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Formendacil
02-27-2006, 03:39 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to Arda Envinyanta- Arda Healed, where we all live in peace and happiness under Eru. In his benevolence, King Manwë has granted us permission to host a show for your amusement known as "Survivor". We are pleased to have enlisted some of the great and famous names of the Second Age to participate in our game. The contestants are:
Tribe of the Noldor:
Ereinion Gil-galad,
Elrond Peredhil
Galadriel
Celebrimbor
Glorfindel
Tribe of the Sindar:
Celeborn
Círdan
Orophir
Amdír
Celebrían
Tribe of the Númenoreans:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Tar-Aldarion
Erendis
Ar-Pharazôn
Tar-Míriel
Tribe of the Elendili:
Amandil
Elendil
Isildur
Anárion
Ohtar
Tribe of the Other Speakers:
Durin III
Narvi
Fangorn (Treebeard)
Fimbrethil
Thorondor
Tribe of the Baddies:
Sauron
The Witch-king
Khamûl
Herumor
Fuinur
Interviewing of the contestants prior to the game reveals extreme confidence from Annatar about winning:
"After three previous rounds, I think my chances of winning at next to none. After all, I've got the most experience. And I'm the prettiest."
Fellow three-tries-at-it-already contestant, Elrond Peradan, was less optimistic:
"I'm always voted out."
Although the contest contains several old fan-favourites, viewers were disheartened by the lack of a great dragon. Members of an fan group known only as "F.A.T.", however, claimed to be pleased with the new edition's selection.
"Lots of babes," said an anonymous member approvingly. "Galadriel, Celebrían, Erendis... even that tree girl, Fimbrethil. Much better than the last round."
But enough interviewing.
The game starts NOW. Each day, one (or possibly more, if I decide to allow double-lynches, which I probably will most days) person will be evicted from the game by the voting of YOU the readers. The days will be more or less regular in duration, but due to the irregularities that are a working bum's life, the exact duration of the day will not be herein specified, so as to allow me the chance to open/close the days as I please, and to allow for a greater air of uncertainty (no holding votes back to the deadline, guys).
Votes are retractable. They should appear like this:
++ Nilpaurion Felagund
(who is not a legitimate candidate).
Okay, I think you guys know how this works. You may begin.
Oh, and Nilp, your vote for Ar-Pharazôn is not pre-registered. ;)
WaynetheGoblin
02-27-2006, 07:16 PM
++sauron
Badguys shouldent win.
arcticstorm
02-27-2006, 07:30 PM
Honestly, what need do we have for elves who cannot stay dead?
++Glorfidel
Celuien
02-27-2006, 08:07 PM
++DURIN III
Rather unoriginal to be the third Durin, isn't it? Being the second is dull but excusable. Being a triple is unpardonable.
Glirdan
02-27-2006, 08:46 PM
++Glorfidel
So does this mean you support Arwen knocking him out and stealing his horse!? :eek: Shame on you!!
++Durin III
After that last season, I don't want to see another Dwarf ever again!
arcticstorm
02-27-2006, 09:18 PM
So does this mean you support Arwen knocking him out and stealing his horse!? :eek: Shame on you!!
nope, on the contrary. I support the nazgul bringing the ring to Sauron,
the phantom
02-27-2006, 10:53 PM
I say to make for a more interesting contest, we should leave the bigger names alone and then let them duke it out for supremacy.
Use the guidelines below for voting.
1) Don't vote off any of the Noldor. If you want to vote for an elf, select one from among the not-so-cool-and-important Sindar.
2) Leave Ar-Pharazon, Elendil, and Isildur alone. Those three will probably make for the best game out of the humans on the list. Kill off the other Numenorians/Gondorians before these three.
3) Leave the bad guys alone for a while. Baddies always make things more interesting. If you have to vote for a baddie, pick a minor one- not Sauron or the Witch King.
4) Get rid of those "other speakers". They don't add any excitement. The best known one is Fangorn (Treebeard), and his primary trait is being boring.
Heed my words and you will have more fun, I promise.
Kuruharan
02-27-2006, 11:00 PM
Announcer: Greetings sentients and welcome to the first day of the Second Age Survivor brought to you by Jack’s Rented Mules. Remember, when you need a rented mule, Jack’s got the…uhhh, something or other for you! I’m joined in the booth by my good friend and colleague Bob.
Color Commentator: Hello. (Gin and tonic please.)
Announcer: And down on the sidelines we have the lovely but agonizingly unattainable Amanda.
Sideline Reporter: Can it, creep!
Announcer: Isn’t she cute? Bob, what is your take on the action thus far?
Color Commentator: The bar doesn’t seem to be as well stocked here and the service is a bit slow. Oh, you meant in the game…well, it’s been a bit of a slow start. Sauron got an early vote followed by Glorfindel. Then the dwarfism that was so apparent in the last game reared its repetitive head combined with Glirdan sniveling pathetically about the number of dwarves in the last game (of course, he had absolutely nothing to do with the selection of the last field so he has every right to complain). Other than that, not much has happened. Well, the phantom has contributed a silly opinion that it is better to leave the big names for later. He is obviously not a connoisseur of the game or he would realize that it is much more fun to watch people get whipped up into a frenzy over irrelevant characters. It is my considered opinion we should get rid of the more famous characters first. This will generate fireworks from the beginning, stir up a lot of bad blood so that by the time the end comes around everyone will be attempting to gnaw each other’s legs off over a couple of characters who never spoke in the books. What great fun that will be!
Announcer: Splendid, just look at her thighs!
Color Commentator: What?
Sideline Reporter: POLICE!!!
Officer Walley: Sir, I’m afraid I’m going to have to take you down to the station.
Announcer: What for?
Officer Walley: For actions in flagrant violation of the Not on a Family Website Act of FA 600. Put down the chair and come along quietly and there won’t be any trouble.
Announcer: No! I have my behavioral privileges, same as other announcers. I’ll sue! You’ll be hearing from…
Officer Walley hits Announcer over the head with Mr. Billy Club
Officer Walley: I warned you.
Color Commentator: We’ll be right back after these brief commercial messages. (Where’s my gin and tonic?)
Gil-Galad
02-27-2006, 11:09 PM
++Anárion
cause he died in a dishonourable way
Nilpaurion Felagund
02-28-2006, 12:06 AM
++Ar-Pharazôn
He stole Tar-Míriel, gave her that [deleted] ugly name, and caused the world to go spherical, thus giving rise to timezones.
I curse your existence, Golden Boy!!!! :mad: (++Nilpaurion Felagund (who is not a legitimate candidate))
Oh, and victory for Tar-Míriel!
Post-traumatic possum. I'll get you yet, Daga of the North!
Anguirel
02-28-2006, 01:47 AM
++FUINUR
Doesn't even have the fame to get some anonymous sorceror in the Fourth Age named after him.
Not nearly as stylish as Herumor.
In a word...superfluous...
Lhunardawen
02-28-2006, 01:59 AM
++Ar-Pharazôn
to honor a sworn oath. And I'm sure only us who suffer perpetually from timezones understand the need to vote him off.
And no one touches my Ereinion!!!
Lalaith
02-28-2006, 06:12 AM
++Ar Pharazon
There is a risk that his superficial bad-boy glamour will turn the heads of the younger and more impressionable viewers. We could end up with another Smaug-style winner scenario which would frankly be very dull two series in a row. Get him off early.
Anguirel
02-28-2006, 06:49 AM
To save the Golden One (I doubt Lalaith will be surprised to hear I'm something of a fan)
--FUINUR, ++DURIN III, CALLED "TEDIUMHELM"
Tuor of Gondolin
02-28-2006, 07:00 AM
+ + Durin III
Would this mean all the other Durin's move up I in order? :)
And since there are others, it's really not a huge loss,
even to the dwarves.
And while there are some babes in this Survivor
(albeit some somewhat overly assertive) what
happened to that 50's style mom, Almarian.
Kuruharan
02-28-2006, 08:52 AM
Hmmm...opportunity to annoy Anguirel.
++ Ar-Pharazon
the phantom
02-28-2006, 09:44 AM
+ + Durin III
Because I want to save Ar Pharazon.
The guy had some serious guts and power. He and his navy scared Sauron's armies so bad they deserted him, and when Ar Phar went after the Valar they wet their pants and went crying to Eru to take care of it.
You gotta keep someone like that around for a bit.
Eomer of the Rohirrim
02-28-2006, 09:58 AM
What disrespectful comments, phantom. I will make it my goal to see that Treebeard wins this contest. :p
Tuor of Gondolin
02-28-2006, 10:02 AM
The guy had some serious guts and power. He and his navy scared Sauron's armies so bad they deserted him, and when Ar Phar went after the Valar they wet their pants and went crying to Eru to take care of it.
Yeah. If professsional wrestling had been around think of the
bad guy tag team of Ar-Pharazon and Sauron (until, of course,
the stunning moment when one turned on the other- perhaps
getting a better offer from Saruman).
Perhaps a steel cage match against Beren and Finrod Felagund.
Kuruharan
02-28-2006, 10:16 AM
Because I want to save Ar Pharazon.
Sorry phantom, Ar Pharazon is cooked. It is the kiss of death to have your name mentioned much. He may linger a little bit, but his bid for victory is already over.
The Saucepan Man
02-28-2006, 10:17 AM
Hmmm...opportunity to annoy Anguirel.And the phantom, too.
How deliciously irresistible.
It is time to revive the Alliance of Doom!
+ + AR-PHARAZON
... and on and on and on, each day until he is removed.
Kuruharan
02-28-2006, 11:24 AM
It is time to revive the Alliance of Doom!
Sounds like a good idea!
the phantom
02-28-2006, 01:04 PM
So, Kuru and SP, you want to immediately vote off someone who has done great and terrible things? And here I always thought you two were intelligent.
If we continue voting off the big names we will be left with naught but weak, little known characters, around which it is difficult to find real reasons to rally, and the game will become less of a battle of Middle Earth characters and more of a silly and ridiculous shouting match between Barrow-Downs members.
But if that is indeed what you want, go ahead and support the ugly beer-slopping Durin III over the great and powerful Ar Pharazon.
And Eomer, you seriously want Treebeard to win? Come now- the day an Ent wins a popularity contest is the day the world will end.
Lalaith
02-28-2006, 01:12 PM
If we continue voting off the big names
Who said anything about continue? A few of us want to see the back of A-P, for what seems to be an eclectic set of motives. That's all. Plenty of big names left after he's gone, the great golden fraud.
Kuruharan
02-28-2006, 01:16 PM
the game will become less of a battle of Middle Earth characters and more of a silly and ridiculous shouting match between Barrow-Downs members.
Exactly!!!
We don't call it the Alliance of DOOM for nothing.
The game is about vendettas, not characters.
Anguirel
02-28-2006, 01:20 PM
Sigh.
--DURIN III TEDIUMHELM
Allow me to gently suggest that, in a co-operative attempt to stop these power-tipsy demagogues, those who wish to foster actual literary debate unite against a third, anodyne candidate?
++FUINUR
You know it makes sense...
the phantom
02-28-2006, 01:21 PM
Sure, Lalaith, there are other big names after A-P is gone, but he is one of the biggest and the baddest. A-P was the most powerful ruler of the entire second age! This is "Survivor: The Second Age", isn't it? Then how can you get rid of the Second Age's biggest dictator this early? That's stupid.
The game is about vendettas, not characters.
How absurd. If this game isn't about the characters, then I hardly think it qualifies as being Middle Earth related, and therefore the thread should be deleted by The Barrow-Wight.
If you want to be foolish and make the game vendetta driven, just generate a list of random names like "Bob" and "John" and don't even bother pretending that the process is somehow Tolkien related.
Lalaith
02-28-2006, 01:29 PM
That's stupid
Nah. That's tactics.
the phantom
02-28-2006, 01:32 PM
That's stupid.
Nah. That's tactics.
That may be true, but it does not make what I have said untrue, for tactics other than my own are, without a doubt, stupid.
Anguirel
02-28-2006, 01:33 PM
Nothing tactical about a straightforward charge towards someone you don't like!
Ah, my system wasnae perfect, but the narrative stuff would have protected poor Goldie in the early days...
JennyHallu
02-28-2006, 01:47 PM
++Ar-Pharazon
For being tacky, and because bandwaggoning is fun!
Eonwe
02-28-2006, 01:57 PM
I can see I'm gonna have a tough time of it here in the Second Age. I could see half of the contestents winning...
HOWEVER, there are some, namely
++Durin III,
that are less endearing than others...
Anguirel
02-28-2006, 02:02 PM
My attempt to avoid a boring standoff with two options is clearly doomed to failure. But I shall retain my dissenting vote for the third candidate, and see if any have the wit to join it...
Eonwe
02-28-2006, 02:08 PM
Well, Ang, I find it a bit ironic for one such as yourself to speak of 'power-tipsy demagogues'. By the very nature of your stratagy, you are setting youself up to reign suppreme. ;) :p
Oh and one more thing: Shame, Gil-galad, shame!
Anguirel
02-28-2006, 02:11 PM
I can't be drunk on power.
I haven't attained any.
Yet.
Kuruharan
02-28-2006, 02:39 PM
Oh, but you have. See, the Saucie/Kuru Alliance of DOOM (to which you generously contributed the name) was partially constructed to annoy you.
Believe me, I know what I am talking about here, you have power when people want to annoy you.
Although, at the moment, I'm admittedly more interested in annoying phantom.
Why don't you join us for a bit? Then we could have the Ang/Saucie/Kuru Alliance of Uber-DOOM!! (Notice how I offered to give you top billing.)
Edit: Maybe we should offer Lalaith a spot in the Alliance of DOOM and call it the Alliance of Ultra-DOOM...
Anguirel
02-28-2006, 02:43 PM
That would entail you releasing Goldie and hunting Fuinur, about whom, to be fair, we know zilch. The fellow hasn't opened his mouth yet. He's obviously banking on playing the ethnic minority card to secure victory...
