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Nogrod
03-18-2009, 04:49 PM
Everyone has EITHER a role OR some kind of posting requirement. Most have both, but not everyone does. Some people's role dictates how they behave, while others have....well, let's just say cracked out instructions. The point of the game was that no one was just a standard role or an ordo who could float through the game.Okay. Thanks.

Oh my. These situations suck always. Whether to speak openly or to tactically try to shut up and hope the baddies don't connect the dots?

What Sally just said cleared a few things but her announcement also gave us some clear guidelines to what some people are not and I do not believe all the Ducks here are that stupid they shouldn't read the following from her words. Also in this game I think one needs to talk as the conventional tactics might be so wrong anyway. And I'm a bit tired with all this nonsense anyway.

So let's talk this out.

If everyone has something (role and/or a requirement) so as not to make any plain ordos in this game it means that:

- most people have both a role and a requirement to do something
- those that have no role must have a requirement of sorts
- there are people with only a role but not a requirement

Rikae's reactions I can now find the most curious. She probably has a role and - as someone intelligent as she is and if being gifted - she would not have reacted that way. I thought already before Sally's revelation that her vote for me was a wolvish reaction/retaliation (especially as she is able to come back later and talk herself out of it if necessary whereas I need to go to sleep for toDay in an instant - so the unnecessarily early vote was very convenient indeed - and the way she had to add the framing of the "age-old feud" between us which I think is more than a bit overexaggerating it), but this kind of makes me more positive of it.

The ranger(s) should now think carefully as Sally's reveal might bear consequences.

Legate of Amon Lanc
03-18-2009, 04:58 PM
All right. I don't like Kath, but that's just the typical way she always unnerves me.
Fea may be normal, looks normal, more or less, this far not any bad, really.
Brinniel I am not sure of, there was something sinister in there.
wilwarin538 looks more or less sensible, as well as Shastanis Althreduin and to an extent, Durelin. Isabellkya too.
Nogrod is just Nogrod. Mith looked normal, too. Lommy as well, to the point that it makes me wonder a bit.

Mirandir is one of the crazies posting four pages about nothing, eh?
Nerwen is the craziest person possible, I won't be surprised if that was a Duck.
Rikae was weird. Mac was weird. Lari is somebody. Nienna as well. Gwathagor. Nilp. I like the last one. Where is he? Is he around? Had he posted? I didn't notice.

Mithalwen
03-18-2009, 04:58 PM
Well it is time I went and I hope to be more use later in the game - this really did catch me on the hop. I will resist the temptation to vote Kath (unfinished wereduck business), Nogrod (old times sake) or Fea (mercy killing - whatever she is having to do she is hating it.

So with the exemptions given earlier and the Gwath veto...

++Lariren Shadow

Far to chatty in a slightly manic way - huge post count .... unnerving. Nothin better to go on for now.

Kath
03-18-2009, 05:01 PM
Alright, I'm going to go with:

++BRINN

Because that's a more useful if less fun vote than phantom. I don't know whether she might have RL reasons for having posted little other than bater recently but I can't hang around to see if she reappears with more later.

Nogrod
03-18-2009, 05:03 PM
I'm torn apart just as I would have to vote.

I suspect Rikae quite a bit but am not sure if it is enough to lynch someone who does not speak nonsense all the time.

I still suspect Dury and am in confusion how to look at her more consiliatory tone of late; whether it speaks good or evil of her.

I would be more than happy to lynch the phantom as Kath proposed but sadly that would not help us even a tiny little bit.

I am drawn to vote for one of our nonsensers as well. If we have a game of talking and suspecting we should all play it. That would include at least Lari, Mira and Brinn. From those belonging to the same group I'd refrain from voting for Mith (it looks like she is not in this game wholeheartedly), Gwath (like Sally said; too many speedy lynches to be fair to him) and Nienna (first game benefit of doubt).

EDIT: x'd from my last one

Mithalwen
03-18-2009, 05:07 PM
Now I am in I will give it as much attention as I can... but my heart.... is with the Phantom and lynching him will hurt me more than him :rolleyes:

Brinniel
03-18-2009, 05:38 PM
Garr, I got a vote because I was in class all day? I'm here now, though I can't promise I'll post too much. Keep in mind that Tuesday-Thursday, I'm gone for at least eight hours of the day, not to mention I've had a really frustrating week which has put me in a sour/stressed out mood. I only got three hours of sleep last night...

Nogrod
03-18-2009, 05:48 PM
but my heart.... is with the Phantom and lynching him will hurt me more than him :rolleyes:What's happened to you lately? Have you consulted a doctor? :)


Of those "banterers only" I could vote for, I can only say the following right now.

Mirandir seems to have been the "lynch her!" - person. Calling a lynch for anything and all the time - jokingly of course - but still that seems to have been her modus operandi. I do not think she is a good-willed person but probably a cobbler more than a wereduck/-goose whatever.

Lari has made some interesting things after that banter-phase, like this speculation of a "good-cobbler" which Mac questioned for a reason. I think her explanation of that as a goodie who has more than one vote looks quite terribly fabricated (there was that kind of role earlier but that was not a cobbler) - and in a way something she possibly felt she had to come up with when she thought she was in trouble being questioned. That is no cobbler. Cobbler is something and wants to do the other thing.

The best possibility of a good cobbler I could come up with is one who wants to look foul but to make the case of the goodies behind that foul-mask (and that would require some extraordinary game-mechanics where the trust of the wolves could pay off to the good-cobbler and the village - maybe I'll include one in my next game from this idea?).

But her later idea about her, Nienna and Mira being together with a task from Day2 on looks even more weird. Like she wanted to press the indistinguishability of the three from each other. A wolf would love to make that impression: I am something these two are as well... and we're indistinguishable anyway we three? So you can't choose...

Brinn I really don't know what to say about her. She hasn't basically made any sense and she is one who should be able to do that. *Huge disappointment* I know she's the master-deceiver and manages to look innocent everytime - but she has also been unduly lynched for that a many times. And to get personal: she has been responsible of killing me in quite a many games lately far too early. *bad girl!* (takes back a bit after seeing her last post)

Need to think a minute about this all.

Where are you guys? There are gazillions of people in the invisible mode online but only a few post here so many of you must be around!

Many people have a role eg. they won't post as not to be suspected. Just check who could post and who is not doing it and make your calculations from that toMorrow. (meaning Mith is innocent as well as Brinn - possibly - and what about Legate, Lommy... bad! Unless they come up with a huge post in the near future explaining their silence right now with the fact that they are doing great tasks taking all their attention for hours). :)

Thinlómien
03-18-2009, 05:52 PM
and what about Legate, Lommy... bad! Unless they come up with a huge post in the near future explaining their silence right now with the fact that they are doing great tasks taking all their attention for hours).Does talking to each other on MSN count? ;):p:Merisu:

Brinniel
03-18-2009, 05:53 PM
Okay, due to this behaviour modification, we really need to watch how we vote. That means we shouldn't vote for someone because they're too chatty, don't post enough, act annoying, etc. You never know...it could be a modification assignment. Instead, we should suspect/lynch based on who and what reasons players suspect one another. Going in that direction is more likely going to catch us a were-duck rather than just examining posting style, lack of serious participation, etc. In fact, I think it may be smart to carefully look at those who do choose to vote for someone based only on behaviour.

I'm glad Sally rejected a possible Gwath since I don't think it'd be fair for him to be lynched toDay after being wrongfully lynched on Day 1 last game. I won't vote Nogrod toDay either since I promised not to and too long have I been responsible for his death.

Nienna
03-18-2009, 05:53 PM
Garr, I got a vote because I was in class all day? I'm here now, though I can't promise I'll post too much. Keep in mind that Tuesday-Thursday, I'm gone for at least eight hours of the day, not to mention I've had a really frustrating week which has put me in a sour/stressed out mood. I only got three hours of sleep last night...

*hugs*

and just fyi i student teach all day so i apologize for the large gaps in my posting and that also means that i must accomplish sleep.

So far it seems like a lot of people are accusing a lot of other people based on very little considering there has only been one day's worth of posting. After toNight we should know much more or even after voting toDay. I'm going to read back through and see if i can come up with anything concrete and if not i'll probably be voting based on gut feelings.

X-ed with everyone since the Brinn quote

Thinlómien
03-18-2009, 05:59 PM
Okay, due to this behaviour modification, we really need to watch how we vote. That means we shouldn't vote for someone because they're too chatty, don't post enough, act annoying, etc. You never know...it could be a modification assignment. Instead, we should suspect/lynch based on who and what reasons players suspect one another. Going in that direction is more likely going to catch us a were-duck rather than just examining posting style, lack of serious participation, etc. In fact, I think it may be smart to carefully look at those who do choose to vote for someone based only on behaviour.Hear! Hear! That was really sensible. :)

Nogrod
03-18-2009, 06:00 PM
Does talking to each other on MSN count?I don't want to get a tough with this as Mith did the last time around but there is actually something that kind of is bad for the game there.

Not that people shouldn't socialise at all when a game is underway but when people interact privately while a game is on there is a feeling of... Well, hard to say.

I know we have lived under a same roof during weekends while a game has been on but that's a bit different. Or then I'm just an oldie not seeing the exact similarity.

Whatever. I have no time for this discussion anyway as I need to wake up quite early and I need to decide on my vote like now (2AM here).

So just to make a mild protest. :rolleyes:

Thinlómien
03-18-2009, 06:11 PM
But daddy dear, I swear the game has not and will not be mentioned. ;)

I now know what's Nog's posting requirement - he's the complainer and has to complain about everything! :D

To be blunt, my problem is also that I can't get a grip of this game so I'm doing other stuff than trying to get a grip - talking with people on MSN, hanging around in Facebook etc. Pitiful, I know. I'll try to come up with something productive before I go to sleep. :)

Durelin
03-18-2009, 06:19 PM
So, about those who have been voted so far...

Nogrod bothers me but I do not think he is of evil sorts.

Lari seems like a fine choice, really. I'd like to give her a chance to do some more posting toDay, though. So far she's been pretty much all banter, and one thing in one of her few substantial posts bothered me:

Clearly we are a trio of were-librarians...I feel an idea for a WW game coming on...

Or we were all hanously bored at work so we kept going on this. Or two of us where hanously bored, goaded on by the third and one of us actually has to post banter and nothing else. You don't know. Maybe all of us have to post only banter and nothing serious.

Did you really feel the need to defend yourself from my nonsensical summary? That's pretty odd.

Brinniel so far has been on the edge of everything, and I'm not sure what to think of her. I see she's around now, though, and really has some good things to say. Except that I have no idea how we're ever to vote for someone except based on their behavior...you can base it purely on who votes for whom but is that necessarily separate of their behavior... An easy vote at the time...

So Gwath. I wish he was...um...around, but...Mac's vote really bothers me. Okay, 'random' Day 1 vote (though people always claim it's never random - watch me!), but...

There are some people for who I could justify a vote for, but I don't feel extremely comfortable with either. I think I'll vote for someone who only bantered so far. It's Nienna's first game and Miri told us she will post something worthwhile later, so they're off the hook. Unless I'm forgetting someone, this leaves Brinn and Gwath.

Just a funny way of going about it. Just say it's random, or try a little harder to rationalize it. :p And you know, Fea and Nilp's contribution to the game has been about the same as Gwath's and Brinniel's, Fea just slightly higher in post count, so I'm not sure why they were not included in your options.

Nogrod
03-18-2009, 06:19 PM
Instead, we should suspect/lynch based on who and what reasons players suspect one another.
Hear! Hear! That was really sensible.Unless you have an obligation to protect someone and/or attack someone else because of what your "role" * is...

I don't like the way too many of you look like trying to fool others or act like total ignorants... Sally wished to make this insane, and I think there are people around who don't know whether the alliances / feuds you have been ordered to make are clear (eg. you don't know whether people you should defend or like/dislike LotR-wise are good or not in-gamewise, and vice versa).

Why are you guys hiding? You have a role? It looks like most of us have. Don't hide behind it. If you all act like a "ducking away" :) gifted there will be no game but just a lottery! We all have secrets so let's play with this rare chance of gaming full-steam!

You're not that important, anyone of you alone, when we all have some roles to fill!

*Role in this sense of whether you're Aragorn, Gandalf, Hama, Frodo... whatever; and who is your LotR friend or enemy.

Legate of Amon Lanc
03-18-2009, 06:21 PM
Okay, due to this behaviour modification, we really need to watch how we vote. That means we shouldn't vote for someone because they're too chatty, don't post enough, act annoying, etc. You never know...it could be a modification assignment. Instead, we should suspect/lynch based on who and what reasons players suspect one another. Going in that direction is more likely going to catch us a were-duck rather than just examining posting style, lack of serious participation, etc. In fact, I think it may be smart to carefully look at those who do choose to vote for someone based only on behaviour.
Perfectly, completely agreed. Makes me think good of ye.

and what about Legate, Lommy... bad! Unless they come up with a huge post in the near future explaining their silence right now with the fact that they are doing great tasks taking all their attention for hours). :)
I am sorry, sir. Is that sufficient?

I don't want to get a tough with this as Mith did the last time around but there is actually something that kind of is bad for the game there.

Not that people shouldn't socialise at all when a game is underway but when people interact privately while a game is on there is a feeling of... Well, hard to say.
But it does not concern the game at all. Besides, I never talk about WW outside the game (except when I am safely dead). (/end of out-game note)

Legate of Amon Lanc
03-18-2009, 06:25 PM
*Role in this sense of whether you're Aragorn, Gandalf, Hama, Frodo... whatever; and who is your LotR friend or enemy.
And where did you get the idea people are Aragorn, Gandalf, Háma or Frodo?

