Game Thread: WW LXXXVI - The Halls of Mandos

[Nerwen]

Nope. A Glorfindel reveal, a Hunter reveal, and a Seer reveal that encompassed the revelation of a separate Hunter claim...

...have to get these things right at this point, puppy...

Puppy yourself.:p I only just got in and haven't had to time to read properly.

EDIT:X'd with phantom.

[the phantom]

phantom - you said, today, I had been in your last three suspects to be Glorfindel/a Hunter. Was this just an obscuration of your knowledge's full extent or did you mean something specific by it?
It was partly obscuration, but also a bit of truth as I did know you but I didn't know the Hunter, but believed I had it narrowed down to two- Green or Boro. Yes, indeed Boro was at the same time a suspect and a Hunter suspect. Whatever he was I felt he had a role, and the thought certainly crossed my mind that I was mistaking our other Gifted for a Wolf. It is this reason that I often purposefully try to lynch Ordos on Day 1 even as an innocent, because early in the game I can never tell apart the vibes I'm getting. I figure the person is something special, I just don't know if good or bad. It sort of annoyed me to pick Boro for a dream so late in a contest, as I nearly always feel I have him sorted out by Day 3 or so.

[Anguirel]

Well then phantom, I'd put sally out of your sights for the present. Unless we have a full pack against us - which I actually think would still be just possible to beat - her guilt relies on what seems to me one or both of two really out there wolf-for-wolf votes. So if you regard the intact pack as a "loss", stay optimistic and avoid her. That also, as your gloomy realpolitik observes, means we can channel her vote...

I wouldn't dream of her tonight if you want to get that wolf for your Seer record, either, but of course that's up to you.

I'm come round to your point of view about the non validity of Nerwen's story but goodness it was bold. Added by edit, forsooth...

Sally seems willing to help bag Nerwen. Can't myself say I mind that as a genuine wolf-pursual option. It is quite likely she's guilty. There are definitely more than one of these critters even if not the full bunch.

But I would be willing after all to settle for yonder Undomiel with her stylish, but probably non functional hunting kit...

[satansaloser2005]

This chart assumes the legitimacy of Phantom’s seer reveal. If he’s lying, I just wasted my time and will personally kill him when I see him tomorrow. Fair warning, Prince Pudding. ;)

Dead players are italicized, moddess/dead-confirmed roles are bolded. Phantom-confirmed roles are dipped in chocolate and dusted with powdered sugar….but there’s no tag for that. :(

PLAYERS
Shasta: lover
Nog: probable wolf (I believe he’d want to make his pack’s presence known on the dead thread)
Agan: lover
Glirdan: ordo
Green: unknown
Elra: wolf or cobbler
Manwe: unknown, likely ordo (my assumption, given that Day One was, as usual, a mess, though I won’t swear by this)
Nerwen: unknown
Lottie: unknown
Wilwa: ordo
Legate: cobbler
Lommie: non-wolf (innocent or cobbler)
Nessa: unknown
BG: ordo (formerly Glorfindel, if Ang can be believed)
Sally: ordo (and just darn adorable)
Phantom: seer
Boro: hunter
Mith: innocent of some kind
Ang: ranger
Fea: innocent


That means of the roles, we have the following unaccounted for….

Three wolves, two cobblers, and four ordos.

Assuming Phantom is telling the truth, it’s impossible for all three wolves to be alive; they’d have hopped onto the vote for Phantom by now and the game would be over. Thus, one of the following dead must be a wolf:

Nog, Lottie, Nessa

Obviously they can’t all be wolves, because, again, the game would be over. Adding in the living unknown players, our wolf pack must contain three of the following players:

Nog, Green, Elra, Manwe, Nerwen, Lottie, Nessa

That makes our lynch choice for toDay one of the following:

Green, Elra, and Nerwen


We’re betting a lot on Phantom’s information. I say we have Elra keep her pick on Phantom and test their claims. If Elra is telling the truth, we’ll be out a phabbler or a pholf, and if she’s lying, we’ll have lynched us some sort of baddie. My hunch rests with the latter, but that’s my prerogative.


What do you say, folks? Shall we get ourselves a bucketload of tasty information toDay?



A closing note: Yes, I know, I’m not a confirmed innocent. But I’m hardly going to suggest I be a lynch choice, especially since I’m an ordo, am I? I think not. So nyah.

Another note: I just auto-saved this so I could post it from my phone, not caring what the title was, and Word just took the first few words for the title. Thus, I have a file on my phone called “this chart assumes the legitimacy of Phantom.”

EDIT: x'd since my last

[elronds_daughter]

Right.

Must go now, so I'm voting.

++ phantom

Because I know he's lying. And if you kill me he dies anyways.

[the phantom]

Question- if we three vote for Nerwen and she is a Wolf, what is to stop her from voting with Daughter for Boro and possibly killing both him and me?