If you think talentless people should be given a free ride by virtue of their melanin while interesting extroverts go down like dominoes, go ahead, vote for poor maligned Ar-Pharazon, and I hope you're pleased with yourselves...
Kuruharan
02-28-2006, 02:45 PM
I hope you're pleased with yourselves
Very. We're annoying already.
My master The Saucepan Man will be pleased. :D :p
the phantom
02-28-2006, 03:10 PM
Then we could have the Ang/Saucie/Kuru Alliance of Uber-DOOM!!
Oh, please. You could stretch your alliance to include nearly every member of the Downs and it still wouldn't be worthy of using the term "uber"- not when its goals are opposed to what is right (ie what the phantom says).
The only alliance deserving of a grand title around here is Kuru and SP's alliance with uber-idiocy.
Lalaith
02-28-2006, 03:26 PM
A spot? What sort of spot?
Anguirel
02-28-2006, 03:58 PM
Transparently a berth in the bilges...
Formendacil
02-28-2006, 04:29 PM
The first day of voting is over. The Remade citizens of Arda sit back and note with amusement the following final distribution of the votes:
Sauron: I
Glorfindel: I
Anárion: I
Fuinur: I
Durin III: IIIII
Ar-Pharazôn: IIIII I
With six votes out of a total of fifteen cast, Ar-Pharazôn narrowly heads off Durin III for the first dismissal. It would appear that the voters of Arda Envinyanta haven't forgotten the man who did more than Melkor to destroy the world as we know it.
Tribe of the Noldor:
Ereinion Gil-galad,
Elrond Peredhil
Galadriel
Celebrimbor
Glorfindel
Tribe of the Sindar:
Celeborn
Círdan
Orophir
Amdír
Celebrían
Tribe of the Númenoreans:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Tar-Aldarion
Erendis
Tar-Míriel
Tribe of the Elendili:
Amandil
Elendil
Isildur
Anárion
Ohtar
Tribe of the Other Speakers:
Durin III
Narvi
Fangorn (Treebeard)
Fimbrethil
Thorondor
Tribe of the Baddies:
Sauron
The Witch-king
Khamûl
Herumor
Fuinur
Those Voted Off:
Ar-Pharazôn the Golden
Day 2 is up! Vote to your little hearts' contents.
Kuruharan
02-28-2006, 04:33 PM
Announcer: Welcome back to the Second Age Survivor brought to you by Swallow Hard, your cure for all gall bladder complains. Remember, when you have excess gall, use Swallow Hard. And we’re back to the action. I’m joined here in the booth by Bob. Bob, what is your take on the action?
Color Commentator: Well Cliff, the main development has been the reformation of the Saucie/Kuru Alliance of DOOM! This limping juggernaut may or may not have a discernable impact on the course of the game. They are currently offering a spot to the Elector Lalaith. This would simply involve the three of them combining votes until such time as they all ran out of mutually agreeable targets for eviction. At that point they will undoubtedly turn on each other. However, by that point they will probably have burned through about five or six candidates that they don’t like. (did you get all that Lalaith? ;)) Kuruharan is currently hoping that Holbytlass will put in an appearance because he has a deal to propose.
Oh yes, and there may have been a successful eviction or some rot like that, I can't be bothered with following the details when I'm analyzing the game.
Meanwhile, whether or not the Alliance of DOOM has a discernable impact on the voting, they are already succeeding in annoying Anguirel and the phantom. This has been great for the ratings.
Announcer: And why is that Bob?
Color Commentator: (Where is my Martini James Bond?!! Somebody is going to be fired for this!!!)…ahem, sorry. The viewers find the spectacle of the phantom losing it to be irresistible. When he starts cracking up (and we are seeing signs of this) he has a tendency to sometimes become hysterical, which is hysterical. The viewers love hilarity. He also is one of the top targets on H.A.G.’s hit list because he is a male chauvinist. Anything that annoys him is good in their eyes. (They also resent the fact that he won’t try to seduce them…but I won’t say anything about that because we’ll be sued again.) F.A.T. and R.E.A.L. F.A.T. also (oddly enough) can agree on the fact that they don’t like him because he is better looking and more successful with the ladies than they are.
Announcer: (That git!)
Color Commentator: They are just green with envy. Uhh…Cliff, you don’t look so good…turning an interesting shade of teal…
Announcer: Nonsense! The phantom is more than welcome to see our show and watch our commercials.
Sideline Reporter: THE PHANTOM?!! Did you say the phantom?!! He’s watching now?!! And I’m without my leather!!!
Announcer: No fair, I’ve never seen you in your lea…
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Director: We interrupt this program to give a stern talking to in the general direction of the broadcast team about proper behavior, and to get the stiff drinks out of the booth. We will take advantage of this opportunity to show a few more hours of commercials.
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Eomer of the Rohirrim
02-28-2006, 04:36 PM
++TAR-ALDARION
The most boring character ever. Oh, look at me! I'm in a mutually unsatisfactory relationship! But do I try to add any drama to my story?
Answer's no. A total waste of space. I've decided that both he and Erendis must go. As long as this is brought about, I shall be happy.
Lalaith
02-28-2006, 04:59 PM
Ok, I'm spotted.
I quite like Eomer's reasoning vis a vis Tar-A - are you up for this, team?
Kuruharan
02-28-2006, 05:18 PM
Yeah, I pretty much am. We'll have to see what Saucepan Man says.
Gil-Galad
02-28-2006, 05:34 PM
++TAR-ALDARION
yeah i would have to do that too...
Glirdan
02-28-2006, 07:30 PM
Ooo!!! Bandwaggoning!! Yay!! :D
++TAR-ALDARION
Elu Ancalime
02-28-2006, 09:08 PM
Yay! Second Age!
Yeah, Tar Aldarion belgongs on a soap oprea.
++Tar-Aldarion
________
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The Saucepan Man
02-28-2006, 09:41 PM
How marvellous. The Alliance of Doom has already scored one victory. :D
Glad to have you aboard, Lal. :)
How absurd. If this game isn't about the characters, then I hardly think it qualifies as being Middle Earth related, and therefore the thread should be deleted by The Barrow-Wight.You speak as if we were the only ones here. Every Reality Show has it's fair share of uninformed and/or dispassionate voters who frustrate the true fans by consistently voting off the contestants that they like. The Alliance of Doom is merely reproducing that effect for this show, thus providing it with the necessary degree of reality. :p
I am, in any event, fairly dispassionate about the Second Age, so it's a natural role for me to fulfil.
Yeah, I pretty much am. We'll have to see what Saucepan Man says.I am reserving judgment at the moment.
Alcarillo
02-28-2006, 09:53 PM
Alright people, first you kick off Ar-Pharazon, who I would've liked to see stay, and now you gang up on Aldarion. Soon Numenor will be kingless at the pace you people are voting for them.
Why don't you vote for the other estranged couples, like the ents and the entwives? They've done far less for Middle-Earth than what Tar-Aldarion did.
++Fangorn
Celuien
02-28-2006, 09:55 PM
Fimbrethil and Fangorn were originally brought onto the program to increase the romance factor. Unfortunately, Entish romance has turned out rather dull owing to the extreme non-hastiness of the society as a whole. Fimbrethil is a bit more hasty than Fangorn, given her long years of wandering. Besides, she has important skill as a gardener for the farming challenges. Fangorn just lets the weeds spring up where they please. And so:
++FANGORN
arcticstorm
02-28-2006, 10:26 PM
I think Aldarion is a fine example of one we should keep on the island. He is more than just part of a hurting romance, he is allso involved in an intense romance with the only lover who cannot be denied, the sea. Anyone who does not have this cannot know what it is like. I have only tasted a small part and believe me that his continued survival will make for excellent ratings because of his affair with the ocean. Therefore, I will vote for the otehr alternative.
++Fangorn
the phantom
02-28-2006, 10:50 PM
Hmm... the choice is between a Numenorian and an Other Speaker.
I wouldn't mind seeing either of them go. Better yet, both at once! :) The Numenorians looked decent at the start, but much of the appeal was Ar-Phar, who is now gone, so the Numenorians are pretty useless now. And the Other Speaker tribe- well, they were unattractive to begin with. I'd vote for all of them if I could.
Anguirel
03-01-2006, 01:10 AM
Wait! I have another option!
Vote Thorondor. Yes, Eagles are wonderful, but this one's really outstayed his welcome by participating. He isn't mentioned once in the stories of the Second Age, as far as I recall...
++THORONDOR
Formendacil
03-01-2006, 01:56 AM
Vote Thorondor. Yes, Eagles are wonderful, but this one's really outstayed his welcome by participating. He isn't mentioned once in the stories of the Second Age, as far as I recall...
Captain's Prerogative...
There's plenty of mention of the "Eagles of Manwë" come about the time of the Akallabêth. In rounding out my "Other Speakers" group, I elected to assume that Thorondor is, in fact, a sentient being on par with any other here, and that he was, in fact, among the Eagles who "bombed" Númenor after Ar-Pharazôn's departure for Valinor.
That said, I don't care one way or another if he stays or goes. He was a lovely character in the First Age, but in this he's filler.
Nilpaurion Felagund
03-01-2006, 03:22 AM
A filler. Die:
++Thorondor
Anguirel, I would like to offer you a deal. I (and perhaps my sister Lhuna) will help you get Fuinur tomorrow, in exchange for not voting for certain characters until the merge. Will you accept?
(I like the politics of this game. We need stuff like this in WW!)
Anguirel
03-01-2006, 03:28 AM
Hmmm. Send a confidential messenger to my camp and we shall discuss this...proposal...
Lalaith
03-01-2006, 03:39 AM
You know, the more I think about it, the more I dislike Tar-Aldarion.
Commitment-phobe. *shudder*
So, for now,
++TAR-ALDARION.
If the Alliance has strong objections to this vote, I will of course honour my pledges and change it.
Lhunardawen
03-01-2006, 03:39 AM
++THORONDOR THE FILLER
A soap opera is bad, but a blank TV commercial is worse.
We can't let that alliance of ultra-doom (mark the lowercase letters) have all the fun. What say you, Anguirel?
Tuor of Gondolin
03-01-2006, 08:25 AM
+ + Thorondor The Silent. Did he have larengytis
all through the Second Age?
arcticstorm
03-01-2006, 09:09 AM
ok, in order to save Aldarion
--Fangorn ++Thorondor
The Saucepan Man
03-01-2006, 11:54 AM
Ah well, even though I prefer the maritally mistreated Tar-Aldarion to the self-indulgent Erendis, I am always willing to stick up for those steady chaps who are more easily overlooked.
I will therefore vote with the newest member of our Alliance (although I suspect that we may disgaree over Erendis :D ).
+ + TAR-ALDARION
Anguirel
03-01-2006, 11:58 AM
Lhuna, I, like the great ship-king Tar-Aldarion, am not inclined to commit myself. But while our loose pact is mutually convenient, I hope it will be of profit to us and irritation to our foes. Though it looks like it's not getting off to a glorious start.
Thorondor's had his time. His participation is undignified. He really needs to retire and stop cramping the style of people who actually get mentioned in the Second Age...
Eomer of the Rohirrim
03-01-2006, 12:00 PM
What? Were you kids treated cruelly by your grandparents or something? Fangorn is easily the most loveable character on this show.
Kuruharan
03-01-2006, 12:01 PM
Hmmm. Send a confidential messenger to my camp and we shall discuss this...proposal...
GASP!! Cheating!! This breaks the standards of openness set by the Alliance! We've conducted our business out in the open in front of everybody!
We must ponder whether to stoop to your level!! ;)
++ Tar-Aldarion
Anguirel
03-01-2006, 12:08 PM
Oi, you, Eomer, vote for Thorondor or I'll vote for Fangorn.
And my Lhunatic and Nilpaurionesque chums may well stand with me.
Lalaith
03-01-2006, 12:26 PM
Don't worry Saucie. While I have rather more sympathy for Mrs Tar-A than her roving spouse (because he was an absentee father as well as a bad husband) she's still a flawed character and I'm not going to fight for her. I just wanted him to go first.
the phantom
03-01-2006, 01:03 PM
I'm hoping for a double lynching.
+ + Thorondor
Anguirel, if you and your chums abandon your votes for Thorondor and put them on Fangorn, I will do the same, because I don't really care which of them goes.
the phantom
03-01-2006, 02:05 PM
If you will help me defend two characters of my choosing I will do all I can to defend two characters of your choosing.
mormegil
03-01-2006, 02:06 PM
++Thorondor
This bird has out lived his usefullness and should be dismissed without further delay
Formendacil
03-01-2006, 02:08 PM
The Second day of voting is over. The Remade citizens of Arda sit back and note with amusement the following final distribution of the votes:
Fangorn: II
Thorondor: IIIII II
Tar-Aldarion: IIIII II
Once again, a King of the Númenoreans received an eviction notice from the game. It seems that the good voters of Arda Envinyanta were highly Catholic in their thinking, and looked down in disapproval on Arda's foremost example of marital strife.
However, Tar-Aldarion was not alone in his eviction, but was accompanied from the game by Thorondor. The voters did not feel, it seemed, that he had a real right to be present.
Tribe of the Noldor:
Ereinion Gil-galad,
Elrond Peredhil
Galadriel
Celebrimbor
Glorfindel
Tribe of the Sindar:
Celeborn
Círdan
Orophir
Amdír
Celebrían
Tribe of the Númenoreans:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Erendis
Tar-Míriel
Tribe of the Elendili:
Amandil
Elendil
Isildur
Anárion
Ohtar
Tribe of the Other Speakers:
Durin III
Narvi
Fangorn (Treebeard)
Fimbrethil
Tribe of the Baddies:
Sauron
The Witch-king
Khamûl
Herumor
Fuinur
Those Voted Off:
Ar-Pharazôn the Golden
Day 3 begins now! Vote away as you please.
Formendacil
03-01-2006, 02:09 PM
NOTICE: Morm's under-the-wire vote will be counted.
Edit to the last post coming up.
Kuruharan
03-01-2006, 04:52 PM
If you will help me defend two characters of my choosing I will do all I can to defend two characters of your choosing.
