me 260 years later.

Bombadil
04-22-2004, 08:11 PM
Boromir?

symestreem
04-23-2004, 04:14 AM
None of the Boromirs.

Fingolfin II
04-23-2004, 05:36 AM
Aragorn?

Finwe
04-23-2004, 05:53 PM
Durin?

symestreem
04-24-2004, 06:54 AM
None of the Aragorns, and none of the Durins. When I say 'invincible', I really mean invincible, but it's not old age.

Bombadil
04-24-2004, 07:22 AM
hmmmm, It isn't Elendil, is it?

symestreem
04-24-2004, 11:50 AM
No. Sauron was not invincible.

Gil-Galad
04-24-2004, 10:30 PM
Fingolfin? since he died by Melkor a Valar, which was considered a God, and Gods were considered immortals

Fingolfin II
04-24-2004, 11:11 PM
Ar-Pharazon? He was killed by Eru's earthquake.

The Perky Ent
04-25-2004, 08:10 AM
Isildur, because he fell to the power of the ring, along with his songs?

symestreem
04-25-2004, 12:12 PM
Nope. It's a man. And the invincible thing is really invincible; it's not a sentient being.

Gil-Galad
04-25-2004, 02:53 PM
Denethor or the last king of Gondor?(don't remember name)

The Saucepan Man
04-25-2004, 04:39 PM
Since we're over the 10 page limit, I'm closing this thread. Symestreem, could you start a new one please and include in your first post the rules for the game and a summary of where we are with your question.

Thanks. :)

symestreem
04-29-2004, 04:14 PM
The point of this game is to guess the person from the information given. The information will vary, but it's rarely straightforward. Sometimes it's cryptic. (If anyone can give a better summary I'd appreciate it... I can't find the original 'Who Am I?').

Righty-ho then, the riddle on the table is

I fought bravely and fell by an invincible hand. I lost my family, and died in a mirror that would reflect what happened to me 260 years later.

We have established that
-It is not any of the Boromirs
-It is not any of the Aragorns
-It is not any of the Durins
-It is not Elendil
-It is not Fingolfin
-It is not Ar-Pharazon
-It is not Isildur
-It is not Denethor or the last king of Gondor
-It is a man
-The 'invincible hand' is really invincible- it cannot be defeated, although it does not always win. It is not sentient or sapient.

NightKnight
04-30-2004, 03:47 AM
Is it Baldor?

symestreem
04-30-2004, 04:56 AM
No. Think of the "mirror" part.
Hint: The 'invincible hand' also threatened the Fellowship of the Ring.

Fingolfin II
04-30-2004, 05:11 AM
Could it be Earnur?

symestreem
04-30-2004, 01:51 PM
No. The Nazgul are not invincible.

NightKnight
04-30-2004, 04:00 PM
Could it be Helm? He died 260 years before Frodo and Sam looked in the Mirror of Galadriel, he lost his family, he froze to death, and cold is quite invincible.

symestreem
04-30-2004, 05:31 PM
You're so close! Really! But the "Mirror" but is not literal. Rather, it shows a duplicate of what happened. If that helps any.

nynnd1
05-04-2004, 06:26 AM
I don't think it is but i'm going for a major stab in the dark, and am almost defenetly wrong.(As i am with my spelling)

Is it Theoden :rolleyes:

NightKnight
05-04-2004, 06:29 AM
Hama?

nynnd1
05-04-2004, 06:31 AM
Is it a man of Rohan?

samwise8504
05-04-2004, 07:17 AM
theodred

symestreem
05-04-2004, 02:04 PM
NightKnight is correct! It is Hama, son of Helm Hammerhand.

NightKnight
05-12-2004, 09:28 AM
Deathless, ageless, forever searching for a long lost love.

nynnd1
05-17-2004, 11:33 AM
It's got to be Treebeard.
:D

NightKnight
05-17-2004, 12:55 PM
It is. :D

Gil-Galad
05-27-2004, 04:44 PM
10 days so i guess i'll try ...



in anger I rode, in disgrace I ran, fell by darkness, lifted into the light, rested afar, never shall be reached, never shall be found...Who Am I?


kinda easy and hard

Fingolfin II
05-27-2004, 10:16 PM
Eol?

