LOTR Survivor

[The Perky Ent]

++Alatar


Because I'm an ent, and support my entish brethren. The humans don't deserve magic tricks! All they do it burn and kill and die. Cut off their magic, and you'll cut off the humans!

[Alcarillo]

++Alatar

He's another Blue Men escapee!

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

What is an island without magic tricks ?

eehm. . . It is an island without magic tricks, but anyway save Alatar!

Vote: ++Grishnakh

[WaynetheGoblin]

++alatar I dont like the wizards.

[The Saucepan Man]

I don't think that the announcer (or whatever you call him) is supposed to make bias remarks, Saucepan.Aw! I though that I was rather retrained. It was hard to find anything good to say about him ... :p

I shall save my vote in case it is needed later in the day.

[Glirdan]

I to will vote Alatar. That way, there are no other wizards to use magic. Not to mention he keeps wandering off to and it doesn't help any.

++Alatar

[mormegil]

Are you kidding. Why get ride of Alatar? Without him we deprive our audience of the magic that makes him so interesting. His wandering that you speak of make for interesting adventures. No this anti-istari platform needs to end.

All who want Alatar to stay a bit longer should vote for Treebeard. We are up against an alliance with large numbers and need all the support we can get.

++Treebeard

[the guy who be short]

++Alatar - Same arguments as Pallando. Useless, blue, doesn't do anything, wanders off lots, failed in his task.

[Firefoot]

++Treebeard

Let's even up the numbers some, eh? 4-6-4, let's give the other teams a chance.

[Boromir88]

++Treebeard

Not only does he harp and try to kill anyone who gathers wood for fire on cold nights, but he was threatening to smash Grishnakh! Also, I agree with Firefoot, this is the strongest tribe, and let's even it up.

Alatar- 5
Treebeard- 3
Grishnakh- 1

[the guy who be short]

It doesn't count if you reshuffle the tribes in your favour. :p

[Boromir88]

It doesn't count if you reshuffle the tribes in your favour. :p

Ahhh, you caught on to me. :p

But, if you're interested, you can know my mind for a brief second and a thinking as to why I reshuffled them the way I did.

I was looking to make interesting combinations to provide for some interesting friendships. For instance, the one I was sold on doing from the beginning was combining Elves and Dwarves, because after all, they are such great friends. Plus you got creepy Gimli in there moving in on Galadriel as soon as Celeborn left.

So, it basically came down to the others and whether to split it 5-5 or 4-6. 5-5 either being Men, Wizard, Orc, and Hobbits, Ents...Or Men, Ents, and Hobbits, Wizard, Orc.

Or making it 4-6...Men, Wizard and Hobbits, Ents, Orc...And I decided that this way would make the combinations more appealing.

So, that's a look into the mind of Boromir88, fascinating isn't it? I bet I just creeped out a lot of people. :D

[Lalaith]

++Grishnakh

He fights, he cheats, he smells.

[Celuien]

++TREEBEARD

I want to save Alatar. An island without magic tricks is boring.

So I think the vote now stands at:

Alatar - 5
Treebeard - 4
Grishnakh - 2

Come on Grishnakh voters and switch to Treebeard!

[Anguirel]

++TREEBEARD needs recycling.

Boro, you are so cruel to separate the golden lurrrrvahs Eomer and Galadriel...

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

--Grishnakh ++Treebeard

[arcticstorm]

Burn the ENT!!!!!!!

++Treebeard

[the guy who be short]

Stay this madness!

Treebeard is part of the Super Happy Friends Club of Tolkien Characters. Without him, generations of children will be deprived of joy and happiness and turn to delinquency.

Do you want to be responsible for a generation of delinquents during your retirement years? Well then. Vote Alatar.

[Kath]

++ALATAR

I believe I put my reasons for not voting for Treebeard a long time ago, so there!

[Boromir88]

Well as I said on another forum I must be off. I'm going to close about 10 minutes early.

This leaves it as

Treebeard- 7
Alatar- 6

Treebeard has been voted off and as Anguirel said a long long time ago it would take forever for the Tree just to get off the island so the tribes agree to chop him up and use him as firewood.

Dwarves/Elves: (AKA- The "G"-eeebees)
Galadriel
Glorfindel
Gimli
Gloin

Orc/Ents/Hobbits:
Grishnakh
Quickbeam
Lobelia
Merry
Pippin

Men/Wizard:
Eomer
Eowyn
Hama
Alatar

[the guy who be short]

F...firewood? :( That's it, you fools, you've ruined our retirements.

++Alatar. I need his blood. It's a ritualistic kinda thing...

[Lalaith]

I'll vote for either Hama, Gloin or Grishnakh today.

Any other takers?
(you know properly speaking Boro you should've stuck Grish in with the elves...he was one once, after all...or his great-grandaddy was....)

[Alcarillo]

++Alatar

It's time to get rid of this lazy slob once and for all.

[The Perky Ent]

++Alatar

[Glirdan]

++Alatar

His wandering is really annoying.

[WaynetheGoblin]

++altar poor treebeard. :(

[Formendacil]

So Faramir be gone...

Good!

I regret my absence, and inability to participate against Treebeard in the past votes, but I will respect my promise, and vote with Firefoot as she needs it.

A promise is a promise.

[The Saucepan Man]

Gah! I missed the voting yesterday! Still, I would probably have voted for Treebeard, so it made little difference.

The tribes may have been re-shuffled, but there are still three from the original "Man" tribe.

Hama's cool with me. Eowyn is one of the two remaining females. So it's gotta be:

++Eomer

He's being far too over-protective of Eowyn. He won't let her do any of the physical tasks and, more importantly, he's stifling any chance of a love interest now that Faramir has (thankfully) gone.

And he's another goody-two-shoes. :D

[mormegil]

++LOBELIA

The old hag has got to go.

[Gil-Galad]

++Alatar then men...

[Firefoot]

++Alatar

Just to get him out of here. As others have said, he just sort of wanders off and doesn't do much, which gets wearing.

[arcticstorm]

We need to unite to save Alatar
++Eomer

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Then you need to vote:

++Lobelia

[Formendacil]

++Alatar

Just to get him out of here. As others have said, he just sort of wanders off and doesn't do much, which gets wearing.

I would myself have let the old booger go, and voted Eomer off myself, but a promise is a promise.

++Alatar

Sorry, old fellow, but you DO sort of deserve it. Disappearing into the east of the island, and leaving all the work in the wizard tribe to old Gandalf? Not cricket! Can't have you doing the same to your new tribe-mates.

[Lalaith]

Vote off Eomer? The only decent-looking bloke left? Don't be daft, you'll lose the female audience.
As for Lobelia she is a woman of resourcefulness and spirit and the ageist rabble who conspired against Cirdan shall not be allowed to claim her too.
I would have liked to see Alatar stay longer, his skills are of use to the tribe, but it's looking like I'm going to have to vote for him. I'll hold off a little while though.

[Anguirel]

I'm voting for Quickbeam, for the others' safety. He's a hasty fellow and Treebeard's fate has not gone down well with him...he's made all the palm trees into Huorns...

++QUICKBEAM

[Thinlómien]

:p

++Alatar

[Celuien]

++QUICKBEAM

Hasty, angry Ents are dangerous. Not only are the palm trees now Huorns, but he's tearing up the campsite tents and threatening to squish all of the other contestants as well.

[Boromir88]

I have no more need for Alatar being around. Plus I hear he's trying to put the moves on Eowyn, during the long...cold...rainy nights of the Island.

++Alatar

Votes:

Alatar- 10
Quickbeam- 2
Eomer- 2
Lobelia- 2

[WaynetheGoblin]

I have gotten my revenge. I am so happy :D . Never mess with the goblin.

[Boromir88]

I hope there's no objections to this, I must go early again today. These Manager meetings I tell you. Atleast this ones a blow out.

Alatar, is off, and he mysteriously disappears into the east with his buddy Pallando.

Contestants...

Dwarves/Elves: (AKA- The "G"-eeebees)
Galadriel
Glorfindel
Gimli
Gloin

Orc/Ents/Hobbits:
Grishnakh
Quickbeam
Lobelia
Merry
Pippin

Men/Wizard:
Eomer
Eowyn
Hama

[Glirdan]

Now to get rid of some others. Let's get rid of Grishnahk. The ugly, smelly theiving orc.

++Grishnahk

[wilwarin538]

More random randomness

++Eomer

I'm just a tad hyper right now. :D Some know why. ;)

[mormegil]

Okay now orc/ents/hobbits are the largest and of those the hobbits. I say either Lobelia or the annoying Pippin. Any takers?

[Glirdan]

I'll help with the Lobelia part if you need me to. Or we can get rid of that annoying orc Grishnahk. What say you?

[mormegil]

Sounds fine to me

++Lobelia

[Glirdan]

Ok.

--Grishnahk ++Lobelia

[wilwarin538]

Whatever makes you happy. :rolleyes:

--Eomer ++Lobelia

[Kath]

++Lobelia

Mad old Hobbit with a lethal umbrella!

[Lalaith]

Noooo....don't do it.
C'mon mormegil, rethink.
+Pippin
The tribe need Lobelia, they'll starve without her, she's the only one who can cook. Pippin's unquenchable cheerfulness is getting very grating, however.

[Firefoot]

Come on, there're only three women left. Instead, make it

++QUICKBEAM

Trying to trick us, making him think he's not so slow. But he is, and he doesn't get a whole lot more done than Treebeard ever did when it comes down to it. And he and Grishnakh are always getting into fights, which only hurts the tribe.

[The Perky Ent]

Time to get out my trusty bandwaggon! What's this?!? It's broken! What am I going to do?

++Quickbeam

Because he isn't as fast as I am!

[Alcarillo]

++Lobelia

And she can't cook.