Thinlómien
03-18-2009, 06:25 PM
Unless you have an obligation to protect someone and/or attack someone else because of what your "role" * is...I find that slightly unlikely... it would be quite unfair... Unless there were two people who were told to get each other lynched, but I think that should be spotted easily enough.

edit: xed with Legate... and yeah, I'm not Háma or Frodo either

Durelin
03-18-2009, 06:28 PM
Instead, we should suspect/lynch based on who and what reasons players suspect one another.

(Good sentence to point out, I steal the quote from Nog) But is that really removed from their 'behavior', whatever our definition?

Nogrod, your last post confuses me greatly. Are you specifically addressing...Brinn and Lommy +...?

And LotR roles? I understand this is the Downs and all, but I'm not getting you.

But I don't care if I get an explanation and promise I won't go voting you for being confusing or anything. ;) I don't want to keep you here when it's so late.

(Edit: Crossed with Legate and Lommy. Ah, they don't get him either...)

Legate of Amon Lanc
03-18-2009, 06:32 PM
What are the votes this far anyway?

Brinniel
03-18-2009, 06:33 PM
I don't want to get a tough with this as Mith did the last time around but there is actually something that kind of is bad for the game there.

Not that people shouldn't socialise at all when a game is underway but when people interact privately while a game is on there is a feeling of... Well, hard to say.
Since there are several players in this game who know one another quite well, private interactions are a bit unavoidable. So long as it doesn't affect the game or its outcome in any way, I see no problem with members part of the same game IMing each other.

Durelin
03-18-2009, 06:33 PM
Lommy and Legate, you are so cute right now, btw. :p

Nogrod
03-18-2009, 06:34 PM
I am sorry, sir. Is that sufficient?No it is not. I never said it was. How so touchy about a side-sentence? :rolleyes:

I never talk about WW outside the gameI do actually believe you, but that's not so simple... and really that was a pointing out of a principle, not a point made against any particular people this game.

And where did you get the idea people are Aragorn, Gandalf, Háma or Frodo?Well I am a person from the LotR in this game and I have my loyalties - notwithstanding who I think they are ingamewise.

it would be quite unfair...You really thought this would be a fair game for the player? Maybe you have a baddie role that is clear-cut and easy with no extra-requirements, but I really have to try to balance what I say between the requirements I have (not to be modfired for not obeying) and what I think myself.

Durelin
03-18-2009, 06:37 PM
The Votes:

234 Rikae >> Nogrod (1)
237 Macalaure >> Gwathagor (1)
253 Mithalwen >> Lariren (1)
254 Kath >> Brinniel (1)

Thinlómien
03-18-2009, 06:39 PM
Lommy and Legate, you are so cute right now, btw. :pAwww thanks. :D

*is freaked out by Noggie and his role* (Hmmm... maybe he's Lobelia and has to complain about everything like I suggested... ;))

I feel like I could vote Lari. It's the vote I'd probably feel the most comfortable with. (Although, that does not guarantee it's a good vote.)


edit: xed with Durie

Legate of Amon Lanc
03-18-2009, 06:39 PM
No it is not. I never said it was. How so touchy about a side-sentence? :rolleyes:
Hey, nay :) It was not touchy. I could have put a smiley there. It was a question, rather jesting actually.

Well I am a person from the LotR in this game and I have my loyalties - notwithstanding who I think they are ingamewise.
Great, as Phantom (in P&A, the volume where Alien's mother appears for the first time) would say, now that just raises forther questions...

Legate of Amon Lanc
03-18-2009, 06:41 PM
Oh, and thank you, Dury :) (For the votes also ;) )

Not very much, it seems.

Nilpaurion Felagund
03-18-2009, 06:43 PM
You sicken me all.

A plague on all your posts.

++Village

++Sally and Mnemo

++the phantom

I'll be here tomorrow, though now I wish I weren't.

Post-traumatic possums: My mum is, of course, exempted from the sickening and the plague, and, oh yeah, the vote:

--Mithalwen (*hugs*)

Brinniel
03-18-2009, 06:47 PM
Unless you have an obligation to protect someone and/or attack someone else because of what your "role" * is...
A role is a role and not the same as behaviour modification. Suspicions and votes can give us clues to roles as people will make suspicions based on what their own role is. And while someone's behaviour may be entirely screwed up, I can't imagine the modification alone would ultimately affect their vote. Though I could be wrong...this is Sally's game after all...

Mirandir
03-18-2009, 06:47 PM
SO. I was making a vote count, but then Durie beat me to it. Grr. Commence work on analysis...NOW.

Durelin
03-18-2009, 06:48 PM
Wow. Hi Nilp.

--Mithalwen

Does that count as one of his two retractions for the game? :p

(Edit: Crossed with a perhaps not quite as grumpy as Nilp but still grumpy Mira. Oh, and Brinn, too.)

Gwathagor
03-18-2009, 06:52 PM
I am now prepared to be a little more involved.

Gwathagor
03-18-2009, 06:53 PM
Lynch Gwath toDay and I'll modfire the lot of you.

Ha ha. What now, village? :smokin:

Nilpaurion Felagund
03-18-2009, 06:56 PM
I'll be here tomorrow, though now I wish I weren't.

LYNCH ME.

Wow. Hi Nilp.

--Mithalwen

Does that count as one of his two retractions for the game? :p Hi Dury . . . Dure . . . Dűrin?

Yes.

Lariren Shadow
03-18-2009, 06:56 PM
Ha ha. What now, village? :smokin:

Lynch you toMorrow?:Merisu:

Brinniel
03-18-2009, 07:01 PM
LYNCH ME.
Ha. My guess is that Nilp isn't allowed to self-vote. :p

Lariren Shadow
03-18-2009, 07:03 PM
I don't really have a lot of time so here is just a plain list:
Guilty:
Shasta
Wilwa
Dury
Izzy
Nerwen
Rikae
Lommy
Kath
Nienna

Not Guilty:
Fea
Brinn
Mira
Nog
Mith
Legate
Gwath
Bubbles
Nilp

Therefore I am voting

++Durelin

Nogrod
03-18-2009, 07:04 PM
Dury. Your nice words make me doubt this decision, but as I know you're an intelligent person, I can also see your way of talking very nicely to me after I suspected you from a slip in the first place - and not giving that suspicion up - could have produced just that careful "being nice"-thing.

And I really like to play with you. But this kind of settled it for me from choosing between you, Rikae and the "nonsensers", as I think I may have a catch here. (Remember the bad ones are most of the times those who feel good in daylight)
So, about those who have been voted so far...How nice a choice! Only four votes have been given and you are rushing to make us think only those who have been voted should be concentrated on? Or if you think that is too far-fetched, then let's say you were confident enough to see someone of those four to go as it meant nothing bad to your fellows - and you have fellows. Otherwise you would have been a bit more open-minded about it.

I mean only four votes up to now. Why encourage thinking mainly of them (yeah, you mentioned a few others in the end of the post to be sure but they were not like "let's consider these")? And what bothers me is that you have nothing particular to say about any of these four first votes - so you just want to concentrate our thinking on these people - wishing to see those people discussed while you yourself can afterwards say you had no damning points on them if one of them gets lynched and is proved to be an innocent?

++ Durelin

Unless you have an obligation to protect someone and/or attack someone else because of what your "role" * is...
A role is a role and not the same as behaviour modification. Suspicions and votes can give us clues to roles as people will make suspicions based on what their own role is. And while someone's behaviour may be entirely screwed up, I can't imagine the modification alone would ultimately affect their vote. Though I could be wrong...this is Sally's game after all...Now you ignore the quotation marks there and the asterisk which gives the explanation of it - which point to the difference between a role in a game (ordo, wolf, seer, ranger...) and a "role" in this game where we are fugitives from the LotR world (eg. Aragorn, Frodo, Saruman... whatever you are) - just read the prologue... I'm not sure if you're a cobbler and did that on purpose or not but if not, please read the posts first... :)

EDIT: x'd from the beginning of the page...

EDIT2: "the asterisk which gives the explanation of it" - the asterisk in itself doesn't explain anything of course - but in the post Brinn is quoting there was a relative asterisk in the end of the post making the explanation I made here...

Isabellkya
03-18-2009, 07:06 PM
I really don't understand what all this fuss in relation to Nog is about. He has some quite sensible points, and for the most part I think I've understood what he is saying. Though, it seems where any misinterpretation has come in - has been in possible ambiguous statements in relation to roles and what have you.

I think I get why he used LoTR as the "roles". Instead of just saying roles over again, and possibly getting it confused with assignments/obligations/posting requirements... etc. Then again, now he says he is a LoTR character? Well, it could be true... why not? We know we have wereducks... but what are the "names" of the other roles? Would they just be Seer, Ranger, Cobbler.. etc?


Meh. I've got to get back to peeling potatoes and eggs now.


X'd with Brinn, Lari and Nog.

Nilpaurion Felagund
03-18-2009, 07:07 PM
Ha. My guess is that Nilp isn't allowed to self-vote. :pThat's child's play. I'd rather have you lynch me. ;)

Isabellkya
03-18-2009, 07:09 PM
Ah. I see now. Makes sense.

Brinniel
03-18-2009, 07:11 PM
"role" in this game where we are fugitives from the LotR world (eg. Aragorn, Frodo, Saruman... whatever you are)
Oh. I thought you meant the characters represented gifted, were-duck, cobbler roles, etc.

Okay, shutting up for the next 50 minutes. I'm watching Lost. :)

Gwathagor
03-18-2009, 07:14 PM
As far as I can tell, Nogrod seems to be his usual self.

Feanor of the Peredhil
03-18-2009, 07:20 PM
So the problem with Rikae is that she lied - and I can't see a reason a good gifted should have felt a need to make such a lie at that point in the game. Or then Sally has failed to give her the requirements she gave everyone else.

She may be required to deny having special powers, based on past history of claiming every known (and fake) role available.

Or, she might just not have orders about behavior. Like she said.

I honestly don't think any of the special orders are particularly linked. For instance, I think Nienna is required to devote a lot of her time to Shakespeare. And I think that the phantom is required to reference things said by an unknown female at any opportune moment. And I know that I should stop talking now.

Durelin
03-18-2009, 07:27 PM
Nog, I was being nice to you because last night I was up till almost 3 am posting on this game and I know I did not like it. :p

Well hi, Lari.

The Votes:

234 Rikae >> Nogrod (1)
237 Macalaure >> Gwathagor (1)
253 Mithalwen >> Lariren (1)
254 Kath >> Brinniel (1)
288 Lariren >> Durelin (1)
289 Nogrod >> Durelin (2)

Durelin
03-18-2009, 07:39 PM
I mean only four votes up to now. Why encourage thinking mainly of them (yeah, you mentioned a few others in the end of the post to be sure but they were not like "let's consider these")? And what bothers me is that you have nothing particular to say about any of these four first votes - so you just want to concentrate our thinking on these people - wishing to see those people discussed while you yourself can afterwards say you had no damning points on them if one of them gets lynched and is proved to be an innocent?

It's a way of looking at a few people out of a village of 18. In one post. And I did say particular things about them, though no, not 3 pages worth or anything.

I'm trying to be a better player here than my usual self so I'm trying the analysis thing. I guess it just doesn't suit me.

As far as I can tell, Nogrod seems to be his usual self.

Yeah, pretty much. A bit more belligerent perhaps. But I think he's usually nicer as a wolf anyway.

So yeah, definitely moving on from Nogrod...just need to find the time.

Thinlómien
03-18-2009, 07:40 PM
Aiee I should vote soon, it's dreadfully late here. :rolleyes::D

Legate of Amon Lanc
03-18-2009, 07:42 PM
Nog, I was being nice to you because last night I was up till almost 3 am posting on this game and I know I did not like it. :p

Now who is here till 3 AM... :eek:

All right, but I should just vote and go. Great. Hmm...

Thinlómien
03-18-2009, 07:42 PM
Okay

++Lariren

I considered voting her before and she just does not seem to innocent to me. Her bantery posts don't look too good. She should know better.

I'm surprised if she's a wolf though. :rolleyes: Oh well, it's Day1...

edit: xed with Legate who should shut up because it's almost 4am here... :p

Legate of Amon Lanc
03-18-2009, 07:45 PM
I don't consider her very guilty. Not even particularly suspicious. In fact, I sort of hope that she won't get lynched.

++Durelin

But let's call that just an experiment.

wilwarin538
03-18-2009, 07:51 PM
I'm here and reading...

Gwathagor
03-18-2009, 07:53 PM
Garr, I got a vote because I was in class all day? I'm here now, though I can't promise I'll post too much. Keep in mind that Tuesday-Thursday, I'm gone for at least eight hours of the day, not to mention I've had a really frustrating week which has put me in a sour/stressed out mood. I only got three hours of sleep last night...

Ah, that would explain the incredibly terse posts. ;)

Gwathagor
03-18-2009, 07:54 PM
Suspicious
Rikae
Nogrod
Sally!

Sort of Suspicious
Legate
Durelin

Un-Suspicious
Nerwen
Shasta
Thinlomien

Innocent
Fea
Brinniel

If I HAD to guess, I'd say that Nogrod might be a cobbler, although he has been making sense. Legate's vote for Durelin looks pretty bad to me, but I don't think that a clever wolf would do anything quite that obvious. If I haven't mentioned anyone, it's because I really don't know.

Oh yikes, I have to run to a theatre meeting. I don't know if I'll make it back before DL, so here's my vote:

++Legate

Durelin
03-18-2009, 07:55 PM
I sort of hope that she won't get lynched.