NightKnight
05-28-2004, 04:01 AM
Fëanor?

nynnd1
05-28-2004, 05:22 AM
Hurin

Gil-Galad
05-28-2004, 03:58 PM
nope natta sorry, no

Fingolfin II
05-28-2004, 09:37 PM
Ah! Fingolfin?

Gil-Galad
05-29-2004, 07:41 AM
its right, but i would like to hear your reasons...

Fingolfin II
05-29-2004, 07:49 PM
Ok, well Fingolfin rode in anger after he saw what he though what was 'the complete overthrow of all the Houses of the Noldor' (or something like that), he ran from Valinor in disgrace after the Kinslaying, he fell by darkness (killed by Morgoth), and was lifted up into the mountains by Thorondor. And I think it says somewhere that his grave was never disturbed until treachery was born in his kin or something. Whew!

Gil-Galad
06-04-2004, 09:03 PM
in anger I rode-yep
in disgrace I ran-yep
fell by darkness-yep...again (scary)
lifted into the light- Eagles were beings of the valar of light (manwe)
rested afar-grave in moutins, around gondolin
never shall be reached-mountains around gondolin have never been surpassed
never shall be found- went down with sinking of beleriand


but overall you did pretty good, your go!

Fingolfin II
06-05-2004, 02:32 AM
Try this one out for size-

I fought unarmed and was born twice.

The Perky Ent
06-05-2004, 08:17 AM
Well...if you think Gandalf's staff isn't a weapon, then Gandalf. He fought the Balrog un-armed (I know it's wrong) and died at ZiragZigil, but was reborn courtesy of the Valar.

Elwe Singollo
06-05-2004, 09:43 AM
Although he seemed to manage to keep Glamdring.

I say Finrod. He fought the wolf that tried to eat Beren and himself (Draugluin perhaps it was) with his bare hands and he died. But then it says "But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar." So he was reborn for the second time.

luthien-elvenprincess
06-05-2004, 09:49 AM
I will answer Beren. He fought against Carcharoth with only one hand (unarmed), and he was allowed to come back from the dead in honor of Luthien's request (born twice).

Fingolfin II
06-05-2004, 07:40 PM
Good answers everyone, and right in their own way, but Elwe Singollo has the one I'm looking for, so he's up :).

Son of Númenor
06-05-2004, 07:46 PM
with only one hand (unarmed) Heh heh.

Elwe Singollo
06-06-2004, 06:53 AM
Ok guys here goes.

King of realm within,
Was hidden the bride of man,
Betrayed by son of sister,
High King for a time,
Until rule passed to,
The star of radiance.
Brother of Valiant,
Brother of beauty
Son of leader of his kind.

Gil-Galad
06-06-2004, 07:25 PM
too easy...Turgon...

Elwe Singollo
06-07-2004, 04:25 AM
I thought it was a bit easy too.

Your turn Gil-Galad

Gil-Galad
06-07-2004, 06:26 AM
righti-o!

died twice in each born,
once for greed,
other for land,
but i died aganest smaller foes...who am I?


it might be too easy as well...

Elwe Singollo
06-07-2004, 06:43 AM
Saruman?

Gil-Galad
06-07-2004, 03:20 PM
i wouldn't make it that easy...

Fingolfin II
06-08-2004, 04:01 AM
Thingol?

Gil-Galad
06-08-2004, 06:33 AM
close but no...i would like you to explain your anwsers as well

Elwe Singollo
06-27-2004, 02:14 AM
Hers Goes:

Slain by own means.

The Perky Ent
06-27-2004, 09:07 AM
Just a random guess...Turin?