[mormegil]

Come on, there're only three women left. Instead, make it


I worry that this will be said until the end. No we must get rid of her. She isn't anywhere near the woman that Eowyn and Galadriel are. :smokin:

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

++Lobelia

She is an old woman, with hairy feet !

[Formendacil]

Gonna stick with this till I vote for a winning party (Firefoot, consider your votes as counting for two for a while...)

++ Quickbeam

[WaynetheGoblin]

++LOBILIA she dosent stand a chanch.

[The Saucepan Man]

++ Eomer

[arcticstorm]

++Quickbeam

[Boromir88]

Firefoot makes sense to me...

++Quickbeam

[The Perky Ent]

Wow. When I voted for Quickbeam, it was before firefoot posted his for quickbeam. Coincidence? I think not. I guess great minds do think alike ;)

[The Saucepan Man]

Any of those who want to see the back of Quickbeam prepared to join me in my quest to rid the island of the chauvenistic and overbearing Eomer? If so, I will be glad to put my (revised) vote at your disposal to-Day ...

[arcticstorm]

Sauce, I will join you in getting rid of Eomer tomorrow

[Formendacil]

If Quickbeam goes, you can have me as an ally.

Again.

On this game, anyway...

[mormegil]

I'm fine with getting rid of Eomer but Quickbeam is not as big a deal to me. So for now I will stick to Lobelia but when it's time for Eomer I will be on you side.

[Anguirel]

I will do my best to defend Eomer. Though admittedly my record hasn't been great. Leave "Ride to ruin and the world's ending!" alone. I say we vote for Grishnakh, Gloin or Lobelia after

++QUICKBEAM

bites it. Testimony from:

Lobelia-"Hypocrite smashed my umbrella to pieces. It was probably his distant cousin."

Gimli-"Yeargh! I've a mind to lay my axe to the right tree."

Eomer-"We Riders tell fell tales of the peril in the palm trees..."

[Boromir88]

Any of those who want to see the back of Quickbeam prepared to join me in my quest to rid the island of the chauvenistic and overbearing Eomer? If so, I will be glad to put my (revised) vote at your disposal to-Day ...~SpM
Let's broker a deal. We get rid of Quickbeam today, and I will join this Crusade against Eomer. Plus I'll give you 50 bucks.

Though seriously, I'm getting tired of having Eomer on the island. He thinks just because when Theoden left and left him as King of Rohan, and with Aragorn gone now he can just run everything and be an imperialistic boss.

Votes:

Lobelia- 7
Quickbeam- 6
Eomer- 1
Pippin- 1

Down with the Ent, I can't believe his name is an oxymoron, who does he think he is?

[The Saucepan Man]

Sauce, I will join you in getting rid of Eomer tomorrow

If Quickbeam goes, you can have me as an ally.

Let's broker a deal. We get rid of Quickbeam today, and I will join this Crusade against Eomer.OK s'deal.

-- EOMER
++ QUICKBEAM

[the guy who be short]

I too will vote

++Quickbeam

and will also help you get rid of Eomer tomorrow. Just don't expect me to vote for Lobelia - the last Islander with a little life in her, despite her age and hair.

[Anguirel]

Bullies. Attacking people is so much easier than defending them. There are so many far more worthless individuals than Eomer, like Gloin...

I need a rival candidate for tomorrow, and Lobelia is looking like a tempting option...or Pippin, Grishnakh or Gloin...where shall we pro-Eomerists rally?

[the guy who be short]

If you so wish, I will abandon Eomer for Grishnakh - he is the last vestige of pure evil left on the Island, after all.

[Anguirel]

We have a deal. Riders of Rohan! Oaths you have taken! Tomorrow we slay Orcs.

Well, evict Orc.

[Folwren]

Anguirel, I say go for Grishnakh tomorrow.

Today, however...perhaps we might avoid Eomer's extintion a bit longer if we keep Quickbeam in the game and make them deal with him first.

++Lobelia.

I wonder why she hasn't gone yet anyway.

-- Folwren

[Anguirel]

I see your logic but I charged impetuously against Quickbeam early on and probably won't back out.

However, other Eomer supportors who wouldn't have to compromise their honour are encouraged to vote for Mrs Sackville-Baggins...

[Nonnacedak]

++Lobelia

Yes please and thank you.

[Anguirel]

History has been made. Honour has been invoked during discussion of (virtual) Reality TV...

[Boromir88]

Grishnakh! Grishnakh! He's the most intellegent player left. How do you send off an intelleget character that without him his tribe would be dead, because they're an oxymoron Ent and Hobbits that only like to eat food.

[Lalaith]

Can't we put forward a compromise candidate, ie Pippin, tomorrow?

PS. I will lose respect for a lot of people if Lobelia is evicted tonight.

[The 1,000 Reader]

++Lobelia.

[Folwren]

You people are so backwards and astonishingly warped it's revolting! Grishnakh? The most intelligent player left? Loss of respect if Lobelia is gotten rid of? What is up with this liking of either wicked people, or just plain greedy/pointless people?

Come on, folks. You've got to be better than all that.

-- Folwren

[Boromir88]

You people are so backwards and astonishingly warped it's revolting!
That's what makes it fun? What kind of thread would this be if we all went and got rid of the bad guys and said gushed over the goodie-tooshoers.

Grishnakh? The most intelligent player left?
All I know is if I had someone I would NOT want to play in a game of chess, it would be Grishnakh. The orc's a genius.

[Anguirel]

I'd still say that you're overrating his intelligence. Relative to what we see of Orcs, it's high, but he was outwitted by Pippin, after all, the fool of a Took himself...and wouldn't last a second with Galadriel...

[mormegil]

I'd still say that you're overrating his intelligence. Relative to what we see of Orcs, it's high, but he was outwitted by Pippin, after all, the fool of a Took himself...and wouldn't last a second with Galadriel...

That's only because of his upbringing. Now given the proper set of circumstances and education in his youth, I feel that Grishnakh would have been counted among the wise. But that's the most tragic part of the orc hierarchy, they denied education to all but the most elite upper echilon. It's simply heartbreaking to think of what he could have become had he not been oppressed.

[Anguirel]

But that's the most tragic part of the orc hierarchy, they denied education to all but the most elite upper echilon.

Grishnakh is the most elite upper echelon, a messenger from Lugburz who knows about the Ring, obviously of importance. But he's still tricked by a pygmy with a British public school accent and a nice smile...

[Formendacil]

My vote is already cast, but clearly it can be shown that Grishnakh, if not quite the best of the lot here, is certainly a good deal more intelligent, and even more noble, than many of his fellows on the island.

Note that Grishnakh was searching for the Ring, TO TAKE TO HIS MASTER. Grishnakh is only guilty here of service as selfless as that of Samwise Gamgee, the father of all goody-goodies. Really, it's no wonder you heartless misers voted Sam off the island.

Furthermore, take note of the fact that Grishnakh is smart. He is wise enough not to take on Ugluk, wise enough to side his orks with his, in spite of personal conflict, when mutual danger threatens. He is certainly a lot better informed, and has a much better idea what is carried by a halfling.

Furthermore, Grishnakh is clearly highly trusted by Barad-dur if he is being entrusted with such dangerous missions as retrieving the Ring. His loyalty and intelligence are clearly implicated.

And if loyalty and intelligence are what gets people voted off the island, then why on earth is Grima gone?

[Anguirel]

He is certainly a lot better informed, and has a much better idea what is carried by a halfling.

Does he? His grand ideas ultimately lead to certain hairy footed ones running rings around him...

He has access to information, but is too much of a dolt to recognise that his victims are exploiting his knowledge. No, I'd say even Ugluk has superior brainpower to this chap...

[Boromir88]

Votings closed, expect Lobelia's departure.

[Boromir88]

Alas, the end of anyone with atleast their partial name being Baggins is rid from the island. I guess Glorfindel got tired of getting hit with her broom. I think she liked him.

Dwarves/Elves:
Galadriel
Glorfindel
Gimli
Gloin

Orc/Ents/Hobbits:
Grishnakh
Quickbeam
Merry
Pippin

Men/Wizard:
Eomer
Eowyn
Hama

[WaynetheGoblin]

First to vote ++grisnak he is doing nothin around camp he is useless.

[Glirdan]

back to Grishnahk. It's time to get rid of hime. The stupid, ugly, kniving, theiving orc!!!

+grishnahk

[Boromir88]

Imagine what a bore the island would be without Grishnakh? He is the lone guy in this entire thing, he is the outcast, the underdog, no one wants him to win. Look at all this drama he creates.

We can lose Eomer, Glorfindel, Gloin, and Quickbeam without causing as much drama as Grishnakh himself causes.

[The Saucepan Man]

Listen to Boromir88. He speaks wisely. I don't know how many times I have to remind everyone, but this is meant to be a TV entertainment show, not a lovey-dovey goody-goody love-in!!!

I hope that you Grishnakh voters never go into TV light entertainment production ... :p ;)

So. Who do we go for today? Quickbean or Eomer?

[Glirdan]

How can you say that? Glorfindel has more drama!! He got hit over the head by Arwen, thrown in a bush and had his horse stollen!!! How can you not call that drama!?!?

The other I'm fine with. I just really want to get rid of Grishnahk because of his smell. And the other things I've said.

[Formendacil]

How can you say that? Glorfindel has more drama!! He got hit over the head by Arwen, thrown in a bush and had his horse stollen!!! How can you not call that drama!?!?

The other I'm fine with. I just really want to get rid of Grishnahk because of his smell. And the other things I've said.

Arwen has left the island. Since her absence, Glorfindel hasn't had a single moment of TV drama. Carrying Elrond's banner??? That's not drama...

[mormegil]

++EOMER

The Orc stays! We need some drama. The orc provides that. His temper is something the audience loves to hate.