Thank you for calling the Alliance of DOOM.
Your attention is important to us. Please hold for the next available operator.
Anguirel
03-01-2006, 04:56 PM
Zzzz++DURINzzzIIIzzz
(Note from Anguirel's automated robovoter-the sender of this vote is sleeping. This is a neoautovote 2000.)
Celuien
03-01-2006, 05:27 PM
++Durin III, aka The Dull
In this case, three is not better than one.
Gil-Galad
03-01-2006, 05:37 PM
sure why not
++Durin III
Glirdan
03-01-2006, 06:16 PM
++Durin III
He really is annoying. Like I said earlier as well, I'd rather not see anothe Dwarf.
Elu Ancalime
03-01-2006, 06:29 PM
++DURIN THE DANK (Durin III)
How smart was it to take a Ring of Power from an Elf? He was greedy, and his kin in The Hobbit Survivor paid the price, and now its time for him to suffer the consequenses with his bretheren.
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Nilpaurion Felagund
03-01-2006, 06:51 PM
++Durin three
He doesn't have the appeal (or the delete-member capability) of Orogarn Two. :smokin:
the phantom
03-01-2006, 10:02 PM
Thank you for calling the Alliance of DOOM.
Your attention is important to us. Please hold for the next available operator.
If I have to hold more than a few hours the offer is dead. And believe me, you will regret not taking the offer.
+ + Durin III
Death to the Other Speakers!!
mormegil
03-01-2006, 11:03 PM
++Elros
Seriously choosing to be mortal...this man must be touched in the head. However, his more henious crime is that of brotherhood to Elrond the Horrible.
Lhunardawen
03-02-2006, 01:02 AM
++DURIN DUH THURD
Though it looks like it's not getting off to a glorious start.Why, what did you have in mind?
Anguirel
03-02-2006, 01:28 AM
I was worried at that point that Thorondor wouldn't bite it. Pessimism; all was somewhat better than I'd feared...
The Saucepan Man
03-02-2006, 04:25 AM
+ + DUR ...
No ... I ... am an ... individual ... Will ... not ... follow like others ... like ... a sheep ...
How about the nancing Elf boy who decreed that the Witch-King would not fall by the hand of a Man? If he hadn't opened his big mouth and blurted that out, it would have saved a lot of fuss and bother.
+ + GLORFINDEL
Lalaith
03-02-2006, 04:32 AM
If I have to hold more than a few hours the offer is dead
Timezones, duckie, timezones. I'm sure we can all come to some mutually beneficial arrangement.
Now, who to vote for - to tag onto the Durin bandwaggon, so *boring*....hmmmm....
++AMDIR
Crazy name, crazy guy. :rolleyes:
Tuor of Gondolin
03-02-2006, 07:08 AM
Yawn. This voting trend seems as crooked/fixed as
an American Republican controlling a Florida recount vote
(well, maybe not that biased). ;)
+ + The Alliance Of Doom
The Saucepan Man
03-02-2006, 07:33 AM
Yawn. This voting trend seems as crooked/fixed as
an American Republican controlling a Florida recount vote
(well, maybe not that biased).
+ + The Alliance Of DoomAre you calling the inegrity of the Alliance of Ultra-DOOM into question? Be careful what you say, or there could be repercussions ...
I would, in any event, point out that (morm apart) only the members of the Alliance of Ultra-DOOM have voted differently and for contestants other than Durin III, thus illustrating their inedependence and integrity and injecting a much-needed modicum of variety into the proceedings. :p
Tuor of Gondolin
03-02-2006, 08:34 AM
Hmm. Interesting defense by SpM.
Btw, Belladonna wants to
form an anti-Alliance of Ultra-DOOM
(apparently she's an extremely
poor loser) but her father won't yet
spring for a high speed internet connection.
Now if the family could just get hold of some
great hoard of wealth...
"A hobbit scorned"
Kuruharan
03-02-2006, 08:37 AM
Announcer: And we’re back to Second Age Survivor, brought to you by Fast Fat. Remember, to gain back all that tricky weight you lost while dieting, take Fast Fat! I’m joined in the booth by Bob, but now for a report by our sideline reporter Amanda.
Sideline Reporter: (Lower the camera angle!) Thank you Cliff. The recent action has been the most boring so far in Second Age Survivor. Not since the finale of Hobbit Survivor has anything been duller. Even the contestants are bored and have started a conga/limbo line.
Announcer: mmmaaaahhh…what, sorry! Whuh, Bob!
Color Commentator: Whaat?!
Announcer: Your analysis.
Color Commentator: Oh, uhhhh, Isildur made it through the limbo without any trouble whatsoever. Sauron was stuck for a moment but then he decided to step over. Tar-Miriel pulled out a broadsword and chopped the limbo stick in half. This caused a bit of a problem until everybody grabbed Fimbrethil and used her as the limbo stick. When Treebeard came through, he’d forgotten that she was there and accidentally trampled her. This caused the dance to break up in confusion as paramedics stormed the building, inflicting a few more casualties.
Announcer: What will happen now?
Color Commentator: I’m going to order a nice brandy.
Mr. Billy Club hits Bob on the noggin
Color Commentator: I mean, I think Kuruharan will vote for…
++ Amandil
…completely at random to show solidarity with those who are protesting all the group think that was going on earlier.
Announcer: We’ll be right back.
arcticstorm
03-02-2006, 12:27 PM
I will now return to my vote from day 1
++Glorfindel
Formendacil
03-02-2006, 03:08 PM
++Elros
Seriously choosing to be mortal...this man must be touched in the head. However, his more henious crime is that of brotherhood to Elrond the Horrible.
You answered your own question. How else was he to permanently escape? :p
Formendacil
03-02-2006, 04:42 PM
The Third day of voting is over. The final distribution of votes is as follows:
Amandil: I
Amdír: I
Elros: I
Glorfindel: II
Durin III: IIIII III
There seems to be a clear anti-king trend among the voting. Once again, a male ruler gets the axe, in this case the Dwarven King.
Those remaining:
Tribe of the Noldor:
Ereinion Gil-galad,
Elrond Peredhil
Galadriel
Celebrimbor
Glorfindel
Tribe of the Sindar:
Celeborn
Círdan
Orophir
Amdír
Celebrían
Tribe of the Númenoreans:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Erendis
Tar-Míriel
Tribe of the Elendili:
Amandil
Elendil
Isildur
Anárion
Ohtar
Tribe of the Other Speakers:
Narvi
Fangorn (Treebeard)
Fimbrethil
Tribe of the Baddies:
Sauron
The Witch-king
Khamûl
Herumor
Fuinur
Day 4 begins now! Vote away as you please.
Anguirel
03-02-2006, 04:52 PM
Save the Kings! Down with the pox-ridden republicans!
A clear destabiliser of monarchy was
++HERUMOR
whose methods were so depressing even Tolkien couldn't write about them for long, it seems...oops, that would be the Fourth Age chappie. Ah well. Still a blimming anti-monarchist schemer. Get him.
Celuien
03-02-2006, 05:47 PM
Sounds good to me, Ang.
++HERUMOR
Spreader of vicious rumors and drinker of excessive quantities of rum.
Gil-Galad
03-02-2006, 06:10 PM
why not the other one too? double-vote em off
++Fuinur
Elu Ancalime
03-02-2006, 06:54 PM
The book Anthem and in paticular objectionalism says that if Herumor and Fuinur had the willpower and sole justification, then they are obliged to dominate weaker willed men, being the Haradrim. Dont hate the peeps, hate the theory. :p (not like i belive that personally) :rolleyes:
++ELROND PEREDHIL
He does not have the willpower to survive through any Survivor game. Leave the Weak at the Door.
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Nilpaurion Felagund
03-02-2006, 07:31 PM
++Herumor
Her room or . . . or what???
*groan*
The book Anthem and in paticular objectionalism says that if Herumor and Fuinur had the willpower and sole justification, then they are obliged to dominate weaker willed men, being the Haradrim. (Elu Ancalime)Any sissy can dominate the Haradrim. Why, look at Sauron.
Elu Ancalime
03-02-2006, 08:39 PM
Any sissy can dominate the Haradrim. Why, look at Sauron.
Yes, but Sauron was doing it for militaristic means. Because of their weak will, Sauron was able to use them in a frenzy to beef up his army. The principle is not that Sauron and Heremor and Fuiner were too weak to dominate anybody else, but they were smart enough to realize that theese people would listen to one who seemed supernatural(i.e. maia and Numenoreans)
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the phantom
03-02-2006, 10:03 PM
++ELROND PEREDHIL
He does not have the willpower to survive through any Survivor game. Leave the Weak at the Door.
It's fine to vote for Elrond, but it'd be nice if you gave a reason that is actually real. Tolkien's books say nothing about Elrond lacking willpower or being weak. It's quite the opposite, actually. Are you, perhaps, getting the real thing confused with the movies?
Lhunardawen
03-02-2006, 10:25 PM
++ELROND PEREDHIL
LotR. The Silmarillion (not that he was in that season of Survivor, but still). The Hobbit. And now Second Age. Aren't you just sick of him?
the phantom
03-02-2006, 10:57 PM
Aren't you just sick of him?
Not really. I find it difficult to get sick of someone who is so awesome. He is the heir of the Noldorin Kings, the Sindarin Kings, the three great houses of men, and an Ainu. And despite his ridiculously good genes he never gets all full of himself (like Galadriel does).
Elrond was very wise, an expert healer, and a master of lore, but many forget that he was also called in LOTR "hale as a tried warrior in the fulness of his strength".
And here's my favorite description of him, from The Hobbit-
as noble and as fair in face as an elf-lord, as strong as a warrior, as wise as a wizard, as venerable as a king of dwarves, and as kind as summer.
And then check out this quote-
The Third Age came to its end in the War of the Ring; but the Fourth Age was not held to have begun until Master Elrond departed, and the time was come for the dominion of Men
Elrond was so important that they did not begin the next age until he left. It was only after his departure that Men could begin their dominion, which makes it quite clear that Elrond, due to his lineage and power, was technically the top authority in Middle Earth. It was no accident that the fate of Middle Earth was decided in Rivendell at the Council of Elrond.
Nilpaurion Felagund
03-02-2006, 11:30 PM
Yes, but Sauron was doing it for militaristic means. Because of their weak will, Sauron was able to use them in a frenzy to beef up his army. The principle is not that Sauron and Heremor and Fuiner were too weak to dominate anybody else, but they were smart enough to realize that theese people would listen to one who seemed supernatural(i.e. maia and Numenoreans) (Elu A.)I'll say it again:
Anybody, even a pink marshmallow-bred Orc with brains the size of an angels's dance floor, can dominate the Haradrim. Dominating the Haradrim is hardly accomplishment of the hour even for a person of mediocre ability, let alone something you can base a reputation on.
as noble and as fair in face as an elf-lord, as strong as a warrior, as wise as a wizard, as venerable as a king of dwarves, and as kind as summer.Bilbo was bribed.
The Third Age came to its end in the War of the Ring; but the Fourth Age was not held to have begun until Master Elrond departed, and the time was come for the dominion of Men'twas but a coincidence.
C'mon, you can't use such quotes do defend this character! It's about as factual as the report on White Oliphaunts drinking Anis del Toro on the hills of Ebro!
Anguirel
03-03-2006, 01:14 AM
I'm now predicting that Saucie and Kuru wil jump on Elrond, a vast bandwagon of Elrond votes will follow, (not, incidentally, including Lalaith's) and an Elf-slaughtering bandwagon will be set in motion that leaves the Noldor and Sindar completely decimated...
Come on, o Downers. Vote for the tedious Communist Easterling nonentity...
Formendacil
03-03-2006, 02:05 AM
I'm now predicting that Saucie and Kuru wil jump on Elrond, a vast bandwagon of Elrond votes will follow, (not, incidentally, including Lalaith's) and an Elf-slaughtering bandwagon will be set in motion that leaves the Noldor and Sindar completely decimated...
Come on, o Downers. Vote for the tedious Communist Easterling nonentity...
Yes, amusing isn't it, how any show of SUPPORT for a particular character tends to mobilize the masses against that character...
Well, it seems that we've found one of the Phantom's favourite characters. How long can even the Phantom make him last, I wonder?
the phantom
03-03-2006, 02:22 AM
I'm now predicting that Saucie and Kuru wil jump on Elrond, a vast bandwagon of Elrond votes will follow
I hope that doesn't happen. There is a chance that Kuru and SP will find a more logical use for their anti-elvish sentiments, and will vote for someone who truly deserves the boot, such as Amdir.
Yes, the great Amdir, an elf-lord of such great importance that nine out of ten Barrow-Downers have no clue who the little twerp is.
+ + Amdir
I'm hoping I won't have to mount an all out defense of Elrond, but if he comes under fire, I suppose I will- if I have enough time, that is.
Hmm... if all else fails perhaps I will call upon the power of the League of Extraordinary Barrow-Downers.
Anguirel
03-03-2006, 02:25 AM
Fighting fire with fire? Go against Herumor and we can be safe in numbers...
Nilpaurion Felagund
03-03-2006, 02:26 AM
I've just been wondering: Why the sudden switch? At first you were interested in getting rid of Fuinur first, but now you go after Herumor. Not that it bothers me in the least; I'm just curious.
the phantom
03-03-2006, 02:33 AM
Go against Herumor and we can be safe in numbers...
I'm staying off the bandwagon just for a bit to see what the Alliance of Doom does. If they come out against Elrond then I'll change my vote to Herumor and ask a few others to do the same to save Elrond. This day still has many hours left in it.
Anguirel
03-03-2006, 02:33 AM
Well, you see, I recognised in Fuinur a character so boring that he'd actually prove quite difficult to evict. People just won't get excited about him, positively or negatively...
Herumor is a slightly happier medium.
Nilpaurion Felagund
03-03-2006, 02:40 AM
Then Fuinur just might win by apathy. Perhaps I should dig up some dirt on him . . .