I'd say I am offended except that I only sort of hope so, too. This game is distracting me a bit too much from job applications and papers...

Nienna
03-18-2009, 08:00 PM
I don't consider her very guilty. Not even particularly suspicious. In fact, I sort of hope that she won't get lynched.

++Durelin

But let's call that just an experiment.

I'm not sure how i feel about someone voting for someone else as an experiment... that just bothers me... I'll wait before voting but right now I'm leaning toward Legate.

Brinniel
03-18-2009, 08:06 PM
I don't like either Lommy or Legate's votes. Why vote for someone if you don't think they're the were-duck?

Thinlómien
03-18-2009, 08:07 PM
I smell a consensus that precedes a bandwagon... :p

Good night and Night!

edit: xed with Brinn

Thinlómien
03-18-2009, 08:08 PM
Maybe if you have no idea who is... I suspect Lari more than most.

Brinniel
03-18-2009, 08:10 PM
Ah, that would explain the incredibly terse posts.
Me, terse? Nah. :Merisu:

Brinniel
03-18-2009, 08:13 PM
Okay, I don't have any strong vote candidates in mind so I shall look back at earlier posts. Hopefully I'll make it by deadline; my internet is being incredibly slow for no reason.

Isabellkya
03-18-2009, 08:14 PM
Why would you vote for someone whom you didn't think was guilty, and didn't want them to be lynched?

What kind of experiment are you doing?

234 Rikae >> Nogrod (1)
237 Macalaure >> Gwathagor (1)
253 Mithalwen >> Lariren (1)
254 Kath >> Brinniel (1)
288 Lariren >> Durelin (1)
289 Nogrod >> Durelin (2)
300 Lommy >> Lari (2)
301 Legate >> Durelin (3)
304 Gwath >> Legate (1) (does it count if it isn't bolded?)

X'd with Brinn x2.

Nerwen
03-18-2009, 08:14 PM
Hello, everybody!!:):)

Sally, do I still have a vote?

EDIT: x'd since Lommy.

Mirandir
03-18-2009, 08:15 PM
Okay

++Lariren

I considered voting her before and she just does not seem to innocent to me. Her bantery posts don't look too good. She should know better.

So you're voting for her because she bantered for the first three pages just like Nienna, phantom, sally, and I all did. That makes sense. You claim she should know better but so should everyone else. That seems highly suspicious in my opinion.

That analysis is coming shortly. I got dragged away to watch my friends' air band play. :rolleyes:

Mirandir
03-18-2009, 08:18 PM
Fea - Has been busy with school. Boo. Need to hear more from her.

Brinn - Needs to get more sleep. Also needs to post more. But what she has said doesn't look too suspicious.

wilwa - No idea.

Shasta - Makes references that confuse me. Will keep an eye on him.

Durie - Stole my vote count idea. Should lynch him just for that. Just kidding. Stats are good.

Nog - If we were playing the "whoever analyzes most is clearly evil" game, Nog would win. Otherwise his posts look solid and not too suspicious.

Izzy - Need to hear more from.

Nerwen - Need to hear more from to get a read.

Rikae - Bubbles. Heh heh...Beyond that, no idea.

Mith - Need to hear more from.

Kath - Apparently worried about a Day 1 lynch for Gwath. Suspicious.

Lari - Apparently now looks like a good lynch choice for no good reason as far as I can tell. Will keep an eye on her.

Mac - No read on him so far. Need to hear more.

Nienna - Newbie. Gets Day 1 protection from me at least.

Gwath - Apparently can't be lynched toDay at risk of everyone being modfired. :eek:

Lommie - Seems very very confused and frustrated...but is that because she actually is or because she's been told to act that way. Also voted Lari for banter. Suspicious.

Legate - Needs to post more.

Nilp - Suicidal. Suspicious.

Sorry that took so incredibly long for such a short post. I feel like if I make a more detailed post I'm going to miss deadline and as we learned last game, that is a very bad life choice. If anyone wants elaboration, I'll do my best to give it. :)

Mirandir
03-18-2009, 08:27 PM
So according to my analysis, Lommie, Kath, and Nilp are suspicious. I'm not a fan of lynching the suicidal; it tends to give them what they want. I don't have enough reason to lynch Kath just quite yet, but I'm going to keep an eye on her. So based on that logic:

++Lommie

Isabellkya
03-18-2009, 08:27 PM
++Lari

I don't see what is supposedly wrong with Durelin, and I don't like how Legate voted for her. Not wanting her to get lynched, but putting her in the lead.
I don't think voting for Legate would do much good; because it would just be a bandwagon-esque vote.
Meh. Call it what it is I suppose.


X'd with Mira x3.

Durelin
03-18-2009, 08:28 PM
So you're voting for her because she bantered for the first three pages just like Nienna, phantom, sally, and I all did.

But...phantom and Sally aren't playing in this game.

I don't like either Lommy or Legate's votes. Why vote for someone if you don't think they're the were-duck?

This is a constant frustration for me. If you think someone is guilty, okay, vote for them. But don't go saying "I think they're guilty somehow but I don't think there a were...whatever." At least have a backbone if nothing else.

I smell a consensus that precedes a bandwagon...

Of course the consensus thing bothers me, too. But no one's done the old "well who are you voting for" thing yet so it hasn't quite gone that far.

I've really lost my steam here.

And ohhhh yeeaaaah the deadline is in like...35 mins-ish? This should be interesting.

(Edit: Crossed with Mira and Izzy)

Feanor of the Peredhil
03-18-2009, 08:28 PM
All y'all are bandwagoning. I don't like this at all.

Mirandir
03-18-2009, 08:32 PM
Rikae -> Nog
Mac -> Gwath
Mith -> Lari
Kath -> Brinn
Lari -> Durie
Nog -> Durie
Lommy -> Lari
Legate ->Durie
Gwath -> Legate (not bolded)
Mira -> Lommy
Izzy -> Lari


Lari and Durie- 3, Nog, Gwath, Brinn, Legate, Lommy - 1

Durelin
03-18-2009, 08:33 PM
All y'all are bandwagoning. I don't like this at all.

I still don't understand what bandwagoning really is vs. someone just getting more than one vote. There needs to be a discussion about that sometime. But no, not here, not now...

(Edit: Oh lord 9 pages...)

Mirandir
03-18-2009, 08:36 PM
Of course the consensus thing bothers me, too. But no one's done the old "well who are you voting for" thing yet so it hasn't quite gone that far.

Hence "precedes," my dear. Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean that it won't.

wilwarin538
03-18-2009, 08:36 PM
Uh, I'm at a loss, I really wish Day 1 hadn't been toDay, probably one of the worst days for me. :( I honestly tried to read everything but it's quite late for me here and I've just worked all day and have a giant test tomorrow that I'm quite worried for. So I can promise that, if I'm still living, that next Day I will be able to participate far more and my vote will be much more thought out.

I'm gonna go back and use another 10 minutes to atleast re-read this last page, then I'll come back and vote.

x'posted, with a few

Brinniel
03-18-2009, 08:37 PM
Nilp - Suicidal. Suspicious.
Don't mind Nilp. He's always suicidal. That why we don't let sharp objects near him.

Isabellkya
03-18-2009, 08:39 PM
I still don't understand what bandwagoning really is vs. someone just getting more than one vote. There needs to be a discussion about that sometime. But no, not here, not now...



Wiki says.. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect)

The other Wiki says... (http://randomness.talonz.com/werewiki/index.php/Bandwagon)


Sorry. Couldn't resist. Now my name can be scratched off the list of linkers. :)


X'd with Brin.

Feanor of the Peredhil
03-18-2009, 08:39 PM
++Brinn

Self preservation. On a meta-level. And now...

By a sleep to say we end the heartache...

One can hope...

Nienna
03-18-2009, 08:44 PM
++ Legate

His vote as an experiment bothered me... experiments are controlled environments where only one variable has been changed... this is nowhere near being a controlled environment. Sorry i just went all psych major... Now as long as no one confuses correlation and causation we should be fine.

the phantom
03-18-2009, 08:45 PM
I only got three hours of sleep last night...
That's what she said.

wilwarin538
03-18-2009, 08:48 PM
Hmm, k, trying to read and nothing is going into my brain :rolleyes:. So I will vote now. I don't want to add any more names into the mix so here are the votes so far:

Lari and Durie- 3, Brinn and Legate - 2, Nog, Gwath, Lommy - 1

So, for the most part I'm not overly suspicious of any of them, most of them actually I don't really have a read on at all, but I need to vote so here it goes, hopefully it all works out:

++Legate

I'm being honest when I say that this vote is not as founded on any suspicion as I would like.

Good luck everyone, hopefully I'll be back to this insanity toMorrow.

Durelin
03-18-2009, 08:49 PM
The suspects...

Mac...I didn't like his behavior at all toDay or his vote. His straw-clutching (lol) seemed more sinister than Nog's.

Lommy just seems really off. Her vote was an easy one, and her comment about not really thinking Lari is a wolf anyway but "oh, it's just Day 1"...

Nienna for jumping on Legate's thing, as much as it is pretty...annoying.

Legate for the vengeful part of me.

Lari for the part of me that wants to survive, as well as does not like the random vote.

Little late for this. Ah well. Yeah, I need to vote...

(X'd with Nienna's vote on)

Mirandir
03-18-2009, 08:50 PM
Rikae -> Nog
Mac -> Gwath
Mith -> Lari
Kath -> Brinn
Lari -> Durie
Nog -> Durie
Lommy -> Lari
Legate ->Durie
Gwath -> Legate (not bolded)
Mira -> Lommy
Izzy -> Lari
Fea -> Brinn
Nienna -> Legate
wilwa -> Legate

Legate, Lari and Durie - 3
Brinn -2
Nog, Gwath, and Lommy - 1

Brinniel
03-18-2009, 08:50 PM
Suspects:

Legate: For his vote. Why vote someone you don't want to see lynched? It's rather absurd, and I don't like it at all.

Lommy: On one hand, she agreed with me when I said we should vote based only on behaviour. Yet she then votes Lari for banter posts. Very contradicting.

Kath: For that comment about focusing on chatterers, which is a horrible idea due to the behaviour modification and that chatting does not necessarily mean guilt. Also, I didn't like her reasons for voting me.

I didn't like Mith's reasoning behind her suspicions, but I'm not terribly concerned about her.

So, I'll be voting for one of the first three.

Or the phantom. I'd love to see the phantom get lynched for once. Plus his lynching means free cookies. :p

Brinniel
03-18-2009, 08:56 PM
++Legate

Of the three that are tied, I find him most suspicious. I'd rather see him go than Lari or Durelin.

Nerwen
03-18-2009, 08:57 PM
2-4-6-8
Who do we appreciate?
L-E-G-A-T-E
Legate! Legate!

For making the game so much more interesting... I was kind of thinking of voting Durie because of her possible wolf-slip... only now I don't think I can... Oooo, what an exciting dilemma!:D:D:D

EDIT: X'd with Brinn

Mirandir
03-18-2009, 08:57 PM
Rikae -> Nog
Mac -> Gwath
Mith -> Lari
Kath -> Brinn
Lari -> Durie
Nog -> Durie
Lommy -> Lari
Legate ->Durie
Gwath -> Legate (not bolded)
Mira -> Lommy
Izzy -> Lari
Fea -> Brinn
Nienna -> Legate
wilwa -> Legate
Brinn -> Legate

Legate - 4
Lari and Durie - 3
Brinn -2
Nog, Gwath, and Lommy - 1

Still to vote: Shasta, Durelin, Nogrod, Nerwen, and Nilp

Durelin
03-18-2009, 08:58 PM
Ehhh...

++Legate

Gwathagor
03-18-2009, 08:58 PM
Just in case it makes a difference:

++ LEGATE

(bolded)

Isabellkya
03-18-2009, 08:59 PM
Nog voted awhile ago. xD

Haha @ Nerwen. What are your cheerleading colors?

Gwathagor
03-18-2009, 08:59 PM
Ehhh...

++Legate

You feel very strongly about that vote, I can tell.

Mirandir
03-18-2009, 09:00 PM
Rikae -> Nog
Mac -> Gwath
Mith -> Lari
Kath -> Brinn
Lari -> Durie
Nog -> Durie
Lommy -> Lari
Legate ->Durie
Gwath -> Legate
Mira -> Lommy
Izzy -> Lari
Fea -> Brinn
Nienna -> Legate
wilwa -> Legate
Brinn -> Legate
Durie -> Legate

Legate - 5
Lari and Durie - 3
Brinn -2
Nog, Gwath, and Lommy - 1

Still to vote: Shasta, Nerwen, and Nilp

Durelin
03-18-2009, 09:00 PM
You feel very strongly about that vote, I can tell.

Well when you can't even decide if you want to be lynched or not...le sigh.

Edit: That would be a general 'you' meaning...uh...me.

Also, wow. I didn't realize we had 3 more people to vote. Well, if they vote at all.

satansaloser2005
03-18-2009, 09:06 PM
Day's over.


I just got back, so give me a bit to go through the thread and I'll have the result and narration up as soon as possible. Thanks in advance for your patience.

Nerwen
03-18-2009, 09:07 PM
I think I just missed the deadline (as usual). I have an excuse, though– my mother arrived a few minutes ago.

Um... does my vote for YouTube count?

the phantom
03-18-2009, 09:20 PM
I've really lost my steam here.
That's what she said.

satansaloser2005
03-18-2009, 09:37 PM
Legate was lynched. He was an ordo, but when voting a wolf or the cobbler his voting power was doubled to help the village.