[The Saucepan Man]

*Rallies to mormegil's banner*

You have my sword - er - vote.

So, Eomer today, Quickbeam tomorrow - right?

++ EOMER

[Gil-Galad]

you have my unidivided attention till the ladies come...which is like 15 seconds

++Eomer

[wilwarin538]

BANDWAGGONING!!!!!!

++Eomer

:D :D :D

[WaynetheGoblin]

--grishnak ++eomer.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

++grishnak

If you were to vote for Eowyn, but Eomer. NO !

[arcticstorm]

++Eomer

[Celuien]

As long as Quickbeam goes tomorrow...

++EOMER

[mormegil]

As long as Quickbeam goes tomorrow...

++EOMER

Not many complaints from me on that.

[The Saucepan Man]

As long as Quickbeam goes tomorrow...http://forum.barrowdowns.com/ubb/icons/icon14.gif

[Firefoot]

Ah, Eomer, my Rider... nice knowing you.

++Eomer

But Quickbeam's going tomorrow.

[Glirdan]

Well, it looks like the King of Rohan is out. Fare thee well my friend. And isn't it ironic that Eomer was lynched in WW XI?

[Alcarillo]

*sigh*

It's utterly useless, but oh well.

++Grishnakh

[Formendacil]

Ah, Eomer, my Rider... nice knowing you.

++Eomer

But Quickbeam's going tomorrow.

Yes ma'am.

++Eomer

Enough with this usurper! Theoden had three sisters, all older than Theodwyn. Surely ONE of them had a child, or was at least still alive at the time of the Pelennor! If so, then by the rights of primogeniture Eomer was a usurper. The bum! I wouldn't be surprised if he had a hand in Theodred's death.

[The Perky Ent]

Read the title!

++Galadriel

She hoggs the water, and I feel like voting randomly!

[Anguirel]

Quickly! We must form a shield wall! It's not too late.

Come on, people; can you really do without Eomer and Gimli's dueling?

++GRISHNAKH

[Lalaith]

Oh for heaven's sake. You say you want good tv, and then you get rid of the one guy left who looks good stripped to the waist chopping firewood? :rolleyes:
Plus he has a lovely temper on him, that Eomer, so you can't say he doesn't provide drama.

++GRISHNAKH

[Boromir88]

Despite Quickbeam not going yesterday, I'll stick to my pledge...

++Eomer

Eomer- 10
Grishnakh- 5
Galadriel- 1

[WaynetheGoblin]

--eomer ++grishnak I dont think eomor shold go people come on get rid of grishnak.

[The Saucepan Man]

Oh for heaven's sake. You say you want good tv, and then you get rid of the one guy left who looks good stripped to the waist chopping firewood?Hmm, can't say that makes great TV for me. But then, I guess it depends on your perspective ... ;)

Besides. You still have Gimli. He's good with an axe. :D

[Anguirel]

Eomer- 10
Grishnakh- 5
Galadriel- 1

Update-

Eomer-9
Grishnakh-6
Galadriel-1

With many of the Eomer party still to act, there's everything to play for. If you ever marvelled at a piece of alliterative poetry; if you ever shuddered with excitement hearing of a Berserker's deeds...if you ever admired Beowulf or Gawain; if you ever thrilled to the roll of an invincible roan horse's back-

Then vote for this so called "Orcish genius", a malodorous, querulous, inept gorilla who was fooled by a third-class Smeagol imitation.

Forth Eorlingas!

[Koneko]

O.O Very persuasive. (He did look rather arthurian, didn't he?) ++Grishnakh

[gralin musicteeth]

++Merry

I don't like Merry.

[Folwren]

This trully is horrible. A Horse Lord in danger if being dismissed? Eomer is almost as cool as Aragorn and Faramir! Both of those are gone, I notice!

++Grishnakh

You know, it's bad enough that you kicked Sam off practically at the very beginning. You said you wanted to see how Frodo did without Sam, and then as soon as the faithful servant was gone, you turn on his master. The bone I've still to pick with you who did that is not yet bare. This orc...this Grishnakh...is not worth keeping. I am glad that he is the one you latch on to. He's an easy target for me, because I feel no pity nor liking for him.

Watch yourself, and wait...just wait...

--Folwren

[Anguirel]

Death, death, death! A red sunrise!

Eomer-9
Grishnakh-8
Galadriel-1
Merry-1

[The Saucepan Man]

You know, it's bad enough that you kicked Sam off practically at the very beginning. You said you wanted to see how Frodo did without Sam, and then as soon as the faithful servant was gone, you turn on his master.Boy, you really bear a grudge, Folwren, don't you? :D

Come on people. Be radical. Think out of the box. Challenge the establishment. Behave unpredictably.

And what could be more radical, anti-establishment and unpredictable on a Tolkien forum than to favour an Orc over the King of Rohan. :smokin:

Where's all that teenage rebellion gone? :(

[mormegil]

Where's all that teenage rebellion gone? :(

Seemingly only those who are not teenagers have it :p

I've changed my signature in hopes of recruiting some to help our Orc.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

What could be more radical. . .

Well if you look at the Barrow-Downs, I would say that it would be more radical if we were to vote for Eowyn ! ! !

[Kath]

++GRISHNAKH

Eomer causes some nice tension, it'd be fun to keep him in a while longer.

[Folwren]

Originally posted by SpM:
Boy, you really bear a grudge, Folwren, don't you?

Only when it's necessary, actually. I'll be quite willing to forgive you all when either your cause or mine is quite without hope.

Where's all that teenage rebellion gone? :(

. . .

Teenage rebellion?

Saucepan, I'm shocked. It's hard enough living properly in this day and age. We don't need your help in getting us to rebel. And it's NOT the lack of teenage rebellion that get's us to strive for Eomer's safety and Grishnakh's ruin. It's the preference of a smart, awesome guy, with the coolest horses, over some smelly, crude, insulting orc.

--Folwren

[Anguirel]

Eomer-9
Grishnakh-9
Galadriel-1
Merry-1

[The Saucepan Man]

It's the preference of a smart, awesome guy, with the coolest horses, over some smelly, crude, insulting orc.Tsk! Teenagers today. :rolleyes:

Things have clearly changed since my day ... :(

To put it into contemporary terms, Eomer is like the cool, popular athletic guy at school. You know, the one who looks down on the pale, long-haired geeky types (like Wormtongue) and ridicules their love of heavy rock (or goth) music, fantasy literature and role-playing games. I don't know about you lot, but I hated those types when I was at school.

Geeks of the forum unite! Vote out the jock (US not UK terminology).

:D

[Anguirel]

I wonder, have people started giving thought to the end-game yet? Boro has confirmed that, when we get to the final three, we will be voting for a winner. The sensible course will be to work towards eliminating any serious competition for your preferred winner (ie the popular ones).

Whether Saucie invokes Orc liberation fronts or teenage Goth misunderstandings, behold his real purpose.

He's merely trying to weed out popular contestants who rival his own candidate (probably someone annoying like Pippin or Gimli...) This is why he's after Eomer.

Vote for Eomer and you play into the hands of a sinister, puppeteering lawyer!

[The Saucepan Man]

He's merely trying to weed out popular contestants who rival his own candidate ...Aren't we all? :p

Vote for Eomer and you play into the hands of a sinister, puppeteering lawyer!I am merely doing my duty. After all, it is a key principle of all fair legal systems that everyone, no matter how reviled, has the right to a proper defence. ;)

[Nonnacedak]

++Eomer

Goodbye and Farewell!

[The Perky Ent]

--Galadriel++Grishnakh

[Anguirel]

Eomer-10
Grishnakh-10
Merry-1

Too close for words...we need all the old men and boys who can bear arms to slay this Orc...

[mormegil]

To put it into contemporary terms, Eomer is like the cool, popular athletic guy at school. You know, the one who looks down on the pale, long-haired geeky types (like Wormtongue) and ridicules their love of heavy rock (or goth) music, fantasy literature and role-playing games. I don't know about you lot, but I hated those types when I was at school.

Geeks of the forum unite! Vote out the jock (US not UK terminology).

:D

Saucepan said it best. The call has been sent out. Remember your heritage folks. Eomer is the Quarterback that dated the cheerleader that would rather spit at you then so much as look at you. It's time we strike back.

I am sensing definite xenophobia afoot here. You should all be ashamed for wanting to rid the Island of the lone orc.

[Anguirel]

Says he who instigated the ethnic cleansing of Elvendom! Hypocrisy, hypocrisy...

You're aplying superficial, sterile, anachronistic, generalistic and transatlantic values to a Dark Age Old English world. For heaven's sake, Eomer doesn't know what a quarterback is! Neither, indeed, do I!

[The 1,000 Reader]

We need one evil thing to stay for now, so++Eomer.

[Anguirel]

Oft the unlooked for guest proves the most welcome. If any of you who are not usually Survivor participants read this and feel some pity for the young King on the brink of destruction, lend your swords against Grishnakh.

If ever you have gasped at "he was young, and he was king, the lord of a fell folk"...

Then vote with your hearts and aid Rohan.

If you know what it feels to thunder upon a horse...

Vote with your legs for Rohan.

If words like "north, sword, helm, frost, vale" excite you...

Vote with your heads for Rohan.

Down with the crooked Orc dupe!

[the guy who be short]

++Grishnakh. So there.

[Anguirel]

tgwbs's stout aid brings it to-

Eomer-11
Grishnakh-11
Merry-1

Friends of the Rohirrim would still be eagerly accepted. We wish to save our King as well as trample our foe...

[WaynetheGoblin]

It is a tie 11 grishnak 11 eomor .vote for grishnak.

[Anguirel]

"Thrash on, you thrustful fellow, you threaten too much
It seems your spirit is struck with self-dread."

That I say to the Eomer evictors.

