Who Am I?

[Pitchwife]

Thanks!:)
Another one about family relations (should be fairly easy):

Father was a wizard's friend,
Brother went to sea,
Poison I, my son renowned -
Guess who I may be!

[Urwen]

Celebrian?

[Pitchwife]

Sorry, nope.

[Urwen]

Aredhel?:)

[Pitchwife]

Not her either.

[Urwen]

My last attempt.If this isn't right,I'll retreat for a while.

Eowyn?

[Pitchwife]

Sorry to disappoint you yet again, but it's not Éowyn either.
To keep you from further following the wrong track, note that it says "poison", not "poisoned".

[Urwen]

Ah.Is this person on side of Light or side of Darkness?

[Pitchwife]

Light or darkness? Hmmm. A brighter shade of grey, I suppose. Like most people. I don't think the person in question really bothered about such things.

[Urwen]

Let me rephrase it then.Does he/she work for Morgoth/ Sauron or not?

[Pitchwife]

S/he would never dream of doing such an indecent thing. (Indeed most likely s/he never worked at all, be it for whomsoever.)

[Urwen]

Ha.I know it-Elanor! The flower she was named after could be poison if used improperly

[Mnemosyne]

The flower she was named after could be poison if used improperly

There is no evidence for that in canon. Just sayin'. (And no, I don't have a guess for this riddle!)

[Urwen]

BTW,his/her father was a friend of a which wizard?:confused:

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Now now! That's a bit too concrete request, isn't it? I would like to keep the hints more vague, at least. And you are not the only one who is thinking about it, Urwen (even though it might seem like that to you). I think I have some good idea right now actually, but have to think. Time! I need time... (no, unlike as for Bilbo Baggins, this is not my answer :) )

[Pitchwife]

No, it's not Elanor (see Mnemo's comment)... but that was a lot closer than anything else up to now.
As for the wizard, Legate is quite right, but being in a I generous mood today I'll tell you it was neither Alatar nor Pallando.:p

[Nerwen]

Belladonna Took.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Belladonna Took.

So casual, so obvious. You put us all into shame. I was starting to think that it was an object, but apparently...

[Pitchwife]

Nerwen, you've got it! It's the Old Took's remarkable daughter, of course. Belladonna berries are poisonous; her father was a friend of Gandalf's (see The Hobbit); her brother Isengar was said to have 'gone to sea' in his youth (see LotR Appendix C); and she was Bilbo's mom - 'nuff said.
Nice guessing. Please proceed!

[Nerwen]

Since Urwen wants me to hurry up:

Evil silenced all my laughter;
Fortunate, for what came after.

[Urwen]

Hahahaha! Pretty devious to use my namesake as answer to this!*evil laugh*:smokin:

[Nerwen]

Very good.

Your turn, Urwen.

[Urwen]

GO power of NAMESAKES!

And now,I'll pay ya back for all times you insulted her:

My love was strong
But I decided it to prolong.

We had a plan
to desert our clan.

Fiery monster cut off my way
as my kin say.

I found resemblance to a thing dear,in the world so vast
and I will for eternity last.

Who am I?

[Andsigil]

Gil-Galad?

[Urwen]

No.When did he and one other made up a plan to desert their kin?

[Urwen]

Ok.I'll give a more subtle hint:

The speaker lasted for eternity literally,not metaphorically.;)

He/she is never told to die.

And it's NOT Maglor!;)

Oh,and I forgot to mention that the speaker owns grey object?

Hope that helps...


Have at it!!!!

[Beorn of Carrock]

It's Earendil?

[Urwen]

That's very original answer,but no.Earendil doesn't own a grey object.

Although it is connected to the Sea.;)

Oh,and the speaker is not evil.

[Urwen]

I'll connect it


My love was strong
But I decided it to prolong.

We had a plan
to desert our clan.

Fiery monster cut off my way
as my kin say.

I found resemblance to a thing dear,in the world so vast
and I will for eternity last.

Grey object I owned
and in song I was renowned.

Who am I?

[Beorn of Carrock]

So Luthien?:rolleyes:

[Urwen]

No. Though it is a woman...

Time for a little more direct hint.

One line in song is 'Riding like a swan'....

Ha!

[Nerwen]

Nimrodel, then.
I thought it might be, from this line:

We had a plan
to desert our clan.

But I couldn't quite make sense of the rest– is "fiery monster" a metaphor for storm?