Gil-Galad
06-27-2004, 09:47 AM
actually, doesn't it count if a person tried too anwser yet there was no reply? seeing how i still replyed....if doesn't count i'll give the anwser out too anyone whos wondering

Elwe Singollo
06-27-2004, 03:28 PM
Perky: Turin was killed by his own means but not who I'm thinking of.

Gil-galad: I think if a quiz thread is left unposted in for 10 days then it becomes free for all.

Fingolfin II
06-27-2004, 05:59 PM
Could it be Denethor II? He killed himself in the fire, so I suppose it was by his own means...

The Saucepan Man
06-27-2004, 06:31 PM
Gil-galad: I think if a quiz thread is left unposted in for 10 days then it becomes free for all.Correct. It's up to the question-setter to keep their question going if they don't want it to lapse.

Gil-Galad
06-27-2004, 06:50 PM
well the anwser was Mablung just too let you know...


died twice in each born, - died once as elf (first born) and as man (second born)
once for greed, - aganest dwarves who were pludering
other for land, - defended Osgiliath
but i died aganest smaller foes...who am I? dwarves and orcs were smaller foes

Elwe Singollo
06-28-2004, 03:20 AM
Sorry Fingolfin. Not Denethor either.

Gil-galad: I thought on this thing the person had to the the same. Like I would understand if it was someone like Glorfindel who was the same person (or supposedly). But Mablung is a man and an elf.

Gil-Galad
06-28-2004, 06:33 AM
hey did have the same...the same name! if you look alot of Who Am I's include hints that direct too 2 different people with the same name!

Elwe Singollo
06-28-2004, 11:26 AM
Anymore guesses anyone?

Gil-Galad
06-28-2004, 12:56 PM
Sauron...in a way


Drinking panda!

http://www.battle.net/war3/images/general/drunkenpanda.gif

Elwe Singollo
06-28-2004, 02:51 PM
nope

The Perky Ent
06-28-2004, 04:04 PM
Nice drinking panda! Somelike likes Warcraft ;) anyways, >_< D'oh! Sauron was my guess, but I guess now I have to come up with a new one. Hmmm, how abouts...hmm, tuffy! Oh! I gots one! Gollum! He died when he jumped in the fires, and wasn't pushed like it is in the movie. So, gollum?

Elwe Singollo
06-29-2004, 10:31 AM
No.

You people eally need to try a different approach.

This person didn't kill himself.

Mithalwen
06-29-2004, 12:09 PM
Beleg - slain by his own sword when cutting Turin's bonds?

Elwe Singollo
06-30-2004, 02:59 AM
Beleg - slain by his own sword when cutting Turin's bonds?

Correct Mithalwen. Your turn.

symestreem
07-19-2004, 12:29 PM
*bump* Mithalwen?

Gil-Galad
07-19-2004, 12:30 PM
well we could have made a new question...

nynnd1
07-20-2004, 04:10 AM
I say new question i tried thinking of one but my mind went blank.

Dont let the thread go, its too good to go, save the thread. ;)

symestreem
07-20-2004, 09:57 AM
I PMed Mithalwen about this thread yesterday, so now we should wait, in the interests of politeness.

Mithalwen
07-20-2004, 01:20 PM
:( Sorry everyone..this slipped through the net.....

"Lost, I was found and sheltered for a time. Flight in the night - I left a trace in mortal race, but of myself no sign"

elfwishes999
07-20-2004, 01:54 PM
maybe the One Ring?

Mithalwen
07-21-2004, 11:45 AM
No not the ring ...or indeed any ring... :)

Morsul the Dark
07-21-2004, 12:09 PM
the witch king?

he was lost because his ring consumed him Sauron sheltered him his city minas morgul still stands but any trace of him or his greastness otherwise is gone?

Mithalwen
07-21-2004, 12:41 PM
No the person is rather more obscure.... the "trace" will be more familiar to most than the actual person.....and a little extra clue - I used "lost" literally not metaphorically .......

Gil-Galad
07-21-2004, 02:21 PM
Tuor?

symestreem
07-21-2004, 05:18 PM
Is it Amroth, by any chance?