For Gawai...I mean, Eomer Eadig...

[mormegil]

I refuse to bandwagon!

Read the title!

++Galadriel

She hoggs the water, and I feel like voting randomly!


Oath-breaker!


--Galadriel++Grishnakh

How can you say you don't bandwagon? :p

Switch your vote back or face my further tauntings :D ;)

[Kath]

No! Don't do it Perky! Don't let him bully you into it!

[wilwarin538]

--Eomer++Grishnakh

[The Perky Ent]

Well I'm tricksy, aren't I? And to all those who voted for Eomer:

I place a curse on you! You shall never rest until you fufil your oath to Grishnakh! Go now, and dwell under the mountain!

[Boromir88]

Say bye-bye to the sole trouble-maker on the island...Grishnakh. Now there's nothing left to left to go for except gushy muck, and "he's so great." No more conflict, no more drama, this show would cease to exist on National TV, but the show must go on...

Dwarves/Elves
Galadriel
Glorfindel
Gimli
Gloin

Hobbits/Ent
Quickbeam
Merry
Pippin

Men/rohan lady
Eomer
Eowyn
Hama

[Formendacil]

Say bye-bye to the sole trouble-maker on the island...Grishnakh. Now there's nothing left to left to go for except gushy muck, and "he's so great." No more conflict, no more drama, this show would cease to exist on National TV, but the show must go on...

In order that Survivor: LotR continue to survive, I hereby dub Eomer, Galadriel, and Quickbeam our new bona fide Servants of Evil.

All of you voting against evil creatures may now vote against Eomer the Uruk, Galadriel the Balrog, and Quickbeam the Troll.

[Lalaith]

You're aplying superficial, sterile, anachronistic, generalistic and transatlantic values to a Dark Age Old English world

*hits Anguirel on the back in a probably unwelcome fashion*

Damn right!

[mormegil]

I vote for

++EOMER THE URUK


You're aplying superficial, sterile, anachronistic, generalistic and transatlantic values to a Dark Age Old English world

And the problem being....?

[Glirdan]

Fine, time to get rid of Quickbeam.

++Quickbeam

Let's get rid of him for Perky's sake.

[Gil-Galad]

aye for Perky

++Quickbeam the Troll

[Firefoot]

++Quickbeam the troll

Because... dare I say it? ... I rather like Eomer...

But if that's who it's necessary to vote off today, I'll switch. But Quickbeam and Eomer... the two really just can't compare.

[wilwarin538]

For Perky!!!!

++Quickbeam

[Lalaith]

++QUICKBEAM

(although I am an election whore today, I'll switch to anyone, within reason, while Eomer is in danger...)

And the problem being....?
Mormegil, see me after school for a quick precis of how Saucepanman, having watched 80s flicks like Pretty in Pink, The Breakfast Club and Some Kind of Wonderful and so on, as a boy, is twisting this inside info on bizarre American high school tribalism with his cunning lawyer tricks to play on inferiority complexes across the Atlantic.


Don't let SpM win with his misleading "down with the kids" propaganda....Eomer is not Emilio Estevez, the jock a-hole, he is Judd Nelson, he is whatever the current righteous teen misunderstood idol is, lets not forget his senile fool of an uncle banished him, unfairly....

[The Perky Ent]

RALLY TO ME!!!! TO ME!!!!


++Quickbeam!

[The 1,000 Reader]

I have no idea what that was, so I'm voting for Eomer.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

++Quickbeam

never liked him that much and i am a bit affraide what could happen if you vote against the perky order !

[The Saucepan Man]

Conformists! Grishnakh, the rebel without a horse, shall be avenged!

... i am a bit affraide what could happen if you vote against the perky order !You get to show that you're a free thinking spirit, rather than bending to mob rule.

You're aplying superficial, sterile, anachronistic, generalistic and transatlantic values to a Dark Age Old English worldOK. Eomer is the arrogant and scheming Knight with the wavy blonde hair who tries to steal the beautiful maiden away from the wronged green-skinned misfit. ;)

Mormegil, see me after school for a quick precis of how Saucepanman, having watched 80s flicks like Pretty in Pink, The Breakfast Club and Some Kind of Wonderful and so on, as a boy, is twisting this inside info on bizarre American high school tribalism with his cunning lawyer tricks to play on inferiority complexes across the Atlantic.Actually, it seems the pretty boy horse king has cornered the market in lawyers. Seemingly the second rate ones who couldn't even defend a noble and worthy character like Faramir. :p

Don't let SpM win with his misleading "down with the kids" propaganda...Hey chick, the kids are alright. Get with the beat, dude. Er - groovy, man.

RALLY TO ME!!!! TO ME!!!!What for? To help you vote off the last of your race? Really, what is the world coming to?

++EOMER

By the way, Boro, apparently the announcer's not supposed to be biased. :rolleyes:

[mormegil]

Mormegil, see me after school for a quick precis of how Saucepanman, having watched 80s flicks like Pretty in Pink, The Breakfast Club and Some Kind of Wonderful and so on, as a boy, is twisting this inside info on bizarre American high school tribalism with his cunning lawyer tricks to play on inferiority complexes across the Atlantic.


No, he's not playing on an inferiority complex because I have none. However there is a real climate in the High School over here like that. I did all I could to annoy those who found themselves superior to me.

DOWN WITH EOMER!

[Folwren]

Originally posted by Mormegil:
Oath-breaker!...

Switch your vote back or face my further tauntings. :D ;)

Oath breaker? Coming from you, Morm, that's rather weak, considering you break from the group at the most dire part in the entire game.

Originally posted by SpM:
By the way, Boro, apparently the announcer's not supposed to be biased. :rolleyes:

Ah, keep quiet.

I don't understand half of the insults being thrown back and forth concerning Eomer. It probably doesn't help that I never went to school, nor watched any of these alleged "flicks".

My opinion of Eomer is of a big brother under a lot of stress, but who holds up so well that it takes a threat to himself and his sister before he loses his temper. He uses his head, you know? And that's needed around here.

-- Folwren

[The 1,000 Reader]

See, you fools, without any true villains on the island you all have lost the necessary motivation to continue! Even our biased announcer has no real idea who to vote for! Perky has betrayed his fellow Ent! You have doomed yourselves. May the grace of the Valar save you.

[Boromir88]

By the way, Boro, apparently the announcer's not supposed to be biased. :rolleyes:
In case you already didn't know, Grishnakh was basically the guy I was pulling for to win the whole thing, so it's hard not to be biased in that situation. :p I guess I'll have to choose a new guy.

I'll go back with...

++Quickbeam

But mark my words...Eomer will die...:cough:...pay.

[The Saucepan Man]

In case you already didn't know, Grishnakh was basically the guy I was pulling for to win the whole thing, so it's hard not to be biased in that situation.Wow, that was quite a long shot. You must have got good odds.

Hmm, perhaps I should withdraw from the voting and run a book on the remaining contestants. Here's my thoughts:

Dwarves/Elves
Galadriel: 2-1 joint favourite
Glorfindel: 2-1 joint favourite
Gimli: 20-1
Gloin: 50 - 1

Hobbits/Ent
Quickbeam: 200 - 1
Merry: 16 - 1
Pippin: 24 - 1

Men/rohan lady
Eomer: 8 - 1
Eowyn: 3-1
Hama: 25 - 1

That seems the most likely to me with the kind of mentality we have round here at the moment. ;)

[The Only Real Estel]

++ Quickbeam

If you're going to brag about being the fastest thing in Middle Earth you should at least be able to back it up by beating Saruman to Orthanc. :rolleyes:

[Alcarillo]

++Quickbeam

I've seen molasses oozing uphill in January run quicker than him!

[Formendacil]

++Quickbeam the troll

Because... dare I say it? ... I rather like Eomer...

But if that's who it's necessary to vote off today, I'll switch. But Quickbeam and Eomer... the two really just can't compare.

Well, I'll stick to my word, but you'd better keep yours and help us be rid of that nasty bugger...

++Quickbeam

He Who Would Be Hasty

[Anguirel]

I can see Quickbeam will wall anyway, so I'm going to vote for a character I actually dislike unless Eomer is seriously threatened...

++GLOIN

I really can't believe this geriatric snob is still here.

To all you fools who say the departure of Grishnakh ends conflict...nonsense. Conflict between supposedly "good" characters is more morally ambiguous and fun.

Examples:

Will Gimli overcome the urge to take an axe to Quickbeam?

Will Eomer or Gimli win Galadriel's heart? Who will prevail in their duels?

Will Glorfindel do an Aegnor and carry off Eowyn? How will Eomer and Hama react?

Will Quickbeam continue to ravage the island with palm tree huorns to revenge Treebeard?

Will Merry and Pippin form a sworn hobbit assassin's guild and slay Gloin for impugning their kinsman Bilbo's honour with slander about groceries?

And so on. Now say you'd think this was boring on TV.

[The Perky Ent]

At the very last people, are we going to do some kind of thing where all the people who were voted off come back? If we are, I think we should save Eomer, just so we can crush his hopes so close to the finish line when all the islanders vote agaisnt him!

[Koneko]

++Quickbeam ... bandwagoning... yay!

[Lalaith]

No, he's not playing on an inferiority complex because I have none. However there is a real climate in the High School over here like that. I did all I could to annoy those who found themselves superior to me.

Fair 'nuff, Morm.
But my point is that Eomer is being miscast and traduced by SpM. Think on it. You get to show that you're a free thinking spirit says SpM.
So why not back Eomer, then?
He had rebelled against my commands, and threatened death to Grima in my hall.
Eomer is absolutely not the have-it-all corn-fed musclehead jock.
He's a firebrand, a rebel with a righteous cause, the ultimate misunderstood angry young man.