Also, if Nimrodel were still alive, wouldn't she have turned up eventually?

[Beorn of Carrock]

So, what's the grey object of her?

[Urwen]

Fiery monster is Balrog of Moria.

And grey object she owned were her shoes.

And I simply meant she is not reported to have died.

Anyway,it is Nimrodel. Carry on...:D

[Urwen]

3. A thread may be considered stagnant if after at least 10 days:

no new question has been asked following confirmation of a correct answer, or
no response has been given by the question setter to the last answer.In addition, a thread may be considered stagnant if there has been no new post for 10 days or more. In any of these circumstances, anyone may ask a new question on the topic.

Following this rule,I'll pop in.With this:

Fiery am I
eloquent am I
angry am I
nothing stands in my way but
obligation
rough am I at times

Who am I?

[Eorl of Rohan]

Feanor? Wasn't the meaning of his name Flame?

[Urwen]

Hahaha.Righty.

[Eorl of Rohan]

I tainted their white pride with red
but stood aside while the red turned to black

I'd have betrayed if not betrayed
My yet another betrayal was with faith repaid

Sought the end but was paid in loss
Yet none shall claim in gratitude I was lacking

My high hopes welded the children
adopted and born and the beloved youngest

In the darkness resigned plunged I,
My high delight set ablaze to grief and despair

[Loslote]

Maedhros?

I tainted their white pride with red (Teleri ships stained with blood)
but stood aside while the red turned to black (stood aside when the ships were burned)

I'd have betrayed if not betrayed (he would have betrayed Morgoth at the peace meeting, only Morgoth beat him to it)
My yet another betrayal was with faith repaid (not sure about this one)

Sought the end but was paid in loss (the end of his vow; he lost the Silmarils)
Yet none shall claim in gratitude I was lacking (he was grateful to the Valar for defeating Morgoth)

My high hopes welded the children (not sure about welded, but the children could refer to Elros and Elrond)
adopted and born and the beloved youngest (again, he adopted Elros and Elrond)

In the darkness resigned plunged I, (he threw himself into a volcano)
My high delight set ablaze to grief and despair (he won the Silmaril, but no longer had a claim to it)

[Eorl of Rohan]

Yes, it is Maedhros. Good guess, Loslote. You got the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 9th lines correct.

(4) My yet another betrayal was with faith repaid -> Fingon repaid Maedhros with faith by freeing him from the menacles
(5) Sought the end but was paid in loss -> He sought to die, and asked Fingon to kill him, but was paid by the loss of a hand
(6) Yet none shall claim in gratitude I was lacking -> He was grateful to Fingon despite him having cut off his hand
(7) My high hopes welded the children -> The children refer to the Firstborn (Elves), the Children of Men (Men), and the children of Ainu (Dwarves) -> They were welded in an alliance against the Dark Lord
(8) adopted and born and the beloved youngest -> Eru Illuvatar calls the dwarves his adopted children, while the Firstborn is his children by creation, and the beloved youngest is of course the children of Men, the Secondborn.
(10) My high delight set ablaze to grief and despair -> The Silmaril burned Maedhros' hand, which drove him to grief and despair.



PS. Loslote, if you have a bit of free time, come join us in our Shire Roleplay "Homeward Bound"~

[Loslote]

Thanks. :)

My sister dear, in wild woods
Wandered far from home.

My lord and husband always would
Follow her under stary dome.

I, in golden gardens blooming
Happy danced with sister-in-law,

While songs, from tiny beauties singing,
Mingled with the raucous caw.

Famous I am not, for no great deeds
Have my hands performed.

But one who left my side for a steed
Is everywhere beloved.

Who am I?

[Urwen]

Vana..

[Loslote]

Vana..

Exactly! Do you want to explain the lines or shall I? ;)

[Urwen]

Well,you,please...

And here:

Born in happy place
with smile on my face

My brother left bliss
and he ended in unhapiness

And although we're apart
he'll always stay in my heart.

Who am I?



It's a bit tricky...

[Loslote]

Alright then...