Narration will be put in another post as soon as I get it written, so keep an eye out.


Were-ducks, send me your kill, all assorted gifteds please give me like ten minutes, then send in any relevant picks. Thanks.


Sleep well, my village!




ETA: Nerwen, your vote counts, but had you retracted it I wouldn't have held it against you. Basically, I wanted my vote tally to include "Nerwen-->Youtube" so I kept it. Nilp's retraction DOES count as one of his two retractions in the game.

satansaloser2005
03-19-2009, 11:44 AM
(Sorry I'm putting this up so late. I fell asleep writing it last night so I had to finish it up this morning when I woke up. Also, as a note, there are NO hints in the narrations, and anything I write that may be taken as a clue toward someone's role isn't a clue, it's just how I chose to write the narration. Also, all gifteds will be referred to as guys and all were-ducks as girls. That is all. Enjoy!)





"Yes, duck poisons are my trade. I am a duck-killer. My name is Legate the Duck-Killer. I find, suspect, and vote for were-ducks."

--or--

"You only killed the village's most powerful voter, you know."
"Well, I didn't mean to."
"Didn't mean to? You put your pickles right through his head."

--or--

"Well, we'll not risk another frontal assault. That Gwath's dynamite."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Some of the villagers met early that first morning and gathered around Sally's body.

“That,” Nienna muttered, “is disgusting....”

“Nasty,” Fea agreed.

“Well, it's only to be expected,” Mira noted. “After all, she was wearing purple and, as you know....”

“As you know,” Lari interrupted, “ducks hate purple. Especially were-ducks. I can see why they might have hated her,” she added, nodding toward Mira. “Only crazy people wear purple. And really, only crazy people who hunt were-ducks.”

“It's no wonder they killed her,” Brinn agreed, and they all looked down as they heard a groan from below them.

“Actually, I'm not quite dead yet....”

Durie walked up and poked the moddess in the ribs with her toes. “You know, things are loud enough without the dead people talking too.”

“Really,” Sally croaked, “I'm feeling much better....”

Wilwa rolled her eyes and facepalmed, and the banter continued.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A few hours later Lari wasn't enjoying herself anymore and Durie....well, Durie hadn't been in the first place. “Who can blame her?” Nilp commented dryly. “This village sucks.”

“That's what she said,” said a ghostly voice from outside.

In the corner Rikae and Noggie were bickering.

“Die! Die! God in heaven, die!” Rikae shouted at him.

Lommie walked in, looked at the pair of them, and sighed. “Shoot. Me. Now,” she mumbled.

“Tell me about it,” added Mith. “Life is worthless without Phantom.”

A few of the refugees looked toward Gwath maliciously, but before they could sign his death warrant a giant Sally shaped face appeared in the mid-afternoon sky. All the villagers fell to the ground and before long a confused and slightly hacked off expression formed on Sally's face.

“What are you doing now?”

Kath stood, keeping her gaze rooted to the ground. “Averting our eyes, oh moddess.”

Sally rolled her flipping enormous eyes.

“Well, don't. It's just like that miserable Mith, always so depressing. Now knock it off! Just don't kill Gwath and we'll all be cool, okay?”

The group pouted and began to disperse. From their midst Gwath emerged.

“Oh! Had enough, eh? Come back and take what's coming to you, you blankity-blank werewolves! Come back here and take what's coming to you! I'll bite your legs off!”

“Dude,” Lari put in, “we can always kill you toMorrow.”

“Well, crap.”

“For toDay though,” Lari said slowly. “We could always....I dunno....kill Durie.”

“Excellent!” chorused Noggie and Legate, and Durie's head shook in protest.

“Oh no you don't! Legate, you're going down for this!”

Before Legate knew what was happening they'd cornered him and Wilwa, Nienna, Brinn, and Gwath were advancing on him with tubs of pickles.

“Better you than me, man,” Gwath said with a shrug, and chucked a jar at poor Legate's head.

“But I'm here to help the village! It's Durie you want! Kill Durie, kill her! Not me!”

“Confess,” Nienna yelled, “or we shall say ++LEGATE again to you!”

“No! Never!” Legate cried. “Do your worst!”

Brinn and Wilwa looked at each other. “Meh. He asked for it.”

When Mnemo came out at sunset she saw Sally's body over by the old church, and beside her was a large pile of pickles. “What the heck happened here?”

The pickles shifted, and from the end of the pile emerged Legate's bruised and bloody face.

“I was attacked....” he responded. “I was attacked by Uuuugggghhhh....”

“Attacked by whom?” Mnemo queried, feigning interest and surreptitiously taking a hungry glance at Legate's toes, which were sticking out from under a large clump of dills.

“Uuuugggghhhh....” Legate repeated, and a voice from within the church mumbled, “That's what....”

“Oh shut up,” Mnemo interrupted, then looked back down at Legate. After a thorough examination she decided he wasn't much good to eat. After all, he was covered in some sort of foul smelling liquid. In the end, she just shoved one of the larger pickles down his throat and left him to die.


Sally (moddess, stabbed in a case of mistaken identity by a non-six-fingered Phantom on Night 0)
Phantom (narcissist, made into a very unhealthy breakfast on Night 0)
Legate (ordo, pickled on Day 1)

satansaloser2005
03-19-2009, 09:00 PM
A crowd of well wishers surrounds Mira
--or--
"To swim or not to swim, that is the question. Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the feathers and beaks of the were-ducks...."
--or--
"What is it? The well! The well! Mira's stuck in the well!"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Night One

Mira had been so loud on the first Day that, really, it shouldn't have been much of a surprise to her when the were-ducks approached her after sunset, dragging her to the well in the center of town.

“What are you doing?” she shouted, and one of the ducks clapped a feathered hand over her mouth before she could scream any more.

“Mmhmm let mmhmm go mmhmm of mmhmm me,” Mira ordered, her voice distorted through the foul gag. One of the villains glanced furtively around the village. She thought she saw someone moving, but as she stepped away to investigate one of her packmates called for her.

“For the love of Hans Christian Anderson, she's feisty! The nasty thing just bit me,” she complained, waving her semi-wing back and forth and hissing in pain. “Didn't your father ever teach you to play nice?”

“My father's dead,” Mira put in sadly, but the were-ducks just laughed at her confession.

“Well then get thee to a grief counsellor. We're not here to listen to you cry.”

“Actually we are,” another put in, and they all burst out laughing again.

Mira continued to struggle until finally the other duck scampered off, returning with someone in tow. “Shut up and take it like a big girl or we slit his throat,” she threatened.

The hostage's face was shrouded in darkness but Mira recognized him instantly.

“No,” she begged, “not him. Please don't hurt him.”

It took two of the were-creatures to subdue him, but they finally held his mouth open and poured some kind of liquid in it. In less than a minute he collapsed, unconscious.

“No!”

“It's all right, he's just sleeping,” one of the were-ducks whispered in her ear. “For now.”

“What do I have to do?” Mira asked hesitantly.

All the were-ducks smiled and looked toward the middle of their little circle, right at the well.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The next morning a few of the members of the little party walked toward the well to get a drink.

“I think there's something in the water,” Gwath noted, and Durie nodded in agreement.

They looked down into the well and gasped.

“No....freaking....way....”

By now most of the group had gathered with them. Shasta stumbled out of the building and brought up the rear, pushing his way to the front of the group. “What's going on?”

“Mira's trapped in the well!” Nerwen shouted, bouncing up and down and looking surprisingly chipper despite both the early hour and the grim news which had just left her mouth. “She's dead. Give me a D! Give me an E! Give me a D!” Shasta glared at her and she weakly finished, “What does that spell? Dead.”

“She killed herself,” Mith theorized. “Wish I'd thought of it first.”

“Tell me about it,” agreed Nilp and Lommie, and Wilwa facepalmed again.

Shasta vomited in a small bush across the village square at the sight of her mangled body, and the rest of the villagers slowly made their way toward the local bakery to scrounge for some breakfast.

“But....” said Fea.

Izzy sighed impatiently as she walked beside her. “Yes?”

Fea shrugged. “That was it.”

“It's a cover-up,” Mac said to himself as he and Rikae walked toward the building. “It's all a conspiracy to brainwash the youth of the Downs by....by....I'll get back to you.”

“Yes, dear,” Rikae agreed supportively, and stole a glance back at the well, which was far too tall for tiny little Mira to have jumped into by herself.


The Dead
Sally (stabbed in a case of mistaken identity by a non-six-fingered Phantom on Night 0)
Phantom (made into a very unhealthy breakfast on Night 0)
Legate (ordo, pickled on Day 1)
Mira (Ophelia, ordo, drowned on Night 1)




Shastanis Althreduin
The Living
Feanor of the Peredhil
Brinniel
wilwarin538
Durelin
Nogrod
Isabellkya
Nerwen
Rikae
Mith
Kath
Lari
Mac
Nienna
Gwathagor
Thinlómien
Nilpaurion Felagund

Feanor of the Peredhil
03-19-2009, 09:07 PM
Slightly confused by narration. List says only Mira dead. Story says other person used to threaten M into suicide. Other person significant to Night events?

Gwathagor
03-19-2009, 09:10 PM
Wait, Ophelia? Wasn't there somebody putting a lot of Shakespeare in their posts? Maybe there's a connection there?

I wonder if other ordos have been cast as famous crazy people/characters (like Hamlet, for example, or Oedipus, or Charles the Mad)?

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 09:13 PM
Mira! Noooo! :(

Blech. I feel sick. (Clearly, since the narration has me vomiting...)

I'll be back later with detailed reasoning on why each and every one of you could have killed Mira.

:(

satansaloser2005
03-19-2009, 09:14 PM
Slightly confused by narration. List says only Mira dead. Story says other person used to threaten M into suicide. Other person significant to Night events?


All in good time, m'dear.

Gwathagor
03-19-2009, 09:22 PM
Slightly confused by narration. List says only Mira dead. Story says other person used to threaten M into suicide. Other person significant to Night events?

It's Hamlet, it must be.

Lariren Shadow
03-19-2009, 09:23 PM
Aw Mira! I really have no idea right now who could have done it.

I do also want to know who this M is. But I could just easily see that the only other M is Mac. Interesting...

I wonder if other ordos have been cast as famous crazy people/characters (like Hamlet, for example, or Oedipus, or Charles the Mad)?

How about Juanna La Loca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_of_Castile) or Elizabeth Báthory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blood_Countess) as well?

Lariren Shadow
03-19-2009, 09:24 PM
Or I read it wrong and M is Mira...

Feanor of the Peredhil
03-19-2009, 09:24 PM
M is Mira, as evidenced by context. Sorry for confusion.

Gwathagor
03-19-2009, 09:25 PM
Wait, Ophelia? Wasn't there somebody putting a lot of Shakespeare in their posts?


Oh, it was Nienna. Hmm. Sally didn't specify whether her lover pairs would be strictly male-female or not, so maybe we've got some kind of crazy lover thing where their fates aren't intertwined? Or maybe Nienna's Shakespeare thing is just Sally's way of messing with us.

Gwathagor
03-19-2009, 09:26 PM
How about Juanna La Loca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_of_Castile) or Elizabeth Báthory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blood_Countess) as well?

I know! Don Quixote!

Nienna
03-19-2009, 09:31 PM
Mira my darling Stick the course of true love never did run smooth.

Just popping in to say goodnight, goodnight, goodnight.

Lariren Shadow
03-19-2009, 09:34 PM
So either Nienna is Stick's lover or just wants to throw us off. I'm too tired to try to come up with which is better so I'm going to bed.

Gwathagor
03-19-2009, 09:36 PM
Mira my darling Stick the course of true love never did run smooth.

Just popping in to say goodnight, goodnight, goodnight.

More Shakespeare!

satansaloser2005
03-19-2009, 09:37 PM
....


What? You were expecting something else?

Gwathagor
03-19-2009, 09:37 PM
Just popping in to say goodnight, goodnight, goodnight.

And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest?

Isabellkya
03-19-2009, 09:41 PM
Fortunately, maybe. It looks like there are clues. No telling if they will help us or not. Depends on the twisted-ness of Sally I suppose.

Maybe Mira wasn't a lover? Especially since the list has her as an ordo.



X'd since Lari's #359.

Gwathagor
03-19-2009, 09:43 PM
Maybe Mira wasn't a lover? Especially since the list has her as an ordo.

That may be, but she certainly has some connection with another player, given the narration.

Isabellkya
03-19-2009, 09:47 PM
True.
It could've been an extra to her ordoness.
Since Legate's vote counted double when on a Cobbler or Duckie.

Though, we might find out toNight. Since it looks like the WereDucks knew of him.

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 09:47 PM
And shall I not attempt to find the perpetrators of the death of our lady fair?

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 09:49 PM
Sometime too hot, the eye of heav'n shines...

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 09:51 PM
How canst I compare thee to a summer's day, when his gold complexion is often dimmed! Dear William, dear William, thou mak'st not a lick o' the sense!

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 09:52 PM
Iago, Iago and the fair Desdemona... sonnets do not make peace with the number of ways I adore thee, Desdemona... Or even Kate the shrew! Kiss me, Kate, we'll be at thy family's abode Sunday!

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 09:54 PM
A pillow, and a knife, and out, out, thine Spot! Macbeth and the Lady, so fair-weather friends of old Duncan, and MacDuff was winner or loser.

We shall never know though the battle of the trees, what Macbeth thought when he realized that stout MacDuff was ne'er born of no woman, but then ripped henceforth from the womb.

