Werewolf XLII, Mist in the Barrow Downs

[Gwathagor]

Ok, it sounds like I need to explain a little bit. YesterDay, I had the wolves all figured out. I was pretty certain about a triumvirate involving Aganzir, A Little Green, and Macalaure. I voted for Aganzir at the end of the day, first, because I found her the more suspicious than A Little Green (and I wanted to wait before I accused Macalaure), and, second, because no one else had voted for her and I didn't want to just be a follower. I hope that's fairly clear and doesn't seem like an over-reaction (those are always suspicious).

Obviously, I was wrong about Aganzir, and, consequently, I am rethinking my suspicion of A Little Green as well.

I'm going to reread today's posts again and see if I can find anything that feels phony.

[Macalaure]

While I have to admit that I cannot follow your logic, Gwath, I think your explanation looks innocently genuine enough to make me less suspicious for now.

Originally Posted by Legate

I believe the sentence is clear: I am inclined to think Lommy was killed simply to leave no track, and as side effect, you eliminated a person who suspected you.

Your sentence is clear, but it's completely illogical:
If I was a wolf, then she does leave a highway of a track - towards me!

Originally Posted by Legate

I know, there are these RL things - but come on, defending each other in this way?

No RL whatsoever. By defending her continued suspicion of Nerwen, I also defend my continued suspicion of Nerwen.

[Nerwen]

First off, I should apologize for the no-vote yesterday. I messed up the timing– my computer clock is apparently slow, plus I had an RL emergency to deal with.

The way the votes went was odd. Given that Rikae was, for whatever reason, determined to save Mac– why did they not vote Sally?

Are they all wolves together? If so, why didn't they go for Shasta, Gwath or Menel?

Are Rik and Mac wolves who wanted at all costs to eliminate Aganzir as a threat (maybe the Seer)? Or are they innocents who were, for some reason, absolutely sure she was a wolf?

Reading the lasts posts (didn't have time until after the DL), I noticed that people didn't seem to realize I hadn't voted yet. I need to think about how this might have affected things.

Now, as to what Macalaure says about me: I did not post "vague and fishy" thngs at all. I just asked him to explain his peculiar behaviour. The way he went for me (and everyone else who questioned him) suggests a high degree of paranoia to me. Fact is, he was acting strangely enough to virtually ensure that people would wonder about him.

Funny thing is, in the previous games I've played here, he was much cooler– and he was a wolf in all of them. So what's going on now?

Now I'd like to hear from Gwathagor.

Edit: X'd with everyone since Gwath.

[Nogrod]

Nerwenalysis
+ various thoughts in brackets...

#97
Points on Mac being somewhat confusing while first asking people to concentrate on those flying under radar and avoiding controversiality and then telling he had only wished to trigger “senseless” discussion to reveal the wolves. Says it’s a handy plan but asks how Mac would have proceeded if it had worked.

(I’m still a bit loss with this one. Do you people mean that when Mac says in his first post that: "Strangely, everybody seems reluctant to discuss the useless things and remains quiet because there is yet nothing useful to be said. While it is doubtlessly honorable to focus on what's important, it's not actually helping us today. As contradicting as it may appear, we need to discuss futile topics in order to be productive and make at least an educated guess when twilight comes.” then this is a masterplan after which all the wolves jump in joy and go forwards talking nonsense? I mean c’mon people!)

#101
Answers Gwath’s suspicion on Agan (known innocent) and LG with: "even casually stating your belief in a fellow-wolf's innocence can be rather risky". But then again says LG’s last post was sugary. Gives a tip (to Gwath I suppose?) to look at “staged” suspicions as they may be wolfy.

Points on Menel’s suspicion that “Rikae appears to have taken the bait” that Rikae had started talking about gut feelings already before Mac started his "let's suspect anyone who sounds sensible thing”.

(I’m totally baffled about this. How does this relate to anything that was said?)

Then adds the following:

I'm still not sure what to make of Mac. Was he trying to set a wolf-trap, as he claims? Or is he furry himself, and backed away from his scheme when he saw ii wasn't working? Either way, it was a rather dangerous ploy. If he's a wolf, he risked drawing suspicion on himself– if not, he risked giving the wolves the go-ahead to lynch helpful innocents.

Counters Menel’s suspicions of Shasta for him just being in-character longer than others and his suspicions being pretty jokey.

#107
Clarifies the rules to Gwath’s questions.

Makes a very roundabout notice of Sally’s vote-explanations: not liking it, Sally looking too eager to cover herself – but if sick then possibly not able to think clearly.

#109
Answers Mac:

I mean, if your idea was to encourage the wolves to act silly, and to go after anyone who was being helpful (thus revealing themselves), how did you plan to accuse them– when you'd previously said what they were doing was the hallmark of innocence?

(I admit I have totally lost my track trying to follow this logic... and what’s worse I’m not sure anymore if it is Mac’s logic, Nerwen’s logic or my own that is the weirdest.)

#116
Counters Mac’s conspiracy-theory of herself and Agan trying to help Gwath-wolf by asking why would they need to answer him. But questions Agan’s answer to Gwath as possibly wolf-matish (trying to indicate the other one is overdoing the “not knowing anything” -stuff) – or a wolf trying to lay suspicions on an ordo.

(This indeed looks somewhat suspicious. She ducks the initial question by Mac by kind of “re-asking” why would they need to answer Gwath and then goes on suspecting the other side to the suspicion who is now a known innocent...)

Adds the now famous:

Mac will probably jump on me now, and announce that I'm obviously trying to distance myself from my wolf-colleagues.

(A conscious ordo or a bold wolf pre-empting her stance?)

#142
Late from voting but still posting.

Would vote for Mac or Sally. Feels LG is better now and Gwath is a newbie so she wouldn’t like to vote for him either.

(Quite easy choices at that point of the Day – but admittedly the very same I thought the most suspicious by then.)

Questions why Rikae trusts Mac who acts “in a notably peculiar way”. Says that: “far from "misrepresenting" him, I was simply honestly saying what I thought he meant.”

Says: “Sally's vote for Shasta was perhaps the single most wolfish thing anyone has done today.” The problem was the reasons given but again backs off from it with: “this is Sally we're talking about. She's always weird. Also, it seems she's ill, which may account for some of the extra weirdness.”

DAY2

#169 You can read it just up above so comments only...

There's nothing to apologise for with RL-emergencies but why add the clock thing? Also I tend to disagree with her about Mac acting strangely. Mac has been more active participant than in a long time but not strange - wolvish to be sure but also innocentish. I quess this is again one of those things I don't get in this game: why do you think Mac acts weirdly?

~*~

Summa summarum: I don't know. I can now surely see where Mac and Rikae are coming from when suspecting her. The question to me remains which side of the argument is the true one. I have had my doubts, mostly on Mac, and I do have them still. But this needs to be thought of.


Just ot add a few short ones in the end.

I'm continuing to feel Sally's vote yesterDay a suspicious one. Most strongly the fact that her self-proclaimed "random vote" yesterDay hit Shasta and changed toDay into the "safely-picked one" as no one would vote for Shasta. I'm afraid there might be something fishy in there.

I'm lowering my suspicions on LG a bit as her first post yesterDay was just too aggressive - throwing suspicions all around - to be a wolf-post. And she has made a lot of sense since then.

EDIT: x'd Gwath x 2 + Nerwen