(x-post with vote, which makes my comment useless)

[Nerwen]

Phantom, your account of yourself does actually make quite a lot of sense... All the same, your actions for quite a while back have not looked all that innocent, and following a false Seer would do for us. So I guess the best thing would indeed be to test your respective claims by lynching Elra

Only, this is also true: I agree that Daughter is a good compromise candidate (for those who doubt my claim), but of course the primary problem with that from my perspective is I know she's false and it seems to me that she's a more likely Cobbler than Wolf. A false declaration of Hunterhood from a Wolf pretty well invites the real Hunter to kill him, doesn't it?

But still, one of you has to be evil, and that's probably the best option right now. (Unless of course Boro turns up and anti-reveals.)

EDIT:X'd since phantom #752.

[the phantom]

Unless I am mistaken, this is where the votes stand:

Boro- 1
Sally- 1
Phantom- 2

Left to vote:
Sally
Nerwen
Phantom
Ang

[satansaloser2005]

I'm done discussing.

++Elra


One way or another, a baddie's going to die toDay.

[Anguirel]

Assuming Phantom is telling the truth, it’s impossible for all three wolves to be alive; they’d have hopped onto the vote for Phantom by now and the game would be over.


They could still do so. I would relish that moment were I among them...

Oh well. I'm without sin, I cast the first stone:

++ 'ARWEN UNDOMIEL', OR SISTER THEREOF, CERTAINLY NOT CELEBRIAN, IN ANY CASE, ELROND'S DAUGHTER

she has this advantage too - I doubt the extra wote went to her. Quite likely to have gone to Nerwen

"But come! There is no time for further news. Since you are here we must risk the peril of the Road and go. There are some behind us, and when they find your trail upon the Road they will ride after us like the wind. And they are not all. Where the others may be, I do not know. I fear that we may find the Ford is already held against us."

EDIT: ha, I failed to cast the first stone. I'll leave the second one as a token of the Bridge of Mitheithel, then

[the phantom]

Ah, well, debate over I see.

[Nerwen]

I'm come round to your point of view about the non validity of Nerwen's story but goodness it was bold..
What are you talking about?

EDIT:x'd since last post.

[satansaloser2005]

Also, I would like the dead to investigate Lottie next, please.

[the phantom]

So, I am now tied in votes with Daughter.

Nerwen and I still have to vote. Bleh. If you guys left me hanging out to dry with a Nerwolf I will not be pleased.

[Glirdan]

Okay, so I just got home and saw all the exctiement I missed and wow.....That's honestly all I have to say....I am completely flabbergasted.

[Anguirel]

sorry Nerwen, I meant Elrond's up there. Weary y'know. Hard evening's ride. And further to gallop to protect you folk

[satansaloser2005]

Phantom, if you are a cobbler and have just tricked us into killing the real hunter to take you down to bring us to end game, here's to you, mate. Your pack should be proud.


I really just wanted to put that out there just in case. ;)


ETA: Oooo! A Pie! :D

[Nerwen]

Anyway–

++Elra

[the phantom]

Sally- saying stuff like that just makes me really want to suspect you. I mean it's too late to vote you at this point obviously, but it's like you're trying to convince Nerwen to doubt me, even though you went along with me. Clever positioning.

(edit: x-post with vote)

[Anguirel]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DOB8TdpOodI/S9vf7UCsG0I/AAAAAAAAAm0/j5LTfeukEy8/s1600/white+horse.jpg

Noro lim, Asfaloth!

[Nerwen]

Phantom, if you are a cobbler and have just tricked us into killing the real hunter to take you down to bring us to end game, here's to you, mate. Your pack should be proud.


I really just wanted to put that out there just in case. ;)


ETA: Oooo! A Pie! :D
Oh dear, that sounds really quite wolfy...:eek:

EDIT:X'd with phantom and Anguirel.

[the phantom]

Oh dear, that sounds really quite wolfy... :eek:
Yeah, no kidding.

[satansaloser2005]

Sally- saying stuff like that just makes me really want to suspect you. I mean it's too late to vote you at this point obviously, but it's like you're trying to convince Nerwen to doubt me, even though you went along with me. Clever positioning.

(edit: x-post with vote)

Quite the contrary. I'm just going to feel completely stupid if you're lying and I DIDN'T doubt you, hence my comment. And for what it's worth, dear, Kath can still trust me. I'm an ordo.

[Anguirel]

By the way everyone, I'd completely forgotten how amazingly cool I was until this game. I mean, I'm one of the coolest Elves ever. I'm also really good at heroically saving people.

No wonder they call me "The Beloved", right?

have any of you ever typed "really cool white horse" into Google Images? So rewarding

[Nerwen]

And now I suppose we just wait.

[Anguirel]

I could bring you more pictures of my horsey! Or I could sing to you, you know. I'm also really really good at singing. Back in Gondolin we had an amazing folk band called "Goldilocks and the House of Flowers", which was, in addition to being movingly beautiful, ruggedly heterosexual.