Slightly off-topic: I'm quite suprised to that some vote with a space between the two plusses. Sauce, Tuor, tp. Interesting . . .
The Saucepan Man
03-03-2006, 07:25 AM
Yes, the great Amdir, an elf-lord of such great importance that nine out of ten Barrow-Downers have no clue who the little twerp is.Makes sense to me. Who was he again? I am prepared to endorse him as the Ultra-Alliance of DOOM's candidate for today.
+ + AMDIR
Slightly off-topic: I'm quite suprised to that some vote with a space between the two plusses. Sauce, Tuor, tp. Interesting . . .Just following instructions:
Votes are retractable. They should appear like this:
++ Nilpaurion Felagund
Anguirel
03-03-2006, 08:13 AM
Most cunning. Trying to initiate an elf-massacre by another route. To me, to me! Down with Herumor!
Notice that Amdir is yet another king. Stop the regicides...
Kuruharan
03-03-2006, 08:37 AM
This time, not only were there an overabundance of Elves, there was also an overabundance of kings and queens. We can hardly avoid regicide. There are just too many of them lying around. I think it is high time we began trimming pointy ears.
Trying to recall off the top of my head, I think
++ Amdir
was Amroth's father or something like that. Characters of this extreme shadowy obscurity do tend to obfuscate the festivities.
(And the Alliance of Ultra-DOOM succumbs to a moment of phantomness... ;) )
Anguirel
03-03-2006, 08:41 AM
I think it is high time we began trimming pointy ears.
I sense a bitter Dwarf...
Kuruharan
03-03-2006, 09:30 AM
I sense a bitter Dwarf...
And I sense an alarmed elf-lover who just made a mistake in showing his fear to the rest of us.
Lalaith
03-03-2006, 09:34 AM
I'm very happy to save Elrond today.
++AMDIR
Anguirel
03-03-2006, 09:37 AM
And I sense an alarmed elf-lover who just made a mistake in showing his fear to the rest of us.
I'm glad we've put our cards on the increasingly dodgy table. But I assure you it is not fear, but contempt, for your irritating swarms of commoners, rallying to a demagoguic flag, and tearing down an edifice they do not understand.
I'm interested to see that Lalaith has joined the Roundheads.
Lalaith
03-03-2006, 09:50 AM
Now, now, Ang, don't make too many rash assumptions.
Elrond is probably safe for today, surely that should please you just a little?
Anguirel
03-03-2006, 10:05 AM
If these jesters are allowed to take down Amdir, father of Amroth, Leander of Middle-Earth, folkloric and generally wondrous, Elrond will be next, directly or indirectly. I know the wiles of these crocodiles.
Every time you vote with these rapscallions, Lalaith, their poison trickles into your mind. Break loose today! I demand no bond of alliance. Together, acting as individual entities not a single zombified crushing mechanism, we can rid Arda Envinyatur of the pathetic would-be-despot Herumor.
littlemanpoet
03-03-2006, 10:39 AM
++ Herumor.
Just because I can. :p
the phantom
03-03-2006, 10:47 AM
Elrond will be next, directly or indirectly.
Don't worry, Anguirel- Elrond will not be next. I will save him, and any other of the Noldor who comes under attack.
Except Galadriel. I don't like her much.
Anguirel
03-03-2006, 10:53 AM
The Noldor are now indeed Doomed...
I'll repair the damage.
I'll, er, defend the Elendili with every breath in my body. And you can quote me on that...
Tuor in Gondolin
03-03-2006, 12:41 PM
+ + Celebrimbor
Because I keep spelling his name incorrectly! :mad:
Formendacil
03-03-2006, 08:42 PM
As the Fourth day of voting drew to an end, it was clear that there was no one, single bandwaggon prevalent. The final distribution of votes is as follows:
Celebrimbor: I
Fuinur: I
Elrond: II
Amdír: IIII
Herumor: IIII
Once again, a King is killed- albeit, since it's Amdír, it's hardly a huge loss. One could almost make the case that since Herumor appears in the Silmarillion, while Amdír only made Unfinished Tales, Herumor is the greater loss.
Either way, they're both gone.
Those remaining:
Tribe of the Noldor:
Ereinion Gil-galad,
Elrond Peredhil
Galadriel
Celebrimbor
Glorfindel
Tribe of the Sindar:
Celeborn
Círdan
Orophir
Celebrían
Tribe of the Númenoreans:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Erendis
Tar-Míriel
Tribe of the Elendili:
Amandil
Elendil
Isildur
Anárion
Ohtar
Tribe of the Other Speakers:
Narvi
Fangorn (Treebeard)
Fimbrethil
Tribe of the Baddies:
Sauron
The Witch-king
Khamûl
Fuinur
Day 5 begins now! The only tribes untouched are the Noldor and the Elendili- the tribes the Phantom and Anguirel have respectively sworn to protect, interestingly enough. Vote away as you please.
Gil-Galad
03-03-2006, 10:13 PM
now for the next one
++Fuinur
mormegil
03-03-2006, 10:22 PM
++Elros Tar-Minyatur
Seemingly he couldn't teach his decendents to behave themselves.
Elu Ancalime
03-03-2006, 11:20 PM
I pleade to protect the Elendili as well, they are the true champions.
++Elrond
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the phantom
03-03-2006, 11:38 PM
Once again, Elu Ancalime, you have voted for Elrond without saying why. Are you going to give a reason?
Elu Ancalime
03-03-2006, 11:42 PM
Don't worry, Anguirel- Elrond will not be next. I will save him, and any other of the Noldor who comes under attack.
I ask the same, Phantom.
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the phantom
03-03-2006, 11:47 PM
I ask the same, Phantom.
And once again, you haven't answered my question.
And what do you mean, "I ask the same"? I stated my reasons for supporting Elrond quite clearly on the last page in this (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=450444&postcount=102) post.
So, are you actually going to answer my question at any point, or do you plan on making a meaningless comment every time I ask?
Elu Ancalime
03-04-2006, 12:27 AM
I may have hinted at my reasoning, even though what was posted was more light. This comes back to campaign against charactar or campaign for vendetta. The literary character of Elrond Half-Elven has not generated any broad and lasting support throughout these 'sessions of persausion.' If there is not a popularity to defend him, I have the justification to make effort for his removal.
Huh. I think I may have unknowningly compelled myself into the DOOM Factor.
=KuruVery. We're annoying already.
=KuruThe game is about vendettas, not characters.
=Kuru Ooo...get to annoy Anguirel and the phantom
I would say a delicate balence, because Phantom was right about 'Joe' and 'Bob,' but then certain character would be off automatically.
I guess I should present myself to SpM in chains now...
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Anguirel
03-04-2006, 01:45 AM
Well, since this is now indisputably war, let's have a look at the statistics.
Those treacherously removed by the insidious Alliance of Ultra-Doom
Ar-Pharazon
Tar-Aldarion
Amdir
Those cunningly driven out by the Heroic Resistance of Individual Freethinkers
Thorondor
Durin III
Herumor
Everything lies in the balance still. The fate of Arda Envinyata could go either way...
Let's finish the good we began, albeit half-heartedly, yesterday.
Fuinur is an anagram of RUIN UF (short, I presume, for UFO). So to add to his numerous other crimes, we now know that Fuinur spent his time vandalising the spacecrafts of respectable aliens!
Take him dooown...Heroic Resistance...with me!
++FUINUR
the phantom
03-04-2006, 01:55 AM
So, if I understand you correctly, Elu, you are voting for Elrond because in past games he hasn't been popular.
I suppose that is a reason, but it's not what you would call a solid reason.
Reason should matter in this game, wouldn't you agree? If someone has given good solid reasons not to vote for a certain character you should not vote for them unless you have some good solid reasons of your own to combat the defender.
Your reason "I voted for Elrond because he wasn't popular in the last game" is not a solid reason compared to my text-based defense of Elrond, therefore I don't see how can you justify voting for Elrond. A decision like that adds nothing but randomness to the game.
When anyone, without much of a reason, votes for someone who has been very well defended with Tolkien quotes, he is basically saying "I ignore people's arguments." And if you ask me, that sort of thinking makes this entire game pointless. This game should be about arguing, debating, and convincing, not about voting for a character on a whim and refusing to change it despite good arguments from others.
Anguirel
03-04-2006, 02:02 AM
++Elros Tar-Minyatur
Seemingly he couldn't teach his decendents to behave themselves.
This is the most hilariously awry case launched so far today.
I mean, how many of us can teach their descendants to behave themselves? It's quite tricky when you're a corpse...
dancing spawn of ungoliant
03-04-2006, 05:22 AM
I feel there's something rotten here. Yes, I'm talking about Glorfindel's decaying remainders. I may not be as well aware of profitable tactics and strategies in this game as the rest of you, but I know one thing: Glorfindel's hardly a survivor.
Just take a look at his achievements:
Well, he managed to take a powder when some baddies came to Gondolin. Very brave. Too bad he got killed by the first enemy that passed his way after it.
Also, he was able to sprout some yellow flowers from his deceased body which itself is a nice trick, but really, do we want to watch how grass slowly grows taller on prime time?
To be fair, it is said that Glorfindel pulled a balrog with him as he fell off a cliff after a fight. But then again, what's so great in a battle that ends in a draw? Now, how did it go... a draw means that no-one wins which means that everybody loses. Great. He's officially a loser. Besides, I have my doubts that he even managed to kill the balrog. You see, unlike the balrog, Glorfindel didn't have wings ( :p ) and it's a fact that he ended up dead whereas our balrog, well, after some skydiving he probably just fluttered away.
It is also said that without Thorondor, Glorfindel wouldn't have had any chance to beat the enemy he encountered on the mountains (actually, he wasn't able to win even with the eagles). Now that Thorondor has been voted off, I don't see much sense in keeping goldilocks around either. Therefore...
++Glorfindel
Oh, and for those who rely on anagrams when making their decisions on who should leave: Glorfindel = Old elf girn. What do we do with a decrepit complaining chap like him? One of the Noldor or not, I would ask you to consider whether you really want to keep such a wuss around.
Eomer of the Rohirrim
03-04-2006, 06:27 AM
++ERENDIS
Now that her not-so-loving-husband's gone you'd think she'd loosen up a bit; but she's still boring. Moaning, complaining, not having fun. I don't want her on the show, and I don't want to read her awful story ever again.
Anagram? Um...ok: DEER SIN I'm not sure what it means but I guarantee it's bad. String her up!
The Saucepan Man
03-04-2006, 07:20 AM
Those cunningly driven out by the Heroic Resistance of Individual Freethinkers :eek: :D
I guess I should present myself to SpM in chains now...Your petition is acceptable. As is your choice of candidate for removal. The less reasons the better, I think, as it annoys the phantom.
+ + ELROND
Because he was only a standard-bearer. A mere functionary.
the phantom
03-04-2006, 08:07 AM
The less reasons the better
I am disappointed that you have sunk to this level. I think it is time someone challenged you, SPM.
The League of Extraordinary Barrow-Downers wishes to kill-
+ + FUINUR
Anguirel
03-04-2006, 08:18 AM
Actually, I'm considering cutting the apparatchniks and going straight for "Annatar".
It would be a blow to pompous, over-mighty Maiar all over the place...
But I'll only act if sufficient interest is shown.
lord of dor-lomin
03-04-2006, 08:26 AM
Phantom made me get online just to do this. Not that I mind. I, too, am a big Elrond fan. So to save him...
The League of Extraordinary Barrow-Downers wishes to kill-
+ + FUINUR
(this game looks fun, maybe I'll stick around and play)
the phantom
03-04-2006, 08:28 AM
maybe I'll stick around and play
You should, and thanks for your help.
Now we will await the other members of the League.
Anguirel
03-04-2006, 08:29 AM
(this game looks fun, maybe I'll stick around and play)
Nota bene Alliance of Doom...!
Glirdan
03-04-2006, 08:55 AM
++Erendis
I would think that after her husband got voted off she'd lighten up. But Noooo!
Kuruharan
03-04-2006, 09:03 AM
Announcer: And we’re back to Second Age Survivor, brought to you by Hack-n-Cough, your cure for the common cold. I’m joined in the booth by Bob…
Color Commentator: Hello.
Announcer: And on the sidelines by…wooboy! by the lovely in black leather Amanda!
Sideline Reporter: Bye losers! I’m off to a rock concert to find myself a real man…or throw my room key…and other things, at the band members. If that doesn’t work then I’ll stand in line after the show is over and maybe one of the band members will autograph my leg! Point is, I’m splittin’.
walks off
Announcer: She can’t do that! Security! Stop her!
Officer Walley and Mr. Billy Club attempt to tackle the Sideline Reporter. The Sideline Reporter administers one swift kick to the YEEEEEOUCH!! and Officer Walley drops to his knees. The Sideline Reporter finishes him off with another kick to the head.
Color Commentator: I guess she can do that.
Announcer: What is your analysis?
Color Commentator: I think this so-called League might be in a spot of bother. They seem to be earnestly defending the Noldor, even though this will ultimately lead to disaster as surely as, well, as your love life is going to go down the tubes Bob.
smack
Color Commentator: Anyway, we can already see this process beginning. Multiple Noldor are now being mentioned as potential eviction candidates. Particularly troublesome from the perspective of this so-called League is the repeated intervention of Elu Ancalime against Elrond. Sooner or later persistence will pay off. Also alarming from the perspective of the League is the intervention of dancing spawn. She is dangerous because she has an uncanny ability to draw people over to her side. I think this may be the beginning of the end for Glorfindel unless somebody can convince her otherwise. While these are trends, at the moment Erendis has emerged as a serious candidate for eviction today.
Announcer: That’s enough from you! And now for a report from Amanda!
Amanda?
Hello?
Oh, yeah…right. weeps
Color Commentator: Oh, get over it! We’ll be right back.
Anguirel
03-04-2006, 09:08 AM
I wish to announce, incidentally, that I am not affiliated with this League and have very little idea what is going on, but that I am undoubtedly enjoying it.
