The Greatest Warrior...

[Hammerhand]

It's quite hard to judge who would be the best isn't it, given that they all fought and fell to different people.

I think i'd probably back Húrin, Fingolfin, Ecthelion, Turgon (in his younger days) or maybe Tuor.

I think the Dwarves are underrated as far as brawling goes, there a couple that seem to be pretty clued up for battle. "Greatest" here means the most capable of destroying their opponant. It's tricky... i never thought of Ents, lol i would imagine Treebeard would be pretty lethal, as we read in the Two Towers!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Hammerhand

It's tricky... i never thought of Ents, lol i would imagine Treebeard would be pretty lethal, as we read in the Two Towers!

Well, but can you imagine him facing a balrog or a dragon?

But, here we are, apart from the rare occassion of Isengard, I don't remember any moment when the Ents would be drawn to such a situation. Hm, interesting now... I never thought how rare and significant the attack on Isengard was... never before and never after anything like that happened, if I'm not gravely mistaken...

If it's "the most capable of destroying their opponent" as you say, then I stick with Fingolfin. Vala is the most dangerous opponent, and yet he managed to wound him quite enough...

[Hammerhand]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Well, but can you imagine him facing a balrog or a dragon?

But, here we are, apart from the rare occassion of Isengard, I don't remember any moment when the Ents would be drawn to such a situation. Hm, interesting now... I never thought how rare and significant the attack on Isengard was... never before and never after anything like that happened, if I'm not gravely mistaken...

If it's "the most capable of destroying their opponent" as you say, then I stick with Fingolfin. Vala is the most dangerous opponent, and yet he managed to wound him quite enough...

I suppose Glaurung would be one of them.. seeing as he isn't Maiar or Valar.

I'm sure you know what i mean when you have attractions to different characters for different reasons - and i don't mean in a science fiction lust sort of way - example, Húrin's slaying of the 70 trolls, just to defy Morgoth and give Turgon time to withdraw. The death of Huor in that scene was a kick to the crotch, but Húrin's unwavering effort forces you to admire him.

Fingolfin in his rage Vs Morgoth, need i say any more?

Ecthelion because he was the one to slay Gothmog and was reputed to have fought valiantly alongside his men not only at Nirnaeth Arnoediad but at the fall of Gondolin also.

I don't know why but i've always favoured the charcter of Cirdan... not that i think he would get particularly far with a sword.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Hammerhand

I suppose Glaurung would be one of them.. seeing as he isn't Maiar or Valar.

Well, I won't classify Glaurung... you see, the means by which he fights are completely different... not "conventional"... the same as with Treebeard... say, I would limit the choice to just Men, Elves, Dwarves, Dúnedain and Hobbits. Otherwise you could say even Mumak... but the title reads "the greatest WARRIOR" and I won't label Glaurung as "Warrior", nor Treebeard... Warrior is someone who wields a sword or some other weapon, or at least wrestles... Glaurung bites and... Treebeard does something strange with his arms, but he surely does not wrestle...

[Bêthberry]

If it's "the most capable of destroying their opponent"

Warrior is someone who wields a sword or some other weapon,

EOWYN

[Hammerhand]

Originally Posted by Bêthberry

EOWYN

NO! lol!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Well, I of course assumed, that the words

the most capable of destroying their opponent

do not mean one particular opponent, but any opponent. You cannot say Farmer Maggot was the greatest warrior just because he was the most capable of destroying his opponent, who was a cockroach, whom he totally crushed under his foot and almost nothing remained of him. Not even Fingolfin managed to crush Morgoth into such little pieces. But generally, Farmer Maggot, nor Éowyn I believe, would be able to face, let's say, Morgoth.

Though, when we speak of it, Éowyn is a good choice. I believe she could be able to stand maybe even up to Glaurung, or Sauron (though in both cases with some difficulties, no doubt). But I don't believe she would (in contrary to my nominated champion Fingolfin) even scratch Morgoth.

[Raynor]

I am surprised to see that no one mentioned Feanor. I wonder if this is due to the fact that he doesn't come out as a favorite character for everyone, to be polite. However, he is described as the "mightiest of the Noldor", or, more generally, "mightiest in all parts of body and mind, in valour, in endurance, in beauty, in understanding, in skill, in strength and in subtlety alike, of all the Children of Iluvatar". True enough, we ought to take into consideration that he is not the brightest commander ever.

[Hammerhand]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Well, I won't classify Glaurung... you see, the means by which he fights are completely different... not "conventional"... the same as with Treebeard... say, I would limit the choice to just Men, Elves, Dwarves, Dúnedain and Hobbits. Otherwise you could say even Mumak... but the title reads "the greatest WARRIOR" and I won't label Glaurung as "Warrior", nor Treebeard... Warrior is someone who wields a sword or some other weapon, or at least wrestles... Glaurung bites and... Treebeard does something strange with his arms, but he surely does not wrestle...

Are you being treeist or naturist rather lol. I can see your angle, warrior being a title to those who fight conventionally. But Ents and Dragons are mortal too - i think for the purpose of the thread i agree, that "conventional" warriors are probably the limitation to the choice

[Raynor]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Warrior is someone who wields a sword or some other weapon, or at least wrestles... Glaurung bites and

Hm, why would you disregard his fire-throwing abilities? It is a most formidable weapon by itself