[Glirdan]

Wait, doesn't phantom still need to vote??

[the phantom]

Quite the contrary. I'm just going to feel completely stupid if you're lying and I DIDN'T doubt you, hence my comment.
But if I'm lying I pretty well screwed my fellows, didn't I? I took quite clear sides today, and if I'm lying then I'm dead. One Wolf down, and the rest will follow soon, because your Cobbler accusation doesn't make sense as I could've just sat back and let myself be killed, or done a poor false reveal. If I'm lying then I'm a Wolf and just totally killed my pack. The fact that you accused Cobbler rather than Wolf... It's back to the whole, "Easier for Wolves to accuse Cobblers" theory.

Anyway, no more reason to hold off on voting...

++ Daughter

[Nerwen]

By the way everyone, I'd completely forgotten how amazingly cool I was until this game. I mean, I'm one of the coolest Elves ever. I'm also really good at heroically saving people.
Yes, you are.:smokin:

EDIT:X'd since last post.

[satansaloser2005]

By the way everyone, I'd completely forgotten how amazingly cool I was until this game. I mean, I'm one of the coolest Elves ever. I'm also really good at heroically saving people.

No wonder they call me "The Beloved", right?

have any of you ever typed "really cool white horse" into Google Images? So rewarding

There's a that's what she said joke in there somewhere, but I'm just too lazy.

No more posties from me. I'm getting ready for bed. Phantom, see you tomorrow. Everyone else, hopefully toMorrow as well. Good night.

[Anguirel]

You know why I hanged Arwen? Not for wolvery. Not for murder.

for arrant horse-theft.

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/img/daily/630/livht_l.jpg

[Glirdan]

Bahahaha!!! That just made my night Angu!!! :D

[Anguirel]

she even put a bridle on him!!

[the phantom]

Everyone tune in tomorrow to see who I dreamed of. Shudder in your boots, Wolvsies.

Ang- best of luck.

[Rikae]

Game over.

Narration will be posted in a few minutes...

[Macalaure]

The dwindling living grew nervous this day, not knowing whether they were getting closer to the completion of their task to root out the evil among them or not. New leaders emerged inside the group, claiming powers the others could only dream of.

"I am Glorfindel," said Ang "I do not fear the evil creatures and will protect you at night, as I did before!"

"I am the hunter," said elronds_daughter "and should the wolves come for me, I shall take one of them with me!"

"I am the seer," claimed the phantom "and I have the power to see who it is among us that seek our death!"

"Although," he added "so far me and the Lord Lórien haven't exactly been seeing eye to eye. elronds_daughter is lying, though!"

"Let's lynch her!" everyone agreed.

The mighty Glorfindel, having his powers enhanced by the dead, approached her, sword unsheathed. But elronds_daughter escaped his attack and jumped on the phantom, killing him with swift blows. The phantom passed away, and his cold, gurgling laughter sent shivers down the innocent spines. Anguirel did not hesitate and ended elronds_daughter's life.

Then more laughter was heard, and Glorfindel felt the pain of sharp teeth in his neck. As he fell to the ground, dying, he saw the grisly shape of Glirdan above him.

Boromir, who had barely been conscious during the day for all his sorrow, was attacked by the lovely Greenie, who did not look as lovely anymore, and her gaping maw tore him to his death.

Then Sally and Nerwen looked at each other, and before Sally could take up her sword, Nerwen had leapt upon her and shredded Sally's skin into pieces with her claws.

Sally's last words were left unheard for the howling of the victorious wolves.

[Rikae]

The Living:

Glirdan - an easy wolf to spot.
A Little Green - her usual innocentish wolf self.
Nerwen - the least suspicious of the girls.


The Dead:

Rikae - clearly harbored latent evil tendencies to design such a diabolical game.
Macalaure - evil enough not to try and stop Rikae's demonic plans.
Mänwe - who else would be lynched on Day 1 but an ordo?
Nogrod - the poor, long-suffering SEER.
Blind Guardian - former Glorfindel gone ordo.
Feanor of the Peredhil - never ordinary, but lacking a special role.
Aganzir - Beren after all.
Shastanis Althreduin - and that would make xem Lúthien.
Thinlómien - not a wolf, just a COBBLER.
Nessa Telrunya - not a wolf or a cobbler, but controversial nonetheless.
Loslote - not a cobbler, but an ORDO after all.
Mithalwen - beloved rescued ordo.
wilwarin538 - ordinary innocent
Legate of Amon Lanc - cobbler
elronds_daughter - single-minded hunter who, after all, knew evil when she saw it (just not wolvery)
the phantom - Auntie Elra's award-winning phabbler-cobbler.
Boromir88 - not hunter, not cobbler, and I hear he's not 88 either. ORDO.
satansaloser2005 - the very wolfish ordo.
Anguirel - Glorfindel.

Game over.
Wolves win!
Cobblers win!

Everybody may now discuss the game in the dead thread (most of you being dead, and the rest possessed).