My sister dear, in wild woods
Wandered far from home. (Yavanna wandered in the woods of Middle Earth, very far away from Valinor)

My lord and husband always would
Follow her under stary dome. (Orome, her husband, was the other one who wandered there)

I, in golden gardens blooming (the gardens of Laurelin)
Happy danced with sister-in-law, (Nessa, the dancer, was Orome's sister)

While songs, from tiny beauties singing, (tiny beauties being birds)
Mingled with the raucous caw. (caw from a crow, another bird - "the birds sang at her passing")

Famous I am not, for no great deeds
Have my hands performed. (Well, yeah)

But one who left my side for a steed (Arien, for her "steed" the sun)
Is everywhere beloved. (Well, everyone loves the sun!)

~~~

Okay, if the answer's Lalaith, I'm going to laugh, but I don't think that would be "a bit tricky". ;)

[Nerwen]

Okay, if the answer's Lalaith, I'm going to laugh, but I don't think that would be "a bit tricky". ;)

The trouble is, it does sound like Lalaith, doesn't it?

[satansaloser2005]

The trouble is, it does sound like Lalaith, doesn't it?

Is it sad that I thought that too? Or is it just that obvious? :rolleyes:

[Urwen]

No,not Lalaith...:D

[Beorn of Carrock]

Well,you,please...

And here:

Born in happy place
with smile on my face

My brother left bliss
and he ended in unhapiness

And although we're apart
he'll always stay in my heart.

Who am I?



It's a bit tricky...

I say Elrond.

[Urwen]

No.
a little hint:HoME

[Urwen]

Come on,guess! It's not that hard!

[Ibrîniðilpathânezel]

I'll guess, then. Galadriel (born in the bliss of Valinor, her brother Finrod left and died in Middle-earth, he was reborn in Valinor, while she remained an exile Middle-earth).

I hope I'm not right. I'm terrible when it comes to making up riddles. Write a novel, great, I'm cool, but a riddle... nope. ;)

[Urwen]

No. I think you should pay more attention to a word "smile"

[satansaloser2005]

Born in happy place
with smile on my face

My brother left bliss
and he ended in unhapiness

And although we're apart
he'll always stay in my heart.

Who am I?



Well I'm pretty sure I have a good response to this, since you're being ever so impatient and want an answer. I have to get back to work but I'll be on tonight and will explain my answer fully. *leaves you all in anticipation*

[Urwen]

*sigh* The answer is Lalwen...

I'll set up an easier riddle:

I betrayed my folks with my confusion
upon seeing and ilussion.

Dishonourable death I had
and with cruelty I was killed.

Who am I?

[Pitchwife]

Are you a bird? Are you a plane? Is your name by any chance Rumpelstiltskin?
None of the above? Thought so. Alright then, you're Gorlim.

(PS. - Lalwen (=Lalwendë=Írien/Írimë, right?) was a nice one, but she went into exile with Fingolfin, didn't she, so why were they 'apart'?)

[satansaloser2005]

I don't know, Pitch, Rumplie and the like used illusion. She's talking about ilussion, which is something completely different. I don't think the answer's going to be that simple, not with that specific of word choice. Wow, it's difficult....



Incidentally, I had a really clever response, but decided not to use it. Me. (I was born in a town whose meaning is very roughly "happy", I grinned a lot as a baby, and I grew up apart from my idiot brother who is a very strange child.) I also really considered using something from another fandom just to spice things up and keep Urwen's impatience at bay, but couldn't find anyone who worked with whom I could sufficiently snark. It disappointed me to no end. You know me!

[Urwen]

Well,it is 'that simple'!:D

Please continue...

And by apart,I mean because of his death.

[Pitchwife]

Sorry for forgetting about this thread - I really shouldn't solve any riddles without a new one in petto...
Anyway. This should be fairly easy:

The west wind's breath made flesh I'm not,
On my foot there is no wing;
I rarely gallop, rather trot,
But I'm the namesake of the King.

[Mnemosyne]

Strider the pony?

[Pitchwife]

Indeed! Thread is yours.

[Mnemosyne]

Oh, my... I had quite forgotten about this...

If you give me a week I should be able to come up with a good riddle.

[Urwen]

*sigh* Two months already... so I'll do it again. If you don't want me doing this so often, then I suggest you use your turns properly....

Anyway, it'll be uber easy this time

Happy was I, I danced a lot
Till my lover came along
My 'greedy' father demanded exchange
So we had to be strong

Old friends of our kind
Sent us great help
But in this situation I can do nothing
But wait and weep

In the end it all went fine
Thanks to invoking unexpected pity
Now we could in peace dine
and live our life in hidden city

