Werewolf LXXII: Now There's the Truth of It! (Game Thread)

[the phantom]

Why tell them to calm down, Nienna? How incredibly boring. The post count isn't that high this game. The last thing you want to encourage is the double-whammy of low posting and boring posting.

And Glirdan, come on. You don't even know how to vote properly? The most basic thing that there is in this little game, and you don't do it? It's like a person who goes to Hollywood to break into showbiz and after years of hard work gets a gig as a background extra- and manages to get fired from that.

And I could paint Gwath with that same brush for his failure to be invisible. Seriously- how does that happen? Did someone shoot you guys with a Noob-ray?

And I still can't believe no one has suggested something interesting, such as- "On Day 2, why don't we all agree to dump three of our four votes immediately on a non-player (e.g. Shasta) and then we'll all have only one single vote with which to save someone from then on. It will make votes more meaningful and make things more tense and encourage bargaining and make lists and such much shorter and easier to keep track of etc etc..."

Come on. Show me something! To this point you lot have been borderline pathetic.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by the phantom

And I still can't believe no one has suggested something interesting, such as- "On Day 2, why don't we all agree to dump three of our four votes immediately on a non-player (e.g. Shasta) and then we'll all have only one single vote with which to save someone from then on. It will make votes more meaningful and make things more tense and encourage bargaining and make lists and such much shorter and easier to keep track of etc etc..."

Erm...

Originally Posted by The Moddess, aka Sally on Admin Thread

Everyone will receive four votes to be used each Day. Not four bonus votes, four votes. You may not use more than one vote on a person and you may not vote for yourself.

Now let me get back to the game without your distractions!

[the phantom]

Extra note: Would you stop with the "here and reading" announcements? I've seen several of those (Wilwa, Nerwen, and Loslote, maybe more), and you don't seem to realize that not everyone is allowed to say that (unless you are within an hour of the deadline).

Why is it necessary to tell everyone you're reading the thread? Isn't everyone? The only way it matters is if it is likely that several other members have been eagerly awaiting your contributions and you wish to inform them that their thirst will soon be quenched. In other words, you have to first prove yourself to be sufficiently noteworthy, awesome, or important in order to post "here and reading".

There are but a few who qualify to use this phrase at any time-
1) revealed gifteds
2) Seer-dreamed proven innocents
3) Mod(s)
4) SPM
5) Phantom

Are you on this list?

Then don't do it.

If at any point during this contest I feel someone has qualified to be added to the list, I will announce it.

[the phantom]

Oh good gravy, Steve- you honestly think that the quote from Sally disqualifies the plan? All it says is that you must spread your votes, hence you do not put all three votes on Shasta (he was just one example), but rather one on Shasta, one on Phantom, etc...

And if you don't want to vote for non-players, just agree on a plan to dump your first three votes on each other and forge a massive tie.

Plus didn't I already tell someone earlier not to be a ruler-kisser? It's really lame.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Oh good gravy, Steve- you honestly think that the quote from Sally disqualifies the plan? All it says is that you must spread your votes, hence you do not put all three votes on Shasta (he was just one example), but rather one on Shasta, one on Phantom, etc...

And if you don't want to vote for non-players, just agree on a plan to dump your first three votes on each other and forge a massive tie.

Plus didn't I already tell someone earlier not to be a ruler-kisser? It's really lame.

Don't give them ideas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

What's the point of first applauding the ingenuity of this game, then suggesting to introduce a classical lynch vote through the back door? Who gets no vote is lynched, period. No need for any extra votes or markings (unless you want to confuse poor alona, who's suffered quite enough recently by having her heart eaten and all that).

Going with the point Eönwë made about modified wolvish behaviour in #48, I must say most of you are acting much too reasonable and eager to help for my peace of mind right now (not that I'm a shiny exception myself, I suppose). Obviously you can't all be wolves, but at the moment I'm tempted to vote for one or two of the quieter and weirder people, just in case.

Nonsense. When you're a wolf, you become Mr. Agreeable. I haven't seen that yet. Unlike Pitchwolf, you seem to be somewhat confrontational...though that may just be this game.

I'm probably going to vote Nog, Nienna, and Zil. They all look pretty innocent to me. Not sure about the fourth yet...probably a quiet person I don't think is a wolf but probably won't get many votes so may get lynched.

EDIT: xed since Zil.

[wilwarin538]

So a very quick scan through and so I'm gonna go with:

++Lottie

Everyone who still hasn't voted I just want to reiterate what I just said. 4 way tie and we don't get a lynch. The votes so far do seem fairly spread out, which is good, but hopefully a vote count shows up soon and people can keep the tie thing in mind. Yes, I'm paranoid about a no lynch, I'm also paranoid that one of those people with 1 or 2 votes are going to get lynched just because they went unnoticed, and that's not really a concrete basis for lynching.