Oh and Kuru, Bob needs to get Amanda back, otherwise ratings will collapse, and your security just isn't up to it. I'd be happy to undertake to to track her down and tempt her back into this game.
Black leather transcends petty differences...
Kuruharan
03-04-2006, 09:12 AM
I am not affiliated with this League
Also sometimes known as the "Heroic Resistance of Individual Freethinkers." Apparently they are so disorganized they can't get their name straight. :p
EDIT: Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to track down one Amanda Bobblehead. I'd suggest looking in all the concerts in the greater Middle-earth area. Be wary, while she normally has dark brown hair with blonde highlights, she will undoubtedly have dyed her hair a shocking shade of pink in order to confuse...practically everybody. You will need to be wearing armor as subject is likely to resist violently. *clanks down large, cumbersome sensitive area protector* Never take this off while you are on your mission.
This post will self-destruct in thirty seconds.
Anguirel
03-04-2006, 09:13 AM
No, Kuru, you're confused. The League is a League. An alliance like yours, it seems.
The Heroic Resistance is a wider concept. A cause.
Now how about my offer?
Kuruharan
03-04-2006, 09:17 AM
The Heroic Resistance is a wider concept. A cause.
You're just trying to pull the wool over people's eyes.
Now how about my offer?
See above post.
Anguirel
03-04-2006, 09:24 AM
Perhaps. But surely it's better to appeal generally to a sense of justice than to bind thralls in vassalage?
And mum's the word. Donning Galvorn mail. I'll be setting off from Andunie in just under an hour...
Kuruharan
03-04-2006, 09:29 AM
Donning Galvorn mail.
Take very good care of this equipment 00.5.
Tuor in Gondolin
03-04-2006, 09:41 AM
Ditto:
The League of Extraordinary Barrow-Downers wishes to kill-
+ + FUINUR
dancing spawn of ungoliant
03-04-2006, 10:24 AM
Okay, I'm kind of confused with all these Alliances, Leagues and 'wider concepts'. The League of Extraordinary Barrow-Downers wishes to kill-
+ + FUINURSo, there's a League of Extraordinary Barrow-Downers that chooses a target every day and every League member then votes for him or her. And then there's the Alliance thing that acts about the same way. Interesting. Or a bit boring, perhaps. Then at the end of a day the group that has more members gets their candidate voted off, and there is much rejoicing? Splendid. But what about us lone wolves?
Really, what does a girl have to do to get some support nowadays -- join a trade-union?
Now that her not-so-loving-husband's gone you'd think she'd loosen up a bit; but she's still boring. Moaning, complaining, not having fun. I don't want her on the show, and I don't want to read her awful story ever again.
++Erendis
I would think that after her husband got voted off she'd lighten up. But Noooo!Ah, but every show must have the snappish one who is never happy with the way things are. Other contestants and even the viewers make her the official scapegoat whom they can blame for, I don't know, wars, global warming... anything they can think of. Don't you think that keeping her around would be good for people's mental health? Plus, at least this lady has some temper unlike a certain Noldo. *coughGlorfindelcough*
Celuien
03-04-2006, 11:08 AM
The League of Extraordinary Barrow-Downers wishes to kill-
+ + FUINUR
the phantom
03-04-2006, 11:12 AM
So, there's a League of Extraordinary Barrow-Downers that chooses a target every day and every League member then votes for him or her.
No, Spawn. The League is being called upon to temporarily defend a quality character from the assault of The Alliance of Doom. It was Sauce's vote that forced The League's hand. He has shown himself willing to make annoying me his first priority rather than carefully considering and weighing characters, and that is simply not right. So, The League is coming against him, to show him that he and his friends in the "Alliance of Doom" aren't the only power on this thread.
The League supports good honest debate over mindless vendettas.
Thanks for your support Celuien, Tuor, and lord.
More will come.
Celuien
03-04-2006, 11:31 AM
The League supports good honest debate over mindless vendettas.
So we do.
Elrond must not fall today! He is so much more than a standard-bearer, functionary, or other relatively insignificant anthill denizen.
Elrond was so important that they did not begin the next age until he left. It was only after his departure that Men could begin their dominion, which makes it quite clear that Elrond, due to his lineage and power, was technically the top authority in Middle Earth. It was no accident that the fate of Middle Earth was decided in Rivendell at the Council of Elrond.
That about says it all.
I stand with Elrond for his wisdom, courage, and general...awesomeness. ;)
Eomer of the Rohirrim
03-04-2006, 12:19 PM
--ERENDIS
++FUINUR
I too love and respect Elrond. My help may not prove important, but if it affords my Erendis campaign a little sympathy then it could be doubly worthwhile.
Spawn, you are wrong to call Erendis 'the snappish one' or a generally exciting anti-establishment malcontent (as you so clearly implied :p ). She is a grumpy and worthless old bat whom no-one could possibly like.
Eviction is too good for her. I say we feed her to the wolves.
Anguirel
03-04-2006, 12:40 PM
HEAVILY ARMOURED FIGURE: (speaking through visor) Well, here we are in Andunie, and before I take ship for Middle-earth I'm intending to interview Her Majesty Queen Erendis, who may have important evidence regarding Amanda's location.
ERENDIS: May have? Is that any way to address your sovereign?
HEAVILY ARMOURED FIGURE: Well, er, technically...
ERENDIS: Particularly when her feckless husband had sailed away with some slag to a rock concert, leaving her heartbroken...
ANGUIREL: (for it is he) Wait! Slag? Rock concert? Where was this...
ERENDIS: Silence, rascal. Do not befoul my regal and tragic dignity with your coarse questions.
ANGUIREL: No, no, Your Majesty, that wasn't the intention at all...
(Enter the Elendili, carrying imposing swords.)
ELENDIL: Is that journo spiv giving you trouble, Ma'am?
(Anguirel clanks from the scene as subtly as possible.)
Boromir88
03-04-2006, 02:11 PM
The League of Extraordinary Barrow-Downers wishes to kill-
+ + FUINUR
dancing spawn of ungoliant
03-04-2006, 02:34 PM
No, Spawn. The League is being called upon to temporarily defend a quality character from the assault of The Alliance of Doom. It was Sauce's vote that forced The League's hand. He has shown himself willing to make annoying me his first priority rather than carefully considering and weighing characters, and that is simply not right. So, The League is coming against him, to show him that he and his friends in the "Alliance of Doom" aren't the only power on this thread.
The League supports good honest debate over mindless vendettas.Ah, sounds honourable, your phantomness. However, I haven't seen much honest debate today. Fuinur was chosen for the 'Save Elrond' vote without much ado, and after that there has been very little talk about anyone else. Elrond has two votes. A big bandwagon for saving him seems a bit superfluous, although maybe its purpose is just to prove how powerful you really are. Pretty impressive, actually. Well, I look forward to hearing more of people's personal interests tomorrow.
Spawn, you are wrong to call Erendis 'the snappish one' or a generally exciting anti-establishment malcontent (as you so clearly implied :p ).She is a grumpy and worthless old bat whom no-one could possibly like.Why, I agree completely. She's horrible. But she provokes emotions. People gather in front of their TV sets every time to wonder her latest whims - and imagine the related merchandise: dartboards with her face printed on them, for example. Although... she might be just a bit too horrendous to keep around for long.
I too love and respect Elrond. My help may not prove important, but if it affords my Erendis campaign a little sympathy then it could be doubly worthwhile.
Well, Fuinur has now eight votes, so it really doesn't seem to be making a difference anymore (that's some skilled fawning, nonetheless :p ;) ). Hmmm, a little sympathy you want?
littlemanpoet
03-04-2006, 03:30 PM
The League of Extraordinary Barrow-Downers wishes to save Elrond, and so I will cast my vote for:
+ + FUINUR
Far be it from us to see any Noldor doomed to death.
Alcarillo
03-04-2006, 03:46 PM
I'll have to side with the League.
++Fuinur
Lalaith
03-04-2006, 04:21 PM
Its Extraordinary how this League supresses individuality....what a bunch of sheep, really....we in the Alliance positively encourage free-thinking.
++Isildur
reasons:
a. Elendili need whittling
b. Should have listened to Elrond, eh, Peredhil-lovers?
Anguirel
03-04-2006, 04:24 PM
Its Extraordinary how this League supresses individuality....what a bunch of sheep, really....we in the Alliance positively encourage free-thinking.
++Isildur
reasons:
a. Elendili need whittling
b. Should have listened to Elrond, eh, Peredhil-lovers?
You know what? I happen to share the League's interests in many cases, but I rather agree.
--FUINUR, ++SAURON OR GIFT-VOUCHER OR IVAN THE TERRIBLE OR WHATEVER IDIOCY HE CHOOSES TO CALL HIMSELF
littlemanpoet
03-04-2006, 04:34 PM
You misunderstand. There is no supression of individuality. There is a unity of purpose. A drive! A force to be reckoned with! The will to win! We will win! Hah! :mad: :cool: :smokin:
Celuien
03-04-2006, 04:44 PM
Indeed. There is strength in numbers. And in common interests. Onward! Onward to victory! :smokin: :cool:
Elu Ancalime
03-04-2006, 07:29 PM
Your reason "I voted for Elrond because he wasn't popular in the last game" is not a solid reason compared to my text-based defense of Elrond, therefore I don't see how can you justify voting for Elrond. A decision like that adds nothing but randomness to the game.
But see, without randomness, either Sauron or Isildur would win by default, because Treebeard for example-conqured nothing in the Second Age that matches Middle-Earth.
________
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the phantom
03-04-2006, 10:50 PM
But see, without randomness, either Sauron or Isildur would win
I do not believe it is that clear cut.
I think there are several characters that could be argued for besides Sauron and Isildur. One of the best candidates was Ar-Pharazon, but we killed him right off the bat. You know who to thank for that. That was one reason I defended him. He had the credentials to challenge for the title at the end.
Other characters that I believe it is possible to rally around are Gil-galad, Elrond, The Witch King, Celebrimbor, Elendil, and Galadriel (even though I can't stand her).
When I looked at the list on the very first day, I thought that a final grouping of Sauron, Elrond, Ar-Pharazon, and Isildur would have been great fun. The biggest baddie of the age, two big name Kings from the end of the age who both conquered Sauron but were also ensnared by him, and an enigmatic Elf-lord.
Though Ar-Phar is gone, I have not given up hope. I think we still have a chance to narrow the field down to several quality individuals and then have loud spirit filled debates to determine the winner.
Formendacil
03-05-2006, 12:20 AM
The Fifth day of voting drew to an end, one candidate having garnered an overwhelming majority of votes, although the number of players increased. The final distribution of votes is as follows:
Elros: I
Glorfindel: I
Erendis: I
Isildur: I
Sauron:
Elrond: II
Fuinur: IIIII IIII
Fuinur, little known and ill loved, was evicted by the largest vote thus far. Sacrificed for Elrond's sake, he departed the game, never to return (as stated in the rules...).
Those remaining:
Tribe of the Noldor:
Ereinion Gil-galad,
Elrond Peredhil
Galadriel
Celebrimbor
Glorfindel
Tribe of the Sindar:
Celeborn
Círdan
Orophir
Celebrían
Tribe of the Númenoreans:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Erendis
Tar-Míriel
Tribe of the Elendili:
Amandil
Elendil
Isildur
Anárion
Ohtar
Tribe of the Other Speakers:
Narvi
Fangorn (Treebeard)
Fimbrethil
Tribe of the Baddies:
Sauron
The Witch-king
Khamûl
Day 6 begins now! Vote as you please.
Formendacil
03-05-2006, 12:26 AM
Attention People, your Moderator has a quick announcement to make...
The past Day started off the great Save Elrond campaign with the Phantom asking Elu Ancalime to explain his vote for Elrond.
Now, in the past couple games, the moderators had requested that all votes be accompanied by some sort of rationale- a rule put in place to stimulate debate.
When I set up this game, I deliberately didn't put any such rule in place. After all, the fun here is the alliances and the arguments and the petty squabling and revenge- right?
Well, maybe or maybe not.
This is, don't forget, a Tolkien-based game. So, I would like to see, if possible, some reasoning, preferably Tolkien-based, no matter how illogical or distorted, to accompany your votes.
This does not mean that votes without a rationale will necessarily be disqualified. As the day just ended shows, a little bit of lack of reasoning CAN stimulate debate and make for an awesome day.
However, just to make it quite clear, if the Moderator (that would be me) so desires, he can and possibly will, disqualify votes lacking a reason- votes such as Elu Ancalime made yesterday.
I might, or I might not. To vote without a rationale, therefore, is a gamble. I advise doing so with caution.
Thank you, you may return to the search for the lovely Amanda. :p
Anguirel
03-05-2006, 02:02 AM
Those treacherously removed by the insidious Alliance of Ultra-Doom
Ar-Pharazon
Tar-Aldarion
Amdir
Those cunningly driven out by the Heroic Resistance of Individual Freethinkers
Thorondor
Durin III
Herumor
Those overwhelmed by the League of Extraordinary Barrow-Downers
Fuinur
The balance swings against the Alliance as a powerful new player enters the stage...
But as the Alliance is now in the unlikely position of underdog, it's possible that it will wheedle back some support.
As for me, I shall vote once more for a character I dislike who is, methinks, unlikely to have the League's backing...thereby keeping Individual Freethinking alive...
Down with grasping Maia! Down with cursed jewelry! L'Imagination Au Pouvoir!
++ANNATAR, LORD OF TACKINESS
EDIT: In other news, this evening I am due to arrive at Mithlond, Lindon, to attend a rock concert performed by Ereinion Gil-Galad and his backing group, Cirdan and Elrond...perhaps I shall find Amanda this time...
Lhunardawen
03-05-2006, 02:33 AM
How I have erred! Please accept my most humble apologies, Lord Phantom.
I have realized just now why I should keep Elrond around as long as possible. Mostly because of association, admittedly, but I still shouldn't give him my vote before others less worthy of staying in the game are booted out.
With that said, allow me to vote thusly:
++CELEBORN
Teleporno. Need I say more? (Many thanks to Nilp, in LotR Survivor.)