Gil-Galad
07-21-2004, 05:22 PM
good guess symestream!

Fingolfin II
07-22-2004, 01:06 AM
It was a good guess syemestreem, but I'm going to guess Mithrellas, who was lost in the woods and found by Imrazor.

Mithalwen
07-22-2004, 11:23 AM
Fingolfin - this is spooky - you are obviously tuned into the same wavelength and know how my twisted mind works LOL - and now you have to think of 2 riddles at once :D

Fingolfin II
07-23-2004, 12:52 AM
Haha, call it luck or coincidence, or whatever you want :). Now for another riddle, hmm...let's see...ah! (This is very easy, this one.)

Shrouded in mist, dark as the Night, I instilled fear into He Who Arises in Might.

Gil-Galad
07-23-2004, 10:15 AM
yes easy...too easy

Ungoliant

Fingolfin II
07-23-2004, 09:50 PM
Gil-galad is absolutely right!

Gil-Galad
07-24-2004, 12:35 PM
well yeah... heres easy one of you read more then just LOTR and the Silmarillion


i wandered, i listened, to the little fellow, to the couple in the house, Who Am I?

elfwishes999
07-26-2004, 12:10 PM
was it a nazgul? he wandered around the shire and listened to the hobbits when they told him where the bagginses were..

Gil-Galad
07-26-2004, 01:10 PM
nope! hint The Lost Tales 1 and 2

Morsul the Dark
07-26-2004, 03:15 PM
Eriol the mariner?

Gil-Galad
07-26-2004, 03:49 PM
sure, but reasons would be gratified...

Morsul the Dark
07-26-2004, 04:02 PM
well he wass always wondering and the listened to tales in the coottage of lost play then to a gnome

Gil-Galad
07-26-2004, 04:03 PM
can't make you spelling out completel, but its your turn anyway

Morsul the Dark
07-26-2004, 04:11 PM
My name is long
My Heart strong
True Friends few
Two Friends new
My kind is doomed

Gil-Galad
07-26-2004, 04:12 PM
not hard at all


Aragorn

Morsul the Dark
07-26-2004, 04:13 PM
well you're wrong

elfwishes999
07-26-2004, 06:42 PM
i'm gonna say Legolas..

Morsul the Dark
07-26-2004, 06:48 PM
nope sorry

Evisse the Blue
07-27-2004, 02:11 AM
A-ha. I think it's Treebeard.

Morsul the Dark
07-27-2004, 04:35 AM
It is but please for the studio audience list your reasons

Evisse the Blue
07-27-2004, 05:26 AM
Ick! *lunges for the book*

My name is long - he says so: "my name is like a story, it would take a very long time to tell"
My Heart strong - he says that Ents are stronger than trolls, made from the bones of the earth.
True Friends few - he says that nobody's on his side and nobody cares for the woods
Two Friends new - Merry and Pippin
My kind is doomed - no entwives, no entlings.

Morsul the Dark
07-27-2004, 07:59 AM
indeed go ahead

Morsul the Dark
08-05-2004, 09:49 AM
"pokes Evisse" our turn...

Evisse the Blue
08-05-2004, 01:49 PM
"'Said goodbye to a friend who vanished in the dark,
But he came on to light,
While blackness has covered me."

Not one of the best, but oh well...

Mithalwen
08-08-2004, 12:34 PM
A shot in the dark ..... Earendil's fellow mariners...?

Evisse the Blue
08-08-2004, 01:06 PM
Nope, that's not who I had in mind.

Morsul the Dark
08-18-2004, 01:49 PM
10 day rule...

One of two twice
Protector of Two
Taker of three
And one of nine

this ione is hard so Ill give hints after a few guesses

The Perky Ent
08-18-2004, 03:47 PM
Aragorn?

NightKnight
08-18-2004, 03:49 PM
Morgoth?

Morsul the Dark
08-18-2004, 03:49 PM
nope...by the way for this one I want an explanation on why its them...

The Perky Ent
08-18-2004, 03:53 PM
Boromir? I'm just taking a stab. If I'm right, then I'll explain it!