Anyway, I spent all morning with a bunch of hyper 4 year olds so I'm kind of exhausted, gonna go sleep now. Good luck!

x'ed with Lottie and Brinn

[satansaloser2005]

Check the admin thread.

[Loslote]

Okay...

++Nienna

++Zil

May vote Nog. May vote Fea. May vote Pitchie. May vote Izzy. May vote Glirdy. May vote Wilwa.

Will not vote Eonwe. Will not vote Brinn.

Will probably not (but might be persuaded to) vote Formy, Nerwen, Mira, or Gwath.

EDIT: xed with Miss Mod.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

I'm not entirely sure as to why people are thinking this is way different than "normal". Quite often, when people vote - it comes down to a "whomever is left".

People will makes lists of their thoughts on every player, putting into categories of "innocentish, won't lynch, slightly suspicious.." etc. Then voting for a person whom either they find suspicious, or whomever is "left over" and they've "no idea about".

You have a point there– at least if you're talking about Day Ones only. After that we generally have more to go on.

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Here, we are just placing our votes with/on/for people whom we want to keep around. Not entirely different than making lists. By voting for whom you want to keep around, it already shows whom you may think is suspicious indirectly.

But much too indirectly– at least in this stage of the game, when there are so many players. The big problem we have is that the lynch-result may not give us much information– the wolves can help get an ordo lynched simply by doing nothing, and then claim they never suspected the victim at all.

Originally Posted by the phantom

Extra note: Would you stop with the "here and reading" announcements? I've seen several of those (Wilwa, Nerwen, and Loslote, maybe more), and you don't seem to realize that not everyone is allowed to say that (unless you are within an hour of the deadline).

*has sudden urge to spam the thread with 500 "here and reading" posts*

EDIT:X'd with a host.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Plus didn't I already tell someone earlier not to be a ruler-kisser? It's really lame.

Yeah, but here there wasn't any benefit to be had, and if there was then obviously I was being selfish and making sure no-one else could get it.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Yeah, but here there wasn't any benefit to be had, and if there was then obviously I was being selfish and making sure no-one else could get it.

Why do you argue with The Phantom? You must know no one can possibly come off well.

EDIT: xed with Nienna.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Why do you argue with The Phantom? You must know no one can possibly come off well.

That's what you think.

Then again, I'm not the arguing type. I'm the telling type. I think he likes that. And as long as he's submissive, I don't care if he doesn't.

[Loslote]

I am leaning towards Wilwa, Fea, or Nog. I really do think Nog and Wilwa are innocent, and Fea might get my vote purely for her lovely logic here:

I view it as drawing negative space. With voting for who you want to kill, you're drawing the subject of the picture. You're making it obvious.

But when you vote for who you want to keep alive, you're filling in your background. The silhouette you reveal is the identity of the person who is least trusted.

In short, I find this argument silly, since regardless of whether you vote for favorite or least favorite, you're still eventually going to have an Undesirable die at the hands of the village.

It's just more like death by negligence instead of death by pitchfork. Just think of us leaving a poor little villager out in the cold while the rest of us party, and coming out in the morning to find them frozen in the snow.

Thank. You. Personally, I found that whole debate irrevelant and annoying. Of course you're going to mention who you suspect. We always do, we're not going to break the habit now. We've always said who we trust, too, even if we weren't voting for them. We didn't need a special format to say who we trusted then, and we don't need one to say who we suspect now.

[Mirandir]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

That's what you think.

Then again, I'm not the arguing type. I'm the telling type. I think he likes that. And as long as he's submissive, I don't care if he doesn't.

*gag*

So this extra time thing is seriously throwing a monkey wrench in my life. *cue excuses* I have a friend coming in about 20 minutes and love this game though I do, sometimes RL must take precedence. So ima go ahead and do my voting now and might be back around later.

++Glirdan Also don't want him to get lynched Day 1. Poor kid never gets to play this game anymore.

++Fea She's much too amusing to kill off this early.

++Form I really don't think a wolf would slip up and post before they were supposed to. Especially one as experienced as Form.

++Lottie No real reason, just have an okay feeling about her.

[alonariel]

Vote Count:

Brinn - 3
Dun - 7
Fea - 4
Form - 4
Glirdan - 6
Gwath - 4
Izzy - 3
Lottie - 10
Mira - 5
Nerwen - 10
Nienna - 8
Nog - 14
Pitch - 5
Rune - 2
Steve - 14
Wilwa - 3

Edit: Added Lottie and Mira's votes.,