Besides, what a wimp he is, letting a woman overshadow him.
Anguirel
03-05-2006, 02:34 AM
Lhuna, you do not know what terrible, terrible wrath you have just unleashed.
Lhunardawen
03-05-2006, 03:04 AM
I think I do. Not that it matters.
I want him out!!!
Nilpaurion Felagund
03-05-2006, 03:05 AM
Slightly off-topic: I'm quite suprised to that some vote with a space between the two plusses. Sauce, Tuor, tp. Interesting . . . (Nilp)
Just following instructions: (SpM)No, I meant the space, like this:
+ +
as opposed to this:
++
But whatever.
++Glorfindel
Really, he lets that spoiled Elf Arwen steal his horse. That 'Balrog' he 'beat' must have been a foot and a half tall. And wingless. :D
Lhunardawen
03-05-2006, 03:14 AM
And your vote has nothing to do with dancing spawn making an elaborate case against him, I take it?
Nilpaurion Felagund
03-05-2006, 03:21 AM
And your vote has nothing to do with dancing spawn making an elaborate case against him, I take it? (Lhunadaga :p )Such a banal accusation against me. I have a mind of my own, mind you.
dancing spawn of ungoliant
03-05-2006, 05:56 AM
As for me, I shall vote once more for a character I dislike who is, methinks, unlikely to have the League's backing...thereby keeping Individual Freethinking alive...I'm delighted that you are showing an example of thinking independently, Sir Anguirel. Would it be possible for me to interest you in a brief cooperation that would hopefully turn out to benefit both of our campaigns?
dancing spawn of ungoliant
03-05-2006, 06:18 AM
I forgot to vote in that previous post. I still think that the tribe of Noldor would look 20% more glorious at the very instant when Glorfindel is kicked out for the same reasons as yesterday.
++Glorfindel
The Saucepan Man
03-05-2006, 06:31 AM
I rather fail to see anything "extraordinary" about this so-called League ... :p
And the more people that profess to be members of it, the more it looks suspiciously like a close-knit alliance. One that threatens to dominate the show. It must be resisted.
Some rather good points have been made in favour of evicting Glorfindel. And I must profess that my only real interest is, as always, to try to maintain balance between the tribes. The Noldor and the Elendili are looking rather strong so, right now, I will place my vote for:
+ + GLORFINDEL
So pathetic in the Second Age that he had to be given another opportunity in the Third. When his sole contribution was to have his horse nicked by Arwen. ;) :D
Although I remain open to sensible suggestions for any member of the Noldor or Elendili tribes.
Glirdan
03-05-2006, 08:53 AM
Must save Glorfindel!!!
++Celeborn
Where oh where has Folwren wandered off to in my time of need?? Lhuna, I shall join forces with you. Let's get rid of this, this.....ah, I can't think of anything mean to say about him as you already said it. Besides, Galadriel does all the work. Celeborn is only there for moral support.
Kuruharan
03-05-2006, 09:13 AM
Announcer: Noooobody knoooooows the trouble I seen,
Noooobody knoooooows my sorrow…
Oh, we’re back. Who cares. The light has gone out of my life. My joy, my happiness. Now all I have are my *hic* memories…and this bottle of Captain Ishmael Strangereek’s for company…
Color Commentator: And they say I’m a lush. Two elves seem to be on the agenda for today. Apparently, the electors are finding the overabundance of elves to have a similar effect to two flasks of Cap’n Strangereek’s Amber Amnesia on an empty stomach.
Announcer: Noooobooody knoooooows, how drrry I…errr…am
Color Commentator: Speaking of Amber Amnesia, much to his embarrassment, Kuruharan has realized that he totally forgot to actually cast a vote yesterday. Ooops.
Meanwhile, in a dark underwater lair…
Spokesperson: Fellow members of H.A.G., I call this meeting to order. We have before us a great opportunity! We have the chance to kill the gorgeous Amanda Bobblehead!!
wild applause
Spokesperson: My friends, I too can barely restrain my glee at the chance to destroy this icon of male fantasy…
wild applause and cheering
Spokesperson: Please, we must have order…order…THERE IS A DANGER!!! Thank you. Secret Agent Double Oh-Point Five has been assigned the task of tracking her down and rescuing her.
wild sounds of fury
Spokesperson: That’s right my friends…and what fate do we have in store for those who attempt to defend such fixtures of the male libido as sideline reporters?
H.A.G.: DEATH, DEATH, DEATH!!!
Spokesperson: BAWH-HAWH-HAWH-HAWH!!!
Director: The forces of H.A.G. have been unleashed against the steely will of Secret Agent Double Oh-Point Five. Will he be able to survive? Will he find and rescue Amanda Bobblehead? Will he triumph in the end? Since this is a cheap cable channel production, we will have to wait to find out after these commercial messages.
Lalaith
03-05-2006, 10:40 AM
....I'm assuming this is satire, Kuru.....
Lalaith
03-05-2006, 10:52 AM
....oh yes....the voting.
Glorfindel - it's not *his* fault he became the poster boy of a certain reactionary anti-Arwen fanboy element in the Third Age. But, let us actually re-examine this Third Age Glorfindel. He had the light of Valinor in his face, did he not....implying that he was only recently returned from his soujourn with Mandos.
So who is this Glorfindel anyway? The scion of the House of the Golden Flower of Gondolin? The Asfaloth chap? Both? Should he be around in the second age at all? I quote from the Encyclopaedia of Arda:
The question of Glorfindel's identity, then, brings us to a much wider, and highly relevant, question. Can we accept a writer's personal notes, whether written in preparation for a published work, or simply for personal satisfaction, as part of that writer's 'canon'?
So you see, keeping him around is not only confusing, it could open a can of literary worms compared to which the Balrog controversy and the Canonicity thread would seem like an ABC primer.
++GLORFINDEL
Celuien
03-05-2006, 11:06 AM
Hmm. I'm fond of both Glorfindel and Celeborn.
My opinion of Celeborn was given rather extensively in a prior edition of this show. As for Glorfindel, well, he is an amazing character too. How can one not like a great Elf-lord, returned to Middle-earth from Mandos after defeating a Balrog? By special permission, I might add.
As for the Canonicity issue, I always enjoy a good can of worms. :p
I would like to introduce
++FIMBRETHIL
into today's voting for being relatively insignificant. All we know about this Entwife is that she disappeared. What does she really contribute? Not much. If we want to keep an Entish representative for now, it should be Fangorn, who at least aided the War of the Ring to some extent.
I hope the League will agree.
Eomer of the Rohirrim
03-05-2006, 12:16 PM
I am confusing these factions. And anyone who wants my support *coughyouknowwhoyouarecough* must realise that my agenda is very simple. Erendis must be eliminated.
Don't get me wrong, I love Elrond and Treebeard and I'd be very happy to see one of those two win this contest.
But my aim is to destroy that old witch. Spawn, I see your point; but Erendis generates 'the wrong kind of heat', as the wrestlers call it, and she will force viewers to turn off.
I'd vote but my computer seems to have turned it's back on me by altering certain settings...
Eomer of the Rohirrim
03-05-2006, 12:18 PM
++ERENDIS
A quick slap to the side of the head, and lo! it works again. (Who knew the bold function could be so complex?)
Kuruharan
03-05-2006, 12:29 PM
I'm assuming this is satire
Is it Art imitating Life, or is it Life imitating Art?
Hmmmm...we ponderses this, preeeciousss, yeeesss, we ponderses...
I'm going to go ahead and at least for the time being vote...
++ Glorfindel
...because no Noldor have been voted off yet and it is high time for it. The Sindar have already suffered a casualty and we need to spread that around. So have the Other Speakers. Of the available Noldor, Glorfindel is the least compelling character. And Agent Double Oh-Point Five should be happy with this vote because Glorfindel was not a king. (I would think he would have noticed this point).
I might be willing to drop a clue about where he should search next if he'll change his vote. ;)
littlemanpoet
03-05-2006, 01:47 PM
Representing the League of Extraordinary Barrow-Downers, I deplore this many votes for Glorfindel.
Thus I shall do my part in adding to an alternative bandwagon which I wholeheartedly support.
++ Celeborn
....for removing Galadriel from amongst those numbered as fair maidens, however bold and proud (and tall :eek: ) and thus depriving the rest of us men a most suitably droolable and fetching lass;
....for marrying above his station.
He should have remained single and let Celebrimbor have her, at the very least. Wimp.
Gil-Galad
03-05-2006, 02:12 PM
++ Glorfindel
ha ha glirdy
dancing spawn of ungoliant
03-05-2006, 02:17 PM
What's this? The Alliance thing is unanimously voting for Glorfindel? Yay for extra votes for him, but I hope the other 'clubs' won't make it their business to build some more or less random bandwagon just to spite them because otherwise I'll never have a chance to get Glorfindel lynched. :( I mean, voted off. Not that I'd mind if he got lynched. He would probably just keep reincarnating out of thin air like a weed anyway.
But my aim is to destroy that old witch. Spawn, I see your point; but Erendis generates 'the wrong kind of heat', as the wrestlers call it, and she will force viewers to turn off.Ah, it took me a while to realize that you weren't calling me an old witch.... at least yet.
Well, if you are so sure that there's something wrong with the heating, or whatever you are saying ( ;) ), I can't argue with that. Actually, if you vote for Glorfindel, I'll gladly help you getting rid of Erendis.
Firefoot
03-05-2006, 02:36 PM
++Glorfindel :p
The Noldor seem to be the top guns in just about everything else, and Glorfindel doesn't really have much to do with the Second Age, anyway...
Anguirel
03-05-2006, 02:45 PM
First, defence of freedom of the press and defiance of the mob mentality. That seems to mean: be done with the over-haughty Queen
--SAURON, ++ERENDIS
Following shortly...an update on the Amanda situation. Agent Anguirel reaches Mithlond and finds all not as it seems...
Kuruharan
03-05-2006, 02:49 PM
First, defence of freedom of the press and defiance of the mob mentality. That seems to mean: be done with the over-haughty Queen
And earlier he was the one complaining about the regicide...
Maybe I should have literally specified what the vote should have been changed to.
Silly me.
I await the further adventures with the greatest of anticipation... ;)
Anguirel
03-05-2006, 03:22 PM
(The camera pans over a wide, grey sea. Waves lash. Foam leaps. Gulls squawk hauntingly.)
(We see a ship, tiny in the immense swell. It is purple, pink, gold, and silver in colour, and looks thoroughly tasteless against the Romantic, refined background.)
(Close-up on a familiar figue in black plate armour staring meaningfully out to sea.)
ANGUIREL: I am about to struggle with one of the most awesome, unstoppable and terrifying forces in Arda...
(A vast, vast wave towers above the ship. A storm is howling. Land comes into sight, still far off, and the distant lights of Mithlond.)
FAR-OFF VOICES: Gonna get me a paaal-aaant-iiiiir...gonna get me a Sil! Mar! Il!
ANGUIREL: ...elvish pop music.
(Cut to Anguirel walking through a street in Mithlond to Gil-Galad's palace, which is emanating raaave sounds. Anguirel approaches an Elven Bouncer, imposing and bearded.)
ANGUIREL: Excuse me, have you seen two humans here, a recently evicted King filing for divorce and a ravishingly attractive love goddess?
CIRDAN: Maybe I have, 'n maybe I haven't. Wasinitfame, yo?
ANGUIREL: (sighing) Never mind. Could I have a ticket for the next performance by Spearplay?
CIRDAN: It'll cost ya, mate.
(Cut to Anguirel in the front row. Ereinion Gil-Galad and his backing group, Glorfindel, Elrond and Celeborn, are onstage.)
ANGUIREL: Fans of Elven boybands say that they're at their best when illustrating the range of their tonality.
GIL-GALAD: Yaaah, yaaah, gonna beat Annataar!
ELROND: Er, yeah, um, yeah, yar. (Aside) Is this the sort of thing you wanted, my lord?
GLORFINDEL: And I'm singin' and slingin' becos Gold is best.
CELEBORN: What did you say?
GLORFINDEL: Gold is best.
CELEBORN: Oh yeah? Well is you hard enough for silver, yo?
(He grabs Glorfindel's hair and they collapse to the ground, scratching and biting.)
ELROND: (to Anguirel, apologetically) They're the best of friends really.
ANGUIREL: Quite...ah...have you seen a King called Tar-Aldarion?
ELROND: Yes, actually. He's been imprisoned for disorderly behaviour.
ANGUIREL: And was he accomp...
ELROND: Oh, her. Don't ask, friend. Just don't...
GIL-GALAD: (in tears) Amaaanda!
ELROND: There, there, my lord...try Eregion, old chap. You might just have better luck.
ANGUIREL: Thanks for the help.
(He clanks out in an easterly direction.)
the phantom
03-05-2006, 03:24 PM
The Noldor seem to be the top guns in just about everything else
So we should kill them because they are superior?
I have always thought that people who have a grudge against "superior" people and want them out of the way are equally as bad as Hitler and his buddies who wanted everyone who was "inferior" out of the way. It's the same thing.
I've seen that attitude a lot on the Downs over the years, and it makes me sick. I will never vote someone off for being too good, too strong, too powerful, or too awesome, and neither should anyone else. That is a horrid attitude.
and Glorfindel doesn't really have much to do with the Second Age, anyway...
Now that is a reason I can respect. I think Glorfindel would be more of a First Age or Third Age favorite than a Second Age favorite. Because of that, I don't feel the need to mount a huge campaign to save him.
However, I definitely don't want to see Glorfindel go. He is wise, brave, and definitely good, and I think that anyone who would vote to kill him before some of our other options is crazy.
For those of you concerned with the abundance of elves, why don't you kill a Sindarin elf, like Oropher. What did he do, besides get himself and lots of his people killed in the battle against Sauron?
For those of you who want an elf dead, I suggest compromising and killing Oropher.
