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Legate of Amon Lanc
09-01-2009, 02:46 AM
Okay, I am really wondering about this one. Let me try a blind shot: Haldir?

The Might
09-01-2009, 06:32 AM
You mean accents as in different manners of pronunciation, right?

EDIT: Maybe someone like Pengolodh would know a lot about accents.

Mnemosyne
09-01-2009, 09:56 AM
No to either, although I can bet that Pengolodh would be good at such. This one's based off an explicit canonical statement.

The Might
09-01-2009, 12:04 PM
Well... you say it is a canonical statement... the only thing that could fit this and that came to mind is Beregond's statement to the hobbits:

Hobbit?’ said Beregond.
‘That is what we call ourselves,’ said Pippin.
‘I am glad to learn it,’ said Beregond, ‘for now I may say that strange accents do not mar fair speech, and hobbits are a fair-spoken folk.

The fact that Beregond could say that strange accents do not mar fair speech means that he had some insight into accents. Anyway, besides him I can't think of anyone else, except maybe some Elvish loremaster.

Legate of Amon Lanc
09-01-2009, 04:04 PM
Okay, so let me make just a blind shot, in case Miggy didn't get it right and until I think of something better. How about Galadriel? All this pronounciation of Dwarven names or whatnot? But that's probably not it anyway.

Mnemosyne
09-01-2009, 04:06 PM
To clarify:

By "good at accents" I don't mean being able to recognize them: I mean being able to mimic them.

And you're looking in the wrong part of the text for the statement.

Morsul the Dark
09-01-2009, 09:13 PM
Saruman;

Gandalf to Gimli "And how would you know that? he could like me to you should it suit his purpose his voice(At this point I'm paraphrasing) has a deep magic and power in it.

Mnemosyne
09-02-2009, 12:31 AM
Power, yes.

Accents, not necessarily.

Morsul the Dark
09-02-2009, 06:55 AM
Oh man!... It's there it's there...and it's gone...

Wait it's floating and... Merry I for some unknown reason seem to recall a staement about him copying voices.

Mnemosyne
09-02-2009, 07:31 AM
Oh man!... It's there it's there...and it's gone...

Wait it's floating and... Merry I for some unknown reason seem to recall a staement about him copying voices.

...And I don't. Sorry; if it's there that's not the one I had in mind.

skip spence
09-02-2009, 08:26 AM
Didn't Strider mimic the accent of Bree-landers with some acclaim?

Mnemosyne
09-02-2009, 12:22 PM
Didn't Strider mimic the accent of Bree-landers with some acclaim?

Yes, he did, but that's not who I had in mind--although it might lead you along the right track. I'm looking for a statement that's even more explicit than Frodo's observing that Strider's speech has changed.



If people don't get the person I'm thinking of in a few days I'll yield the floor as that does techinically answer my original question (thus meaning I didn't phrase it specifically enough).

Or I can give more hints.

Folwren
09-03-2009, 06:54 AM
Gandalf, perhaps? He knows a lot of languages and could possibly be able to use the language's different accents, too. I'm thinking particularly of the time when he and the Three Hunters show up at the gates of Edoras, and one of the guards addresses them in the Rohanian tongue.

-- Folwren

Mnemosyne
09-03-2009, 09:26 AM
Gandalf, perhaps? He knows a lot of languages and could possibly be able to use the language's different accents, too. I'm thinking particularly of the time when he and the Three Hunters show up at the gates of Edoras, and one of the guards addresses them in the Rohanian tongue.

-- Folwren

But we don't know how good that accent was.

Everyone so far has been looking in the wrong place in the text, even if they've been looking in the correct book.

Legate of Amon Lanc
09-03-2009, 09:31 AM
Heck, from the beginning I have been thinking only about Frodo's meeting with Gildor. But I think there's nothing there about accents, either.

Mnemosyne
09-04-2009, 02:46 PM
Don't look in the text of LotR itself.

Nerwen
09-06-2009, 04:04 AM
What about Frodo? In Appendix E–

Frodo is said to have shown "great skill with foreign sounds".

Mnemosyne
09-06-2009, 09:11 AM
And we have a winner!

Take the thread, Nerwen.

The Saucepan Man
10-07-2009, 05:23 PM
Nerwen?

The Might
03-13-2010, 09:53 AM
Thought I'd bump this one again, if no new question is asked by Nerwen I'll come up with something. ;)