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 09:56 PM
Six is the number of this post; six, it being the number of the devil; six, it being such a mythological number...

Seven? Shall seven compare thee to a summer's day? Be it more lovely and more temperate?

Shall I? Shall he, she, or it? Shall I compare thee to one of dear Will's monologues? Shall I?

Or shall I not?

Isabellkya
03-19-2009, 09:56 PM
o.O

Uh, Shasta?

You know this is a fictional Asylum, right?

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 09:56 PM
Perhaps before the beginning of the wasting insanity, that plague, I should have called for that wicked way of the politick, the filibuster...

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 09:58 PM
o.O

Uh, Shasta?

You know this is a fictional Asylum, right?

Asylum? Asylum? Asylum! We are all mad here, lass, we with our swords, our lances, our bastinades, our greatswords, our hand-and-a-halfs, our staves, our knives - out out Spot! - our epee - aye, and saber and foil as well! - out weapons of thine mass destruction!

Hear ye, hear ye, for that is what the lass said.

Gwathagor
03-19-2009, 10:01 PM
[...]out weapons of thine mass destruction!

Hear ye, hear ye, for that is what the lass said.

Haaaa!

Durelin
03-19-2009, 10:01 PM
It certainly suggests she was a lover, but for some reason Hamlet didn't go down with her. Perhaps because of our ranger...? Or we simply don't have traditional lovers. If we do have the traditional lovers, a werecreature and a non-werecreature...if the wolves killed one of their packmate's lover...?

I guess it's probably a waste of time to speculate on it...unless Mira was lover to a werecreature and we can follow a trail to them...which I doubt. The trail part anyway.

We need to look a bit at why the wolves picked Mira, too, of course. Maybe I'll have time to go over her posts a bit before I go to bed, but I'm definitely not staying up as late as I did at the start of yesterDay...

A note about yesterDay - I guess the double vote thing was what Legate was experimenting with. Bleh.

(Edit: Crossed with many...mostly Shasta.)

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 10:01 PM
Be thee dead? Be thee alive? Be thee anywhere about, come hither, come yon, come bear me safely home to mine own lady fair.

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 10:02 PM
It certainly suggests she was a lover, but for some reason Hamlet didn't go down with her. Perhaps because of our ranger...? Or we simply don't have traditional lovers. If we do have the traditional lovers, a werecreature and a non-werecreature...if the wolves killed one of their packmate's lover...?

I guess it's probably a waste of time to speculate on it...unless Mira was lover to a werecreature and we can follow a trail to them...which I doubt. The trail part anyway.

We need to look a bit at why the wolves picked Mira, too, of course. Maybe I'll have time to go over her posts a bit before I go to bed, but I'm definitely not staying up as late as I did at the start of yesterDay...

A note about yesterDay - I guess the double vote thing was what Legate was experimenting with. Bleh.

(Edit: Crossed with many...mostly Shasta.)

A tisket, a tasket, a basket full of rye
I wonder, yes I do, what has caught Durelin's eye?

Durelin
03-19-2009, 10:02 PM
Shasta is certainly Hamming it up.

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 10:03 PM
Haaaa!

I live to serve, I serve to live
What I have is amusement to give
I'm not really sure why I'm speaking in rhyme
But good golly, Miss Molly, I'm having such a time!
For when does one dance and appear off his head?

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 10:04 PM
Shasta is certainly Hamming it up.

Alas, poor Durelin, I knew Ham well, a pork of infinite jest.

Gwathagor
03-19-2009, 10:05 PM
Alas, poor Durelin, I knew Ham well, a pork of infinite jest.

That's really pretty clever.

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 10:05 PM
Phantom! Oh, Phantom! Where be thine guiding presence? Dost mine Phantom wish me well?

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 10:06 PM
That's really pretty clever.

Clever is, as clever does, but clever and intelligent are two different things, says the virtuous fool.

Durelin
03-19-2009, 10:07 PM
Alas, poor Durelin, I knew Ham well, a pork of infinite jest.

*oink*

Lariren Shadow
03-19-2009, 10:08 PM
It certainly suggests she was a lover, but for some reason Hamlet didn't go down with her. Perhaps because of our ranger...? Or we simply don't have traditional lovers. If we do have the traditional lovers, a werecreature and a non-werecreature...if the wolves killed one of their packmate's lover...?

Ok so I have to ask. For lovers if one dies the other dies? Or not? Because I thought it was if one gets killed by the wolves then the alive lover gets to have a revenge kill. Or is that just not the case?:confused:

Really to bed now.

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 10:09 PM
It certainly suggests she was a lover

Suggests, madam! Nay, it is; I know not "suggests".

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 10:10 PM
Ok so I have to ask. For lovers if one dies the other dies? Or not?

Break, my heart! But break, my heart, for I must hold my tongue.

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 10:12 PM
Because I thought it was if one gets killed by the wolves then the alive lover gets to have a revenge kill.

I'll speak to it though Hell itself should gape
And bid me hold my peace.

Durelin
03-19-2009, 10:13 PM
For lovers if one dies the other dies? Or not? Because I thought it was if one gets killed by the wolves then the alive lover gets to have a revenge kill.

That's how I thought lovers worked in previous games here...but that doesn't mean anything. It might well be the revenge thing in this game because we only have one lover down...if Mira was a lover.

I'll be back later with detailed reasoning on why each and every one of you could have killed Mira.

Is this then sorta a warning maybe?

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 10:15 PM
But to my mind, — though I am native here
And to the manner born, — it is a custom
More honour'd in the breach than the observance.

...Or in the observance, rather than the breach, if thou tak'st my meaning.

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 10:17 PM
To one of you:

O, villain, villain, smiling, darned villain!
My tables, — meet it is I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain.

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 10:18 PM
And to that I say -

The time is out of joint; O cursed spite,
That ever I was born to set it right!

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 10:19 PM
The time is out of joint - ay, the time, the time!

You cannot, you will not take from me anything that I will more willingly part withal — except my life — except my life — except my life.

Durelin
03-19-2009, 10:20 PM
Wellll, looks like this is going to be a long day...

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 10:21 PM
Tis now the very witching time of night,
When churchyards yawn and hell itself breathes out
Contagion to this world: now could I drink hot blood,
And do such bitter business, as the day
Would quake to look on.

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 10:22 PM
Wellll, looks like this is going to be a long day...

As I said, fair Durelin, the time is out of joint. Into my grave I shall walk, ere sun breaks the dawn fair.

Gwathagor
03-19-2009, 10:25 PM
As I said, fair Durelin, the time is out of joint. Into my grave I shall walk, ere sun breaks the dawn fair.

Oh dang!

Shastanis Althreduin
03-19-2009, 10:26 PM
I die, Gwathagor;
The potent poison quite o'er-crows my spirit:
I cannot live to hear the news from England;
But I do prophesy the election lights
On Durelin: she has my dying voice;
So tell her, with the occurrents, more and less,
Which have solicited. The rest is silence.

the phantom
03-19-2009, 10:40 PM
Other person significant to Night events?
Your mom is significant to night events.

the phantom
03-19-2009, 10:43 PM
Shasta is certainly Hamming it up.
Your mom is hamming it up.

Durelin
03-19-2009, 10:46 PM
Your mom is hamming it up.

Your face is hamming it up.


Wait....

the phantom
03-19-2009, 11:03 PM
More cowbell please. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4royOLtvmQ)

the phantom
03-19-2009, 11:12 PM
Guess what?

I've gotta fever! And the only prescription... is more posting.

Brinniel
03-19-2009, 11:19 PM
Poor Trunk of Tree. Tree trunks don't belong in wells...

Isabellkya
03-19-2009, 11:27 PM
Oh boy.
I liked phantom's 'she said' jokes yesterDay.

I reckon, his 'your mom' jokes toDay will grow tiresome soon.
Though Christopher Walken is hilarious, stick with him please.


Oh dear. I feel the need to break out in rhyme from all this hogwash from Shasta.

Brinniel
03-19-2009, 11:41 PM
Apparently Shasta has been driven to madness by the death of Stick. Or at least something has triggered this sudden insanity. Maybe he's no longer allowed to post anything but nonsense. Or at least Shakespearian nonsense...

Durelin
03-19-2009, 11:51 PM
It's 1:45 am here so just a quick thingy.

This was rather an interesting post from Mira:

I've never played or watched a game with lovers. How does it work? Do they know who the other is or do they have to figure it out? Someone said something earlier about if one dies the other goes with xem... Or does it all depend on the individual game?

She was hardly the only person to ask about lovers (I did, I think Lari did, I think Legate might have, etc.), but...

Yeah, that's all I've got right now. Night.

Durelin
03-19-2009, 11:52 PM
Moor cowbell (http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Item:Moor_Cowbell). Heh.

Isabellkya
03-20-2009, 12:00 AM
Sooo, huh. Entertaining as Shasta is being. Especially with the rhyming. Kookiness, would accurately describe it, me thinks.

Maybe he has fallen off his rocker one too many times? Especially given the circumstances, of an Asylum setting?


Why would he be driven to madness over Mira's death? Miss Duckess said there wouldn't be any clues in the narrations.

Shasta, care to explain to us - your sudden bout of errm.. theatrical ... vocal overflow?


X'd with Durelin x2.

satansaloser2005
03-20-2009, 12:05 AM
....And you shall find.




Hmmmm, looks like you all are a bit confused. Hehe.

satansaloser2005
03-20-2009, 12:23 AM
Incidentally, Shasta is the village prostitute. He stated it clearly before.



(Yes you sillies, I'm kidding.)



Perchance the time is coming to end this madness....perchance you should all take a close look at the list of players from the last narration. ;)

Isabellkya
03-20-2009, 12:30 AM
o.O

Why isn't Shasta under "The Living" section.

Brinniel
03-20-2009, 12:54 AM
Looks like Shasta may be our Hamlet after all.

Is he in purgatory? Or simply in his own state of mind? :p

satansaloser2005
03-20-2009, 01:14 AM
Night One, Part Two

Shasta had been grieving for Mira for a few hours, bursting into song and sonnet for no apparent reason. Durie and Izzy weren't terribly impressed, while Gwath found it all rather clever.

Everyone's moms were suspiciously silent.

Realizing that everyone was more entertained than empathetic, Shasta stumbled back toward the center of town and saw Wilwa standing by the old pharmacy.

“What's wrong?” she asked as he approached, glaring at her.

“You....you killed her,” he growled. “You killed Mira....”

Wilwa looked around, then smiled hesitantly and led him over toward a bench. “You're probably just sick after travelling so far the last few days. Don't worry, you'll be all right.”

“You killed her,” he repeated, and pulled out a cowbell.

“I've got a fever, and the only prescription is killing Wilwa?”

“Too right, Phantom,” Shasta said, and Wilwa stared at him, confused by the sight of the poor guy talking to thin air.

He swung the cowbell at Wilwa's face and missed. Normally he could have caught her, but by now the rest of the group had heard her screams and had come to her aid.

Then again, the fact that he was puking in the bushes again didn't help.

“Hmmmm,” mused one of the were-ducks, “I think we gave him a bit much.”

“Could be,” one of her fellows agreed. “Then again....Pssst!”

Another of their number withdrew from the crowd slightly. “What is it?”

“What'd you give that guy?”

“I gave him a sedative. I made sure I had the other stuff in case the girl wouldn't cooperate, but there wasn't a need for it. Honestly,” she responded indignantly, holding up the two vials, “it's not like I can't....” In one hand was a full flask of Nyquil, in the other an empty vial marked “For expert wine drinkers only.”

The were-ducks all turned as Shasta vomited again, then dropped to the ground dead. The one who had administered the poison looked at her fellows and grinned innocently.

“Oops?”



The Dead
Sally (stabbed in a case of mistaken identity by a non-six-fingered Phantom on Night 0)
Phantom (made into a very unhealthy breakfast on Night 0)
Legate (ordo, pickled on Day 1)
Mira (Ophelia, ordo, drowned on Night 1)
Shasta (Hamlet, ordo, semi-accidentally poisoned on Night 1)


The Living
Feanor of the Peredhil
Brinniel
wilwarin538
Durelin
Nogrod
Isabellkya
Nerwen
Rikae
Mith
Kath
Lari
Mac
Nienna
Gwathagor
Thinlómien
Nilpaurion Felagund


An explanation: Mira and Shasta are in fact lovers, but ordo lovers, not gifted or otherwise, and were identified specifically as Hamlet and Ophelia. Mira was the were-ducks target, by the way. I decided to let Shasta have a little fun with the understanding that he couldn't post a whole lot of sensical stuff and I think he did fairly well. Heh. However he was doomed to die and thus only lived through part of the Day. He is now fully dead and will no longer participate.
Shasta had the opportunity to pick a person to kill and chose Wilwa (hence the cowbell attack) but the success of his 'revenge kill' was decided by coin flip and he lost, so she lives. (I recorded the coin flip for kicks and giggles and it will be uploaded to youtube and linked into this post as soon as I get back to school and have a better internet connection)


Carry on with your Day! :)


ETA: The coin flip is up on youtube now and you can watch it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_t5qCM0vHM).

Nerwen
03-20-2009, 01:35 AM
Aw, poor Shasta.:(

n0w th3r3s nobdy 2 trnsl8 4 me!111!1!

Brinniel
03-20-2009, 01:54 AM
Heh, so I guess I was right. Though I didn't expect him to be dead dead just yet. A great final performance by Shasta though. He deserves a prize.

Nerwen
03-20-2009, 02:32 AM
Heh, so I guess I was right. Though I didn't expect him to be dead dead just yet. A great final performance by Shasta though. He deserves a prize.