Now, if you want to kill Glorfindel because he is one of the Noldor, and you are concerned that the Noldorin tribe hasn't lost anyone yet, please remember that there is another tribe that has yet to lose someone- the Elendili!
Surely Anarion doesn't deserve to stand beside his great brother and father. And surely Ohtar, who ran away with Isildur's heirlooms while his company was being attacked, does not deserve a place amongst the great.
For those of you who want to see balance among the tribes, I suggest compromising and killing Ohtar or Anarion.
That is all for now. I have things to do.
Lalaith
03-05-2006, 03:39 PM
I will never vote someone off for being too good, too strong, too powerful, or too awesome
So what's your problem with Galadriel, hmm?
Firefoot
03-05-2006, 03:42 PM
And you, phantom, don't have enough respect for those who don't get enough credit. Anarion died while trying to defeat Sauron - that's worthy enough. And Ohtar, beloved and trusted by Isildur, is mighty enough in himself. He may not have been the valiant war hero, and because of this merits only passing mention, but why attack him for doing all that he could? He did not "run away" - he followed Isildur's command, which was to save the shards of Narsil at all costs, even that of "being held a coward who deserted me." And that is exactly what you are saying, phantom, you who are so supportive of Isildur would go against Isildur himself!
Sometimes the underdogs deserve a chance to let themselves show their mettle, and that doesn't happen while all these mighty Noldor and high kings are running around (Glorfindel, Elrond, Galadriel, Elendil, Isildur, to name a few). I don't have a grudge against them, but they aren't the only ones who should receive credit. So many other people that aren't mentioned much contributed so much behind the scenes and in smaller but no less important ways. You seem intent on obliterating them. It's like giving all the credit in a movie to the actors but never mentioning the people who made the sets, wrote the script, did the filming, etc.
Anguirel
03-05-2006, 03:46 PM
It's like giving all the credit in a movie to the actors but never mentioning the people who made the sets, wrote the script, did the filming, etc.
That's rather pious. We all do that. Come on, how often do you think, in the middle of a searing love scene or something, "Oh, I say! We ought to remember the contribution of cinematographer #96!"
Firefoot
03-05-2006, 03:52 PM
That's rather pious. We all do that. Come on, how often do you think, in the middle of a searing love scene or something, "Oh, I say! We ought to remember the contribution of cinematographer #96!" But should it be like that (not necessarily during the movie, but...)? Why do you think they award Oscars for more than just acting? And just because it may be like that, does that mean it shouldn't change - at least here, in this game?
Anguirel
03-05-2006, 04:04 PM
You can't beat huuuman natuuure...
The Saucepan Man
03-05-2006, 05:39 PM
Firefoot, the illogicality and prejudice of the phantom's position (that the Noldor are wonderful and superior and should not be touched -oh, except Galadriel, of course 'cos she's a girlie - while most of the rest can go and hang) is frankly not worth responding to. :D
Elu Ancalime
03-05-2006, 06:52 PM
++Glorfindel
Right, so he was in the Second Age, but what did he do?
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Alcarillo
03-05-2006, 08:21 PM
++Fimbrethil
Even less of a character than Fuinur. She's mentioned once or twice in The Two Towers, and now she gets her own spot in Second Age Survivor. She's just a filler for the Other Speakers category. And all she did was to provide Treebeard with something to sing about hundreds of years after she left. Not much of a role if you ask me.
the phantom
03-05-2006, 11:07 PM
I will never vote someone off for being too good, too strong, too powerful, or too awesome
So what's your problem with Galadriel, hmm?
Oh, sheesh, you don't want me to get started. When I feel it is time to attack her, I will fully explain my reasons.
For now, let me just say that Elrond never gave himself too much credit, you never got the sense that he wanted his subjects to worship him, and most Tolkien fans don't give him too much credit (they usually give him too little). Galadriel on the other hand..... :rolleyes:
Now, Firefoot, you are seriously trying to make a case for Ohtar? Saving sword shards does not vault a character into the big leagues. It is absolutely silly that you are even pretending to believe he should not be voted out sometime soon.
Sometimes the underdogs deserve a chance to let themselves show their mettle
The underdogs had their whole lives to show their mettle, and guess what? The amount of mettle they showed was not sufficient to lift them above underdog position.
They are underdogs for a reason.
I don't have a grudge against them (Noldor and Kings), but they aren't the only ones who should receive credit.
I never said they were the only ones who should receive credit. I just think they are the only ones who deserve to finish the game at the top.
It's like giving all the credit in a movie to the actors but never mentioning the people who made the sets, wrote the script, did the filming, etc.
Maybe so, but the big awards go to the leading actors. Right now, we're deciding who gets the big trophy. You can thank the little people after this game is over.
the illogicality and prejudice of the phantom's position
Illogical? No. If you are unable to see my logic, it isn't because it does not exist- it is because you have too little wit to see it.
And prejudiced? No, I am not prejudiced- I am discriminating. There is a big difference. Discrimination is based on logic and leads to wise decisions. For instance, I discriminate against roads with construction zones and take other roads. I also discriminate against boiling water- I refuse to drink it if it is boiling.
But, of course, you probably are much too enlightened to make cold, cruel-hearted decisions like that. You probably feel sorry for the cup of boiling water that no one will drink, and so will set out to spill all the glasses of perfectly good water so that the scalding water will have a chance to be consumed.
Go ahead. In the meanwhile, smart people like me will try to convince other smart people that scalding water is not fit to be drunk, and that characters like Ohtar and Oropher are not fit to win Survivor.
Firefoot
03-06-2006, 06:26 AM
Hot cocoa is good. :p
Eomer of the Rohirrim
03-06-2006, 07:30 AM
Nay, Spawn; that particular game has passed us by. Do not suggest such lupine twists to my words. ;)
Anyway, as I told our megalomaniacal dwarf, my agenda is very simple: Erendis must be eliminated. Elrond, Treebeard, and a bunch of others are worthy winners as far as I am concerned; but that is of secondary importance to me.
My task will be performed, and you cannot buy or barter with me—unless, of course, you are willing to crown Erendis the Queen of Survivor.
But I know you don't want that.
So continue this petty politicking if you wish; but I am astonished and, quite frankly, disgusted that some of you would equate the values of Glorfindel or whoever with that of Erendis, brat of Numenor.
Lalaith
03-06-2006, 07:47 AM
you never got the sense that he wanted his subjects to worship him,
so unlike the homelife of our own dear phantom...
Tuor in Gondolin
03-06-2006, 10:22 AM
+ + Cirdan
An elf with a beard! :eek:
And he seems to be pretty useless in the Second Age.
Send him on vacation to Aman until the Third Age
(Cook's tour).
Formendacil
03-06-2006, 12:15 PM
The Sixth day of voting draws to an end, and despite the appearance of spirited debate, the voting came down heavily behind one candidate. The Noldor, it seems, were to be culled. The final distribution of votes is as follows:
Círdan: I
Erendis: II
Fimbrethil: II
Celeborn: III
Glorfindel: IIIII III
One the favourite "minor" characters in The Lord of the Rings, Glorfindel's popularity did not stretch to the Second Age. With an even half the votes, he was voted off.
Those remaining:
Tribe of the Noldor:
Ereinion Gil-galad,
Elrond Peredhil
Galadriel
Celebrimbor
Tribe of the Sindar:
Celeborn
Círdan
Orophir
Celebrían
Tribe of the Númenoreans:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Erendis
Tar-Míriel
Tribe of the Elendili:
Amandil
Elendil
Isildur
Anárion
Ohtar
Tribe of the Other Speakers:
Narvi
Fangorn (Treebeard)
Fimbrethil
Tribe of the Baddies:
Sauron
The Witch-king
Khamûl
Day 7 is begun! Vote away!
Anguirel
03-06-2006, 12:33 PM
I shall continue my mostly lone crusade.
Assert the rights of Children of Illuvatar over pompous, megalomaniac Ainur!
++SAURON
That out of the way, I'll be taking Elrond's advice and entering Eregion in the next episode of the Hunt for Amanda...
Elu Ancalime
03-06-2006, 01:27 PM
++Ereinion Gil-galad
There has ben a slip-up. Shoiuldnt the elves be able to defend against Sauron? The Numenoreans had to clean up in Eriador, and thats just unlike the the elves, so why should an incompetent military leader hang around?
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Anguirel
03-06-2006, 01:53 PM
I admire heroic military failures. I'm a Celt.
Glirdan
03-06-2006, 02:24 PM
++Ereinion Gil-galad
Why is there a Downer in this game? That's just not fair!!! :p
littlemanpoet
03-06-2006, 02:36 PM
++Celeborn
My reasons from above still hold, even if I couldn't save Glorfindel.
the phantom
03-06-2006, 02:42 PM
Oh, please, not another anti-Noldor band wagon.
Lay off the Gil-galad votes. He is not one of my favorites, but it is ridiculous to cast out the elf that was king for the entire age and helped overthrow Sauron.
For those interested in balance, the Elendili tribe has yet to lose a member. Ohtar seems like a good pick to me.
If you are intent on slaying an elf, do as I suggested yesterday and kill Oropher.
Anguirel
03-06-2006, 03:01 PM
Actually, everyone, there's a way of annoying the phantom without voting for Gil-Galad (whom, you have to admit, you really rather like. Last whose realm was fair and free, and all that sort of thing. Face it.)
Notice that the phantom isn't following what would, apparently, be common sense and joining up with me.
Aren't you starting to get a suspicion he rather likes Sauron? All that stuff about the powerful going forward by right?
Now refer back to his first post. He forbids you to vote for Sauron till the late stages of the game.
By joining me therefore you:
A Defy the phantom in the exercise of existential freedom
B Avoid bringing down a pretty decent Elf out of spite, and regretting it afterwards
C If you're the Alliance, gain a measure of revenge
D If you're Eomer, gain my vote for Erendis tomorrow
E If you're in the League, prove you're not a sheep but...an individual!
Vote for the overrated Sauron!
the phantom
03-06-2006, 03:41 PM
What have you been smoking, Anguirel?
Notice that the phantom isn't following what would, apparently, be common sense and joining up with me.
Why in the world would it be common sense to join up with you?
Sauron has failed to attract much attention, except from you. Joining with you hardly seems to be a powerful option. Not to mention the fact that, in my very first post, I said that big baddies should be left alone for a while to make things more interesting in the end. In addition, you are trying to get people to annoy me.
So I ask again, why in the world would it be common sense for me to join you?
By joining me therefore you defy the phantom in the exercise of existential freedom
I hardly see how not following my advice somehow equals being free. If someone is free, then they will read what others say and choose whether or not to listen to them. Someone who votes with me is every bit as free as someone who votes against me.
Not to mention the fact that you seem to be asking them to be free from me by becoming a slave to you.
Avoid bringing down a pretty decent Elf
They don't have to follow you to avoid bringing down Gil-galad. They could follow Eomer, lmp, me, or anyone not voting for Gil.
Anguirel, you can choose to deny it, but I know exactly what you are doing. You are attempting to use the power of my name to aid your cause. Simply by bringing the phantom into something, it is pretty much a guarantee you will gain support from people who either love me or hate me, depending on how you used my name.
EVERYONE, I ask that you ignore Anguirel. If you come out against him, he will simply call you a mindless phantom-following sheep, though that is not the case. On the other hand, if you go along with him in an attempt to annoy me, you will only be testifying to the weight and power of my name.
Seriously, Anguirel, it is obvious from this tactic that you are absolutely desperate to get rid of Sauron. Why don't you just hold off for a bit. When the list of characters is more narrow, I am sure you will have less trouble attracting votes. You might even get my vote depending on who Sauron is up against.
Firefoot
03-06-2006, 03:42 PM
Or we could just vote out Gil-Galad and annoy both of you...
But I think that who I'd really rather go for is Isildur. As phantom has pointed out, none of the Elendili have been voted out yet, so perhaps it is time for one of them to go. So let's look at Isildur. He basically stands around while Elendil and Gil-Galad basically wipe out and are wiped out by Sauron (talk about filial love...). Then, now that Sauron is all but defeated, in come Isildur and takes away Sauron's ring, giving the final blow to Sauron but not really the most valiant one. And, whammy, it sure doesn't take long for his will to get overthrown by the Ring. Then, at the Gladden Fields, he puts on the Ring and deserts his troops - valiant King Isildur, huh? And he dies as a coward, running from the battle.
But he's a king, you might say, and that merits some level of respect or coolness. But king by what right? By that of birth? So if he was born a complete and utter idiot, he would still be king? Birth takes nothing into account of capability, and at the end of his life, Isildur seems to be pretty well losing it. Let's face it. The guy starts out pretty cool but it's all down hill from the departure of Numenor...
++Isildur
Lalaith
03-06-2006, 03:56 PM
You know, I like the way you talk, milady Firefoot. Isildur has always slightly annoyed me. Yes, the Sauron-hand-ring thing was cool, I admit. But he really was a very silly boy subsequently. A bit like those Spitfire pilots who took to drink after the end of the war. As I said before, you should have listened to clever old cousin Elrond....
Ang, I'm sympathetic to your cause, really I am. But we need Sauron around for just a little bit longer I think.
So,
++ISILDUR
Eomer of the Rohirrim
03-06-2006, 04:05 PM
Isildur, Gil-Galad, Sauron? Why on Middle-earth would you want these guys out so early?
++ERENDIS
Lalaith
03-06-2006, 04:08 PM
Flawed and interesting, darling. Flawed and interesting.
Firefoot
03-06-2006, 04:14 PM
I still don't quite understand why you want Erendis out so bad. Now there's an odd duck that could stand to hang around for a while and make things interesting. You don't get many characters like her.
Eomer of the Rohirrim
03-06-2006, 04:20 PM
We don't want any characters like her.
I've already explained why I hate her so. "Oh, look at me! I'm in an unhappy marriage! Please listen to me grouch about my husband being away/being at home [delete as applicable] and watch as I do absolutely nothing worthy or interesting."
Utterly unlikeable.