[Boromir88]

There's been no problem with this, I'm quite pleased with how this has turned out, and I'm enjoying doing it. But, with us winding down here to the final days, I have a concern that things may get more heated, we all have a pretty good idea on who we want to win...do we not? So, as a Reminder, let's keep our posts on reasons and arguments why someone should stay or leave, don't make anything personal. I wanted to address this before any problems that may rise, especially since we're getting down to the nitty-gritty.

At the very last people, are we going to do some kind of thing where all the people who were voted off come back?~Perky
Ahh, I was going to get to that too.

Here's how I planned the last day to go...and I'm laying it now so there's time to make changes if anyone thinks we need them, and to sort of give you an idea how the last day will go so it's not total chaos.

I think the last day with three people left should sort of be the grand finale, the cream-of-the-crop, the best quality from the thread. So, I'm altering rules around a bit, which all go towards making the last day of voting the best.

1) You vote for the person you WANT to win.

2) Votes will be irretractable. By this time you should know who you want to win. If you decide to take back your vote, NEITHER of your votes will count.

3) I will not vote unless we have a tie. This I think benefits in a few ways. First, take my word for it (I'm asking you to trust Boromir of all people :rolleyes: ) that if there is a tie, and I have to decide it will be unbiased.

In the event of a tie, is the only time that I CAN vote. The way I'll judge is creativity and it's got to be atleast related to LOTR in some way of the arguments you give for your person and against the others (I'll give some examples). So, my decision will be based on how convincing you make your arguments for why the person you voted for should win, and why the other two should lose.

This also, I think makes sure I just don't get a bunch of votes in here, and that we get the true thread quality at the end. This way, JUST in case if there is a tie, the decision will be up to me, on how well you have argued for your person.

For kind of what I'm looking for in the arguments at the end, here's the way to do it, and the way not to do it. As I said, I'll be looking for creativity and whether it's related to LOTR in any way.

For example, I'll use Gil, I fail to see how stealing his pies is LOTR related. Though it may be creative, unless he can convince me what stealing his pies has anything to do with LOTR, I'll have to say that this would not be a good argument.

For a good example...funny I'll use Gil again. When voting for Elrond he said..."Yeah, I'm dead because of him, that jerk." I found this extremely funny, and it does relate to LOTR...Gil-galad...dead because of Elrond.

Also, I found Formendacil's Eomer the Uruk, Galadriel the Balrog, Quickbeam the troll, quite hilarious as they're basically polar opposites. Though Formendacil, I'll say I think Glorfindel would be a better balrog candidate then Galadriel.

Anyway, that's in case if there will be a tie. Everyone agree...disagree...thoughts, Input?

[Thinlómien]

Sounds reasonable to me.

[the guy who be short]

++Eomer - The last attractive male on the show. How has he managed to stay so long? :p

[Anguirel]

Eru, it's a new specimen entirely! The Fickle Dwarf!

[the guy who be short]

I owe no allegiance to Eomer. :p Do not accost me with yours stereotypes of Dwarflihood!

[Nonnacedak]

++Eomer

Now is the time to jump on the Eomer bandwagon!!

[Anguirel]

"Only a millionaire or a romantic would support Eomer."-Something George Orwell Might Have Said But Didn't That Supports Both Camps In Different Ways

Is no one going to strike out for the workers and join me in giving the gold-digging, leeching, penniless, hanging-on, obsolete, anachronistic disparaging aristocrat that is Gloin a healthy kick?

[The Saucepan Man]

Is no one going to strike out for the workers and join me in giving the gold-digging, leeching, penniless, hanging-on, obsolete, anachronistic disparaging aristocrat that is Gloin a healthy kick?So tell me. How exactly do you square that with supporting an unelected monarch? :p

[Anguirel]

Eomer is most certainly elected; if in a similar way to the Reges Teutonicorum or the Kings of Scotland, or Hungary, or Sweden (or, for that matter, the President of the United States); i. e., the electors will tend to continue to support one dynasty barring really serious disaster. It is repeatedly asserted that the Rohirrim "put their trust in the House of Eorl", and that is why Eowyn is required to rule over them in her uncle's absence.

In addition, as a proto-Anglo-Saxon society it is almost certain that Eomer required the confirmation of some kind of Witanegamot body of elders in order to rule legally.

[Boromir88]

Votings close, I'll tally em up.

[Boromir88]

Quickbeam- 12
Eomer- 4
Gloin- 1

Quickbeam must leave the island. Despite his name, he still doesn't leave fast enough and misses the boat off, so the remaining tribe are forced to use him as firewood, just like Treebeard. I guess it's getting pretty low in abundance.

Dwarves/Elves
Galadriel
Glorfindel
Gimli
Gloin

Hobbits
Merry
Pippin

Men/rohan ladyEomer
Eowyn
Hama

[Glirdan]

Well. I say we eliminate the Elf/Dwarf tribe a little, starting with Gloin(he's to old for this now) Or get rid of Hama who is ultimately useless. I mean, who gets eaten by a warg? Honestly!!! I'll wait a little, not to bandwagon or anything, but to make my mind up for whom I'll be voting for.

[mormegil]

Boromir, was removing Eomer an executive decision? I agree with it if it is otherwise I will continue to vote for him today.

[Glirdan]

If you look closely morm, Eomer's name is right beside the Men/rohan lady part. As for my vote, it shall be

++Hama

I just don't like him. That and he got eaten by a warg.

[mormegil]

Thank you Glirdan, in that case

++EOMER

[The 1,000 Reader]

++Eomer.

[WaynetheGoblin]

++hama band wagoning time for wayne.

[Celuien]

++EOMER THE URUK

No Uruk should be King of Rohan. Down with him!

[Firefoot]

++Eomer

But only because I said I would.

I say tomorrow we get rid of one of the Dwarves... they've remained unvoted out this whole time.

[Folwren]

Mormegil, why? Why do you go so head strongly against Eomer? Why did you help Faramir leave the island? Did I or anyone else do anything wrong? How can you do this? Does your conscience not smart? You are coupling yourself with those who removed Sam! Worse than that, you got rid of Faramir - a man whom Sam greatly respected, and one who we wanted to stick around for a while.

It's all very, very sad.

:(

-- Folwren

[Formendacil]

++Eomer

But only because I said I would.

Thank ye verra much, m'lady! T'is good te see ye ke'p yer promiz.

And I want the big lout gone as well... Clearly, he's an enslaver of horses: that horsetail plume on his helmet, for example...

What's more, he seems totally preoccupied with the idea of death. Look at his actions on the Pelennor. They are nothing but killing and looking to be killed. Is this the sort of man you want staying on the island?

[Anguirel]

This from someone who defended an Orc high in the councils of Sauron...???

I second the removal of the Hama. Time he falls before the gate. Besides, I know he'd be willing to sacrifice himself for his lord...

++HAMA

[Koneko]

++Hama

[The Saucepan Man]

Eomer is most certainly elected ...Yes, elected by his predecessor as he lay dying on the Fields of Pelennor. And that's the basis for a good, working democracy, is it? :rolleyes:

He was, in any event, clearly not fit to lead his country, having abandoned it when it had great need of him. With his King lapsing into senile dementia, he takes off with his men on a hunting trip.

On said trip, he ends up hunting orcs, undoubtedly a rare species in Rohan at that time. (Note also that he was a willing accomplice to that other undemocratically appointed monarch, Aragorn, in later hunting said species to virtual, if not complete, extinction.) He also continues to neglect his duties while out hunting by allowing three mysterious strangers (one of whom was the aforementioned Aragorn) to roam at will through Rohan, despite their failure to produce any proper ID.

Later, at the Battle of Pelennor fields, he abandons his King to a potentially terrible fate at the hands of the Witch-King (no doubt, with a greedy eye to the throne). Happily, two of the remaining contestants were able to save King Theoden from such fate, although sadly not from death. Lo and behold, Eomer "mysteriously" appears after the danger has passed and coerces the dying King into handing the throne over to him.

Note also Eomer's chauvenistic and overbearing nature. Despite knowing that his sister's greatest wish was to bear arms and fight for her country, he remained resolutely against her doing any such thing. He has continued to restrict her to domestic duties while on the Island.

He is also a bully, as his behaviour towards the poor, unfairly maligned Wormtongue shows. He used his physical superiority to make the poor man's life a living hell. Remember how he continually taunted and ridiculed Grima while he was still on the Island? A classic example of a "popular" guy bullying the poor, misunderstood misfit. The comparison to a High School Jock, while it may be anachronistic, is far from inappropriate.

I fail to see how anyone can support such a man.

++EOMER

[Anguirel]

Yes, elected by his predecessor as he lay dying on the Fields of Pelennor. And that's the basis for a good, working democracy, is it? :rolleyes:

You ask the Rohirrim. They wanted the House of Eorl, and they got it. Which is more than can be said, for instance, than for the majority of Americans who apparently voted for Al Gore...

He was, in any event, clearly not fit to lead his country, having abandoned it when it had great need of him. With his King lapsing into senile dementia, he takes off with his men on a hunting trip.

If we're following the book, this hunting trip you speak of was a desperate defence of the realm at the Fords of Isen, against an invasion mounted by...

orcs, undoubtedly a rare species in Rohan at that time.

An army of tens of thousands and goodness knows how many Orcs labouring to supply said force isn't all that rare...


(Note also that he was a willing accomplice to that other undemocratically appointed monarch, Aragorn, in later hunting said species to virtual, if not complete, extinction.) He also continues to neglect his duties while out hunting by allowing three mysterious strangers (one of whom was the aforementioned Aragorn) to roam at will through Rohan, despite their failure to produce any proper ID.

Ask the singing folk of Minas Tirith if they were not contented by Aragorn's election. As for the matter of Eomer not demanding ID cards, this establishes his credentials as a free-thinking individualistic libertarian opposed to the Big Brother over-paternalist state, not the tyrant you have portrayed him as.

Later, at the Battle of Pelennor fields, he abandons his King to a potentially terrible fate at the hands of the Witch-King (no doubt, with a greedy eye to the throne). Happily, two of the remaining contestants were able to save King Theoden from such fate, although sadly not from death. Lo and behold, Eomer "mysteriously" appears after the danger has passed and coerces the dying King into handing the throne over to him.

Gross libel. If Eomer had wanted to murder his uncle, he had had plenty of opportunity in the Edoras days. Note that Eomer was simply protecting his uncle by a charge against thousands of that cuddly endangered species of yours...Theoden's bequest is a standard "verba novissima", made of free will and without provocation to a lawful heir.

Note also Eomer's chauvenistic and overbearing nature. Despite knowing that his sister's greatest wish was to bear arms and fight for her country, he remained resolutely against her doing any such thing.

Because she would have been killed, and he loved her! Had it not been for your "undemocratically elected" Aragorn, he would have been proved right by Eowyn's tragic and needless death, pursuing a phantom love.

He has continued to restrict her to domestic duties while on the Island.

Hardly. As her husband, Faramir has been her "protector", and treated her with kindness and equality until he was sent off by your slander...

He is also a bully, as his behaviour towards the poor, unfairly maligned Wormtongue shows. He used his physical superiority to make the poor man's life a living hell.

Wormtongue was scarcely very emancipatory and feminist in his treatment of Eowyn. We also have a clear documentation of a past in which Wormtongue contrived Eomer's wrongful jailing, framing him for a crime similar to your own charges. You speak with Grima's slithering tongue!

Remember how he continually taunted and ridiculed Grima while he was still on the Island? A classic example of a "popular" guy bullying the poor, misunderstood misfit. The comparison to a High School Jock, while it may be anachronistic, is far from inappropriate.

Who imprisoned who? Who abused who's sister? That's what we have to ask.

I fail to see how anyone can support such a man.


Hardly surprising, as you've glossed over his courage, his loyalty in the face of severe provocation to his uncle, his free-spiritedness, initiative, and mastery of poetry.

Do not let this sinister heir of Wormtongue, this Orc-fondling lying word-twisting charlatan, usurp your minds, my friends, and vote for Hama, who has expressed a wish to depart rather than suffer the fall of his esteemed captain and friend.

[Lalaith]

Indeed, let us all consider the sage counsel of Gandalf the White:

To put your trust in Eomer, rather than in a man of crooked mind.

++HAMA

A noble man ready to make a noble sacrifice. I bid him farewell and salute him.

[Boromir88]

If you look closely morm, Eomer's name is right beside the Men/rohan lady part. As for my vote, it shall be~Glirdan
Yeah, it's there morm, usually I copy and paste, but I guess I didn't on this one and forgot to hit space. :p

Anyway, I'll probably vote for Hama today, afterall he really does nothing, and of all things he listens to Gandalf, that's gotta be the worst.

[the guy who be short]

++Eomer. Why is he still here? :confused:

[The Saucepan Man]

You ask the Rohirrim. They wanted the House of Eorl, and they got it ...And that's been independently verified has it? At least Bush's right to govern was upheld in a court of law. Can the same be said of Eomer? I think not.

If we're following the book ...You mean that piece of blatant propaganda peddled by Frodo and Sam, both of whom have long since been discredited and voted from the Island.

... this hunting trip you speak of was a desperate defence of the realm at the Fords of Isen, against an invasion mounted by... An army of tens of thousands and goodness knows how many Orcs ...Can you blame them after being hunted all the time by the Strawheads? At least the Dunlendings saw where the justice lie, although they were cruelly repressed by Eomer's despotic regime for their part in the uprising.

Ask the singing folk of Minas Tirith if they were not contented by Aragorn's election.So now the government gets selected by the minstrels, does it? Perhaps we should ask the likes of Robbie Williams, Madonna and Britney Spears to choose our rulers then. :p

As for the matter of Eomer not demanding ID cards, this establishes his credentials as a free-thinking individualistic libertarian opposed to the Big Brother over-paternalist state, not the tyrant you have portrayed him as.Ah, but there's a world of difference between asking for some form of ID and imposing a requirement to carry ID cards. In any event, once he was in charge, Eomer's attitudes changed somewhat. Just ask the poor Dunlendings.

Theoden's bequest is a standard "verba novissima", made of free will and without provocation to a lawful heir.You were there, were you? Unfortunately, you are once again relying on the discredited Red Book of Westmarch. Never trust little (or big, for that matter) red books ...

Because she would have been killed, and he loved her!So that gave him the right to chain her to the metaphoric kitchen sink, did it? I can see that you share Eomer's Stone Age attitudes. ;)

Hardly. As her husband, Faramir has been her "protector", and treated her with kindness and equality until he was sent off by your slander...Funny that. She looks to me to have been having a whale of a time since the Sneaky Steward departed.

We also have a clear documentation of a past in which Wormtongue contrived Eomer's wrongful jailing, framing him for a crime similar to your own charges.Admittedly, Wormtongue went off the rails. But it was under extreme provocation from Eomer and his bully-boys. A more enlightened approach would be to look at the underlying cause of his misdemeanours, rather than the misdemeanours themselves.

Indeed, let us all consider the sage counsel of Gandalf the WhiteAnother discredited early evictee from the Island.

Hardly surprising, as you've glossed over his courage, his loyalty in the face of severe provocation to his uncle, his free-spiritedness, initiative, and mastery of poetry.Ah, the discredited "Red" book again. Filtering out the propaganda reveals him to be the craven, disloyal, tyrannical, close-minded and illiterate bully that he really was.

You see. It's all about thinking outside the box.

Orc-fondling :eek:

Much as I sympathise with the poor, misunderstood blighters, I most certainly do not indulge in cross-species petting. You shall shortly be hearing from my lawyers.

Anyway, I'll probably vote for Hama today, afterall he really does nothing, and of all things he listens to Gandalf, that's gotta be the worst.Ah, but at least he had the guts to stand up to Aragorn. Unlike the craven Eomer, who let him roam at will throughout Rohan to cause untold mischief. I urge you to think again, Boro. This could be our last chance to rid the Island of the Forgoil pretty-boy.

[Anguirel]

Saucie castigates us Eomerites for following the Red Book. Makes me wonder about what sources he's going on...perhaps

The Black Book of Sauron, or, the troubles of a misunderstood jeweller

The Brown Book of Ugluk, or, My Time in the Uruk Liberation Front

The Multi-Coloured Book of Saruman, or, I am Your Rightful Lord and Master, Because I have the Coolest Robe, go on, admit it

and most of all

The Indeterminately Unpleasantly Coloured Book of Grima, or, how I had arrow surgery, sold up, and surfaced as a renowned Barrowdowner.

This fellow is inveterate in his use of generalisation, balderdash, and misapplication. How could anything with more intelligence than Bert the Troll be swayed by such twisted rhetoric?

[The Saucepan Man]

History is inevitably written by the victors, and one has to bear in mind that is is therefore intrinsically biased. :p

[Anguirel]

All sources are biased, Saucie. An objective point of view is impossible.

But if you make up a case from scratch and carefully selected, dubious evidence, from threads and patches, from politicised conjecture tailored to suit your cause, and parade and trumpet it as the truth...

That's called distortion!

[Alcarillo]

++Hama

Anguirel has convinced me.

[The Saucepan Man]

But if you make up a case from scratch and carefully selected, dubious evidence, from threads and patches, from politicised conjecture tailored to suit your cause, and parade and trumpet it as the truth...

That's called distortion!No. It's just another way of looking at things. And how much more fun it is than simply accepting the spoon-fed "traditional" view. :D

How interesting would this thread be if everyone just toed the line, unanimously voted off all the baddies and mutually enthused about how wonderful people like Sam, Aragorn, Faramir and Eomer were ...? :eek: ;)

[The Saucepan Man]

Anguirel has convinced me.Yeah, right. Like you haven't voted with the pro-Eomer lobby for the past five days or so ... :rolleyes: ;)

Tsk! I am dismayed by the conservatism of the vast majority of the Downs membership ... :(

[mormegil]

Tsk! I am dismayed by the conservatism of the vast majority of the Downs membership ... :(

If you want to get really freaky go for Galadriel removal.

[Anguirel]

To an extent I agree with you, Saucie. I joined the Sam and Frodo campaigns, for instance. However, I'm just warning potential victims of your verbal wrigglings about your unreliability. Were I, not you, in charge of setting the agenda of targets that you seem to have grasped, then I'd be interested to see how you'd swallow my libellings of a character you liked...a certain innocent young Took, perhaps...

[The Saucepan Man]

I joined the Sam and Frodo campaigns, for instance ... I'd be interested to see how you'd swallow my libellings of a character you liked...a certain innocent young Took, perhaps...Hmm, why does that not surprise me? :p I have a number of preferred candidates for winner out of those remaining but since none are of the conventional kind, I hold out little hope.

In the meantime, I shall continue to have fun railing against the establishment. :D

(Btw, if I really had any influence in setting the agenda, the list of those remaining would look markedly different. :rolleyes: )

[Kath]

Do you know with all the excitement over Eomer and Faramir and Treebeard, I completely forgot about

++HAMA

I voted for him once already. Having seen some of these ridiculous arguments against Eomer I think I'll vote for anyone but! Who fancies starting on a Dwarf soon by the way? They seem to have escaped persecution so far.

[Anguirel]

I did my best, Kath, I did my best. I may well support an anti-Dwarf drive, though I'd prefer to expell a Hobbit or so...

[mormegil]

I did my best, Kath, I did my best. I may well support an anti-Dwarf drive, though I'd prefer to expell a Hobbit or so...

Don't make me recruit Kuruharan and incur his wrath :mad:

[Anguirel]

Ah yes, mormegil. I was waiting for you to float up.

How do you square this approach

Boromir, was removing Eomer an executive decision? I agree with it if it is

with your anti-Eomer faction's stance of brave democrats fighting an unelected monarch?

Looks like, like most revolutionaries, this lot don't care about autocracy as long as it goes their way.

Friends, Downers, Rohirrim, vote to promote the noble self-sacrifice of Hama in the face of these scheming hypocrites! Death, death, death!

[mormegil]

Ah you see we are no faction. There is no cohesive bond keeping all of us together. Our agendas cross at times and we make open agreements, we don't plot behind closed doors afraid of those who have 'strange and progressive ideas'. Our agenda has been made open to all and we have no secrets...can you say the same? :smokin:

[Anguirel]

I think I'd rather say that you've just ducked an inconvenient question, and that if your lot is innocent of PMing concord then I'm a swanship of Alqualonde...

Conclusive evidence of plotting and insidious action (which we're admittedly guilty of too, but at least we don't deny it...)-

Don't make me recruit Kuruharan and incur his wrath

How was that to be done? Osanwe-Kenta? Seems a bit unlikely when communicating with a Dwarf...

[The Saucepan Man]

Conclusive evidence of plotting and insidious action (which we're admittedly guilty of too, but at least we don't deny it...You are? :eek: I was only making fun when I suggested it. I didn't realise that this sort of thing was actually going on ...

That explains a lot.

It would rather take the fun out of the game for me. I prefer the rough and tumble of open argument, overt persuasion and transparent deals. I can assure you that I have never PM'd anyone with plots or plans about who to vote for and, personally, that's the way that I like it.

Mind you, I suppose that I should expect no more from those who support the likes of Faramir and Eomer. :rolleyes: :p

[mormegil]

How was that to be done? Osanwe-Kenta? Seems a bit unlikely when communicating with a Dwarf...

A summons can be given and yet no faction formed. However no summons has been issued other than the simple invitation given on this thread.

[Boromir88]

So far votes go...

Hama- 7
Eomer- 6

[Kath]

I did my best, Kath, I did my best. I may well support an anti-Dwarf drive, though I'd prefer to expell a Hobbit or so...
No not a Hobbit Anguirel, or at least not yet. With the way Boro's done the groups we really need to get rid of a Dwarf or an Elf, but the Elves have already lost a good portion of their race so I think it's time for a Dwarf to go. It would be nice if we could get it so that there was one member of each race left for the final, but since it goes to a top three I guess that can't happen.

[Folwren]

Actually, for all your guys's information, there hasn't been too much PMing about these later votes.

And mormegil...I don't know if I'll ever trust you with behind the scenes secrets again. It was bad enough your leaving us.

-- Folwren

[Nonnacedak]

++Eomer

Lets get rid of the Jock once and for all! I cant believe all you nerds have stood for this this long! Jocks have no place amongst us. Vote him off already.

[Formendacil]

Who imprisoned who? Who abused who's sister? That's what we have to ask.

What's this!!!

Someone on the island has been abusing his sister???

There's only one brother and sister on the island: Eomer and Eowyn!

Enough of this scandal! Off with him!

[The Saucepan Man]

Actually, for all your guys's information, there hasn't been too much PMing about these later votes.I regard any such activity as inappropriate.

There are those who like to play poker for the challenge of pitting their wits against others in the context of a level playing field. And there are those who like to play poker because they can win by stacking the cards in their favour. The problem, when they play together, is that the activities of the latter thoroughly eradicate the enjoyment of the former because there is no challenge when the playing field is uneven.

I therefore call on those who, like me, would not stoop to such depths to down tools and refuse to vote further until:

1. either all contestants who have been voted off as a result of such activity are reinstated or those who have never participated in such activity are given the opportunity to remove three contestants of their choosing; and

2. all further covert activity is banned.

In the meantime, the "get along gang" can get on with voting whoever they want off the Island with no resistance whatsoever and see how much fun that is.

:p

[mormegil]

Folwren, I am sorry if I have hurt you it was not my intent but as I explained our paths were beginning to diverge and I have not given away any secrets. I remember who you hold dear and will avoid that person or there are two people if I remember correctly. I left because I needed to venture out on my own. I was a little caterpillar who just transformed into a butterfly and I needed to fly on my own ;) Folwren it's nothing personal...remember this is M-e Mirth :D

[mormegil]

I regard any such activity as inappropriate.

There are those who like to play poker for the challenge of pitting their wits against others in the context of a level playing field. And there are those who like to play poker because they can win by stacking the cards in their favour. The problem, when they play together, is that the activities of the latter thoroughly eradicate the enjoyment of the former because there is no challenge when the playing field is uneven.

I therefore call on those who, like me, would not stoop to such depths to down tools and refuse to vote further until:

1. either all contestants who have been voted off as a result of such activity are reinstated or those who have never participated in such activity are given the opportunity to remove three contestants of their choosing; and

2. all further covert activity is banned.

In the meantime, the "get along gang" can get on with voting whoever they want off the Island with no resistance whatsoever and see how much fun that is.

:p

SpM I would agrue that this is survivor though not poker, this is a place for alliance and dark and twisted plots where backstabbing and coersion exist.

[The Saucepan Man]

SpM I would agrue that this is survivor though not poker, this is a place for alliance and dark and twisted plots where backstabbing and coersion exist.Er - that's for the contestants, not the audience, isn't it? Nevertheless, I have no problem with bluffs, deals and even broken deals, provided that it is all above board so that each of us knows where he or she stands.

[Folwren]

Originally posted by Mormegil:
Folwren, I am sorry if I have hurt you it was not my intent but as I explained our paths were beginning to diverge and I have not given away any secrets. I remember who you hold dear and will avoid that person or there are two people if I remember correctly. I left because I needed to venture out on my own. I was a little caterpillar who just transformed into a butterfly and I needed to fly on my own Folwren it's nothing personal...remember this is M-e Mirth

Of course. And I'm sure you're very kind and mean nothing serious at all. I can accept that. But I'm awful sensitive at times. Your targetting Faramir and then Eomer and helping those who I hold as an enemy in this game is kind of hard for me to take.

Understand, though, that on most other threads and especially after this game is over, I'll bet most alliances and grudges will be entirely forgotten on my part. So don't worry about it. :)

As for you, SpM...!

I regard any such activity as inappropriate.

I had just finished telling you that there hadn't been any of late.

There are those who like to play poker for the challenge of pitting their wits against others in the context of a level playing field. And there are those who like to play poker because they can win by stacking the cards in their favour. The problem, when they play together, is that the activities of the latter thoroughly eradicate the enjoyment of the former because there is no challenge when the playing field is uneven.

I therefore call on those who, like me, would not stoop to such depths to down tools and refuse to vote further until:

1. either all contestants who have been voted off as a result of such activity are reinstated or those who have never participated in such activity are given the opportunity to remove three contestants of their choosing; and

2. all further covert activity is banned.

In the meantime, the "get along gang" can get on with voting whoever they want off the Island with no resistance whatsoever and see how much fun that is.

Pitting their wits, as you will so call, against others doesn't have to do with 'starting a bandwagon', but rather having an organized, well though of plan before hand. It may be a different approach than you may take, but I have to say that I prefer mine much more. We at least put our brains into it, where as you...you will rely soley on the mass voting. I will remind you that mobs are easily swayed for the worse (or sometimes for the better) and only the low and less noble will use them to gain their own ends.

And as for not voting until those two things happen - ha! Better quit voting, and stay that way, because I'm not stopping.

-- Folwren

[Anguirel]

Saucie, you must be joking. Your terms might as well be the Mouth of Sauron's...

Unless Boromir specifically declares against it (and he earlier said that actual bribed-via-PM votes were fine, in a post I shall find and quote) I shall PM whoever I like, whenever I like, on whatever subject.

There are some things great men do that they prefer to go unnoticed. Much politics is cloak-and-dagger. This is not really Werewolf, and we should feel free to consult and forge mutually beneficial alliances.

If you wish to make good your offer, I bid you farewell and am gladdened that henceforth your mob shall be one vote poorer. Also, Saucie, though I do not doubt you've had no part in it, it is quite obvious that some of your cohorts have been PMing potential allies.

EDIT: Here it is

Sorry Anguirel, it adds this survivor-like quality to the thread. Bribes, alliances, betrayals and back-stabbings...etc,. Now we even have our own parties forming, makes for an intriguing game. I'm just glad a computer and 1,000 of miles seperate both sides. Guess you'll have to start your own bribing to save Celeborn.

There. A direct hint from the host that if we wanted our candidates to survive, we'd have to scheme and coerce behind the schemes. And I stick by it.

[Formendacil]

Of course. And I'm sure you're very kind and mean nothing serious at all. I can accept that. But I'm awful sensitive at times. Your targetting Faramir and then Eomer and helping those who I hold as an enemy in this game is kind of hard for me to take.

Hehehehe...

Might help to remember that this IS "Middle-Earth Mirth", where crazy is the law, and the more wacky, far-out, and totally nonsensical you can be, while still maintaining some tangible links to Middle-Earth, is the best way to go.

For example, if I had been trying to get my favourite characters (in a serious not a mirthy way) to win, Gandalf, Bilbo, Aragorn, and Elrond, and yes, even Faramir, would have been fought FOR, rather than championing the unlikely Grishnakh.

For what it's worth, it's a great deal more fun to roam around this game taking potshots at the favourite of the day (which has been Eomer for the last few days) than trying to defend them. The thing about attacking is that you get to make hilarious, outrageous charges, taking everything out of context and shredding a perfectly legit reputation. (Or vice versa in the case of the Baddies. :p )

When defending, you get all the boring tasks, like stating why so and so was so nice- basically quoting the book, and leaving it at that.

And on that note....

Eomer is a name-caller. Look at his cavalier treatment of Aragorn when he enters Rohan! "Wingfoot I name you" he says. Wingfoot, as any discerning person can tell, is a most girly name, and quite unsuited to the future King of Gondor and Arnor, and should properly have been applied to Legolas (there! Eomer is also blind). What's more, it's clearly a veiled reference to the Greek god Hermes, and that's most insulting! How would YOU like to be compared with a naked guy in sandals? :eek:

[Anguirel]

For what it's worth, it's a great deal more fun to roam around this game taking potshots at the favourite of the day (which has been Eomer for the last few days) than trying to defend them. The thing about attacking is that you get to make hilarious, outrageous charges, taking everything out of context and shredding a perfectly legit reputation. (Or vice versa in the case of the Baddies. :p )

When defending, you get all the boring tasks, like stating why so and so was so nice- basically quoting the book, and leaving it at that.



Dirty job, but somebody has to do it. Besides, defence requires more skill and is more satisfying, as any of the gallant few who defended Celeborn for five days, taking down eight rivals, will testify...

[Glirdan]

as any of the gallant few who defended Celeborn for five days, taking down eight rivals, will testify...

You do realise that we, the Union of Celeborn haters, did not care that quite a few of those people got voted out?? They might have counted for you, but to us, the more that went, the easier it was to get rid of Celeborn because it gave us more time to recruit people to help us or to let people bandwagon with us.

[Boromir88]

++Eomer

I believe that makes it...

Eomer- 8
Hama- 7

Eomer's time was coming, everyone was getting fed up with his domineering and saying "I'm your King." But as Gimli would say..."Just because some rotted old man, on his deathbed threw a sword at you is no way to base your government. Supreme sovereignty lies with the people." And so ended Eomer's time on the Island.

Elves/Dwarves
Galadriel
Glorfindel
Gloin
Gimli

Hobbits
Merry
Pippin

Men/Rohan Lady
Eowyn
Hama

[Glirdan]

Curses!!! He's gone!!! I won't vote for Hama today, I will vote for

++Gloin

The dwarf is to old for this kind of thing.

[mormegil]

If we are to thin out dwarves I say we let the dwarf who humilated his race by letting 'Gorn toss him be out

++Gimli

Plus there are too many i's in his name.

[Firefoot]

++Gimli

I mean, what did he really do? He joined the Fellowship, then egged Gandalf into Moria where Gandalf was killed - I mean, he's a Dwarf, how much do you want to bet he didn't know there was a balrog there? Then he goes about making audacious not to mention selfish requests from Galadriel. He doesn't really do anything else except insult Eomer until they get to Helm's Deep where he kills forty-something Orcs - so what? Besides, why did he kill the Orcs? Did he ever considered that there might be hope of redemption? Noo. Then he basically does a whole lot of nothing (unless you're going by the movie - then, not only does he do nothing but is annoying doing it).

Really, he's just a useless character. Why on earth is he in the book anyway? And what's he still doing camping out on this island?

[Boromir88]

I think we should take down a dwarf, but ack! Which one! They both need to go.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

and vote Eowyn of the island...

Just look at the way she treated poor Grima! if she would have just been a little nicer too him, a lot of suffering could have been averted !

++Eowyn

[Glirdan]

I'm quite fine with Firefoot's reasoning for getting rid of Gimli but I'm not thrilled with yours morm. How could you base your reasoning on the movies? Gloin is to old for this and once again, it's LOTR Survivor, not The Hobbit Survivor.

[WaynetheGoblin]

++eowyn im bandwaging.

[wilwarin538]

Why not?

++Eowyn

[Lalaith]

Why not? Wilwarin, I'm shocked. I thought you were a girl? Where's your female solidarity, for heaven's sakes?

I agree we need to lose a dwarf but I would much rather we went for Gloin than Gimli. Gimli has done some really impressive ground-breaking work in the field of race relations, I think for that at least he deserves to get a bit further in the contest.
I also appreciate the younger dwarf's sense of family feeling - he would not desert the tomb of his dead relative even when his life depended on it. Gloin really hasn't been of much use since he arrived, his bones are too stiff and his belly too big.

[wilwarin538]

Why not? Wilwarin, I'm shocked. I thought you were a girl? Where's your female solidarity, for heaven's sakes?

Well it was my brother, he told me to. :rolleyes:

But he didn't say I couldn't take it back. hehe * evil grin* (we need to get one of those)

--Eowyn++Gloin

There's my female solidarity! :D

[The Saucepan Man]

Sorry Anguirel, it adds this survivor-like quality to the thread. Bribes, alliances, betrayals and back-stabbings...etc,. Now we even have our own parties forming, makes for an intriguing game. I'm just glad a computer and 1,000 of miles seperate both sides. Guess you'll have to start your own bribing to save Celeborn.Oh, OK then. Fair do's.

Saucie, you must be joking. ;)

Did Folwren vote in the last round? :confused:

I really can't be doing with all the backroom stuff myself, though. My own approach to the game is best expressed by Formendacil here. (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=420018&postcount=976)

And now I feel that it's time to strike at the heart of the Elvendom on earth.

++GALADRIEL

Says it all really. (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=358218&postcount=804)

(Shameless, I know. :rolleyes: )

[Kath]

Just a second Sauce, I thought you wanted the Elves to stay on the island? :confused:

[Formendacil]

Oooohhh!!!

I'm torn... who to vote for!! There are three very intriguing people to lambast, and I am torn as for which to rip into...

Galadriel has definitely got the most potential. She's got a history of scandal, she's a known henpecker, and I just don't like her that much...

Eowyn, on the other hand, has started to get a bandwaggon going. And while I liked Eowyn in the book, and didn't mind her in the movie, one can SO make a case out of her desertion...

And then there's Gimli. To have a go at the last remaining serious member of the Fellowship (and yes, that is a humourous dig at Merry and Pippin), is quite tempting. As is the fact that he's got the most rolling bandwaggon right now. I DO like to party, and I DO like to win...

Ah.... sweet temptations...

[The Saucepan Man]

Just a second Sauce, I thought you wanted the Elves to stay on the island?I did? I can't recall saying such a thing.

I wouldn't worry, though. It's not like Galadriel has any chance of being voted off. Just another hopeless cause for me to keep banging on about. And she has great potential for, er, creative use of the facts. :D

[Gil-Galad]

++Gloin

[The 1,000 Reader]

++Gloin.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Eowyn is closed, depressive, mean to weak and pail guys with bad hair-dues, defies her king and she is a fraud. . .

Vote her off now ! ! !

[Folwren]

No, I did not vote. I totally forgot about it after posting last. I regret not having done it. I regret not having found more recruits. But I totally forgot.

Now Eomer is gone.

What is left to continue for? If no one gives me a good reason to stay (now that he, Faramir, and Sam are gone I'll marvel if you can come up with any good reasons), then I may have to leave, too. Not that you would mind much. Perhaps I shall stay to defend Glorfindel...our last hope. Or Gimli...maybe...

-- Folwren

[Alcarillo]

mean to weak and pail guys with bad hair-dues
The only such person she was cruel to was Grima Wormtongue, and he deserved it.

++Gloin

The G-Group is just too large.

[Glirdan]

I just got in from finishing my paper route (stupid Northern Life!!! :mad: ) and as I was doing my paper route, I was thinking...what if we did a Silmarillion Survivor? I mean come on, we all had a few good laughs and lots of fun and one bacstabbing (coughmormcough :p). What would be the harm in doing a Silm Survivor? I didn't want to start it because I wanted to get your thoughts on this subject beforehand. And it would only contain those who had an important role in The Silm. Elrond and Celeborn wouldn't be in it because they didn't do a whole lot. Sauron was important and deseves another chance and Galadriel, well, we'll have to wait awhile for that.

While we're on that subject, I was also thinking that we could do a second Survivor with LOTR characters, but call it "LOTR and The Hobbit Survivor". That way, you could include Thranduil, Thorin & Co., Beor, Bard, Dain and others that were in The Hobbit and Boro could host it again, if he would like to of course. So, what say you?

Anyway, join the "Get rid of Gloin" campaign!!! A Dwarf has to go!!!!

[Formendacil]

I just got in from finishing my paper route (stupid Northern Life!!! :mad: ) and as I was doing my paper route, I was thinking...what if we did a Silmarillion Survivor? I mean come on, we all had a few good laughs and lots of fun and one bacstabbing (coughmormcough :p). What would be the harm in doing a Silm Survivor? I didn't want to start it because I wanted to get your thoughts on this subject beforehand. And it would only contain those who had an important role in The Silm. Elrond and Celeborn wouldn't be in it because they didn't do a whole lot. Sauron was important and deseves another chance and Galadriel, well, we'll have to wait awhile for that.

While we're on that subject, I was also thinking that we could do a second Survivor with LOTR characters, but call it "LOTR and The Hobbit Survivor". That way, you could include Thranduil, Thorin & Co., Beor, Bard, Dain and others that were in The Hobbit and Boro could host it again, if he would like to of course. So, what say you?

Anyway, join the "Get rid of Gloin" campaign!!! A Dwarf has to go!!!!

I'm pretty sure that Boromir is/was planning a followup game. Certainly, this has proven at least as addictive as Werewolf, and a lot zanier. I know that Survivor Silm was mentioned as a followup, and I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a Survivor Hobbit...

Meanwhile, I don't think I'll work against Eowyn today. Too... easy, almost.

So, Gimli or Galadriel... To set my sights on one of those... And hey! I just realised that now that Celeborn has been voted away, there's been some romantic intrigues between these two. Who do you think was instrumental in mergine the Elf and Dwarf tribes?

Naughty, naugthy!