He does! He does!:):):)

Shasta, Shasta, so much fun!
When it comes to Shakespeare, he's number one!
The best we've seen,
In black and green,
Now he's dead, perchance to dream!
S-H-A-S-T-A,
Shasta's going all the way!*



*To the cemetery.

EDIT:fixed bolding.

Nerwen
03-20-2009, 02:59 AM
The really awesome thing is, how fantastically confusing it all is.:)

Did the wereducks pick up something we all missed?
Do we have gifted wereducks?
Or did they just get lucky?

We've got so much to think about! I'm so excited it's giving me chills!:D

Macalaure
03-20-2009, 04:25 AM
Miri didn't really contribute anything of value, and that usually leaves four options:
1. The game is going exactly the direction the ducks desire, and she was a kill that wouldn't disturb this.
2. The ducks were under pressure and sought for a trailless kill.
3. The ducks have a personal gripe with people who don't contribute much.
4. The ducks just want to give us the impression of one of the above.

-1 is what I think. Any kill with an actual reason behind it could only have caught people's interest and stopped them from being silly. This kill is likely to perpetuate the situation. The conclusion from that? Not much. It slightly exonerates Lari and Durelin.
-We were so clueless yesterday that 2 is nearly impossible.
-3 would require that all three agree on this principle. It could also be that a dominant duck with a personal aversion convinced his mates (*is not thinking about aaanybody particular* :Merisu: ), but even then in the very least it means that neither of the ducks went the easy less-contributing way yesterday. However, I would not expect a duck to do that anyway. Ducks are nervous by nature, and giving the obvious impression of being unhelpful is something they usually like to avoid.
-4 is always possible, you can never tell.

Of course there is also the possibility that they guessed Miri's role right, but how often does that really happen on Day1?

*stops annoying Fea* ;)


I wish Legate had gotten less votes - then we could now make some good statement about Durelin.


Nogrod's posting requirement could be that, once he makes a point about something, he has to stick with it no matter how contrary the evidence. Look how he only abandons his "everybody has requirements after Sally cleared it up. Obviously, that must've been the secret code among them. His points against Rikae are headdeskworthy, too, yet he keeps on insisting.

Then again, I guess Sally would rather give each of us something uncharacteristic. :p

In any case, Nogrod deserves a brutal, vicious, and unnecessarily violent lynching for discussing roles and requirements the way he did.

Whether to speak openly or to tactically try to shut up and hope the baddies don't connect the dots?If at least you would've connected the dots the right way, but the picture is entirely skewed. I really wish I could go into detail, but that would be unwise.

I don't know why, but Nogrod is creeping me out this game. I'd be very willing to lynch him just for that, if only his points against Durelin wouldn't make so much sense...


Lynch Gwath toDay and I'll modfire the lot of you.

Alright now... what? Did you give Gwath some precious special powers? So special that, once your Gwathiepoo ends up under the slightest pressure, you turn him into the invincible Gwathfried? And just look how many people defended him - all this made up "let's not lynch him on day one again" chorus people were obviously required to post! Admit it, this whole game is just about Gwath winning, isn't it, Sally? We should've taken our chance and lynched him yesterday, that way at least we would've forced a draw! Just look at it - the evidence is right in front of your eyes!

*prepares a spear and waits for Sally to slip Gwath's vulnerable spot*

Thinlómien
03-20-2009, 04:41 AM
-3 would require that all three agree on this principle. It could also be that a dominant duck with a personal aversion convinced his mates (*is not thinking about aaanybody particular* ), but even then in the very least it means that neither of the ducks went the easy less-contributing way yesterday. However, I would not expect a duck to do that anyway. Ducks are nervous by nature, and giving the obvious impression of being unhelpful is something they usually like to avoid.:D I don't actually think Nogrod would necessarily want to kill the non-contributors because he should have learned by now that it points at him... ;)

Anyway, Mac, I'm not sure about your classification of Mira as a non-contributor. I think she contributed more than many, even though she spent the beginning of the Day just bantering. Or so I think. Hmmm... I'll check her posts (and also if there's some stuff late yesterDay that demands a comment from me).

Thinlómien
03-20-2009, 05:11 AM
Mira

Perhaps it is time to head off to dream land and hope said dreams aren't plagued by wereducks.Could the ducks have seen this a seer hint?

Suspects: Kath, Lommy, Nilp; thinks innocentish: Brinn, Nog; neither: Fea, wilwa, Dury, Izzy, Nerwen, Rikae, Mith, Lari, Mac, Nienna, Gwath. Votes: Lommy.
These don't maybe tell us very much, though, because the seer surely had no Night1 dream.

One last thing... maybe the ducks simply got (false) gifted vibes from Mira?

~*~

Late yesterDay

Hope you guys don't mind me replying Mira although she's already dead :D I just have to straighten this out...

So you're voting for her because she bantered for the first three pages just like Nienna, phantom, sally, and I all did. That makes sense. You claim she should know better but so should everyone else. That seems highly suspicious in my opinion.I think it's pretty obvious I couldn't have voted all of the early banterers.:rolleyes:

++Brinn

Self preservation. On a meta-level. And now...

By a sleep to say we end the heartache...

One can hope...What to make out of this? Just a joke or something more sinister?

Her vote was an easy one, and her comment about not really thinking Lari is a wolf anyway but "oh, it's just Day 1"...I still don't get why it's suspicious not to have proper suspects on Day1.:rolleyes:

Lommy: On one hand, she agreed with me when I said we should vote based only on behaviour. Yet she then votes Lari for banter posts. Very contradicting.It was all the "evidence" I had... and besides it was a sort of gut-feeling anyway.

Nienna
03-20-2009, 05:36 AM
I don't have time to finish reading the posts so far as I am late, late, for a very important... school day... anyway... i just want to give props to Shasta for a very Shakespearean death... it always seems to take them forever to die...

Thinlómien
03-20-2009, 05:38 AM
Whether to speak openly or to tactically try to shut up and hope the baddies don't connect the dots?
If at least you would've connected the dots the right way, but the picture is entirely skewed. I really wish I could go into detail, but that would be unwise.*raises eyebrow* What? Why do I get the feeling that some people are sending secret messages and I'm left out...

Oh well, I'm leaving now but I'll be back later.:)

edit: xed (and agreed :D) with Nienna

Nogrod
03-20-2009, 06:22 AM
Running back to work but just a quick one.

Anyone else wondering why there was only one kill last Night?


In any case, Nogrod deserves a brutal, vicious, and unnecessarily violent lynching for discussing roles and requirements the way he did.
...
I really wish I could go into detail, but that would be unwise.
I see what you mean, but aren't you a bit hasty to throw the first stone? If you had a role that included omniscience you might argue you have the details right - but if you aren't an omniscient being then you must admit you don't know all the details. Like the one that your stone would be going in a wrong direction in this case even if your intentions were good...

Good work Lommy for spotting the "dream-thing" from Mira's posting. It looks like something worth trying for the ducks - not the least because even if they failed she would be a nice kill anyway leaving little tracks for anyone to follow. But if that is the truth, then we are sadly out of clues as to solving the problem Mac brought forwards as to whether the ducks feel confident or are under pressure.

wilwarin538
03-20-2009, 06:24 AM
here and reading...will have post soonish

Nilpaurion Felagund
03-20-2009, 06:52 AM
Pages 1 to 3: I find better stuff between my toes.

Durelin: Knows how to attract electrically-charged bloodsucking insects.

(There is nothing wrong with my sentence. Read it again.)

Isabellkya: Is an army officer with rank of Captain. Her surname starts with 'O'. Apparently she idolises Legolas.

Nogrod: Shoots first, then shoots again. A little later he asks a question, and then shoots again before he's answered. Good job, mate.

Nerwen: Owes me a lot of aspirin, paracetamol, or ibuprofen.

Sally: See above comment.

Mnemosyne: See above comment.

Mithalwen: :)

I'll dissect the rest of you later.

Nerwen
03-20-2009, 07:03 AM
Isabellkya: Is an army officer with rank of Captain. Her surname starts with 'O'. Apparently she idolises Legolas.
:D

Nerwen: Owes me a lot of aspirin, paracetamol, or ibuprofen.

There, there. Here's some paracetemol for da poor widdle head. (Don't have any of the others, sorry.)


EDIT: spelling of "paracetamol" corrected. Quite a hard word to spell.

wilwarin538
03-20-2009, 07:05 AM
Shasta had the opportunity to pick a person to kill and chose Wilwa (hence the cowbell attack) but the success of his 'revenge kill' was decided by coin flip and he lost, so she lives.

:eek: Wow, my life on a coin flip, that's pretty scary...

Anyway, I have been given a second chance at life so I will definitely try and be useful.

Anyone else wondering why there was only one kill last Night?

It must simply mean that we are only dealing with wolves and not a bear or anything. Unless the bear gave up his chance for a kill so that we wouldn't know of his existence right away, but I doubt that.

Lommy's "seer hint" spot makes a lot of sense, seers always seem to be the main target for wolves so it wouldn't surprise me for a second that they'd go after anyone who could fill that role.

Miri didn't really contribute anything of value, and that usually leaves four options:
1. The game is going exactly the direction the ducks desire, and she was a kill that wouldn't disturb this.
2. The ducks were under pressure and sought for a trailless kill.
3. The ducks have a personal gripe with people who don't contribute much.
4. The ducks just want to give us the impression of one of the above.

I'm thinking no for 2 and 3. They had 24 hours to decide on something and most likely plenty of people to choose from, so I doubt they were under that much pressure. 3 isn't really a smart tactic for them, people who don't talk much can aquire a lot of suspicion so to kill them off wouldn't be overly intelligent. 1 is possible, but it's a scary notion that everything is going exactly as they planned. :eek:

Well, it's really quite impossible to know what their thinking, so I think we should maybe just keep Mira in the back of our minds then toMorrow when their is another kill we can compare the two, see if there is some pattern or something, perhaps I'll re-read her's later, though what Lommy found seems to make quite a lot of sense...

For now I need to go run some erands, I'll be back fairly shortly. Perhaps I'll make a list of some sort...

x'posted since my last

Macalaure
03-20-2009, 07:13 AM
I don't mean to offend anybody nor derail the game, but...

I'm always a bit baffled when someone talks about dreams or anything like that and then ends up killed. I can't think of even one occasion where the dead person actually was the seer. Seers, especially seers who don't have anything to show yet, desire staying alive for a bit. Comments like that interfere with that quite drastically. One would therefore think, that ducks would ignore such comments when looking to kill somebody who actually could be the seer. Only silly or overly paranoid ducks would fall for it and waste a kill on an ordo. Now, we humble ordos pick up these hints during the day and our immediate thought is "the ducks thought s/he was the seer, that was why she was killed", without thinking about what implication this has on the nature of the ducks. Unless we have baddies that are running around like ducks with their head cut off (pause for laughter) those seer hints mean nothing. We might have such ducks, but we won't find real evidence for that until later. It's a nice find, of course, especially since it took some work, but no more.

Seriously, I've seen the above happen in so many games already. Sure, it doesn't do any harm, but hey. :rolleyes:

[/rant]

Lariren Shadow
03-20-2009, 07:30 AM
Miri didn't really contribute anything of value, and that usually leaves four options:
1. The game is going exactly the direction the ducks desire, and she was a kill that wouldn't disturb this.
2. The ducks were under pressure and sought for a trailless kill.
3. The ducks have a personal gripe with people who don't contribute much.
4. The ducks just want to give us the impression of one of the above.

I think 1 is the most likely out of those, but there is also the idea that they just wanted a trailless kill without feeling any pressure. Why try to frame someone when there were already people poised to be lynched on Day 1? Unless they really thought she was a Lover, which she was, then she might have been a good kill. But, other than that, she seemed very trailless.


Could the ducks have seen this a seer hint?

Maybe, but they could have just thought she was a trailless kill, which seems more likely. Because unless she was super lucky with her first dream(did the Seer even get a dream as of yesterDay?) then she wouldn't have known anything other than who was an ordo or such. There are, as it appears, 3 were-ducks and no werebear, as of this Morning, and the odds of picking the right person first off is very slim.

Anyone else wondering why there was only one kill last Night?


Yes, and then someone else posted that they were wondering too. I'm more inclinded to think that there isn't a werebear, but that's just me...or the Ranger protected the bear's Night kill. Either one. Well there goes my whole "maybe there isn't one because only, sort of, Mira died".

I agree with Bubbles' statement about the Seer thing.

As for contributions, are we to take seriously the pronouns in the narration? Because, from what I understand then, we might be dealing with one male and two female were-ducks/wolves. I seem to remember in previous games pronouns were not really used, but here they are. Is there any truth in that? Should we be looking for them like that? I know that doesn't narrow things down a lot, but it could.

Nerwen
03-20-2009, 07:57 AM
I'm thinking no for 2 and 3. They had 24 hours to decide on something and most likely plenty of people to choose from, so I doubt they were under that much pressure. 3 isn't really a smart tactic for them, people who don't talk much can aquire a lot of suspicion so to kill them off wouldn't be overly intelligent. 1 is possible, but it's a scary notion that everything is going exactly as they planned. :eek:

Um... usually when we talk of wolves being under pressure, we mean they that they think people are onto them, not that they can't make up their minds.

//begin rant
function antiDreamTheoryRant(evt:rantEvent):void {
if (fedUpWithOtherPlayers = true) {
evt.rant.continueTyping();
} else {
evt.rant.endTyping();
}
}
//end rant

Mac, that's one of the best rants I've heard in a long time!:) Congratulations!