Celuien
03-06-2006, 04:35 PM
The Great Phantom makes sense to me:
+ +Ohtar
Honestly, I wasn't even sure who Ohtar was until I went to the Encyclopedia of Arda and found this:
The squire of Isildur. One of only three survivors of the Disaster of the Gladden Fields, Ohtar rescued the shards of Elendil's sword, Narsil, and brought them safely back into the North.
Okay. Rescuing Narsil was important. But anyone could have done it just by making it through the battle, and with such a field of Middle-earth legends, he's relatively expendable. Especially compared to Gil-Galad and Celeborn.
The Saucepan Man
03-06-2006, 04:51 PM
Moving on from the phantom and Ang's little domestic ...
The Great Phantom makes sense to me ...Well at least he makes sense to someone around here, then. Good thing too. We wouldn't want his fragile ego dented, would we now? :p ;)
Seriously, a lot of fuss and bother would have been avoided if Isildur had only listened to Elrond. Weregild schmeregild. The man had less sense than a mere functionary Half-Elf. The shame of it!
++ ISILDUR
littlemanpoet
03-06-2006, 07:28 PM
Erendis?!? :rolleyes:
Isildur?!?!?! :mad:
What is up with you?
All right, it's time for me to join forces with other more reasonable folks around here.
-- Celeborn
++ Ohtar
Bringing Narsil back from the Gladden Fields doesn't even happen until the Third Age anyway, so Ohtar's greatest contribution to the history of middle earth doesn't even happen in the Second Age. Out with him.
Glirdan
03-06-2006, 07:31 PM
Ok, I'm changing my vote.
--Ereinion Gil-galad
++Ohtar
I can't see a few of those guys go. Time to join forces with Lmp!! For Isildur!! :mad:
Besides, Ohtar is useless. I mean, who wants to carry a broken sword??
Nilpaurion Felagund
03-06-2006, 08:26 PM
++Erendis, Indis-i-racism
She hates Wargs. In fact, she hates everything except herself.
If you let her win, she'll be the doom of you all. Men she will turn into home decor, women into her non-singing slaves, with children as her play-things. You have been warned.
the phantom
03-06-2006, 08:47 PM
I suppose I can understand people not liking Isildur because of the Ring thing, but honestly, what do you expect? Even Frodo, the individual handpicked to resist the Ring, was unable to toss the Ring into his cooking fire in Hobbiton. Tossing the Ring into the Cracks of Doom was beyond anyone's power. Because of that, I cannot fully hold Isildur's reaction to the Ring against him.
I think it is time one of the Elendili died, but I don't think Isildur should be the one to take the fall (not now, anyway, I'll consider him later in the game).
For right now, the Elendili that makes the most sense to kill is
+ + Ohtar
Nilpaurion Felagund
03-06-2006, 09:15 PM
Did I mention that if Eracist wins, there would be no more mirth--hence, no more Mirth?
Think about it. The survival of Survivor depends on your votes.
Feanor of the Peredhil
03-06-2006, 09:15 PM
I can't bring myself to vote for Isildur. I mean... Saucie voted for him and I've seen him in enough werewolf games that I just don't trust his judgement.
++Ohtar
Lhunardawen
03-06-2006, 10:44 PM
I thought I specifically said that no one should touch my Ereinion?
I tell you, Celeborn must be out of here. Now. Can't you see what he's doing? This is supposed to be family-friendly!
++TELE - er, ++CELEBORN
Lalaith
03-07-2006, 02:45 AM
*tut*
Calm down, people. Of course Erendis isn't going to win. She's just being kept in for a while to get things stirred up.
Tuor of Gondolin
03-07-2006, 07:03 AM
Isildur wasn't as bad as is portrayed here. Methinks people
are confusing movie Isildur with book Isildur (especially
in Unfinished Tales). While he made a teensty error in
keeping the Ring he did set up Gondor well and said he
was sorry about the Ring thing.
But how about an elf who did virtually nothing all through
the Second and Third Ages and then stayed around Middle-earth
after his wife left (rumored for skirt chasing in Great Greenwood,
although perhaps understandable if you've been married for
hundreds of years). ;)
+ + Celeborn
lord of dor-lomin
03-07-2006, 09:28 AM
Isildur is a big time guy. There is no way that he should be taken out by friggin' Ohtar.
I think Isildur will get taken out eventually, but by someone who actually has a bit of weight. And if you ask me, that's the way it should be.
I'd actually like to vote for Celeborn, but to make sure Isildur is safe...
+ + Ohtar
The Only Real Estel
03-07-2006, 10:17 AM
++ Isildur...
Elu Ancalime
03-07-2006, 10:32 AM
--Ereinion Gil-galad
++Isildur
Isidur would have been my first choice to win, but he seems careless, and overconfident-he let his gaurd down and let him self be ambushed. Clearly, Ohtar is great. He is like the one good person rising from the evil population. He was allowed to keep his life, and dignity.
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Kuruharan
03-07-2006, 11:01 AM
...to cast a vote in an effort for a double lynching...errr...I mean eviction. Did I say "lynching?" What on earth would possess me to say that?
++ Isildur
CHAOS REIGNS SUPREME!!! :p :D
EDIT: Something nobody else has mentioned is that Isildur was a notorious Warg hunter.
Anguirel
03-07-2006, 11:04 AM
I am prepared to change my vote to Isildur if, and only if, the mighty Lord Celeborn, husband of the gorgeous Galadriel, both of whom are far greater in station than Elrond, is threatened...
My adventures Amanda-seeking in Eregion are following shortly.
Tuor of Gondolin
03-07-2006, 11:28 AM
- - Celeborn + + Ohtar
Because, since it seems to be either Isildur
or Ohtar, consider Capt. Jack Aubrey's advice to
his officers when he was chasing that Frenchie
warship around South America
When in doubt, always choose the lesser of
two weevils.
Anguirel
03-07-2006, 11:47 AM
Actually, it was an American ship...they didn't tell Hollywood that though...
--SAURON, ++ISILDUR
I don't have much to say against the poor chap, except that he is an elder son. And we all know that the youngest son is always superior.
Okay, it's transparent that I'm doing this with an Ulterior Motive in mind.
Now, what you've all been waiting for...
(We see Eregion. It is evening. Everywhere there is the sound of clinking of tiny hammers and cunning tools. As Agent Anguirel comes into view, walking down a busy highway, we see piles of rings everywhere, bejewelled and pretty.)
ANGUIREL: Apparently, the Elves are forging many rings.
CELEBRIMBOR: (appearing from side-street) That's right, sir! Would you like to view our fine half-price selection?
ANGUIREL: Well...
CELEBRIMBOR: Investing in ring bonds is very wise in the current business climate, sir. Annatar Consultants Limited recently published a report that defied all the expectations of our outdated political establishment! To that end we're striving to evict Celeborn from his stupid foresty palace.
ANGUIREL: Right. Well...ah...this Annatar chappy...Gil-Galad seemed to think he might be Sauron...?
CELEBRIMBOR: What an absurd idea! Frankly, sir, when you met the High King, did he seem very credible to you?
ANGUIREL: Well, no.
CELEBRIMBOR: Was he, in fact, sober?
ANGUIREL: Well, no.
CELEBRIMBOR: Look, I'll introduce you to Annatar. Charming chap...
(Cut to Annatar Consultants Limited Head Office.)
ANGUIREL: So, Mr. Annatar, you've explained your gift-giving strategies to shareholders but can you refute accusations of Orc sweatshop labour?
SAURON: Those allegations are nonsense! Surely my alliance with Gwaith-I-Mirdain Orc-Slayers PLC should disprove that rubbish.
ANGUIREL: Well, maybe. And did a Miss Amanda Bobblehead pass through this way?
SAURON: Yes, of course! I mean...wait...no. Miss Bobblehead never came near Eregion and has definitely not been kidnapped by the secret army of Orcs I don't have and taken to Mordor, which I don't own.
ANGUIREL: Right. Thanks for your help.
(Next episode: Anguirel heads to Mordor by the first Assignment Express.)
dancing spawn of ungoliant
03-07-2006, 11:51 AM
Ohtar? Seriously, give the poor guy a break. He's the only one from the Tribe of Elendili who successfully did what he was supposed to do: rescue the shards of Narsil. What did Isildur do? Yeah, left his three sons to die, run off with the Ring and dropped it into Anduin. Well, that's great.
Besides, Ohtar is useless. I mean, who wants to carry a broken sword??Aragorn seemed to be quite happy carrying the shards around. He'd be appalled to see how you vote!
++ISILDUR
So much for the tie, Master Dwarf. :p
Thinlómien
03-07-2006, 12:00 PM
++Isildur
I've never liked him.
Formendacil
03-07-2006, 12:34 PM
The Seventh day of voting, despite an originally wide range of candidates, ended up coming down to a contest between two candidates: the Isildur the High King, and his loyal squire, Ohtar (or, should I say, his loyal Ohtar?). Only the kinsmen of the Moderator (if Lhuna is my sister, and Nilp is her brother, and Eomer is brother or cousin, then they're all my kinsmen, right?) remained aloof from the Isildur/Ohtar debate. The final distribution of votes is as follows:
Celeborn: I
Erendis: II
Ohtar: IIIII II
Isildur: IIIII IIII
Despite heavy defence from the Cavaliers, Isildur could not muster enough support to defeat Ohtar, and so went the way of Charles I, and was removed from the Survivor Game.
Those remaining:
Tribe of the Noldor:
Ereinion Gil-galad,
Elrond Peredhil
Galadriel
Celebrimbor
Tribe of the Sindar:
Celeborn
Círdan
Orophir
Celebrían
Tribe of the Númenoreans:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Erendis
Tar-Míriel
Tribe of the Elendili:
Amandil
Elendil
Anárion
Ohtar
Tribe of the Other Speakers:
Narvi
Fangorn (Treebeard)
Fimbrethil
Tribe of the Baddies:
Sauron
The Witch-king
Khamûl
Day 8 is ready to go. The voting may now begin.
Tuor of Gondolin
03-07-2006, 12:48 PM
+ + Amandil
He's gotten a good press, but consider, he was
Ar-Pharazon's buddy until the king decided he
liked Sauron better. Then Amandil sulked (because
he was no longer the numero uno counsellor? Hmm?) :)
In his youth Amandil was a great friend of Ar-Pharazon, the last king of Nùmenor. Amandil was also famed across Nùmenor for being a great sea-captain in the days of Nùmendil. However when Ar-Pharazon brought the conquered Sauron from Middle-earth, his friendship with Amandil withered. .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amandil
Kuruharan
03-07-2006, 01:18 PM
Announcer: And we’re back. This portion of the program is brought to you by the number twelve. Remember, anytime you need a number following eleven or preceding thirteen, think of twelve. Bob, what do you make of the action?
Color Commentator: Well Cliff, the results of yesterday’s voting have reduced Kuruharan to a state of hysteria. Let’s go to the field.
Announcer: We can’t! We’ve lost our sideline reporter!
Color Commentator: We still have a cameraman and a microphone. Let’s listen.
Kuruharan: My tie, my beautiful TIE!! It was RUINED!! It was such an exquisite compromise, so wonderfully crafted, so elegantly conceived, so, so…perfect. It would have left everybody equally angry and bitter. weeps. All spoiled by that interloper, that, that shameless…well, ooookay. It is kind of hard to stay mad at spawn. But I’ll have you know I was this >< close to being really angry.
Announcer: Well, I’m glad we got that out of our system! But ranting and raving won’t cure the hole that has been torn in my poor little heart! Waaaahhhhh
Color Commentator: Oh, will you stop?! Here have a drink of vodka!
Officer Walley: Stop right there! Contraband! You’re under arrest!
Color Commentator: You’ll never take me alive copper!!!
jumps out of booth window
Announcer and Officer Wally: Gosh I hope not!
Meanwhile,
Alas, Secret Agent Double Oh-Point Five was so close, but so far. As he was being whisked off to Mordor in an attempt to do away with him, the object of his affectio…quest was mere miles away.
Scene: Inside the Khazad-dum Sigin-tarag Flagship Resort et Casino.
Sideline Reporter: What do you mean we can’t stay to see the Tu Duo concert!!! That was why we came here!!! DON’T YOU LOVE ME?!!
gets the whole big eyes and trembling lips thing going
Tar-Aldarion: (Ugh! That reminds me of somebody!!) Of course, I love you darling. It’s just…we have to get out of here!
Sideline Reporter: Why, boopsie?
Tar-Aldarion: I…seem to have…gambled away most of the revenues of Numenor.
Sideline Reporter: So? I have money.
Tar-Aldarion: Oh, I didn’t gamble away most of that.
Sideline Reporter: See.
Tar-Aldarion: I gambled away every little bit of that.
Sideline Reporter: WHAT?!!!!!!!
Tar-Aldarion: Now, don’t get like that. I know how much you love me…
Sideline Reporter: DON’T YOU DARE TRY THAT ON ME!!!
Tar-Aldarion: We have to get out of here. King Durin has threatened to hand us over to Nari the Mad and Fali the Brokenbeard. I have a nasty feeling we don’t want to meet Nari the Mad and Fali the Brokenbeard.
Sideline Reporter: They’d probably treat me better!
Tar-Aldarion: Where are you going?
Sideline Reporter: To find myself a real man!!
Sideline Reporter exits casino, after telling the bouncers where to find Tar-Aldarion
Sideline Reporter: (talking on cell phone) Daddy, get the bedroom ready and tell Mom to brace herself, your darling little girl who you love very much is coming for a visit!
Elu Ancalime
03-07-2006, 01:33 PM
Kuru was wrong!? Rofl, if I may.
++Gil-Galad
With the defeat of their leader, the Tribe of the Noldor will fall into ruin. (yay)
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Anguirel
03-07-2006, 01:57 PM
My line of attack is growing tedious.
++KHAMUL
How can we take seriously a supervillain apparently named after a humped, desert-dwelling herbivore?
In other news, Anguirel and his stalwart television crew find Murder on the Mordorient Express... coming soon
Gil-Galad
03-07-2006, 06:10 PM
to save myself, i must
++KHAMUL
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