Morsul the Dark
08-18-2004, 03:54 PM
well boromir is right but why?

The Perky Ent
08-18-2004, 03:57 PM
Um...ok.

One of two twice - He is really Boromir II?
Protector of Two - Protected Merry and Pippin
Taker of three - he took Aragorn and legolas with him somewhere?
And one of nine - one of the fellowship, which had nine people


I have no idea for taker of three!

Morsul the Dark
08-18-2004, 03:59 PM
eh well go ahead but ill explain

one of two twice- one of two sons... one of two men in the fellowship
taker of three-he was shot with three arrows
proector-you got this right
and on of nine-easily right

The Perky Ent
08-18-2004, 04:05 PM
oh! D'oh! I shoud have known! Oh well!


Here's the next one:

The brave
The departer
The challenger
The failed
The betrayed
The burned

Morsul the Dark
08-18-2004, 04:08 PM
Faramir

He was brave
He departed from Minas Tirith to guard Ithilien
Challenged the orcs that overan Osgiliath
Failed to Win
betrayed by Denetor
Burned by denetor

The Perky Ent
08-18-2004, 04:09 PM
Nope, although that's a good guess.

Morsul the Dark
08-18-2004, 04:13 PM
Gandalf

Brave yeah he was
Departed for Valinor in the end
Challenged a Balrog
Failed to see the dangers of the ring earlier
Betrayed by Saruman
Are you telling me while fight a giant Fire monster he didnt get burned! actually cant think of one for this

The Perky Ent
08-18-2004, 04:17 PM
Negatory!

Gil-Galad
08-18-2004, 06:41 PM
maedhros

Tuor of Gondolin
08-18-2004, 06:56 PM
How about Denethor?

The Perky Ent
08-18-2004, 07:43 PM
Nope. Gil-Galad was close. Here's a hint: They're all one, but each is seperate!

Morsul the Dark
08-18-2004, 07:50 PM
uing my friends psycic ability I will make him guess for me

he says Eomer so I will say Eomer(my friend knows nothing so this is wrong)

The Perky Ent
08-19-2004, 06:13 PM
Nope!

Morsul the Dark
08-19-2004, 06:24 PM
Denetor

The Perky Ent
08-19-2004, 06:27 PM
Nope.

Tuor of Gondolin
08-19-2004, 06:51 PM
Turin?

The Perky Ent
08-19-2004, 07:30 PM
No sir!

Gil-Galad
08-19-2004, 07:45 PM
Melkor? maybe even Feanor? or Finwe?

The Perky Ent
08-19-2004, 07:48 PM
It's not Morgoth. As for Feanor and Finwe, it's not the right answer, but it's right! Think about it!

Gil-Galad
08-19-2004, 07:51 PM
I think your toying around with me...

The Perky Ent
08-19-2004, 07:52 PM
No! Figure it out! They're all right, but not the right answer! Solve my riddle!

Gil-Galad
08-19-2004, 07:56 PM
could even be the Noldor

The brave-most of the princes
The departer-Kin-Stryfe
The challenger-Fingolfin
The failed-Noldor for retreiving all silmarils
The betrayed- feanor and fingolfin
The burned-all i can think of is the burning of the boats

The Perky Ent
08-19-2004, 07:57 PM
No! Think! Finwe was correct! Feanor was correct! Ok, you're still not getting it, so here's a large hint. 6 DIFFERENT QUESTIONS!

Gil-Galad
08-19-2004, 08:00 PM
Your COnfusing me now...

Morsul the Dark
08-19-2004, 08:01 PM
i think i get the clue but i dont know the answer...Gil there are six answers...Im assuming theyre part of a family or something

The Perky Ent
08-19-2004, 08:02 PM
Yes! Now you're getting it!

Gil-Galad
08-19-2004, 08:04 PM
SoF then?