–Except that sometimes wolves do fall for it, but only when the "Seer" actually names one of them. And this time there was no Night 1 dream before the game started... so if the ducks couldn't work that out...

...come to think of it, maybe they couldn't. I mean... they're only ducks, after all...

Perhaps we should lynch anyone who seems a little, well, featherbrained...?

EDIT: x'd with Lari; clarification.

Feanor of the Peredhil
03-20-2009, 08:46 AM
What to make out of [Fea's parting words]? Just a joke or something more sinister?

Read joke once. Man sees doctor. Depressed. Life, harsh and cruel. Feels alone. World is threatening. Future is terrifying. Doctor says, "Great clown Pagliacci is in town. See him. He should cheer you up." Man starts crying. Says, "I am Pagliacci."

Gwathagor
03-20-2009, 09:29 AM
Incidentally, Shasta is the village prostitute. He stated it clearly before.

That's my line.

the phantom
03-20-2009, 10:15 AM
He deserves a prize.
Your mom deserves a prize.

the phantom
03-20-2009, 10:16 AM
I'm so excited it's giving me chills!
That's what she said.

Mithalwen
03-20-2009, 10:30 AM
What's happened to you lately? Have you consulted a doctor? :)


Well Nogrod, you see, I am not quite myself at the moment, but it is pointless to consult a cardiologist or even a psychiatrist as there is no cure known to medicine. Woe is me....


Your early vote is a bit of a change too....

Well I have had a quick read through and what a lot has happened. I need to digest have a think another quick read and drive 20 miles to a cyber cafe so I shall be gone a little while and back for a long one. I shall not be idle.

the phantom
03-20-2009, 10:32 AM
I've gotta fever! And the only prescription... is more Mithalwen.

Mithalwen
03-20-2009, 10:36 AM
Fever? What a lovely way to burn ;):Merisu:

Mithalwen
03-20-2009, 10:39 AM
and I am sorry not to be in the in crowd and out of the loop but could people please use other players screen names or obvious derivatives thereof?

I am finding this game confusing enough without having to cope with Michael Jackson's chimp and the answer to "what's brown and sticky?":rolleyes:

Lariren Shadow
03-20-2009, 10:42 AM
Stick/Trunk/Trunk of Tree=Mira/Miri
Bubbles=Mac

satansaloser2005
03-20-2009, 10:42 AM
and I am sorry not to be in the in crowd and out of the loop but could people please use other players screen names or obvious derivatives thereof?

I am finding this game confusing enough without having to cope with Michael Jackson's chimp and the answer to "what's brown and sticky?":rolleyes:



Awwwww, poor ickle Mith....*hugs you*


Bubbles=Mac
Stick (or any derivative thereof)=Mira


EDIT: x'd with the ever-helpful Lari :D

Durelin
03-20-2009, 10:46 AM
Fare thee well, Shasta.

As for contributions, are we to take seriously the pronouns in the narration? Because, from what I understand then, we might be dealing with one male and two female were-ducks/wolves

Noooo. Heading in that direction is baaaad. I'm sure Sally's disclaimer from the end of Day 1 still stands:

Also, as a note, there are NO hints in the narrations, and anything I write that may be taken as a clue toward someone's role isn't a clue, it's just how I chose to write the narration.

I still don't get why it's suspicious not to have proper suspects on Day1.

It's not about that, it's about having enough backbone to say you think this person looks the most guilty. Regardless of how uncertain you are, that's who you should vote for, right? It's just too much of a cop-out to say that you don't really think the person is guilty while you vote for them anyway.

Of course I'm one to talk right now after my vote yesterDay... I do wish I had gone with Lommy or Mac just to stick to some standards, but...wasn't sure when I posted where Brinn was going and if Gwath's vote counted (until he came back and re-posted it).

if only his points against Durelin wouldn't make so much sense...

How? His only points as far as I recall were that supposed 'slip', which I must say makes me feel great that everyone has so much confidence in my intelligence and ability to control my fingers (apparently my sense of humour does not translate well to keyboard...my 'ranger' roleplaying that wasn't actually supposed to be a ranger-type is enough proof of that I suppose), and that it is apparently suspicious to look at votes made so far in the day if they are less than a certain number greater than four.

Yes, and then someone else posted that they were wondering too. I'm more inclinded to think that there isn't a werebear, but that's just me...or the Ranger protected the bear's Night kill. Either one.

Well, except I'd expect (heh) that would have been hinted at in the narration. I guess if we really want to stretch it we could say that maybe the werebear just forgot to send in a kill or can't kill every night but I think that would be stretching it too far. :D

Lariren Shadow
03-20-2009, 10:59 AM
Noooo. Heading in that direction is baaaad. I'm sure Sally's disclaimer from the end of Day 1 still stands:

So I can remember excatly where a quote is on a page for a paper but fail to remember rules. That does make more sense though.:rolleyes:

Well, except I'd expect (heh) that would have been hinted at in the narration. I guess if we really want to stretch it we could say that maybe the werebear just forgot to send in a kill or can't kill every night but I think that would be stretching it too far. :D

True, so we probably aren't dealing with a bear.

satansaloser2005
03-20-2009, 10:59 AM
Like I said before, no gender clues in the narrations, kiddos. It's pretty much random, though I believe I stated that I'm referring to all the were-ducks as female, barring perhaps the occasional typo. (I put in the clues about Shasta because he was effectively killed when Mira was)

If there is a ranger save it will be put in the narration, so never fear. As for the werebear question itself, I plead the fifth. You'll just have to find out. :Merisu:

Brinniel
03-20-2009, 11:00 AM
Your mom deserves a prize.
She does. Because she half-made me and I am awesome.

Lariren Shadow
03-20-2009, 11:01 AM
Oh wonderful Moddess we need to stop cross posting.

satansaloser2005
03-20-2009, 11:03 AM
She does. Because she half-made me and I am awesome.

Easy there, Miss Phantom wannabe. ;)


Oh wonderful Moddess we need to stop cross posting.

Heh I know. Well, every game needs a player that continuously crosses with the mod/moddess so I guess you win. How would you like your trophy and platter of cookies shipped?

Rikae
03-20-2009, 11:18 AM
Gah, I can't believe you all missed the fact that Shasta wasn't among the living and Sally had to end up telling you. I noticed it right away; too bad I overslept. Oh well...

Mac's new sig- awww, poor Mac. *hug* *proceeds to annoy him further*

Well, I think I know Fea, Mith, Nerwen and Phantom's assignments - which is, of course, no help at all, since it doesn't mean they don't also have more sinister roles.

Nog, don't worry, you can say it - if I don't have a special posting assignment, I have a role. (don't care who knows it, I'm not gonna play your gosh darn game! I ain't saying I'm better than you are - but maybe I am...*) :D

I actually think too much speculation on the reasons for the kill, at least with a kill like this, is cobblerish. Why? When I'm a baddie, I pretty much always choose a "trail-less" kill (and it doesn't hurt me to say so, since most baddies do the same) unless there is someone screaming gifted. This is not so much because I'm afraid of a trail leading to me - it could always be a bluff - but because it's easy to hide in a village full of loudmouths who are constantly bickering. Yeah.

*person who recognizes this gets cookies. Macaroons.

Kath
03-20-2009, 11:27 AM
Well I'm around but I was going to talk about the fact that sally had said there would be no clues in the narration so looking at pronouns seems pointless and also that surely if there was a werebear and it's kill had been thwarted by a Ranger that would surely be in the narration. However, I just read the post in which sally said all that so now I feel that is rather superfluous. As I have little more to say right now though I thought I'd post it anyway!

Nogrod
03-20-2009, 11:38 AM
As I have little more to say right now though I thought I'd post it anyway!That's my kind of a lass!

But really. Has anyone actually tried to advance our duckhunt toDay? Anyone?

Where are the suspicons, accusations, theories or points that rise your eyebrows and actually are targeted at someone?

Do you really think we can get anywhere if people continue playing like this on a general level? We're on Day2 already so there should be no excuses concerning the lack of stuff to read and think.

I'm off to eat and we shall share the computer, Lommy & me, today. Just fyi.

Mnemosyne
03-20-2009, 11:40 AM
I'm off to eat and we shall share the computer, Lommy & me, today. Just fyi.


All three of you? (:Merisu: at the non-native speaker)

Mithalwen
03-20-2009, 11:56 AM
I am working!!!!.. you would not believe the charts and notes I have .. hopefully will soon be productive...

satansaloser2005
03-20-2009, 11:58 AM
Why aren't you on AIM? A pox on you. That's right, a pox. Chicken pox. For a duck. That'll teach ya. ;)



In other news, Rikae amuses me.

Thinlómien
03-20-2009, 12:36 PM
And this time there was no Night 1 dream before the game started... so if the ducks couldn't work that out...But I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a Daydream just to be "fair"...

It's not about that, it's about having enough backbone to say you think this person looks the most guilty. Regardless of how uncertain you are, that's who you should vote for, right? It's just too much of a cop-out to say that you don't really think the person is guilty while you vote for them anyway.I said she looks the most suspicious! Twisting words, are you? :Merisu:

I actually think too much speculation on the reasons for the kill, at least with a kill like this, is cobblerish.I think it's more cobblerish not to talk about clear evidence like Night kills...

Rikae
03-20-2009, 12:52 PM
If it's clear evidence, O flightless feathered fortune-teller, what does it clearly show? :p

Mithalwen
03-20-2009, 01:25 PM
Lommie is ringing my alarm bells a bit... I don't know if it is just her playing conditions or the fact she is more interested in external things but she really seems different. Somewhat frivolous for someone who normally plays seriously. I don't really like her vote for Lari ... she doesn't seem to give reasons why suspicious but seems to use saying she might vote for her as justification for actually voting for her.

I know I voted for Lari too but I had to go so early.

I would like to read through but there is so much spam...hey ho...

Rikae
03-20-2009, 01:30 PM
I know something you don't know... I know something you don't know... hahahahahahaha! :D

I know something you don't know about somebody's role! Xe likes skipping silmarils and long walks on the beach... three guesses... :p

wilwarin538
03-20-2009, 01:32 PM
Where are the suspicons, accusations, theories or points that rise your eyebrows and actually are targeted at someone?

Uhm, ok....I'll return shortly with some quotes and such to back this all up, but for now this is my starting list, subject to change:

The list of people who confuse the heck out of me:

Fea
Nerwen
Nilp


The list of people who I have absolutely no clue about:

Izzy
Mith
Kath
Mac
Nienna


The list of people I'm pretty sure about:

Lommy
Rikae
Brinn
Nogrod


The list ofpeople I suspect most at this time:

Gwath
Lari
Dury


Be back soonish with more detail...

X'posted: Rikae and Mith

Mithalwen
03-20-2009, 01:42 PM
Rikae dear, I don't think you are a duck but you might be a cobbler.. what has Maglor got to do with this..... ?

Mnemosyne
03-20-2009, 01:44 PM
To Mith: Quenya.

To the High Lady Moddess: You're not the boss of me neener neener so there. :p Just getting off the computer to spend some quality time with my RadioLotR since you won't. *pouts*

Mithalwen
03-20-2009, 01:47 PM
Ah I see.... I suppose Macalaure is Quenya for Maglor....?

I am only mad North by Northwest ... when the wind is southerly I can tell a hawk from a handsaw...

the phantom
03-20-2009, 01:48 PM
I know something you don't know... I know something you don't know...
Your mom knows something you don't know.

satansaloser2005
03-20-2009, 01:49 PM
To Mith: Quenya.

To the High Lady Moddess: You're not the boss of me neener neener so there. :p Just getting off the computer to spend some quality time with my RadioLotR since you won't. *pouts*

To Wilwa: How did you do bullets? I've never been able to....*sees control panel at top of post*....never mind.

*facepalms*

To Her Duckness: I was going to suggest an evening of Rings, Who, and foodstuffs come Monday to celebrate the recovery of my TARDIS from his traumatizing incident a couple weeks back. But if you'd rather do it alone.... ;)

Macalaure
03-20-2009, 01:51 PM
His only points as far as I recall were that supposed 'slip'Not really. If it wasn't more, I would ignore it. It's the fishy way you reacted to Nogrod's accusation.

But really. Has anyone actually tried to advance our duckhunt toDay? Anyone?

The gentleman doth complain to much. :rolleyes:

But really, at night you make a trailless kill and at day you bicker about the lack of analysis. Tsk. :p

I know something you don't know about somebody's role! Xe likes skipping silmarils and long walks on the beach... three guesses...

*raises eyebrow*

I think I need to make a list of players and how I feel about them. I'm confused.

the phantom
03-20-2009, 01:53 PM
I'm confused.
Yo' momma's confused.

satansaloser2005
03-20-2009, 01:55 PM
Yo' momma's confused.

*facepalms*



Ow. I need some aspirin. Back when I can stand to look at the thread again.


:p

Nienna
03-20-2009, 01:56 PM
In high school Lari was on the swim team. I wonder if she liked to be in the water or above it.

Rikae could stop beating the nail on the head.

That is all for now... more later I promise.

the phantom
03-20-2009, 01:56 PM
Ow. I need some aspirin.
That's what she said.

Mnemosyne
03-20-2009, 01:58 PM
To Her Moddess: There is no such thing as too much Rings, alone or in company. I just figured you wouldn't want to do four hours straight. Not to worry; I'm willing to repeat episodes (heck, I've already repeated 2/3 of the ones we've listened to).

And now I'm getting out of here before Esty sics a skwerl on us.