(Now the last line was meant to drive people off the right track)

[Kyranger]

Lúthien?

[Urwen]

Oh, well, you gotcha'ed it with one guess. I didn't know it would be THAT easy...

Your turn.

[Urwen]

Hello? Have people abandoned this thread?

I'll give it one more try. And if someone guesses right and doesn't take a tun, I'll have to start a new thread. With list of people who guessed right, but didn't take a turn?

I wandered in dark woods,
there I met my fate,
my helmet was red
but I didn't serve Morgoth nor hate.

In first age I lived my day
alone at first, some might say.
bu lonliness didn't last long,
but while it did, I stayed strong

In dark woods I met my spouse,
That one old chap, named after Greek God,
my child and I later
on familiar way decide to trod.

In my home
bright and happy
I received a spear
sticking out of my belly.

Who am I?

And please, take the turn after you;ve guessed correctly.

[satansaloser2005]

As I'm sure you're aware, Urwen, people on this site have lives offline as well, and sometimes their real life commitments overshadow the continuation of your game. If someone forgets their turn, please do be patient with them, as most of us are adults and have jobs, families, and (heaven forbid) social lives to deal with that don't involve the Downs.

I'm sure most people are more than happy to participate in various activities on the Downs, this thread included, but pressuring us to respond is, I assure you, not the way to facilitate cooperation, and creating a new thread to shame people who have better things to do than reply to your posts is not the way we encourage participation on this site.

Please do be respectful of others' commitments and behave accordingly. Thank you.

~~Sally~~

[Evisse the Blue]

Aredhel, am I right? : >

[ElleandrillStar]

hey guys can i join your game?:)

[Mithalwen]

Since the ten day rule hasvlong passed feel free to set a new puzzle, and welcome!

[Urwen]

Anyone up for re-starting this? (Looking at you, Huinesoron)

[Urwen]

So no one wants to re-start this?

[Urwen]

Nobody seems to be 'round, even though it's not weekend anymore.

[Urwen]

Anybody there?

[Huinesoron]

I wanted to go south, but wound up going north. This turned out not to be a great plan.

Who am I?

hS

[Urwen]

Tar-Telperien? :D

[Huinesoron]

Nope.

And also... wha'?

hS

[Urwen]

Well, she is one of your favorites. ;)

[Urwen]

Seriously, though, I can't recall anyone like that from the top of my head. Did they live in the First age? Because First age is my area of expertise.

[Urwen]

But I did find this:

The goblins assembled at Mount Gundabad and were about to sweep southward when they learned of the death of Smaug. Altering their plans, the goblins marched by night through the mountains and appeared unexpectedly at Erebor
Relevant?

[Huinesoron]

Sadly that quote isn't at all relevant. And this is a Third Age character.

Tar-Telperien amuses me, mostly because I can credibly insist she's a Nazgul. ^_^ But she's not great for games.

hS

[Urwen]

So this character has some connection to games? But your puzzle doesn't mention any games.

[Huinesoron]

So this character has some connection to games? But your puzzle doesn't mention any games.

... we're playing a game, Urwen. Tar-T is a barely-described character, so she's not good for things like riddles and questions.

hS

[Urwen]

Still, there are too many characters that lived in the third age.

[Galadriel55]

How about Arvedui? Had some plans about being the High King and going to Gondor or something like that, but instead went up to the Bay of Forochel. Which did not end well for Arvedui.

[Huinesoron]

Still, there are too many characters that lived in the third age.

Yes, there are a lot of characters in Middle-earth. That's why these games work. If this was the Mr. Bliss Forum, we couldn't play them, because we'd just run through the same list of 8 or so characters over and over.

How about Arvedui? Had some plans about being the High King and going to Gondor or something like that, but instead went up to the Bay of Forochel. Which did not end well for Arvedui.

Precisely that. :) Though I was careful not to say 'instead' - while the two were causally connected, I didn't think it would be fair to imply that he made a choice between the two.

Over to you, G55.

hS

[Galadriel55]

I bring a message of despair, but myself get a message of hope. I ask for the commander but find his superior. Who am I?

[Urwen]

Aragorn?

[Huinesoron]

I feel like this happens in Rohan; isn't there someone who shows up looking for Eomer but gets to talk to Theoden instead?

Ceorl, apparently, is his name, a messenger from Erkenbrand. "Where is Éomer? Tell him there is no hope ahead. He should return to Edoras before the wolves of Isengard come there."

hS

[Galadriel55]

I feel like this happens in Rohan; isn't there someone who shows up looking for Eomer but gets to talk to Theoden instead?

Ceorl, apparently, is his name, a messenger from Erkenbrand. "Where is Éomer? Tell him there is no hope ahead. He should return to Edoras before the wolves of Isengard come there."

hS

That's the guy! Back to you.

[Huinesoron]

I reached what we had come for, but turned back and forbade any others from following.

hS

[Urwen]

Finarfin?

[Huinesoron]

Finarfin?

No.

Also... what? o.O

hS

[Urwen]

Finarfin turned back after Alqualonde.

[Huinesoron]

Finarfin turned back after Alqualonde.

I reached what we had come for, but turned back and forbade any others from following.

hS

[Urwen]

Frodo?

[Huinesoron]

Frodo?

No.

'Forbade any others from following' is supposed to mean 'forbade anyone from going to what we had come for', rather than 'from following me as I turned back'.

hS

[Urwen]

No one I can think of right now did such a thing, specifically.

[Urwen]

Aragorn, maybe?

[Huinesoron]

Aragorn, maybe?

Nope.

Out of curiousity, when?

'What we had come for' is a place.

hS

[Urwen]

Well, a hint, maybe?

[Huinesoron]

Okay: the prohibition lasted 90 years before being (presumably) rescinded by the one who made it.

This turned out to be a pretty bad idea.

hS

[Urwen]

Makes me think of Ar-Pharazon's capture of Sauron.

[Urwen]

If this isn't it, then it still doesn't ring a bell.

[Urwen]

One more hint, please?

[Huinesoron]

When forbidding anyone from going in, he was a king's cousin.

When he allowed someone to do so, he was himself a king.

hS

[Urwen]

Sounds like one of Gondorian or Numenorean Kings.....but I can't find any who fit all the hints.....

[Urwen]

I think I found him. Dain Ironfoot. He dissuaded his cousin from going into Moria on his own.

[Huinesoron]

I think I found him. Dain Ironfoot. He dissuaded his cousin from going into Moria on his own.

That's the chap. More specifically, he said that no dwarf should enter Moria, because he alone had seen what waited within - Durin's Bane.

90 years later, he let Balin lead an expedition there. Dude had a very bad grasp of the lifespan of Balrogs.

Over to you.

hS

[Urwen]

By the way, you also have the honor of making a new riddle.

[Urwen]

My actions lead to the death of exactly twelve people.


(This is one of my tricky ones, where the clue isn't what it seems at first glance)

[Pervinca Took]

That's the chap. More specifically, he said that no dwarf should enter Moria, because he alone had seen what waited within - Durin's Bane.

90 years later, he let Balin lead an expedition there. Dude had a very bad grasp of the lifespan of Balrogs.

Over to you.

hS

Why was Gandalf so surprised to find one there? Catastrophic hole in his knowledge!

[Huinesoron]

My actions lead to the death of exactly twelve people.


(This is one of my tricky ones, where the clue isn't what it seems at first glance)

How large was Turin's outlaw band? Anyone know?

Wait, or is this circling back to Beren and Barahir again?

Why was Gandalf so surprised to find one there? Catastrophic hole in his knowledge!

Now there's an interesting question. My best answer is that everyone thinks of Balrogs as creatures of fire first; notably, Gandalf and Legolas only recognise Durin's Bane when it steps through the fire and catches alight. If Dain saw it in Shadow form, then he could have shared everything with Gandalf and still not tipped him off. (Evil shadow creatures are probably a tharni a dozen in Middle-earth.)

hS

[Urwen]

One of your thoughts is the right one.

And please make a new riddle.

[Huinesoron]

Okay, so Barahir had twelve companions, and Barahir + eleven of them died. Beren was the sole survivor.

But whose actions led to their deaths? Hmm...

-Gorlim the Unhappy was the actual betrayer. His secret hunting for Eilinel led to his capture, and his yielding to Sauron's temptation led to his death and that of Barahir's band. So he gets the actions part.

-Sauron planned and organised their deaths, but also plenty more, so 'exactly' rules him out.

-Eilinel is blameless. Sauron seems to have used an illusion, not her actual spirit, to tempt Gorlim.

-Barahir could arguably be blamed, given that his actions in keeping the gang in Dorthonion led to their deaths... but that also, ultimately, led to Beren's death.

So I think the answer has to be Gorlim, son of Angrim, husband of Eilinel, called the Unhappy.

hS

[Urwen]

It is right, but I had someone else in mind. Let's say that those twelve deaths include the speaker's own.

You're cĺose with Gorlim, though.