The brave
The departer
The challenger
The failed
The betrayed
The burned

i can't think right now but they'll fit in

Morsul the Dark
08-19-2004, 08:04 PM
so Gil I just helped you i dont know the answer so its up to you

Gil-Galad
08-19-2004, 08:05 PM
The brave-Finwe
The departer-FInarfin
The challenger-
The failed-feanor
The betrayed-Fingolfin
The burned-

not sure about rest...i'm thinking finwe and Co.

The Perky Ent
08-19-2004, 08:06 PM
No, not the sons of Feanor! What do Finwe and Feanor have in common, besides the fact that they were related.

The Perky Ent
08-19-2004, 08:07 PM
Gil-Galad! You are really, really close! Do you know what you're doing? There's six! You're so close, but they aren't in order!

Gil-Galad
08-19-2004, 08:09 PM
The brave-Finwe
The departer-Feanor
The challenger-Fingolfin
The failed-Finarfin
The betrayed
The burned


not sure about rest...i'm trying to put them in order

The Perky Ent
08-19-2004, 08:10 PM
No no no! It's in order, except for Finarfin! He's not in there! Now what do those people have in common! What were they all?

Morsul the Dark
08-20-2004, 12:45 AM
they were all high elves is it "the high elves?

Evisse the Blue
08-20-2004, 02:35 AM
They were Noldor?

The Perky Ent
08-20-2004, 03:18 PM
Not just High Elves! Take it a step further. What's their title?

Morsul the Dark
08-20-2004, 03:47 PM
Eldar?

Gil-Galad
08-20-2004, 04:00 PM
FIrst Born?

The Perky Ent
08-20-2004, 06:16 PM
No! What are they? What are they all. Not about race, or division. What makes them different then every other Noldor. What responcibility to they have?

Fingolfin II
08-20-2004, 07:56 PM
I didn't want to say this because it is probably too obvious, but they were all High Kings of the Noldor?

The Perky Ent
08-20-2004, 11:01 PM
YES! FINALLY! YES, IT IS OBVIOUS! THEY ARE ALL HIGH KINGS OF THE NOLDOR. THE ANSWER IS, HIGH KING OF THE NORDOR!

The brave - Finwe - He alone faced Morgoth
The departer - Feanor - Departed Aman
The challenger - Fingolfin - Challenged Morgoth
The failed - Fingon - His attempt to win the Nirnaeth Arnoediad failed
The betrayed - Turgon - betrayed by Maeglin
The burned - Gil-Galad - Sauron grabbed him, and burned him



It was that simple! Congragulations Fingolfin! Truly! Your go!

Fingolfin II
08-21-2004, 01:32 AM
Thanks Perky. I was actually going to give reasons, but since you've done them for me....oh well.

I am one of the true half-elves. Who am I?

Three answers here.

Morsul the Dark
08-21-2004, 01:36 AM
this wrong since its too obvious

Elrond?or wait do we need all three?

and actually Dior would make most sense i guess

Dior elrond elros?

Fingolfin II
08-21-2004, 02:44 AM
Nope, sorry Morsul :confused:.

The Perky Ent
08-21-2004, 05:49 AM
Earendil?

Fingolfin II
08-21-2004, 06:36 AM
That's one of the answers. Now I want two more ;).

The Perky Ent
08-21-2004, 07:29 AM
Dior, Earendil, and Eldarion!

NightKnight
08-21-2004, 12:14 PM
Eärendil, Luthien and Galador.

Fingolfin II
08-21-2004, 06:43 PM
NightKnight is correct :).

NightKnight
08-22-2004, 04:18 AM
I am the last living of the first who saw the light. Who am I?

The Perky Ent
08-22-2004, 08:49 AM
Is it Indis? She's the youngest living Vanyar that survived?

NightKnight
08-23-2004, 01:44 PM
Your reasoning is way off, but not your answer. ;)

The Perky Ent
08-23-2004, 05:40 PM
Alright...so I go now? Alright!

The faithful and steadfast

Morsul the Dark
08-23-2004, 05:41 PM
lets see

I know a few people meeting this qulification let us start with the nost obvious

Sam

The Perky Ent
08-23-2004, 05:49 PM
Nithagope! (Nope!)

Morsul the Dark
08-23-2004, 05:52 PM
Was that gibberush? if so ill say
Farhasmirshamalala(Faramir)

The Perky Ent
08-23-2004, 05:55 PM
Don't you mean Fithagar ithaga mithagear? (Faramir!)

Nope!

Morsul the Dark
08-23-2004, 05:57 PM
moving along

Gandalf

The Perky Ent
08-23-2004, 05:58 PM
Nope!

Fingolfin II
08-24-2004, 12:42 AM
Sam?

NightKnight
08-24-2004, 05:47 AM
Actually, you weren't right, so my question still stands. I was just saying that you were close. :p

The Perky Ent
08-24-2004, 04:23 PM
Hmm...no Indis? Oh well...

Valier
12-17-2005, 10:58 PM
I will guess shadowfax?

Urwen
03-13-2010, 06:04 AM
Is it Hurin? Thalion=Steadfast.

The Might
03-13-2010, 06:42 AM
I guess that five years later we could just as well restart the thread with a new question.
And since you probably got it right anyway, go ahead Urwen. ;)

Urwen
04-23-2010, 01:10 AM
I dwelled in shadow
of a shadow.

I used to weep
yet now I live with sheep.


I wasn't a hater
now I dwell in water.


Who am I?

Pitchwife
04-25-2010, 02:27 PM
No idea, but since you're the one who's asking, it's probably Tar-Miriel:p;)
Seriously, the only thing that rings a bell is sheep = Erendis (or possibly Ancalime), but I'm not sure how the rest of the riddle fits either. With all of Númenor, including their graves, being submerged, you can I suppose say they now dwell in water; the 'shadow of a shadow' remains puzzling.

Urwen
04-25-2010, 02:33 PM
You are correct with Erendis. Shadow of the shadow is other name for story
'Aldarion and Erendis'. Your turn!

(And as for 'the water', Erendis died in water.);)

Pitchwife
04-25-2010, 02:42 PM
*insert light bulb smiley*
Ah, I quite forgot about that title. Nice. (Poor Erendis, btw - considering how she loathed the sea, it must be hard for her to be buried at the bottom of the ocean now...:( But then again, her true self is with Ilúvatar, I guess.)
Thanks, I'll try to think of something; give me a day or two.

Pitchwife
04-29-2010, 02:57 PM
OK, here goes:
I am one of two and of seven, the last and the first. Who am I?

Legate of Amon Lanc
05-01-2010, 12:49 AM
Durin is boring and probably not correct, right? :)

Galadriel
05-01-2010, 03:31 AM
No harp is wrung, no hammer falls,
The darkness dwells in Durins halls...

Urwen
05-01-2010, 11:04 AM
Or maybe Amras?

Pitchwife
05-02-2010, 04:00 AM
Durin is anything but boring and not quite unfitting the description either, but unfortunately not correct.
Urwen, you've almost got it.

Urwen
05-02-2010, 04:10 AM
Amrod?

Pitchwife
05-02-2010, 04:17 AM
Yep, it's Amrod (aka A/Umbarto). Can you explain why?
Anyway, the thread is yours.:)

Urwen
05-02-2010, 04:25 AM
Right.

My father and five uncles died. My sixth uncle is alive but gone. Who am I?

Pitchwife
05-02-2010, 04:37 AM
Celebrimbor?
Father = Curufin (according to one version of his pedigree), five dead uncles = Maedhros, Celegorm, Caranthir, Amrod and Amros, sixth uncle = Maglor (not reported to have died, but came never again among Elves).

(And the explanation for my last one was: youngest of Feanor's seven sons = born last, one of two twins, first of the seven to die = burnt with the ships in Losgar.)

Urwen
05-02-2010, 04:40 AM
Carry on.:D

Pitchwife
05-02-2010, 04:48 AM
Is that a yes?

Urwen
05-02-2010, 05:47 AM
It is!