(That's what she said)

satansaloser2005
03-20-2009, 02:02 PM
To Her Moddess: There is no such thing as too much Rings, alone or in company. I just figured you wouldn't want to do four hours straight. Not to worry; I'm willing to repeat episodes (heck, I've already repeated 2/3 of the ones we've listened to).

And now I'm getting out of here before Esty sics a skwerl on us.

(That's what she said)

Heh, I'm sure you would.


Oi! That's Phantom's line, you pox-ridden wench! :eek:


:Merisu:

Macalaure
03-20-2009, 02:07 PM
Tending suspicious:
Durelin - what I and Nogrod said before.
Nogrod - bad feeling there. I highly doubt both Nogrod and Durelin are ducks, which doesn't make it easier for me.

Unknown:
Fea - strict posting requirements, presumably. It's easy to hide behind those, though.
Brinn - hindered by requirements and/or real life. Impossible to tell.
Mith - no way of knowing.
Kath - ditto.
Nienna - I don't have any idea.
Gwath - we all know it's hard to get a grip on the game the first two days, but come on, try!
Lommy - I can usually figure her out fairly well, but not this time. That could mean she's evil, or that it's just her role/requirement.
Nilp - *shrug*

Tending innocent:
wilwa - seems most sane of everybody.
Izzy - seemed innocent so far.
Nerwen - no alarms (which, since I tend to suspect her when she's innocent, doesn't put me at ease).
Rikae - no reason to suspect.
Lari - pretty confident of her innocence.


Well this wasn't as enlightening as I thought. At least I now know who I won't vote for. The game setup allows too many people to get away with little, which leaves us completely in the dark about them. Eventually we have to go start lynch them. Come on folks, I'm not exactly keeping up with mine, and I haven't been modfired yet. ;)

Yo' momma's confused.And yo' momma's a hamster.

satansaloser2005
03-20-2009, 02:08 PM
....And your father smells of elderberries. Quite nasty, really.

Gwathagor
03-20-2009, 02:10 PM
I die, Gwathagor;
The potent poison quite o'er-crows my spirit:
I cannot live to hear the news from England;
But I do prophesy the election lights
On Durelin: she has my dying voice;
So tell her, with the occurrents, more and less,
Which have solicited. The rest is silence.

Hey Durelin, what did Shasta mean by this?

If it's clear evidence, O flightless feathered fortune-teller, what does it clearly show? :p

I think she means it's clearly evidence.

Mithalwen
03-20-2009, 02:10 PM
Silly English K-niggits...

Isabellkya
03-20-2009, 02:11 PM
Mac is a duck. Because he makes sense - which means he is a duck.

Nog is a duck. He doesn't make sense, so he is a duck. I wonder if his "requirement" was to not initiate analyses. So that is why he is whing-ing so much; because he has to wait for the rest of us to get to it. But as a collective - we've been spam.

I think I've spotted the Seer, but I'm not telling.

Nerwen is the Cobbler.

Of Brin, Wilwa, Lari and Nienna - you've got your third duck. Gut says Nienna; but why trust the gut? It only speaks, when not spoken to. Could be because 'tis beyond lunchtime.

Rikae, Lommy and Mith - there is something funny. Not humor funny. But weird funny.


Okay. Now I'm off to lunch.


X'd since Nienna's #468.

Gwathagor
03-20-2009, 02:12 PM
Gwath - we all know it's hard to get a grip on the game the first two days, but come on, try!



What do you want me to do, post a list or something?

wilwarin538
03-20-2009, 02:12 PM
To Wilwa: How did you do bullets? I've never been able to

It's cause I have mad skills :p.....haha, actually I just figured out how to do them yesterDay, quite fun indeed....

Okee, down to business. My 3 suspects as I listed above: Durelin, Lari and Gwath. I went back and skimmed through some stuff and I found the most against Gwath (see below). Dury is purely an eerie creepy bad feeling, I don't think I'll be voting her toDay, but I wouldn't be against the idea either, we'll see how it all goes.

Lari, well, she posts alot, like a lot....and I couldn't find much that was really interesting. She just makes me uneasy and I'm very tempted to vote for her toDay.

Now Gwath, I saw this and went "oh!", let me know if it's already been mentioned and I just didn't see it:


Suspicious
Rikae
Nogrod
Sally!

Sort of Suspicious
Legate
Durelin

...

Legate's vote for Durelin looks pretty bad to me, but I don't think that a clever wolf would do anything quite that obvious.

...

++Legate

k, so he puts Legate on his "sort of" suspicious list, says he's too obvious to be a wolf but then votes for him anyway?? I mean I know I voted for him without any hard core suspicion, but I admitted that. Here he basically says that there are 2 other people he is more suspicious of, that Legate's unlikely to be a wolf, and then votes him anyways. o.O So yeah, I don't like that....so I stopped reading when I saw this, wanted to comment first, will now be going back and reading all of his posts once more. Unless someone else does something crazy I think I'll be voting for Gwath.

edit: wow, crossposted since Mac...not liking Gwath's attitude, what's he got against lists??

edit: Legate's a dude...oopsies

Gwathagor
03-20-2009, 02:13 PM
I think I've spotted the Seer, but I'm not telling.



I bet you haven't.

Rikae
03-20-2009, 02:13 PM
Lynch:

Lommy.
Nilp & Mith - because they asked for it. Plus, Mith is continuing with the quotes. Naughty Mith.
Nogrod - because he foolishly forgot - everything I say is a lie.
Nienna
Mnemi - there is good off-topic and there is bad off-topic.

Don't lynch:

Me
Maglor
Fea
Lari

Do any members of my generation remember that game that used to be packaged with... I think... Super Mario? I was always pretty good at that game.

Rikae
03-20-2009, 02:17 PM
Now Legate is female? :D

satansaloser2005
03-20-2009, 02:17 PM
It's cause I have mad skills :p.....haha, actually I just figured out how to do them yesterDay, quite fun indeed....

Okee, down to business. My 3 suspects as I listed above: Durelin, Lari and Gwath. I went back and skimmed through some stuff and I found the most against Gwath (see below). Dury is purely an eerie creepy bad feeling, I don't think I'll be voting her toDay, but I wouldn't be against the idea either, we'll see how it all goes.

Lari, well, she posts alot, like a lot....and I couldn't find much that was really interesting. She just makes me uneasy and I'm very tempted to vote for her toDay.

Now Gwath, I saw this and went "oh!", let me know if it's already been mentioned and I just didn't see it:



k, so he puts Legate on his "sort of" suspicious list, says she's too obvious to be a wolf but then votes for her anyway?? I mean I know I voted for her without any hard core suspicion, but I admitted that. Here he basically says that there are 2 other people he is more suspicious of, that Legate's unlikely to be a wolf, and then votes her anyways. o.O So yeah, I don't like that....so I stopped reading when I saw this, wanted to comment first, will now be going back and reading all of his posts once more. Unless someone else does something crazy I think I'll be voting for Gwath.

edit: wow, crossposted since Mac...not liking Gwath's attitude, what's he got against lists??



The 'she' you're speaking of above....do you mean Legate? Or someone else? 'Cause I'm confused. Well, that and Legate's a guy, so I'm REALLY confused.

Gwathagor
03-20-2009, 02:17 PM
edit: wow, crossposted with many many...not liking Gwath's attitude, what's he got against lists??

Lists are over-used - but they have their place. Mostly I was just being belligerent.

Regarding Legate:
First, Legate's is a HE, not a she. :) Second, I don't have a good explanation for the inconsistency you noticed in the post where I voted for him. You're right; if I found him suspicious enough to vote for, he should have been in my "Suspicious" category. I'm not sure why he wasn't.

Rikae
03-20-2009, 02:18 PM
Oh, and I'm pretty sure my momma is female, too, phantom, just to clear that up. :p

Isabellkya
03-20-2009, 02:18 PM
*shrug*
Could be, because there is no seer Gwath.

Durelin
03-20-2009, 02:19 PM
But really. Has anyone actually tried to advance our duckhunt toDay? Anyone?

Have you? :Merisu:

People are either playing the "I'm confused and don't know what's going on" role or the "I'm so on top of things I can complain about how stupid everyone is" role and it's driving me nuts.

Lommie is ringing my alarm bells a bit... I don't know if it is just her playing conditions or the fact she is more interested in external things but she really seems different. Somewhat frivolous for someone who normally plays seriously.

This is what's bothering me about Lommy, too. But I'm not sure if she'd try to be less frivolous and careless seeming if she was a wolf. She seems a bit more herself toDay than yesterDay, maybe because she was getting a little bit of attention... Last time I thought because she was easy-going she must be innocent I was dead wrong. But frivolous better describes her right now.

I'd like to see the Mac-Nogrod fight continue, perhaps in a cage match...but it'll probably end up a waste of time. Mac bothers me right now, but I'm realizing that he can play it very cooly as a wolf and I would not at all describe him as 'cool' right now (oh you know what i mean!). Nogrod is so darned Nogrod but like...more. It's really driving me crazy.

Rikae seems especially Rikae-ish.

Nilp is especially Nilp-ish, but grumpier. It's a bad idea to ignore him (in a suspicion sense, dear, promise), but I always tend to.

wilwa seems pretty darned cautious and aiming to please.

Kath has been quiet even for Kath.

Gwath and Nienna jumped on Legate very quickly yesterDay. Unfortunately I can see them being ordos or wolves jumping on something to justify a vote.

I like Nerwen right now. I don't know why. Maybe I just like her attitude. When she's not cheering, anyway.

I also feel very good about Mith.

I have absolutely no clue about Fea. It's a little hard to be able to tell anything about her in this game...

I kinda forgot about Brinniel. She's been very light on posting, as well, and is doing more bantering than usual I think. What the heck does that mean? That's her assignment?

Izzy...she's pretty cool. And I feel good about that right now.

Oh, hey, now that Lari's around - you have any particular reason for voting for me yesterDay?

(Edit: Crossed with a bunch)

Mithalwen
03-20-2009, 02:21 PM
Oh Rikae.. don't lynch me or my son . Lommy and Nienna are much better bets according to my deductions.

I'll give Nogrod a break for once and suggest we let him live a while. Especially if we lynch Lommy he will have a computer to himself for the weekend.

I think I agree with your no lynch list but I am having a Donald Rumsfeld moment :D

Durelin
03-20-2009, 02:22 PM
Dury is purely an eerie creepy bad feeling

I'm rather flattered by this.

Isabellkya
03-20-2009, 02:23 PM
Sally and Mnemi... or anyone else for that matter.
Should make a video of them Duckhunting this game.
I think it would be funny.

pew pew
pew



Okay. Really gone now.

satansaloser2005
03-20-2009, 02:24 PM
Sally and Mnemi... or anyone else for that matter.
Should make a video of them Duckhunting this game.
I think it would be funny.

pew pew
pew



Okay. Really gone now.



Oooo I am intrigued by this idea.

Hehe. Mnemo, two words. Flipping. Swans.


EDIT: I lied. Four words. Stop. Day. Flipping. Swans.

Macalaure
03-20-2009, 02:25 PM
What do you want me to do, post a list or something?

What about a post with more than one sentence? ;)

Ah, I see, good boy. Welcome to the dark side. *hands a cookie*


So many people in this game seem to know more than I do. *sulk*
Well, or claim to. I don't trust any of those. They conspire against us! They should be lynched! Who's with me? :)

Rikae
03-20-2009, 02:30 PM
Yep, Mac, let's just do it like this:

++Someone-who-knows-more-than-Mac

and let the modgoddess sort it out. ;)

And that before should have said "included with Super Mario" if it didn't (can't go back and check, conversation going too fast).

Durelin
03-20-2009, 02:32 PM
Completely missed this:

Hey Durelin, what did Shasta mean by this? (referring to Shata's Hamlet Death)

I could ask you the same thing? That's Hamlet's dying little speechy, right? *Googles* He's talking to Horatio, whose name he replaced with yours. And Fortinbras is the name he replaced with mine. So you're his erm...friend (*cough*) and I'm his foil?

I'm guessing he stuck our names in there cause we were the ones around posting at the time. If you want to analyze it, feel free, but my post before last was the last long one from me for a while.

Gwathagor
03-20-2009, 02:36 PM
Ah, I see, good boy. Welcome to the dark side. *hands a cookie*


Thank you...excuse me?

Durelin
03-20-2009, 02:38 PM
I guess we're just going to have to lynch everyone who likes cookies.

Oh noes!

Gwathagor
03-20-2009, 02:39 PM
Completely missed this:



I could ask you the same thing? That's Hamlet's dying little speechy, right? *Googles* He's talking to Horatio, whose name he replaced with yours. And Fortinbras is the name he replaced with mine. So you're his erm...friend (*cough*) and I'm his foil?

I'm guessing he stuck our names in there cause we were the ones around posting at the time. If you want to analyze it, feel free, but my post before last was the last long one from me for a while.

Hmm, ok. It seemed like there was something else going on there, something to do with roles or behaviors or such, but I guess not.

Brinniel
03-20-2009, 02:43 PM
What about a post with more than one sentence?
I'll second that. You could analyse someone for a change.

Brinniel
03-20-2009, 02:50 PM
I guess we're just going to have to lynch everyone who likes cookies.
Sounds like a plan to me. I'm beginning to tire of cookies. I still have some leftover from Valentine's Day (no joke).

Gwathagor
03-20-2009, 02:52 PM
once your Gwathiepoo ends up under the slightest pressure

...don't call me that...

Rikae
03-20-2009, 02:55 PM
Actually (and if I'm correct, my above vote doesn't count, not being bolded) I wouldn't oppose lynching Gwathling just for the "do you want me to make a list" remark. :mad: